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Scarpad

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THe latest version of Videora supports 480x480 video in Mpeg4. I converted some 4:3 fullscreen tv shows and the resolution is greatly increased, as is file size but something looks a bit off, is 480x480 a 4:3 resolution? I wonder what it will look like on the pod?
 

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the ipod does not support a resolution that large.

IIRC the max is 320x320

so im guessing it wont play correctly on the ipod

Dinger :)
 

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from the specs it does support 480x480 in mpeg4 format, 320x240 is a h264 limitation.
 

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480x480 is not 4:3, it's 1:1. I don't have an iPod video yet. Are you saying when it plays back on the iPod it doesn't correctly scale it to 4:3?
 

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Mine has'nt arrived yet either so I'm not sure if it will scale it
 

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480x480 MPEG4 plays back perfectly fine on my 30gb. Doesn't look any better than 320x240 on the screen. Haven't been able to play back on a TV since apple said "F you" and doesn't allow you to use a standard 3pin video cable from a video camera.
 

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was the file you encoded in 480x480 4:3 ? if it was, does the aspect ratio look normal on the ipod? Because if you play that on your PC you'll notice the Asepect Ration is slightly off.
 

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You guys are wrong...actually I should say Apple's specs are misleading.

I can play 640 x 360 MPEG4 video on my iPod, which should look great (near DVD quality) on a TV.

Take a look at the sample movie here-
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1840025#post1840025

The standard for high-quality TV output on an iPod will be basically 10 MB per minute. This means 1.2 GB for a 2-hour movie, which is nothing for a 60GB iPod. I mean you could go higher, but given the quality of that sample there's little point. On a PSP or PDA that is too high due to cost of flash memory storage, but on a 60GB iPod it is child's play.

I think when Apple says 480 x 480, they mean total pixels. 640 x 360 (which is a typical aspect ratio for movies) is the same pixels as 480 x 480. As I said, it plays back perfectly on my iPod with no scaling artifacts, and no frame skips or signs of insufficient horsepower...that's great news!!

For newbies who want to create DVD rips like the one this guy did, I would suggest waiting a couple of weeks. It's only a matter of time before freeware/shareware programs for Mac and PC are available that will provide literally 1-click process to rip DVD movies with that level of quality...
 
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640x360 would be fine for Widescreen movies or tv shows, what would you use on 4:3 material?
 

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ultimind said:
480x480 MPEG4 plays back perfectly fine on my 30gb. Doesn't look any better than 320x240 on the screen. Haven't been able to play back on a TV since apple said "F you" and doesn't allow you to use a standard 3pin video cable from a video camera.
I'm using my camera's video cable on my ipod with no problems. Apple just changed the pin-out. Use the RED plug for video, and the other two for audio.
 

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Scarpad said:
640x360 would be fine for Widescreen movies or tv shows, what would you use on 4:3 material?
I don't know the complete details yet about max resolution on iPod, although 640 x 480 apparently doesn't work.

I think 480 x XXX would be convenient to use, or somewhat higher. I don't think 480 x XXX is any standard resolution, so if you can scale video to that then you can try something funky like 540 x 410 (~4:3). That is pretty close the the same # of pixels as 480x480...
 
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