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Old 01-10-2005, 02:42 PM
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Stopping iTunes from deleting iPod music

Catch 22 situation here.

1. I transfer music to a friend's new iPod from my PC with iTunes set in manual mode.

2. She connects her iPod with the new music on it to her PC with iTunes set to auto-sync mode (which can't be changed unless the iPod is connected).

3. All the new music is deleted because iTunes wants sync with teh library on her PC.

How do I stop this from happening? Is there a way to change the auto-sync in iTunes without connecting an iPod to the PC running iTunes.

If you have a suggestion, please send mail to orientheights@att.net

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Welcome to the lounge. On your own computer, go to Edit>Preferences>iPod (while the iPod is connected) and set it to "manually manage songs and playlists" to stop auto sync'ing. Then just connect the iPod and drag-n-drop the songs onto the iPod from the other computer.

When it is connected to your own PC you can use a 3rd party app to extract the songs from the iPod and add them to your own library:

1-iPod Agent (http://www.ipodsoft.com/software.aspx)

2-YamiPod (http://www.yamipod.com)

3-SharePod (http://www25.brinkster.com/carmagt/SharePod)

All freeware and will extract the files. You can also just put the music files onto the iPod HD and drag them into the iTunes library.
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Another choice

The other choice is to delete iTunes (the program) from her computer. Use one of the uploading programs mentioned above (I have used sharepod, very successfully) to upload everything on her ipod to her hard drive. Then reinstall itunes, connect her ipod and set it to manually update. then drag everything you just uploaded to her itunes library.
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the ipod is beginning to P*ss me off, please someone help me

i tried the method above but everytime I think i've got it right another problem occurs.

For instance how come when you update your track list, you cannot not update the tracklist on your ipod? the button 'apply' is greyd out on the itunes menu, unless a new tracklist appears and you choose it, the 'apply' button lights up so you can add the new list.

also if you turn off sync and choose manual mode how come if you remove the "iTunes library", it STILL sync with the ipod and removes the songs??? i mean what if i need to format the computer, are you saying i have to friggin backup the library eveytime??

I think its just a way to market "APPLE co. products/programs" EVERYTHING must go through iTunes and tagged before it can be read on the ipod

if you use a 'playstation portable' or 'nintendo DS' you can manually create a folder if you wish, like a pc and name it whatever you want, copy the music across and BAM its readable.

but for ipods it MUST go through iTunes or they don't appear on ipod, and then from what you guys said i must use a extracting method to put them on pc, which PROVES they are tagged when moved to the ipod, because if you go to the ipod drive and open the files up they still are viewable i think. but as they are tagged you must extract them.

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All you have to do is click the "sync" button to update after making any changes in iTunes when the "Apply" button is greyed out.
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also if you turn off sync and choose manual mode how come if you remove the "iTunes library", it STILL sync with the ipod and removes the songs??? i mean what if i need to format the computer, are you saying i have to friggin backup the library eveytime??

Yup...as unbelievable as it seems, computer users actually have to back up their important files ;-) If you're doing lottsa risky/experimental work on your machine that requires frequent re-formatting or re-installation, you should p'bly look into creating a sandbox partition where accidents won't take down your whole OS; or start booting from an image so that the only thing blowing up is RAM.
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1. I didn't hunt for individual files where did you get that from, what applie file??
2. It is the plague too many unecessary options, backing up not hard?? When backing up, you burn stuff you d/led and programs to reinstall ...not keep project files you've burned...thats just pointless

3. Your wrong, I switched to manual mode and it still put itself to sync mode once i remove the library and all my songs on the ipod got removed

4. Itune is not magic? More like its a nightmare, sync mode and itunes obviously created to challenge pc programs and microsoft, such an unecessary option to have for a program.

Even in psp if i made a folder called 'stuff' it would show on the psp and all the files would be visible.....nice and simple all i do is copy the files over to the folder

What happened to the oldschool japanese mp3 players or md players??? Drag'n drop so easy

p.s whats with the crt+B option?? what part of "I dont' care they are listed in albums and artists" to me its still messy because its one long list of songs......once songs are moved they list should be removed, cased closed not stay there and pile up on other lists.

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yeah yeah i'm aware of "you must backup your files" when you do formatting
just one more useless file to backup, (until you plug in your ipod and your music is gone) obviously this is not the users fault but who created the music device
You're not supposed to hunt for individual files to copy when backing up inmportant data. Apple put that file in the users document folder so it gets backed up together with all other important stuuf you have there. You know, photos, movies, adress books, chat logs, program settings etc
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so are you saying its just a ipod negative feature I have no choice but to work around? that is just so lame
You make it sound like the plague? Just keep your computer backed up, it's not that hard.
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one last thing if this is true, does that mean even with sync mode off if i remove the library it will remove the songs off my ipod?
No, you can then connect that iPod to anybodys library and "feed it" from there.
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I ask is because when i upload a folder it puts it in the music section......its so freaking messy, one whole lump of songs (i don't care if they are seperated by album title or band title, its still one giant mess)
The music library section is just that; every file iTunes keeps track of. Press ctrl-B to get a better overview. If it's messy then you'll have to start correcting song info, iTunes isn't magic.
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1.what are you talking about, backing up individual files??, i don't remember mentioning that, what apple file???

2. i'm making it sound like the plague because its annoying, i mean if i burnt a cd/dvd i wouldn't backup a copy of the project, thats just pointless.

i would only make backup copies of stuff i've download amongst programs to reinstall, not tracklists and library, so trust me its annoying, although maybe its just a MAC thing

3. you said "NO" when i said, "will the iTunes still delete stuff if its still set to 'manually transfer music'" if i remove the stuff off the library.

well thats not true, i checked the 'manually move song" option and removed stuff off the library because as stated, i don't care if its sorted in terms of artists and albums it still is a huge splodge of songs in ONE list.......i remove this and iTUNE decided to put sync mode on and removed my songs on my ipod instantly

4. its not magic, but its programmed horribly.

as stated, even gaming devices have better straight forward PC format


eg. PSP, if i made a folder called "i luve porN"........the folder would be viewable, and the music or pictures or vids will be shown EXACTLY how i type it.

this sync rubbish and template is just a way to make it look unique when compared to microsoft and PC programs.

what happened to the old school japanese mp3 players/MD players......drag drop CASED CLOSED, not this rubbish

p.s feel free to reply but i won't be back, i've learnt all i can about ipods....blech
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