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The review here, about the read speeds, was very disappointing. I'd like personal testimonies to the Shuffle's read speed, and whether or not I should stick with the Cruzer Titanium as a Flash drive.

Additionally, can you have a playlist-based importing method rather than the "auto-fill" method provided as the standard?
 
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i believe the performance may have improved since a firmware update. heres the benchmark i did when i first got the shuffle a year ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/zip22/untitled.jpg

here is a benchmark i did just now
[img=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/zip22/shufflebench.jpg][/img]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Combined Index : 2719 operation(s)/min
Endurance Factor : 35.8
512B Files Test : 4546 operation(s)/min
32kB Files Test : 2018 operation(s)/min
256kB Files Test : 627 operation(s)/min
2MB Files Test : 79 operation(s)/min
64MB Files Test : 3 operation(s)/min
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance Test Status
Run ID : USER-BUJHOIL24E on Sunday, April 02, 2006 at 11:57:50 PM
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 1
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : No

512B Files Test
Read Performance : 28182 operation(s)/min (235 kB/sec, 1x)
Write Performance : 1809 operation(s)/min (15 kB/sec, 0x)
Delete Performance : 3048 operation(s)/min
File Fragments : 1.0
Combined Index : 4546 operation(s)/min

32kB Files Test
Read Performance : 5216 operation(s)/min (2782 kB/sec, 15x)
Write Performance : 866 operation(s)/min (462 kB/sec, 2x)
Delete Performance : 2937 operation(s)/min
File Fragments : 1.0
Combined Index : 2018 operation(s)/min

256kB Files Test
Read Performance : 798 operation(s)/min (3405 kB/sec, 19x)
Write Performance : 384 operation(s)/min (1638 kB/sec, 9x)
Delete Performance : 1576 operation(s)/min
File Fragments : 1.0
Combined Index : 627 operation(s)/min

2MB Files Test
Read Performance : 102 operation(s)/min (3482 kB/sec, 19x)
Write Performance : 45 operation(s)/min (1536 kB/sec, 8x)
Delete Performance : 510 operation(s)/min
File Fragments : 1.0
Combined Index : 79 operation(s)/min

64MB Files Test
Read Performance : 3 operation(s)/min (3277 kB/sec, 18x)
Write Performance : 2 operation(s)/min (2185 kB/sec, 12x)
Delete Performance : 103 operation(s)/min
File Fragments : 1.0
Combined Index : 3 operation(s)/min

Endurance Test Status
Operating System Disk Cache Used : No
Use Overlapped I/O : No
Test File Size : 32MB
Block Size : 512 byte(s)
File Fragments : 1

Endurance Benchmark Breakdown
Repeated Sector ReWrite : 162 kB/s
Sequential Sector Write : 370 kB/s
Random Sector Write : 5 kB/s
as to your other question, i'm not sure what you mean. you can have the shuffle autoload from your library, or from a specific playlist. you can also manage the songs yourself. drag and drop the songs, albums, or artists you want onto it.
 

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Wow, thanks for the benchmark... which of the listed items was the Shuffle?

And what I meant by the question (which you just answered) is if you could use playlists to load stuff. Thanks.
 

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the shuffle is the current drive (in green on the graph, H: at the top). you can see the sandisk cruzer is the red (showing the results that sisoft sandra has on file, not anything i benchmarked). all the results in the text are from the shuffle, just showing the speeds with different files sizes and the results of the other tests.
 

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as you can see, it varys a lot with the file size. i would think if you're comparing to a companies quote, they would use the best number. for the shuffle thats 3.4MB/s read and 2.1MB/s write (which i see is about the same as in the review you posted).

if you checked out anythingusb's review of the cruzer titanium, you can see it will be much quicker than the shuffle (the shuffles fastest are 19x read and 12x write, the cruzers are all 88x read and 55x write)
http://www.everythingusb.com/hardware/index/SanDisk_Cruzer_Titanium.htm
 

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I'm stuck at a dead end, it seems. But as I already have an iPod, and would like speed and durability in my Flash drive, I'll stick with the Titanium. Thanks for your help!

EDIT: Actually, it depends... I'm used to the cruzer mini's speed, and according to a cnet review, it took 6 minutes to get 400MB. This is 1.1 mb/s, correct?
 
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Take a look at this. The mini is faster... wait, does the computer's speed have anything to do with the drive's speed?

And the differences... will they be noticeable?
 
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i dont think the computer should significantly effect the benchmark, but it could. i think the mini will be noticeably faster than the shuffle. what type and size of files do you normally transfer? i can give you an approximate real-world time.
 

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Well, it'll be mostly .docs. But some audio files, as well as web dev files, like .psd's and the such will be coming on as well. But most commonly the .docs.
 

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I don't see why this is a problem. It's more than just normal in my opinion that the Shuffle isn't as fast as other dedicated flashdrives. It wasn't designed to be very fast since it is a player... it's just supposed to be fast enough to play mp3's and load them in a reasonable amount of time. And as everyone is different so our ideal products are different too. And I always say that if "it ain't broke don't fix it". If the cruzer satifsfies you stick with it. That way you won't be dissapointed. :)
 
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