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I would like to add some cds to my ipod touch. I have an iphone, and an ipad and two macs, but I only want music files on the ipod touch. In the past I was able to turn sync off (in iTunes) and I was able to add music files to just my ipod. Apple music no longer has the "sync off" option. Recently when I used sync to add a cd to my ipod, Apple music deleted everything from the ipod except the latest cd! (Very unpleasant and time consuming experience.) It sycned my ipod to my other devices which have no music cds on them. How can I add a cd to the ipod without losing what I already have on it? I don't want to download files from Apple. I want to use the lossless music files that I download to the Apple app. Any helpful suggestions will be apprecieated. Thanks Bill
 

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There are several inaccuracies here:
  • The Music app that replace iTunes on Mac is called Music, not Apple Music (Apple Music is a service that you pay for to stream audio, ruin your local library and makes iPods worthless as it does not allow syncing them)
  • Music does have the ability to not sync (aka: "sync off")
  • Music cannot sync music from one device to another device. (aka: "synced my ipod to my other devices") what may have happened is a CD was purchased and these devices have their Settings->iTunes & App Store, Automatic Downloads, Music enabled. You can disable this to prevent this in the future.
Music is basically iTunes with a different name. So it generally behaves the same as iTunes. Though the windows may be slightly different.
Enough history and overview, let's get to tips.

1. If you even suspect the iPod might be in automatic sync mode, you need to stop the sync in order to change it to manual mode.
Hold the Option and Command buttons as you connect the iPod to temporarily stop the sync until the next connection.

2. Put the iPod into manually manage mode to prevent any syncing in the future from messing up the songs. This will prevent it syncing from any library until you turn this option off.
Click on the iPod in the left column, then click on the Sync Settings button near the top right.
Put a check mark next to Manually manage music, movies and TV Shows
Click the Apply button

Now you can click on the Songs section of Music in the left column.
Drag a song and drop it onto the iPod in the left hand column to add music.
Click on the iPod, select a track and press the Delete key to remove it from the iPod, answer Delete in the popup window.

You can click a song, scroll down through a list of songs you want, hold the Shift key and click the last song you want to select a bunch of songs at the same time. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

You can also click a song, hold the Option key then skip to another non-contiguous song, click on it to select 2 songs separated by others that you don't want, repeat to get more. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

The multiple song selection works on the iPod as well as the Music Library.
 

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There are several inaccuracies here:
  • The Music app that replace iTunes on Mac is called Music, not Apple Music (Apple Music is a service that you pay for to stream audio, ruin your local library and makes iPods worthless as it does not allow syncing them)
  • Music does have the ability to not sync (aka: "sync off")
  • Music cannot sync music from one device to another device. (aka: "synced my ipod to my other devices") what may have happened is a CD was purchased and these devices have their Settings->iTunes & App Store, Automatic Downloads, Music enabled. You can disable this to prevent this in the future.
Music is basically iTunes with a different name. So it generally behaves the same as iTunes. Though the windows may be slightly different.
Enough history and overview, let's get to tips.

1. If you even suspect the iPod might be in automatic sync mode, you need to stop the sync in order to change it to manual mode.
Hold the Option and Command buttons as you connect the iPod to temporarily stop the sync until the next connection.

2. Put the iPod into manually manage mode to prevent any syncing in the future from messing up the songs. This will prevent it syncing from any library until you turn this option off.
Click on the iPod in the left column, then click on the Sync Settings button near the top right.
Put a check mark next to Manually manage music, movies and TV Shows
Click the Apply button

Now you can click on the Songs section of Music in the left column.
Drag a song and drop it onto the iPod in the left hand column to add music.
Click on the iPod, select a track and press the Delete key to remove it from the iPod, answer Delete in the popup window.

You can click a song, scroll down through a list of songs you want, hold the Shift key and click the last song you want to select a bunch of songs at the same time. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

You can also click a song, hold the Option key then skip to another non-contiguous song, click on it to select 2 songs separated by others that you don't want, repeat to get more. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

The multiple song selection works on the iPod as well as the Music Library.
Sorry, I'm lost. I connect the ipod touch to my mac and hold down the option and command keys and open Music? I did that but there is no ipod in the "left column."
I must be doing something in the wrong order. Should i turn the ipod on when I'm already connected to the mac? When should I open the music app? The user manual mentions the "device summary pane." I don't see that either. Sorry, I can't get Music to see the ipod. I don't know what else to try. Thanks for your time. Bill
 

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In your case, the iPod is already messed up by the Sync, so you don't need to stop the sync. So you can skip the next section unless you want to learn how to do it in the future with a different iPod. Once you do the other step (manual management mode) your iPod Touch will not automatically sync unless you turn it off.

If you want to stop the sync of an iPod or iPhone with a Mac here are the detailed steps.
  • Mac is powered on, logged in and has Music app open.
  • iPod Touch is powered on and unlocked.
  • Hold the Option and Command keys as you connect the iPod to temporarily stop the sync until the next connection.
  • Release the Option and Command keys
  • Wait up to 30 seconds for the iPod to appear in the left column.
In your case Bill
Plug the iPod Touch into the Mac, let it sync, since it is already messed up to begin with.

Put the iPod into manually manage mode to prevent any syncing in the future from messing up the songs. This will prevent it syncing from any library until you turn this option off.
Click on the iPod in the left column, then click on the Sync Settings button near the top right.
Put a check mark next to Manually manage music, movies and TV Shows
Click the Apply button

Selecting many songs that are together:
You can click a song, scroll down through a list of songs you want, hold the Shift key and click the last song you want to select a bunch of songs at the same time. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

Selecting songs that are not together:
You can also click a song, hold the Option key then skip to another non-contiguous song, click on it to select 2 or more songs separated by others that you don't want, repeat to get more. Click and hold any song in the selection, drag all of them and drop them onto the iPod to put whole albums into the iPod.

Adding Music to the iPod in manual management mode:
Now you can click on the Songs section of Music in the left column.
Drag a song and drop it onto the iPod in the left hand column to add music.

Deleting Music from the iPod in manual management mode:
Click on the iPod, select a track and press the Delete key to remove it from the iPod, answer Delete in the popup window.
The multiple song selection works on the iPod as well as the Music Library.
 

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cjmnews: The iPod does not appear in the left column. Should I be on a specific page (view) of the Music interface? I only add music once in awhile and the procedure seems to change everytime I return to Music/iTunes. Thanks Bill
 

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Something is not adding up here. If you synced with this computer to mess up the iPod, it should certainly show up in Music.

Fix the iPod Touch/iPhone not showing up in Music.
Connect the iPod to the Mac
Open Finder
In devices click on the iPod Touch​
Click Trust​
On the iPod Touch/iPhone
Tap Trust​
Enter Passcode​

Now the iPod Touch/iPhone will show up in Music.

Proceed to:
Put the iPod into manually manage mode
Selecting many songs that are together:
Selecting songs that are not together:
Deleting Music from the iPod in manual management mode:
Adding Music to the iPod in manual management mode:
 

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Something is not adding up here. If you synced with this computer to mess up the iPod, it should certainly show up in Music.

Fix the iPod Touch/iPhone not showing up in Music.
Connect the iPod to the Mac
Open Finder
In devices click on the iPod Touch​
Click Trust​
On the iPod Touch/iPhone
Tap Trust​
Enter Passcode​

Now the iPod Touch/iPhone will show up in Music.

Proceed to:
Put the iPod into manually manage mode
Selecting many songs that are together:
Selecting songs that are not together:
Deleting Music from the iPod in manual management mode:
Adding Music to the iPod in manual management mode:
cjmnews: Yes! Finally got it and put it into "manually manage mode." Thank you! You've been both patient and generous with your time. Bill
 

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Not a problem. I needed a post about Mac Music usage that I can use for future questions. Normally everything is all Windows. Nice to switch things up now and then.
 
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