It says on the Apple site that it'll be available early May. However it is already reaching mid May already. Any ideas when it'll be available.

your guess is as good as anybody's. I was expecting it to be out already.

Apple's claim might have some credence if the update is out before the 15th (any later and their promise is just a blatant lie). So, they've got 6 more days.

Besides, what does 1.3 have that makes it such a significant update? Will it have AAC support?

Quote: Originally posted by norque83

Besides, what does 1.3 have that makes it such a significant update? Will it have AAC support?

Rumours are that it will support AAC. Or is that 2.0? I think it is 1.3.

see? questions, questions. It would seem that they would only give windows users AAC only when the iTunes Store is made available for Windows (knowing how Apple works--being proprietory and all). So if AAC is made avalaible in 1.3, it will be a pleasant surprise...but I'm not counting on it. But on the other hand, if AAC is not made available in 1.3, I don't know what else it could include that will make it a worthwhile update for windows users. So, needless to say, I'm confused. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Yeah I think it has AAC support, but im not certain.

However I am refreshing the Apple page everyday

Once they deliver 1.3, they can give us OTG playlists soon afterwards

Quote: Originally posted by norque83
see? questions, questions. It would seem that they would only give windows users AAC only when the iTunes Store is made available for Windows (knowing how Apple works--being proprietory and all). So if AAC is made avalaible in 1.3, it will be a pleasant surprise...but I'm not counting on it. But on the other hand, if AAC is not made available in 1.3, I don't know what else it could include that will make it a worthwhile update for windows users. So, needless to say, I'm confused. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Wait up. What's this about Apple being proprietary? What do you mean exactly? BTW AAC is not proprietary. It's just not owned by MS. Yoy.

Quote: Originally posted by randydecker
Wait up. What's this about Apple being proprietary? What do you mean exactly? BTW AAC is not proprietary. It's just not owned by MS. Yoy.

Yes I know that AAC is not proprietary...I was refering to the iTunes Store.

Quote: Originally posted by norque83
Yes I know that AAC is not proprietary...I was refering to the iTunes Store.

You know, although the music store is for Mac users only, I'm pretty sure the Steve would love to sell music to everyone with a PC. I don't know what deals were made so that Apple could legally sell music but I'll bet that whatever it was had something to do with the fact that the Apple market niche is so small. Oh, and since iTunes 4 allows sharing, I am sure folks in Redmond and elsewhere are watching closely.WMP does not support AAC nor mpeg4. MS has never willingly supported a format that they don't either own outright or control entirely. I don't think they had any choice with mp3 given it immense presence but they would be quite happy if it went away and users had to encode in wma. Tell me I'm wrong.

Apple has said that it will bring the iTunes store to Windows users all along. We just didn't know if it would be done "in house" or given to some other company to develop. BetaNews is reporting that Apple is indeed searching for Windows developers to bring iTunes to the Microsoft masses.

Apple software on a Windows platform hasn't always been the best, but it sure has to be better than the MMJB crap we get with the iPods. Hell, a dead frog is better than MMJB.

Quote: Originally posted by HELLFISH
Apple software on a Windows platform hasn't always been the best, but it sure has to be better than the MMJB crap we get with the iPods. Hell, a dead frog is better than MMJB.

Agreed!

The big thing that 1.3 is "supposed" to have is full Audible support. Otherwise I don't think it is a big deal.

oh, well thats exciting (sarcasm)

Quote: Originally posted by norque83
oh, well thats exciting (sarcasm)

It is to those of us who have been waiting for true, no losing your bookmarks upon sync support.

I NEED SOLITAIRE!!!! :'(

Oh and OTG playlists would be nice too...

All-

I 'came across' the 1.3 Windows firmware update on another iPod site... I have been running this firmware release for just under a week now with no issues at all. All I have noticed thus far is the addition of AAC support, and the Backlight option on the main menu (kind of handy).

I uploaded the zip to my personal site found here:
iPod 1.3 Firmware Updater (Windows)

One note, when running the update it may say it is updating to 1.2.1, don't worry, it does update your iPod to the 1.3 firmware.

If anyone can host this on a better site (with better throughput) let me know!

-tempie