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Out of UE super.fi 5 Pro/Eb which one is the better buy?. Just to let you know I listen to all types of rock. thanks in advance
UE super-fi 5 pro/EB
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according to many reviews, of course if money is no object, go for the pros and not the lower end EBs..
I've got EBs and love them - they are way more comfortable than my etys, no sticking in ears, they are just placed into the ears and you enjoy!!
I've got EBs and love them - they are way more comfortable than my etys, no sticking in ears, they are just placed into the ears and you enjoy!!
rx7_fan
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listened to both, Super.fi 5 Pro is more blanced than the EB with more emphasis on details.
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So the Pro are worth the 50$ more then EB. That good to know but now to get the money.
rx7_fan
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Yes, they are worth the extra $50 because they are versatile. You can match them with more music genre than the EB. I mean if you listen to classical/jazz with the EB, it will seriously mess up the musical instrument. The Pro do a much better job overall.
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Finally got my EBs
Anyways.. they're brilliant for listening to drum n bass, hip hop etc.. the bass is incredible. But yeah, classical music didn't sound as good. With the Jazz EQ on the bass isn't too overpowering though.
Still.. unless you're a major basshead go for the Pros, as stated above.
I don't get the way they stick out of your ears though.. it looks like a 90 degree angle from your head? The EBs look slightly silly.. but at least they don't stick right out.
I ordered the EBs yesterday. it was time to upgrade from my shure e2s and I've heard so many positive things about this new UE line. The decision between the Pros and EBs was tough but in the end I decided that getting the biggest punch was what I wanted. I have a full-sized headphone set-up at home complete with tube amp. I use that when I want great balance and overall performance. When I'm out with my iPod, I just want the most 'fun' sound I can get.
I'll definitely report when I get mine and test them out.
I'll definitely report when I get mine and test them out.
YoungClay
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I just got my UE Super.Fi 5 Pros yesterday and I absolutely love them. My previous headphones were the Sony EX71's. They weren't bad for 50 bucks, but the sfPros are in a whole nother ballpark. The sound that comes from these phones is amazing. If you close your eyes, it sounds like you are actually there. I am hearing details in my music that I have never heard before.
At first, I wasnt a big fan of the "memory wires" that you are supposed to loop behind your ears while wearing these things, but once I realized that this is what holds the headphones in place, I didn't mind so much. You see, the super.fi's dont actually go all the way into your ear canals, rather they just kind of rest at the opening of the canal to get the seal. This is a lot more comfortable than cramming a typical canal bud into your ear, but they can also fall out easier. This is why the memory wire is so important - once the memory wires are looped around you ears, you can pretty much do whatever you want and these things wont fall out.
Yeah, it is kind of strange how they stick out of your ears at a 90 degree angle, but honestly, it doesnt bother me at all. Plus mine are the clear model so they aren't really obvious. I'm planning to post a more detailed review and comparison to the Sony EX71's soon so be on the lookout.
At first, I wasnt a big fan of the "memory wires" that you are supposed to loop behind your ears while wearing these things, but once I realized that this is what holds the headphones in place, I didn't mind so much. You see, the super.fi's dont actually go all the way into your ear canals, rather they just kind of rest at the opening of the canal to get the seal. This is a lot more comfortable than cramming a typical canal bud into your ear, but they can also fall out easier. This is why the memory wire is so important - once the memory wires are looped around you ears, you can pretty much do whatever you want and these things wont fall out.
Yeah, it is kind of strange how they stick out of your ears at a 90 degree angle, but honestly, it doesnt bother me at all. Plus mine are the clear model so they aren't really obvious. I'm planning to post a more detailed review and comparison to the Sony EX71's soon so be on the lookout.
I've had my EBs a few days now. When I first put them in, I was disappointed. I had just been listening to my full size Senns and expecting the same sound from an in-ear was a mistake. I also wasn't prepared for the size of these things, how they stick out of the ear, and how little they go in the ear canal.
As i listened more, I definitely adapted to the sound. Like others here and other places have said, they are not balanced at all and the low-end is pumped up. The bass isn't flabby or anything, just more prominent. I found I didn't care about how they stick out, since I can't see myself, and I still don't like the lesser isolation as compared to me e2s.
But in comparing with the e2s more directly, the e2s certainly lacked the bass. There's also a much larger soundstage on the EBs. Everything sounds bigger and farther from the middle of your head.
I've now come to the conclusion that these were the exact phones I needed, with the exception of the isolation. They are quite fun and will certainly have you at least bobbing your head to the beat.
As i listened more, I definitely adapted to the sound. Like others here and other places have said, they are not balanced at all and the low-end is pumped up. The bass isn't flabby or anything, just more prominent. I found I didn't care about how they stick out, since I can't see myself, and I still don't like the lesser isolation as compared to me e2s.
But in comparing with the e2s more directly, the e2s certainly lacked the bass. There's also a much larger soundstage on the EBs. Everything sounds bigger and farther from the middle of your head.
I've now come to the conclusion that these were the exact phones I needed, with the exception of the isolation. They are quite fun and will certainly have you at least bobbing your head to the beat.
rx7_fan
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You can't expect open headphone sounds from canal, especially not with the EB. Glad you guys like the EB though, they are really fun canalphones that doesn't maticulously pay attention to details. Something to rock out too.
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How can I be a moderator? Any hoops I have to jump?
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How can I be a moderator? Any hoops I have to jump?
rx7_fan
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Ooh okay, make sure you post 'who wants to be a mod?' on this forum because I live exclusively in the headphone forums in here day and night =D
UE Super fi 5 EB Black
I just received my black nano and I was instantly sold on these as soon as I read in the description :
"Best of all, the combined armature and diaphragm driver technology delivers Hip Hop, Rap, Metal, Techno and other bass rich music with the low end output you expect - without distortion."
I listen exclusively to electronic music that is naturally bass heavy, so I hope I will be satisfied with them.
I ordered mine from gateway fro $152 !! Seemed a great deal.
Probably the last place on earth I thought I'd be purchasing something from...and I hope I'm not stuck in backorder limbo, even though I was assured they had plenty in stock.
I didn't know about the vast info on this forum about earphones in general before I placed my order.
My only gripe is that from what I read....I'm not going to be able to use this in my helmet on long motorcycle rides as I had hoped for from a canal phone do to their size. Even while listening to music in bed and wanting to lay sideways... Oh well....I'm sure they will be fine on long flights.
I'll add my impression as soon as I get them.
Nick
I just received my black nano and I was instantly sold on these as soon as I read in the description :
"Best of all, the combined armature and diaphragm driver technology delivers Hip Hop, Rap, Metal, Techno and other bass rich music with the low end output you expect - without distortion."
I listen exclusively to electronic music that is naturally bass heavy, so I hope I will be satisfied with them.
I ordered mine from gateway fro $152 !! Seemed a great deal.
Probably the last place on earth I thought I'd be purchasing something from...and I hope I'm not stuck in backorder limbo, even though I was assured they had plenty in stock.
I didn't know about the vast info on this forum about earphones in general before I placed my order.
My only gripe is that from what I read....I'm not going to be able to use this in my helmet on long motorcycle rides as I had hoped for from a canal phone do to their size. Even while listening to music in bed and wanting to lay sideways... Oh well....I'm sure they will be fine on long flights.
I'll add my impression as soon as I get them.
Nick
Follow up...
I received my Super.fi EB's today(black)... I'm extremely happy with my purchase. I got mine from Gateway and got them 6 days earlier that promised....
I listen to electronic music and nothing will top these, rich bass, super clear mid and highs.
I can't turn the ipod nano past half volume or it gets too loud.
I'm used to loud music from my car stereo yet still these are too loud. I can't imagine why people even talk about adding an amp to these.
For those that listen to electronic music I found the EQ of Dance worked better for Trance and EQ of Electronic worked best for Prog.
rx7_fan what would you estimate the decibel level is at half volume using the nano as a source? I'm trying to establish a "safe" listening volume according to the manual...
I received my Super.fi EB's today(black)... I'm extremely happy with my purchase. I got mine from Gateway and got them 6 days earlier that promised....
I listen to electronic music and nothing will top these, rich bass, super clear mid and highs.
I can't turn the ipod nano past half volume or it gets too loud.
I'm used to loud music from my car stereo yet still these are too loud. I can't imagine why people even talk about adding an amp to these.
For those that listen to electronic music I found the EQ of Dance worked better for Trance and EQ of Electronic worked best for Prog.
rx7_fan what would you estimate the decibel level is at half volume using the nano as a source? I'm trying to establish a "safe" listening volume according to the manual...
rx7_fan
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I have listened to the nano, and it sounds a lot better than the 4th G. Some how it seems like the nano has more bass than the 4th G. Moreover, I think it is also less rolled off.
To answer your safe listening level question, the SPL varies. For example, if you're goign to listen to music for only an hour, it is perfectly okay for you to listen at 100 SPL, which means about 75% of the bar. However, after that hour, you must give your ears a rest. If you plan to listen for a long time, plan on staying around the half way mark of the volume bar on the iPod. 85 SPL is very safe, you can listen for 4+ hours non stop on 85spl and be perfectly fine. So to answer your question, stay around the half way mark, that is very safe for the nano w/ the Super.fi 5 Pro.
However, keep in mind that sound waves have different energy levels. For instance, bass energy is more perceptible, you can actually feel it, while treble energy is not so noticeable. If you change the EQ to have more treble, the spl level will go up. So turn it down a bit. Don't think that if you hang around the half way mark (of the volume bar), you can jack up the treble and still be at 85spl. Basically safe listening for 4+ hours = No EQ in iPod nano @ half way mark. If you EQ, turn it down just a bit. But i'm talking abotu 4 hours here, I don't think anyone listens for 4 hours straight =D
To answer your safe listening level question, the SPL varies. For example, if you're goign to listen to music for only an hour, it is perfectly okay for you to listen at 100 SPL, which means about 75% of the bar. However, after that hour, you must give your ears a rest. If you plan to listen for a long time, plan on staying around the half way mark of the volume bar on the iPod. 85 SPL is very safe, you can listen for 4+ hours non stop on 85spl and be perfectly fine. So to answer your question, stay around the half way mark, that is very safe for the nano w/ the Super.fi 5 Pro.
However, keep in mind that sound waves have different energy levels. For instance, bass energy is more perceptible, you can actually feel it, while treble energy is not so noticeable. If you change the EQ to have more treble, the spl level will go up. So turn it down a bit. Don't think that if you hang around the half way mark (of the volume bar), you can jack up the treble and still be at 85spl. Basically safe listening for 4+ hours = No EQ in iPod nano @ half way mark. If you EQ, turn it down just a bit. But i'm talking abotu 4 hours here, I don't think anyone listens for 4 hours straight =D
On spot.
Actually you're right on spot there.
I did notice just as you described that with more trebble it seems louder in lower volumes. So I'll keep that in mind when adjusting volume.
The second part about lenght of listening was spot on too.
If I could have a chip implanted to constantly play music to my ears...I'd sign up.
I travel quite often overseas and music keeps me sane on the long flights and bus rides. It's not unusual for me to have headphones on for more than 6-8 hours at a time. (give it a ####er break or so) I even sleep with them in. So a safe low volume is important.
I understand the SPL/time ratio... I just never found any good info on what decibel levels are achieved at the different ipod volume level marks and your post has answered those to a certain extent, by setting the halfway mark with no EQ at 85spl or so. Thanks for that
Now to complicate things a little... how much spl would you guess using an EQ of dance (higher treble) add's to the picture? 2-3?
Thanks again for this and your other informative posts throughout the forum.
Nick
Actually you're right on spot there.
I did notice just as you described that with more trebble it seems louder in lower volumes. So I'll keep that in mind when adjusting volume.
The second part about lenght of listening was spot on too.
If I could have a chip implanted to constantly play music to my ears...I'd sign up.
I travel quite often overseas and music keeps me sane on the long flights and bus rides. It's not unusual for me to have headphones on for more than 6-8 hours at a time. (give it a ####er break or so) I even sleep with them in. So a safe low volume is important.
I understand the SPL/time ratio... I just never found any good info on what decibel levels are achieved at the different ipod volume level marks and your post has answered those to a certain extent, by setting the halfway mark with no EQ at 85spl or so. Thanks for that
Now to complicate things a little... how much spl would you guess using an EQ of dance (higher treble) add's to the picture? 2-3?
Thanks again for this and your other informative posts throughout the forum.
Nick
rx7_fan
Acoustics Enthusiast
As you can see on the Dance EQ, midrange bass and midrage (treble) is boosted. If you apply it, it will probably be at 90SPL. Ooh also depends on the song you're listening to, if the song has a lot of treble, and you add on the EQ, it will probably exceed 90SPL. And vi-versa.
rx7_fan
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koo let us know how you like them when you get it.
NBrownie09
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hmmm, are the EB's much bigger/bulkier than the Pro's, and do they hurt at all?
yinyang
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i think the EBs may be a bit bulkier, but have a look here...
http://www.ultimateears.com/superfi/superfi.htm
and do a 360 view on each model.
they don't hurt as long as you use the correct fitting flanges/foamies, which you have to do if you want to get a good seal.
http://www.ultimateears.com/superfi/superfi.htm
and do a 360 view on each model.
they don't hurt as long as you use the correct fitting flanges/foamies, which you have to do if you want to get a good seal.