Official iPod touch Discussion Thread

[tellis100]

I was slightly bummed about the 16GB limit since my 5G 30GB is normally full. There's not a ipod to date that will carry my collection (200GB). I don't think I would want one that large anyway. I pre-ordered the 16GB touch and resizing my smart playlists won't take long. It'll take some getting used too.

The larger screen will make the Family Guy episodes look cooler. Doesn't everyone carry FG with them???

[tellis100]

Plus in a year the 32GB flash memory will be cheaper making a Touch 2 gen

[tellis100]

not what to do with all my ifrogz cases. I got 3 last Christmas

[axl]

I would get one the day it comes out if it was at least 60GB. I was looking to replace my 30GB 5gen with a newer model but I'm definitely not upgrading to a iPod thats half the size.

[muffinmanAZ]

Originally Posted by Surf Monkey

People need to get over this insulting attitude. If the guy wants to carry around his whole library, there's nothing wrong with it. That usage is just as legitimate as anyone else's. I just find comments like yours snotty. Maybe the guy doesn't know exactly what he's going to want to watch or listen to. Maybe he just wants to have all his media with him all the time. Either way, he doesn't deserve the kind of vitriol you're throwing at him.

And you don't have an insulting attitude? I've seen some of your other posts and you seem to have some Captain Sassypants in yourself as well.

In case you didn't finish reading my post or reading his thoroughly, I was stating that by managing his library, he can get WHAT HE WANTS (a touch screen iPod). I'm a sarcastic person in general, but whether you'd like to believe or not (I don't care), I was trying to help him out.

As for the person who posted about the "50 hour road trips" - I think you'd run out of battery first. However, your opinion was well thought out and I do respect it. To each his/her own. I agree with you- compromises WILL have to be made for a chance to use a gorgeous 0.3" thick touch-screen flash-based iPod.



Kthx.

[pata2001]

Does the iPod Touch uses glass like the iPhone? If it's scratchy plastic, I don't think people will be happy.

[countach747]

Originally Posted by EricDra7en

Anyone think there's any hope of them putting a higher capacity touch for this Christmas season?

This Christmas season? No hope whatsoever. In fact I'm not sure yet they ever will. Maybe late next year they will put 32GB of flash in and never put a disk in, who knows?

[countach747]

Originally Posted by ZPWeeks

But try this: sort your entire library by "last played" date. I consider myself a pretty heavy-duty listener, and I was floored to discover that in the last month, I have only listened to about 5GB of my collection.

Sure, but here is the genius of the super large hard drive: You don't have to think before hand what you want to look at or listen to. Just plonk all your podcasts, all your music and most of your movies on there, end of thought process.

Now you can easily fit enough stuff for a month in 16GB, but you have to think a lot more. You can't carry all the episodes of all the podcasts you care about. You have to limit it to more recent ones, or less podcasts. You can't take even all the music you like, let alone your whole collection. You have to pick what you think you want to listen to. You can't plonk a whole range of video material on there, you have to be much more selective.

All this is only partially mitigated by clever use of playlists. They can't solve everything. They can't solve the podcast problem for example.

So yes, no problem you can survive in 16GB, or even 8GB. But it will take more work and thought on your part on your computer.

[porieux]

Originally Posted by ZPWeeks

But try this: sort your entire library by "last played" date. I consider myself a pretty heavy-duty listener, and I was floored to discover that in the last month, I have only listened to about 5GB of my collection. If I add everything I listened to this summer, it's about 12GB.
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Yeah but did you select that 5GB in advance or just play whatever you felt like at any given time out of a much larger library? Some people want to decide what they are going to listen to when they are going to listen to it, not in advance.

[yinyang]

Originally Posted by countach747

Sure, but here is the genius of the super large hard drive: You don't have to think before hand what you want to look at or listen to. Just plonk all your podcasts, all your music and most of your movies on there, end of thought process.

Now you can easily fit enough stuff for a month in 16GB, but you have to think a lot more. You can't carry all the episodes of all the podcasts you care about. You have to limit it to more recent ones, or less podcasts. You can't take even all the music you like, let alone your whole collection. You have to pick what you think you want to listen to. You can't plonk a whole range of video material on there, you have to be much more selective.

All this is only partially mitigated by clever use of playlists. They can't solve everything. They can't solve the podcast problem for example.

So yes, no problem you can survive in 16GB, or even 8GB. But it will take more work and thought on your part on your computer.

but with good use of ratings and smart playlists you should be able to get a lot of what you may need for a week's worth of watching/listening.

anyway i'm looking forward to trying to see if you can use the iTouch safari to call up iTunes from my Powerbook and listen to my entire library that way

three more weeks to wait...!

[Jesse Hollington]

Actually, sometimes the benefit of a smaller device with a good set of smart playlists is that it forces you to consider music you might not have otherwise listened to.

If I build smart playlists to help me explore my library and then load them onto my Nano, I'm much more inclined to listen to what's there, rather than trying to find something specific to listen to.

On the other hand, there are also a lot of people who really just listen to the same music over and over and over again (this would be why my wife is more than happy with her 8GB nano, for instance ).

[skateboarderx24]

my parents have promised me the 16gig for xmas... I already have a 30 gig gen5.5 which is only 2/3 full.. so I think I should be fine with 16 gigs.. glad I didnt buy the iPhone... this is what I want...

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Mr. E.

Well, muffinman wasn't speaking to me, either, but since they were critical of raz's comments, and raz seems to share my views, then I guess muffinman was criticizing me as well.

Since the iPhone was introduced there have been many people clamoring for a high-capacity device with the same features/interface. This is not that device. I understand that many people don't feel the need to carry around their entire libraries, but the fact that Apple even bothered to double the capacity of the iPod Classic says that even they know that many people do like to have all of their media at their fingertips. Saying that this device doesn't fit that need, but does fit other needs, is fine. Saying that someone else is wrong to want something you don't want... that strikes me as less fine.

I don't regularly go on 50 hour plane trips, but I do regularly go out of town for 50 hours or more, and I don't always know what I'll be in the mood to listen to/watch when I get where I'm going, and I don't take a laptop. I also take twice as many books as I'm likely to read. They weigh down my luggage, but I also get to change my mind about what the next book will be on the fly. I understand the frustration of wanting the features of the iPhone with the capacity of the iPod Classic. The iTouch is nice, but it doesn't quite get you there. It seems like it'll make some people very happy, and that's a good thing, but for me, it's frustrating for being just a stone's throw from two devices I'd like to have. I'd like to have the iPhone without the data plan, and I'd like to carry my whole library with me, not because I can't manage my library. I'm well aware that 90% of my iPod use comes from three or four playlists that could be synced to a smaller device. I just like to plan for that 10%. And there's nothing wrong with that.

The iTouch is cool. There's no doubt about it. But when I'm putting a few hundred dollars towards whats basically a pretty toy, I don't want to make too many compromises, and I think that's what bugs some of us about the iTouch: It gives you just enough of what you want to make you want it, but not quite enough to make you crazy about it.

Just for refernce purposes, all of my music is LAME encoded with the highest quality VBR settings.

My 'main' playlist is 1746 tracks, which works out to about 5 days of non stop listening without a repeat (about 120 hours worth). And it's under 12GB.

And yes, I realize some people want/must-have their entire library with them at all times. That's fine too. The touch is just not the device for them at this time.

[pik.]

Originally Posted by pata2001

Does the iPod Touch uses glass like the iPhone? If it's scratchy plastic, I don't think people will be happy.

I m interested also to know that...

[owen-b]

Just get an Invisible Shield for it and it won't matter if it's glass or scratchy plastic - it won't matter about the shiny metal back either! All of it will look as awesome as the day you bought it, even months of abuse later!