File not Found, but music is on the iPod

[estreetband]

I am having a weird problem. I just added some music to my 160GB Classic. But it said that 27 tracks hadn't been added as the file couldn't be found.
BUT after syncing I checked, the so-called missing tracks are actually on my iPod. They are also in my iTunes library, the preferences points to the correct HD so there's no reason why it should be doing this. I had to go and re-link them just make sure nothing goes wrong. But that's now twice it's done this today. With the same results, the album IS on the iPod despite it telling me it's not been added.

[Essin]

Just because the file can't be found in iTunes doesn't mean it'll get deleted from the ipod.

But if you had to re-link the songs, something is wrong in iTunes. Did you rename any folder or move any files in the iTunes Music folder?

[estreetband]

No i didn't move any folders. Nor rename any. I just re-linked them in case. I'm a newbie with iTunes so with the horror stories I've heard of it "removing" songs because they are not in the iTunes library I wasn't going to take any chances.

Personally I think iTunes is a dreadful piece of software. The fact you have to keep it loaded with your music at all times is a joke. If you don't it removes it from your iPod, unless of course you do manual syncs.

[Essin]

Originally Posted by estreetband

Personally I think iTunes is a dreadful piece of software. The fact you have to keep it loaded with your music at all times is a joke. If you don't it removes it from your iPod, unless of course you do manual syncs.

Well iTunes isn't intended to be an "iPod Loader" software. It's first and foremost a media organizer. So, keeping iTunes full with media is kinda the point here. Having it shove stuff onto an iPod is a bonus.

[estreetband]

Originally Posted by Essin

Well iTunes isn't intended to be an "iPod Loader" software. It's first and foremost a media organizer. So, keeping iTunes full with media is kinda the point here. Having it shove stuff onto an iPod is a bonus.

Sure if you say so. The manual way is pretty damn slow and very tedious and extremely slow. Plus as I said, if you use auto sync, you HAVE to keep your music in iTunes. Why the paranoids at Apple decided upon this god-awful way goodness knows why.

Even as a media organiser it's pretty poor, they way it moves and organises albums and artists is laughable.

So if iTunes isn't supposed to be "a loader" how are you supposed to put your music on without losing stuff because it's not in your library if you auto sync?

[Essin]

If you're so eager to go back to the dark ages, there are dozens of third party softwares that can dump mp3's onto your iPod.

[S2_Mac]

I get that you don't like the product...not sure about the reasons though...

The whole idea of syncing is to duplicate/update a source of materials onto a destination device. How would this work without a full collection on the source side? You'd be asking the user to make special marks on certain destination material, a la "Mark this item as protected for future syncs." No chance that would get terribly confusing for 12-year olds and 65-year olds...right?

Not sure why you experience manual updating as being slow; in my experience the actual data transfer happens at exactly the same speed as during a sync (or, for that matter, at the same speed as "hard drive mode" data transfers). Do you mean that it takes too long to hunt down material to move to the iPod? Maybe you need to explore more of iTunes' capabilities.... for instance, I keep a smart playlist in iTunes that displays everything added in the past week; once a week I view that list...a few seconds spent Command-click selecting and all new materials are on their way to the iPod. Same type of thing for getting "old" material off the iPod; a smart playlist created on the iPod that combines number of plays, number of skips, ratings, and date added easily lets me get rid of the dogs.

iTunes is like a CMS for music and viddies -- where files are kept is not all that important, since that ID3 tag info that iTunes uses is so much more comprehensive than any folder structure ever could be. (And a simple Control/Command-R instantly takes you to a track's containing folder.) I mean, how is the file system going to show you all your R&B compilations from the '80s that haven't been played in the last 2 months, or build a 2 hour list of every track penned by a particular composer that's longer than 4 minutes?

I know where you're coming from (I use Blosxom as my blogging software; folder-based all the way), but I soon realized that 20,000 tracks are just too much to deal with via the file system (at least, for any kind of flexibility). For sorting/listing/transferring my toonz, iTunes lets me matrix 3, 6, 8 or more dimensions as easily as making a few popup selections. Give it a chance....

[estreetband]

Originally Posted by Essin

If you're so eager to go back to the dark ages, there are dozens of third party softwares that can dump mp3's onto your iPod.

OK fanboy Why is that the majority of Apple product users think they are simply superior to everything out there

When in reality they are far from superior. The classic is a joke at the minute. So many faults and problems with the firmware. I mean a firmware out less than a week after release is not a good sign. And there are STILL problems they haven't fixed.

[estreetband]

Yup you're right I hate iTunes. it sucks big time. Why? Simple. Having to keep ALL your music on an extra HD. I had my Zen M 60GB, did I have to keep my music on a HD? Like hell I did. But the paranoids at Apple bow and scrape to the RIAA and make sure you have to keep all your music on a HD unless you do manual syncs.

Your point of syncing is moot. Who said anything about duplicate tracks or anything?
If I want to transfer tracks onto my Zen I just drag and drop the new album. Done. Finto. But not Apple, No you have tom sync the whole darn player. Pathetic.

I do NOT mean it takes too long to hunt down new material. I mean transferring anything either via sync or manual is terribly slow, and to be honest it's a pointless exercise with the speed. Even using my speedier new HD and main USB port it's still slower than it was transferring to my Zen.

Why on earth you think I was asking to "mark" as protected I don't know. I was simply stating iTunes sucks because of the FACT you have to keep everything in a library is flipping pathetic. Why you simply can't add and remove tracks without having to sync and use iTunes just shows how controlling Apple is.
The biggest gripe and it's a biggie, is use can't "enter" into the iPod and remove tracks, unlike my Zen which I could.

Who really cares about the number of times you skip a track? I don't like the fact that if you have a long artist name it doesn't show it in full.

I don't like the fact that if you don't tag an album exactly the same, it will show it up as seperate albums. That to me is rather too sensitive to be honest.

[Essin]

And we repeat, for the benefit of slow readers, "there are dozens of third party softwares that can dump mp3's onto your iPod". Nobody's holding a gun to your head forcing you to use iTunes. Lookie here! http://forums.ilounge.com/mac-pc-itunes-tools/
And you don't fancy the way the iPod displays info?
Give it new RockBox firmware!
http://forums.ilounge.com/a/

[estreetband]

Originally Posted by Essin

And we repeat, for the benefit of slow readers, "there are dozens of third party softwares that can dump mp3's onto your iPod". Nobody's holding a gun to your head forcing you to use iTunes. Lookie here! http://forums.ilounge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16
And you don't fancy the way the iPod displays info?
Give it new RockBox firmware!
http://forums.ilounge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79

Yeah RockBox and void my warranty If any one is slow........