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Old 01-25-2005, 10:08 PM
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UPDATED: Simple Guide for iTunes

UPDATE: Since Apple has updated iTunes to version 8 a lot of things have changed in how we manage our iPod's in iTunes. I have posted some updated material and will continue to update this post as new things are discovered and Apple updates their support site.

NOTE: See the iTunes 8 article for iTunes information: Instant Expert: Secrets & Features of iTunes 8 (Updated)


Something new added to the support site is this link containing what Apple calls "iPod Higher Learning: The Next Steps". The Apple document states "Now that you've got the basics, here are some nifty things you can do with your iPod that'll have you using your player like a pro!". See this link for a list of their "Get the Most Out of Your iPod" information. NOTE: I wouldn't advise anyone to use the "Convert your own videos for iPod" tutorial liks unless you already know what your doing since this will end up giving you either a video with no audio or audio and no video. Use the iLounge iPod 101/201 Tutorial section (links listed below) for step-by-step guides to convert DVD/videos for Mac and Windows.

For those of you who are constantly asking how to transfer music from the iPod because you have lost your music library for various reasons, here are some tips and advice for you to try and preserve your library and iTMS downloads.

When using the iPod and iTunes you can avoid having iTunes erase your iPod contents by doing some very simple things until Apple makes some change to the iPod/iTunes synchronization process by turning off the automatic synchronization completely.

If your computer hard drive and/or your iPod hard drive crashes you need to first and foremost make sure that your music library is backed up to:
A) An external hard drive or
B) Blank CD's - data CD's - best for preserving tag info & audio quality if you need to import the songs back to computer
C) Blank DVD's - which hold 4.7 GB of data

At minimum you need to at least make sure the songs you have downloaded are immediately burned to a blank disk to preserve the songs in case of a computer hard drive crash or virus infection -hey, it happens.

Some simple instructions for iPod owners as to avoid the catastrophy of losing your iPod library is to:

1- Burn All Songs To A CD After You Have Finished Downloading

UPDATED INFORMATION:
How to back up your media in iTunes

Always remember to back up your iTMS songs to a disk after you have downloaded them onto your computer. This way if anything happens you will always be able to transfer the songs back onto the computer. I think it's a good idea to make Audio CD's as your main copy. Apple does not allow you to redownload your iTMS songs if you lose, destroy, or damage the Product, and Apple will be without liability to you in the event of any loss, destruction, or damage. You can read more about the Usage Rules here.


2- When Using iPod on Two or More Computers

UPDATED for iTunes 7

Using iPod with multiple computers

If you are using the iPod on more than one computer or using more than one iPod on a computer, then set the iPod to "manually manage songs and playlists" (Edit>Preferences>iPod - while you have it connected to the computer) and this will keep it from automatically synchronizing with iTunes and erasing all of the songs on the iPod.

If you can't use iTunes on your work/second computer then use an app that goes onto the iPod hard drive like:

1- YamiPod (PC & Mac compatible) - http://www.snapfiles.com/get/yamipod.html
2-SharePod (windows only) - http://www.softpedia.com/get/IPOD-TO...SharePod.shtml

When you connect it to the computer just open the iPod to execute the program and make sure that iTunes is closed since some programs will not run while iTunes is accessing the iPod.

3- Do Manually Manage Songs and Playlists

For iTunes 7 just highlight the iPod in the source list column and click on the summary tab to view the manual option.

Applicable to the previous versions of iTunes

I would also highly suggest that you turn off automatic synchronizing the iPod with iTunes. Even if you autotomatically sync the iPod and when finished before you eject the iPod go to Edit>Preferences>iPod>General tab, select the manual setting in Windows (Mac's just go to Preferences). This way if the only place you still have songs are on your iPod you will not have to worry about it auto syncing with iTunes and deleting your iPod contents. It's a safe setting.

UPDATED for iTunes 7

Managing content manually on iPod

If you have iTunes 7 or later follow these instructions:

1-Connect iPod to your computer.
2-Open iTunes.
3-Select iPod in the source pane.
4-On the Summary tab select “Manually manage music and videos” and click Apply.
Tip: Even though your Music, Movies, and TV Shows tabs show no checkmarks when you are in Manual mode, you can still sync content. Checking these boxes will place the iPod back into Automatic mode.

4-Stopping the Automatic Synchronization

UPDATE For iTunes 7

How to keep iTunes from automatically updating your iPod

If you have no songs in iTunes and the only place you have a copy of your songs is on your iPod then:
a)connect the iPod to the computer
b) immediately press and hold the Shift + Alt + Ctrl keys (if on a Mac it's Command + Option)
c)hold these keys for about 3 seconds after the iPod appears in the source list pane before releasing.


5- Avoid Having iTunes Erase Your iPod

UPdate for iTunes 7 - iTunes will now dispaly a window giving you the option not to sync your iPod with a new library or to sync with the library. So if it is empty then make sure you read all pop up windows in iTunes before clicking 'ok'.

Do not ever connect the iPod to iTunes if it is set to auto sync and your iTunes library is empty or some of the songs are not in your iTunes library but are only stored on the iPod because it will erase the iPod's contents. Use the above instructions listed in #4 and then #8 to copy music back to the computer.

6-Software to Use on the iPod Hard Drive

Here are some softwares that can be stored and used on the iPod hard drive so you can play music, transfer songs from the iPod to the computer as well as other things depending on the software.

One is SharePod for windows only and there is also one called PodPlayer
and this is for windows only and there is also
YamiPod - this software can transfer music from and to the iPod (there are others but this is the only one that will transfer music onto the iPod). It has two restore features, two search features and will find lost music files. This is for both Mac's (OS 10.2 & 3) and Windows (98SE and later).

7-Recovering Songs Deleted From iPod

You can see this thread here: Data Recovery a How To

Also YamiPod does song recovery.

8- How to copy songs from iPod to Computer

UPDATED for iTunes 7

Here is the update for iTunes on how to transfer songs from the iPod back to your computer. Please note that this only applies to purchased songs from the iTunes store and not your own files. To remove your own files from the iPod you will have to continue using the same methods as before - 3rd party software.

Copying music between authorized computers with iTunes for Windows

With iTunes 7 you can transfer iTunes Store purchases that are synced with your iPod to any authorized computer. Let's say from your home to your work computer. Here are the steps to reverse sync purchases from your iPod.

1-Make sure that you are using the latest version of iTunes 7 and your iPod's software.
2-Authorize your computer by choosing "Authorize Computer" from the Store menu in iTunes.
3-Attach your iPod to the computer that contains purchases.
4-From the file menu, choose "Transfer Purchases from iPod".


This guide has now been updated:
Copying Content from your iPod to your Computer - The Definitive Guide


How to copy songs from iPod to computer w/o the need of software
See this thread for the step-by-step instructions.

Windows version:

-Go to my computer> Tools>
-Folder option> view>
-Check the box next to 'show hidden files & folders'.
-Then connect the iPod
-When the iPod shows up in 'My Computer'
-Click open the hard drive then
-Remove the music folder to your desktop or a music folder.
-Then open the music folders and you will see folders titled 'F00', F01, et cetera. The music files are inside.
-Remove the files by opening the folder, highlight all songs (edit>select all) and drag-n-drop the files into the iTunes library. The files are coded and will look like (QTRX, TRVB - they will have a 4 letter code) but the actual titles will appear correctly when the files are added to the iTunes library.

Mac version:

File Buddy will allow Mac users access to the iPod HD hidden folders if need be:
http://www.skytag.com/filebuddy/en/index.html

What is File Buddy?
File Buddy is quite simply the most powerful and popular high-level file utility available for use with Mac OS X 10.3 or 10.4 Tiger. The current retail version of File Buddy is File Buddy 8.1, but a new public beta of File Buddy 9 is also available for those who want access to the latest File Buddy features.
-Search for files and folders using a wide variety of criteria without the use of indexing files.
-Use Viewers™ to view the content of graphic and movie files in lists.
-Use the Info window to examine and modify file attributes not available in the Mac OS X Finder.
-Use one of the many options for renaming groups of files or folders.
-Find and repair broken aliases.
-Use the QuickView™ menu to easily view the contents of standard folders.
-File Buddy’s contextual menu plug-in adds commands to Finder contextual menus
-File Buddy helps you clean your file system of files you no longer need.
-Use Droplets to automate tasks you do frequently such as setting file attributes or finding duplicate files
-Panther and Tiger compatible (requires Mac OS X 10.3 or later)


iPod2Mac will allow you to copy the hidden folder music files for free:
http://www.daniele.ch/downloads.html
iPod2Mac 1.2 - Mac OS X
-Copy music files from the invisible folders of the iPod and manage the Note files
-Requires the new iPod (2003)
-Mac OS 10.3 compatible
-New in version 1.2

With the use of software for both Windows & Mac:

This application goes onto the iPod hard drive and the iPod can be managed from it and it's for Windows & Mac users:

YamiPod - Free
(http://www.yamipod.com) it supports:

Windows XP, 2000, 2003, ME, 98SE
Mac OS 10.2 & 10.3

Features
-stand alone program, no installation required
-iPod is auto recognized
-mp3 & AAC files can be copied to and from iPod
-read/write access to mp3 id3 and AAC infos
-lyrics support (with internet auto search)
-playlist support (On-the-go included)
-playlists import (PLS, M3U)
-full unicode support
-auto-download new ersions
-advanced song import/export settings
-2 restore features
-built in music player
-iPod informations
-remove duplicated tracks
-find lost music files
-easy ratings edit
-PC to iPod synchronization
-create and edit notes
-automatically update song playcounts
-news RSS and podcasts to iPod
-Now supports trasnferring videos and podcasts back to your computer.
You will need to check the box for videos and podcasts under preferences>other tab.


iGadget formally iPod Agent $15USD - Windows & Mac
http://www.ipodsoft.com/site/pmwiki....adget.Homepage

Here are the features you’ll get with the purchase of iGadget:

-Transfer songs from your iPod to your PC and/or into iTunes while preserving play counts, user ratings and last played dates
-Transfer playlists from your iPod to iTunes
-Put driving directions between any two locations in the United States and Canada onto your iPod
-Transfer all you Outlook* data to your iPod (email, appointments, contacts, tasks and notes)
-Store weather forecasts on your iPod
-Download Podcasts from the internet to your iPod
-Pull RSS news feeds from the internet and store them on your iPod for reading at your lesiure
-Get your movie showtimes for your local theaters stored onto your iPod
-Put your daily horoscope readings on your iPod
-Backup any set of files and/or folders from your PC onto your iPod for safe keeping
-Create a library of text files on your iPod for reading on-the-go - these could be e-books, recipes, bible verses, anything
-Create listings in various formats (HTML, CSV, plain text) of the songs on your iPod - this could then be used to post on a website or to print out a listing of all your so


SharePod -Free - For Windows Only (http://www.sturm.net.nz/website.php?...&Page=SharePod)

This application is stored and run from the iPod hard drive. No installation needed. It will allow you to play your iPod from any computer and transfer music from the iPod to any computer.

Features

-Copy songs and playlists from your iPod to your PC
-Copy songs from a PC to your iPod - you don't need iTunes to add music to your iPod anymore!
-Completely customizable organization of copied files - choose your own folder and filename structure
-Integration with iTunes - once you have copied music to your PC, easily add it to your iTunes library
-Built-in Media Player
-Search by Title, Artist, Album, Genre (or any combination)
-Create Winamp-style playlists from the music on your iPod so you can listen to it without needing to copy the mp3 files to your computer.
-iPod Network File Sharing - If you are on a network, (e.g. at work/university) and you enable the feature, other users can run your copy of SharePod from their own computers, and download music directly from your iPod!
-No messy install/uninstall process - SharePod is just a couple of files

PodPlayer - Free - For Windows Only
(http://www.ipodsoft.com/site/pmwiki....layer.Homepage)

Pod Player is a freeware application to be used with your iPod. It allows you to play music from your iPod while it is connected to your PC. When launched, it will look for an attached iPod and when it finds one it will read the music database on the iPod. You will then be able to views your songs in a similar way as in iTunes (by artist, genre, album, playlist, etc). You can now also extract songs from it. There are a few little extra features such as iPod Hacks, checking for duplicates etc. You can play your music on any computer when you iPod is connected without the need to install any programs such as iTunes. Get it now!

Senuti - Free - Mac Only
http://www.fadingred.org/ or http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/23390

Lightning fast There's a little file on your iPod called the iTunesDB file. What does that mean to you? Nothing. What does that mean to me? Everything. Every bit of information on every song on your iPod is stored in this little file. Every bit of information on your playlists is stored in this file, too. It's how iTunes knows what's on your iPod. It's how your iPod knows what's there, too. There isn't a much faster way to figure out what's on your iPod.
Finding Songs Senuti includes all of the built in options that one would expect to find songs. You can search and sort in any combination of ways that you want. That's not quite enough sometimes, though. Sometimes you might want to know if you're copying the right song. Know how it goes, but don't know if that title is quite right? Play it! That's right, Senuti will play songs directly off of your iPod. It can even double as a jukebox player for your Shuffle or any other iPod.
Playlists Senuti not only reads the playlists that you made on your iPod, but it allows you to transfer them back to your computer as well. A simple drag and drop action within the application will not only copy songs to your computer and and add them to iTunes, but it will make a new playlist with the same name and add all of the songs to that list.
Seamless Integration Adding songs to your computer, you're probably going to add them to iTunes right after that, right? What if you didn't have to, wouldn't that be great? Well you don't have to. Senuti will do all of the work for you. What work you want it to do is up to you. You can have songs added to iTunes if you want. You can have all of your music organized into folders by artist and album, too. The option's yours.


Music Rescue formally called PodUtil - $20USD (Check website store for price conversion for your country) - Mac & Windows
http://www.kennettnet.co.uk/software/podutil.php

**Registration Note:**
You're free to download and try Music Rescue for free, but if you find it useful you should buy the full version. No features are missing before you pay, but you'll be politely reminded that you should do so while you're copying music. Music Rescue costs £10, and has two different licenses:
Computer License (Music Rescue)
-Registers Music Rescue to a computer
-You can use as many iPods as you like with the one computer

iPod License (Music Rescue Anywhere)
-Registers Music Rescue to an iPod
-You can use this iPod with as many computers as you like

Introduction - PodUtil is an easy-to-use utility for viewing the songs on your iPod and copying them in a customisable organised manner to your computer. Once copied, PodUtil can add your songs back to iTunes and rebuild your playlists. PodUtil 3.0.2 is compatible with Mac OS X, Windows 2000 and Windows XP.
Powerful Track Selection - With PodUtil, you can choose what music you'd like to copy quickly and easily. The "Quick Ruleset..." feature lets you quickly queue a batch of songs based on a single piece of information. If you'd like a little more control, the Ruleset Builder gives you just that:
iTunes Integration - PodUtil can scan your iTunes Library on startup. This lets you compare your iPod's music library to your iTunes library - PodUtil will tell you if a song is in your iTunes library or not, and will even show tracks that are similar.
Copying - PodUtil has a powerful but easy to use editor that lets you specify exactly how you'd like your songs to be copied to your computer - simply drag and drop tags to set up how your songs organised and named. For more information on Copy Settings Tags, see the Copy Settings Tag Reference.
Portability - When you're on the move, it can be a pain to keep your settings and registration details current on each computer you use. As of version 3.0, PodUtil solves this problem by introducing iPod Profiles. Each iPod you use with PodUtil gets it's own profile, which stores settings on a per-iPod basis. If "Allow Roaming Profile" is enabled, these settings will be stored on the iPod and picked up by any copy of PodUtil 3.0 or higher you connect your iPod to. You can take this a step further by purchasing a PodUtil Anywhere license - your registration will then be stored in your iPod's Roaming profile and used by any compuer you connect it to. You can even install PodUtil onto your iPod so you don't have to install it on every computer you use.



iPod Access - for Windows & Mac - $19.99USSD
http://www.findleydesigns.com/

MAC
* Universal Application (Support for Intel and PPC Macs)
* Tiger (OS X 10.4) Support
* Force iPod Manual Update Mode
* Add songs, videos and podcasts directly to the iTunes Library
* Export song listing
* Automatic file renaming
* Support for non-Roman characters (including Japanese)
* Easy to use interface
* Instant listing of all iPod songs
* Playlist Cloning into iTunes
* Support for iTunes Ratings, Play Count, Last Played date
* Play music and video files directly from the iPod
* Transfer ID3 tags for WAV, Video and iFM files.
* AAC file support (including iTunes Music store songs)
* Audible.com support
* Song Navigation by Artist/Album or Composer/Album
* Copy songs organized by Artist/Album or Composer/Album
* Single button sequential backups
* Attempts to recover songs from iPods with a damaged database.
* Support for PC formatted Hard drives
* Support for Multiple iPods
WINDOWS
* Support for Windows Vista, Windows 2000 and Win XP
* Works with all PC formatted iPod, Nano, Shuffle and Mini models
* Force iPod Manual Update Mode
* Block iTunes/iPod update
* Add songs, videos and podcasts directly to the iTunes Library
* Export song listing
* Automatic file renaming
* Support for non-Roman characters (including Japanese)
* Easy to use interface
* Instant listing of all iPod songs
* Playlist Cloning into iTunes
* On-The-Go Playlist Support
* Support for iTunes Ratings, Play Count, Last Played date
* Play music and video files directly from the iPod
* Transfer ID3 tags for WAV, Video and iFM files.
* AAC file support (including iTunes Music store songs)
* Audible.com support
* Song Navigation by Artist/Album or Composer/Album
* Copy songs organized by Artist/Album or Composer/Album
* Single button sequential backups
* Attempts to recover songs from iPods with a damaged database.
* Support for Multiple iPods
* Fast and secure payment processing


Sveta Portable Audio - Windows Shareware w/30 day free full use trial offer.
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/sveta-portable-audio.htm

-Rip Audio CDs straight to your player no need to store them on your PC,
-On the Fly conversions have WMA files but your player only plays mp3? Sveta can convert whilst sending,
-Smart Conversions, tell Sveta which audio types should be recompressed or sent 'as is' (files below a certain bitrate),
-Simplicity sending Audio files, from within Windows Explorer right click on an Audio File >> Convert To >> [your portable]
-Sveta Explorer simple to use full screen device explorer, sort tracks by Artist, Album or Year
-Edit ID Tags, Star rate tracks & Playlist Support **
-Copy Audio back to PC and arrange (order into folders) as required **
-Two way Audio Synchronize, with dBpowerAMP Audio Player synchronize newly ripped audio files,
-Integration with dBpowerAMP family, dBpowerAMP the must have audio program - Sveta integrates seamlessly.

iDump - Freeware -Windows 2k, XP & ME
http://www.softpedia.com/get/IPOD-TO...ls/iDump.shtml

iDump will allow you transfer your songs off your iPod to a PC, iDump does come wrapped in installer but you can simply drop the .exe in the root directory on your iPod and run it from there.

-Output formatting
This gives you the option to select an output directory and the way the songs will be transferred.
-Unattended Transfer
If you have the pleasure of owning one of the larger iPod's then this option is for you, Simply set the options for this feature and it will deal with common errors like what to do if a song already exist on the destination drive etc.
-Search
This does what most searches do, it searches!
-Playlists
If you use playlists on your iPod then this give you the option to select any of the playlists and display the song within the selected list only.
-Export Playlists
This option will export all of your playlists in to the standard .m3u format.


CopyTrans formally CopyPod - $19.90
http://www.copytrans.net/download.php

Transfer iPod playlists, ratings and more to iTunes

* Rebuild iTunes library from iPod
* Download playlists, ratings, play count, last played, from iPod to iTunes
* Preserve song order in playlists
* Recover album artworks
* Import videos, movies & TV shows to their iTunes category
* Restore audiobooks
* Retrieve podcasts with subscriptions
* Select the metadata you want to move to iTunes

Copy songs and videos from iPod, iPod Touch & iPhone to computer

* Transfer iPod songs to any computer location (folder)
* Place all music files in the same folder
* Organize songs into folders and sub-folders based on any data such as Artist, Album, etc
* Build song names with extensive renaming options

Backup iPod, iPod Touch & iPhone to removable storage devices

* Save all iPod music data and videos to an external hard drive
* Store iPod backups on safe separated removable storage devices
* Create iPod backups that you can burn to CD and DVD
* Import iPod backups to iTunes whenever desired with playlists and other personal preferences

Compatible with all iPod models:
iPhone (3G) & iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano, iPod Video, iPod Photo, iPod Mini, iPod Shuffle
Other languages supported
PortuguÍs, Italiano, Russian, Chinese Simplified, Chinese Traditional, Korean, Nederlands
System requirements
512 Mb of RAM - Designed for Windows XP & Vista


For Mac Users
iPod.iTunes - 29.90 EURO ($39USD)

Pod.iTunes evaluates the source for songs, videos, podcasts and/or playlists that are not in the target and only adds these seamlessly, avoiding duplicates, saving your time. Unlike iTunes' own synchronization iPod.iTunes generally does not delete content in the target. iPod.iTunes can also transfer song dependend data like "My Rating", "Last Played", "Play Count", album artwork, etc... See website for more information on this shareware.


9-Using Windows 98, 98SE & Windows ME w/an iPod

Windows 98 & 98SE:
http://win98.drivers.w.interia.pl/ipod.html

Window ME
http://www.geocities.com/mmcfly8888/

10-Understanding symbols next to songs or playlists in iTunes
What is this new icon and how do I vanquish it?

Apple document: Understanding the Symbols Next to Songs
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93078


iPod 101/201 Tutorials

The full listing of guides can be accessed by scrolling down here.

GAMES FAQ's

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for iPod Games

Troubleshooting iPod Games


11-Adding & Deleting Songs From Existing Playlists On The iPod On-The-Go

If you want to add songs to a playlist or even delete songs from existing playlist what you have to do to achieve this is:

1-In the playlist section of the iPod highlight the playlist title.
2-Press & hold the center button until it flashes rapidly to create an On-The-Go playlist with the existing playlist.
3-Once that's done just go through the list:
__(A)To delete a song press & hold the center button until it flashes rapidly.
__(B)To add a song to the list just find the song and press & hold the center button until it flashes rapidly.

NOTE:When done you will be taken back to the top of the OTG playlists.

When your finished all you need to do is save the playlist. If you want a song at the top of the playlist you will have to wait until you connect it to the computer to rearrange the list or create it in the order that you want manually (meaning song-by-song).


12-Backing Up Your Library

It is important to back up your library and not use the iPod as your only source to store your entire library. The iPod has a hard drive and hard drives can fail. It is very important to have your music stored in an additional way.

A- Make sure all of your iTMS (iTunes Music Store) purchases are burned onto a blank disk after downloading. Use blank CD's and/or DVD's. You can find them at a discount price at various stores. This is the most inexpensive way to back up your library and DVD's hold much more data than CD's. When burning music files to a disk make sure you burn them as data disks to preserve the tags and artwork associated with the files. This option is also good for backing up the playlists you want to keep.

B- Purchase an external hard drive to store your files. You can always find them on sale. Purchase one that is larger then your library so that you will have room for growth. As your library grows you won't have to purchase them so often.
Remember that even external hard drives can crash so make sure you have more than one option for backing up files you want to keep.

External Hard Drives
See this thread for suggestions.

C- Read this article from the iPod 101/201 tutorials exposing some good advice as how to back up your music library:
The Complete Guide to Backing Up iPod & iTunes Music

Other articles and threads you should read are listed below:

iTunes: How to backup and restore playlists
How to get playlists back
How to recreate your iTunes Library
"CutePDF Printer" - Freeware that will produce PDF files of your library for Windows.
PDF Adder - Applescript to create PDF files for Mac users.
Use Disk Mode to copy photos from iPod
How to rename your iPod
Apple's iPod Tutorial

For previous versions of iTunes see this thread here.

Chipmunk: Klantenservice

If you would like to have more information on your Macintosh (model, date of production, etc) then enter your serial number here. All the information that we can bring from the serial number will be shown to you. We support all Apple products including computers, laptops, monitors, printers and batteries.

**The iPod is supported as well. Just put the iPod serial number in the space and click on the button below it. It will return you iPod information.


13-Extracting Audio from DVD's

Software listed for both Mac and Windows here:
Extracting Audio from DVDs & Videos

To Give Feedback about iPod and iTunes or to request new music use the links below:

iPod feedback link.

iPod touch feedback link.

iPhone feedback link.

iTunes feedback link.

iTunes Music feedback link.

Product & software feedback link.

Contacting Apple by phone

Additional service information is located here.

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When i hold shift+alt+ctrl after plugging in my ipod, the ipod icon doesnt show up
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You need to explain what your trying to do and why. What OS are your using? You may need to use Shift + Ctrl on your PC.
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I'm running Windows XP. I deleted a purchased song from my library and so it was deleted from my Purchased Music.. didn't know it was going to do that. So now I only have it on my iPod and I wish to get the song back.
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Then what you need to do is use either;
YamiPod (http://www.yamipod.com) - this app goes onto the iPod hard drive and will transfer songs to and from the iPod.

SharePod (http://www25.brinkster.com/carmagt/sharepod) - this goes onto the iPod hard drive and will transfer music from the iPod only.

iPod Agent now iGadget (http://www.ipodsoft.com/software.aspx) - this goes onto the computer hard drive and will transfer songs off of the iPod back to the PC.

I have used all of them and they do work. I keep SharePod on my 3G HD and YamiPod on my 4G HD. You can also play music from the iPod when connected to the PC with each. The first two you have with you and can use if connected to another PC.

1-Never delete music from the PC that is not burned to a disk unless you keep your iPod on manually manage songs and playlists. When you download iTMS songs burn them to a disk the same day.
2-You can turn off iTunes from opening up when iPod is connected.

You can also click on the "X" in the upper right corner of the iTunes window to stop the auto sync process. When you connect the iPod have the software open and it will access the iPod instead of iTunes. If the ipod is not showing up in the source list when you press and hold shift-ctrl-alt keys, this is good. You don't want iTunes to delete the iPod if it's set to auto sync.

If you need more help with anything post back.

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You say that YamiPod and SharePod actually go onto the iPod, are there downsides to this and can you remove it?
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:28 AM
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You might also suggest that people get comfortable with that key combo to de-activate automatic sync. After all, do they really want to try this the first time when they risk paid-for music permanently?

I had a friend who sync'ed a bunch of music with his new iPod, then deleted it off the computer. Fortunately, somehow he realized he would lose all of this off his iPod when he plugged it back in, so he called me (thinking me the grizzled old iPod pro). Well he was wrong - I knew nothing about that key combo! I advised him to just rename the iTunes.exe executable so it couldn't run...no way it was going to auto-sync then!

The other thing - you say to burn music to an audio or mp3 CD. I'm pretty sure the paid-for music won't just convert to mp3 - does iTunes just give up on the mp3 idea and burn them as m4p files? The m4p files are what they need to back up...unfortunately a lot of people probably have no idea how to do this (even though XP has the capability built-in).

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I never said convert the music to mp3 format but burn to an blank disk (mp3 CD) in other words if they have 100 songs, they can be burned to one disk. I changed it to make it clearer to others since I don't want anyone else thinking I meant to convert.

No, I don't think people need to get comfortable with the key combo, they need to just set the iPod to manual before disconnecting the iPod from the PC and stop iTunes from opening when the iPod is connected.

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You say that YamiPod and SharePod actually go onto the iPod, are there downsides to this and can you remove it?
You can remove it from the iPod hard drive whenever you want. I use them both and haven't had any problems with using them nor transferring songs back to the PC with either. I've also use iPod Agent and still have that on my PC and use it with no problems.

The best thing to do to protect yourself is to always set the iPod to manual instead of auto even if you do it before you disconnect. You won't have this problem of losing your music when you connect it to the PC.
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honeybee1236.....you should make this post a sticky.




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honeybee1236.....you should make this post a sticky.
It is a stickie.
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With YamiPod and SharePod, I can export songs on my iPod to any computer via usb/firewire even if they don't have iTunes?
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With YamiPod and SharePod, I can export songs on my iPod to any computer via usb/firewire even if they don't have iTunes?

Yes, you can export to any PC even if it doesn't have iTunes installed on it. Just transfer the songs back to the computer into a folder like 'music' or whatever title you want to give it.

One difference between the two is that YamiPod will transfer songs to the iPod without iTunes and SharePod will not do this. It will only transfer songs off of the iPod to the computer.
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Re: A Simple Guide to Avoid Having iTunes Delete the iPod Library

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If your computer hard drive and/or your iPod hard drive crashes you need to first and foremost make sure that your music library is backed up to:
A) An external hard drive or
B) Blank CD's - as Audio CD's - best for importing back to computer
C) Blank DVD's - which hold 4.7 MB of data

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Always remember to back up your iTMS songs to a disk after you have downloaded them onto your computer. This way if anything happens you will always be able to transfer the songs back onto the computer. I think it's a good idea to make Audio CD's as your main copy. Apple does not allow you to redownload your iTMS songs if you lose, destroy, or damage the Product, and Apple will be without liability to you in the event of any loss, destruction, or damage. You can read more about the [/B]
While I agree that having a backup of your iTunes Library is an excellent idea, I disagree with burning your music files to CDs as an "audio" CD is the best method. I think making "data" CD's of your music files is the better method as this will retain all of your ID3 tags, and you also won't lose any audio quality if you need to restore the music files back into iTunes.




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