General genre classification question?

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Criminal

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When you break it down to the essentials, you get these main sub-genres of rock.

Alternative Rock - (includes Grunge, Indie, Industrial...) Nirvana, Pixies, Radiohead
Blues Rock - Allman Brothers, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix
Hard Rock - ACDC, Aerosmith, Guns N Roses
Metal - (includes ALL kinds) Black Sabbath, Metallica, Judas Priest
Pop Rock - Beatles, Fleetwood Mac (Rumours), Police
Prog. Rock/Art Rock - Dream Theater, Pink Floyd, Queen
Punk - (again, ALL kinds...Hardcore Punk, Punk-Pop...) Ramones, Green Day, MC5
Rock & Roll - Bob Dylan, The Doors, Rolling Stones

Some genres simply aren't common enough to be categorized by themselves, and this includes Grunge, Southern Rock, and Country Rock. So Nirvana would go under Alternative Rock, Lynyrd Skynyrd under Rock & Roll, and the Eagles under Pop Rock.
 

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Cdammen said:
www.allmusic.com and explore music by genre (in the left menu). Then when you enter an artist mainpage you can see with genre/style/mood he is labeled under, and if you click one you get info about it. Pretty simple, eyh? :)
HOLY COW MAN!!! This website is awesome! The labeling of genres is a HUGE source of frustration for me, especially cause I have some fairly obscure stuff. Thanks a TON for this site.
 

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The general genres I use...

Alternative
Alternative Country
Alternative Metal
Alternative Rock
Ambient Rock
Americana
Bluegrass
Blues
Classic Rock
Classical Vocalist
Country
Dark Classical
Death Metal
Digital Hardcore
Electronic
Electronic Rock
Experimental
Garage Rock
Goth
Goth Rock
Gothic Metal
Grunge
Heavy Metal
Horrorpunk
Industrial
Jazz
Lounge
Metal
Noise
Pop
Post Metal
Progressive Metal
Progressive Rock
Psychobilly
Punk
Rap
Rock
Rock & Roll
Ska
Surf
Trip Hop
 

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What works for me is apostrophe to the subgenre. Then when you do playlists you can be as specific or general as you want.

So you could do something like Rock / Classic or Rock / Alternative

That way it all goes under "Rock" but you could also cull out "Alternative" if you wanted.

A lot of my electronica music is this. They all are "electronica" but then its a slash / and maybe like /house /trance /club /mellow /whatever.

Holiday / Christmas is another example, you can have Holiday / Thanksgiving (adam sandler?)

That way you can exclude Holiday, or add CHristmas.

You need to come up with your own "broad categories". I try to keep it to 5-6 to avoid confusion. They are:

Rap / Hip Hop
Electronic
Spoken
Rock
World
Other
 

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I may do this with my Country genre, since my smart playlists for Country have Tim McGraw and Wilco in the same list. ;)
 

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catpodder said:
I don't portend to be a musicologist or anything...I have the hardest time with rock:
Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry - rock & roll?
Beatles - classic pop?
Journey, Cheap Trick, etc. - ???
Led Zepplin, Jimi Hendrix - Hard rock?

I have Lynyrd Skynyrd as Southern rock.

What about John Hiatt or John Prine?
Elvis Presley I have designated as oldies, along with the Everly Brothers, Righteous Brothers, Four Tops, Sam Cooke, Etc. It includes a lot of genres but it is classified as what gets played on oldies radio.

Beatles I would probably have as Oldies or Psychadelic Rock depending on what era.

Journey, Cheap Trick - Classic Rock

John Hiatt I have as Country Blues alongside Delbert McClinton. John Prine I would classify as Traditional Folk or Progressive Country.

I have a few tricky ones myself, like where to put 'Badly Drawn Boy'
 

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I'm not one for sub-catergorizing things.......have got my 'Rock' broken down into 3 broad categories.....

Modern Rock would denote stuff like Nickelback, Hinder, Hoobastank etc.

Rock is a general category for my old/older stuff like Bon Jovi & Guns N Roses.....also encompasses classics like Led Zeppelin and Kansas

I use Alternative as sort of a general 'All-Other' classification........I prefer it this way because if someone were to go through it......they could splice it up so many different ways, it wouldn't be funny.........(AFI, Coheed & Cambria, Something Corporate, Good Charlotte, Linkin Park, Story of the Year, Change of Pace are just some of what I would call 'Alternative' artists)


My Genres as a whole run like this though
Alternative
Comedy
Country
Disco
Easy Listening
Electronica & Dance
Funk
Latin
Modern Rock
Pop
R&B
Rap & Hip Hop
Reggae
Rock
Soundtrack
80's
 

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Reviving the genre question...

All right, the genre tab in iTunes is a neverending source of befuddlement.

I'm looking at everyone's categories and no matter what you choose, some bands are just not going to fit.

Using Huskerz list, for example, where do you put the Scissor Sisters? They say they're Disco, but most people call them Dance since they're not from the '70s.

Big Audio Dynamite - Reggae or Pop or Rock? (Or The Police for that matter...)

The Aquabats - Punk? Pop? Reggae?

Kyuss? Hayseed Dixie? The new Wynton Marsalis & Willie Nelson CD? Elbow? Calexico? Sigur Ros? Ween?!?

I only mention this because I just noticed that four Belle & Sebastian albums I imported from the CDs all have different genres, and that's from the CD info itself. (Rock, Pop, Alternative, and Other, if you're interested.)

I'm not going to get a definitive answer we could just allow the All Music Guide (AMG calls Lucinda Williams Folk, and Lyle Lovett and The Jayhawks Rock) to tell us, but that has its own problems. (Oh, and every band I mentioned other than Willie & Wynton is "Rock" in the AMG.)

Anyway, I'm just venting after moving all my music to one big hard drive. 350GB is all my CDs -- now it's time to start ripping the vinyl...
 
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I used to have 100s of genres and am now busy paring them down to a couple dozen -- so much easier that way. I can't believe iTunes still does not have at least one 'sub-genre' field yet -- so use the comments field for that.

Pop
Alternative
Punk
Rock
Soft Rock
Classic Rock
Hard Rock
Heavy Metal
Rap
Hip-Hop
Oldies
Easy Listening
Soul
R & B
Reggae
Ska
Ska/Punk
Classical
Blues
Bluegrass
Jazz
Comedy
Books & Spoken Word
Gospel
Country
Electronic
Dance
Folk
New Age
World
Latin

That's what I am trying to get everything down to....
Thoughts?
 

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www.allmusic.com and explore music by genre (in the left menu). Then when you enter an artist mainpage you can see with genre/style/mood he is labeled under, and if you click one you get info about it. Pretty simple, eyh? :)
yes, it's simple, thanks for your info.:)
 

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I know it's an older thread, but i think Rabbins Duck has the right idea about keeping the list of genres down as much as possible. I made the move to mediamonkey and one of the major reasons is that they do have subgenre support. Here's a screenshot of how i sort through my music on Mediamonkey:



As you can see i store the main genre under the 'grouping' field and then all the subgenres under the 'genre' field. I keep my main list of genres to only 15 and even though i have over 25,000 tracks it is easy to navigate through because for each main genres, i'll have 5-10 sub genres.
 

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Lol. Title says GENERAL genre classification. But the topic's about Rock. xD

I don't listen to a lot of rock, so I wouldn't know. I do listen to a CRAP load of EDM (Electronic Dance Music). I could just say Dance, but that's already a genre within the 'Electronic' genre. So... Would be alright if I brought in a topic about the EDM scene?
 

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Genre's suck... can really be a head wrecker.... I mean what exactly do you call Leonard Cohen's music? Tom Waits? part Jazz/Part Weimar Brechtian thingy/Part Beefheart..... I have a lot of world music, but I'm from Ireland and we call Irish music, 'Traditional', but in the context of your music library, Flamenco is traditional as much as Jigs and Reels, so I just call it all 'world', perhaps that is the only genre 'World'.... kind of like Louis Armstrong's "Man, all music is folk music. You ain't never heard no horse sing a song, have you?"
 
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