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Topic: I kind of wish the Red color wasn't related to project red.

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Old 02-25-2007, 08:42 PM
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Yeah I figured people would say stuff about the project red thing but notice I just ignored it/found humor from it?

But boy you guys had yourselves a fun lil discussion
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:54 AM
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Here is a good read on the topic.

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A newspaper named him the “Holy Bono”, the Queen knighted him, he made and still makes millions with his band U2, but when it comes to organizing and leading a charity campaign, he may have miscalculated: his charity-label “Red” cost almost 100 million dollars, according to a report - but collected just 18 million for its good purpose.


Sad, really.
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:58 AM
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Why I hate the red Nano

I guess I should start out to say I don't hate the red color. As far as colors go it's a mighty nice color. What I hate about it is Project Red which Bono, Opera and Steve Jobs have people thinking is so cool.

So $18,000,000 was raised so far. That is great but nothing compared to the $3 billion dollars the United States spends every year on AIDS. To me if $3 billion dollars isn't going to convince someone to use a condom another $18,000,000 isn't going to do a lot of good.

What really upsets me about how much we spend on AIDS is how nobody really seems to realize we have a shot for Malaria but yet 1 million people a year die from it. Polio we have had a vaccination for 50 years and still in China and Africa children are still dying of it. Even in America there are parents who can't afford to get their kids childhood vaccinations. For that $10 and the power of a company like Apple you could get a drug company to probably provide five vaccinations since they would want to be tied in with a project like that. Then we are talking about children who will never get Malaria, Polio and a host of childhood diseases.

I personally think people need to stop feeling good about giving money out to help a cause tell they really think about where the money is going and if it is really helping the people most in need. AIDS is a really hot topic in the media so it gets plenty of funding because it is scary and doesn’t have a cure. The sad truth is people are dying of things we can cure but nobody funds.

Who knows maybe someone at Apple will read this and relize how they could really help the world and save some lifes because we all know five years from now people will still be catching AIDS in Africa.

Link to how much the United States spends each year on AIDS:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hivaids/

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The sad truth is people are dying of things we can cure but nobody funds.
U sound knowledgeable and yet... what do u think the Bill Gates (90 Billions) foundation is doing? or Clinton's Global Initiative? U have a choice where ur money goes.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:52 AM
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So are you against it or for it? I'm not getting it too well.

The US government is funding so much money towards ads to use a condom sure. But Opera, Bono, and Steve are all trying to raise money the old fashion way. By a lemonade stand, okay that was just an analogy. But they're making money and donating it towards charity. The US government is just taking our tax dollars and putting it towards these AIDS ads.

not sure if i made any sense or not but i hope i got my point across.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:45 AM
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I would be more for a company to come forward and say "Look we have a problem and we can fix it." instead of just throwing money at a problem. AIDS is a hot topic but really we spend billions a year on it. A cure or prevention isn't going to come any quicker because you bought an iPod. So I am saying the money could be better spent saving the 1 million people who die of malaria since at least we can cure that and the cure isn't expensive.

Personally I am ashamed of the fact that America spends so much on AIDS but yet lets people die of things we in America have a cure for. Makes me wonder if America had a vaccination for AIDS would we release a yellow iPod that gives money to the Livestrong foundation to help find a cure for Cancer and forget about AIDS in Africa because that is what we did with Malaria and Polio.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:56 AM
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Don't hate the player, hate the game...

At least Apple doing or pretending to do something for a good cause ...
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:29 AM
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What's with the whole uprisal about people hating the red nano because it's associated to Bono's charity?

I'd hate to burst your bubble, but this topic is already being discussed over hurr. I hope you find that thread informative and helpful for your needs.
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As long as u don't think nobody is doing anything about the curables deceases, I agree, AIDS is kinda the cause-de-Vogue.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:44 PM
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so basically we should stop donating money to aids, make a non-charitable red ipod nano and start donating to random OTHER charities
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so basically we should stop donating money to aids, make a non-charitable red ipod nano and start donating to random OTHER charities
Did you read the post at all? Apparently not. : shake::s hake:

I agree - AIDS is overused in the media as a feel-good marketing scheme, but it is still a pretty big disease that's overshadowing others that are easily curable. I don't think it's safe to say whether one disease has more importance over another.
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Old 03-09-2007, 10:28 AM
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If we don't have enough resources to solve all of the problems, doesn't it make sense to first remove the easier problems (the diseases we can cure) while preventing the spread of AIDS, and then refocus on AIDS once the other diseases are eradicated? AIDS can't be cured right now, but preventing its spread just requires education and some basic precautions. Why it is still a growing problem is beyond me.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:54 AM
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Did you read the post at all? Apparently not. : shake::s hake:

I agree - AIDS is overused in the media as a feel-good marketing scheme, but it is still a pretty big disease that's overshadowing others that are easily curable. I don't think it's safe to say whether one disease has more importance over another.
You are right in some regards and wrong in others. You are right to say that they shouldn't be more important than one another other than when it comes to money. Basicly we can only offer information and look for a cure for AIDS. That shouldn't take over a billion dollars a year really and I personally think we are kind of throwing more money at a hot media topic because the people in the goverment want to look good than what is really needed.

If we spent the money though on something we can cure while preventing the spread of AIDS as much as possible then I feel the money would be better spent since solid gold test tubs will not cure AIDS any quicker than glass ones (I know they don't use those but it's an example that a millions can have the same effect at the end of a year that billions can have).
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yeah i agree with mjmoonwalker
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You are right in some regards and wrong in others. You are right to say that they shouldn't be more important than one another other than when it comes to money. Basicly we can only offer information and look for a cure for AIDS. That shouldn't take over a billion dollars a year really and I personally think we are kind of throwing more money at a hot media topic because the people in the goverment want to look good than what is really needed.

If we spent the money though on something we can cure while preventing the spread of AIDS as much as possible then I feel the money would be better spent since solid gold test tubs will not cure AIDS any quicker than glass ones (I know they don't use those but it's an example that a millions can have the same effect at the end of a year that billions can have).
You can't say definitively whether or not he's right or not. In the future, don't confuse your opinion with fact.
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