Official iPod touch Discussion Thread

[sircheesecake]

Ive already preordered my 16gb ipod touch but i have one question. Does the ipod touch have a glass front or the scratchmagnet front of the other ipods?

[goldenman]

Originally Posted by sircheesecake

Ive already preordered my 16gb ipod touch but i have one question. Does the ipod touch have a glass front or the scratchmagnet front of the other ipods?

I'm really hoping it will be a glass front, I don't see why not.

[raz1337]

I've been using an 80GB 5th Gen for the last 6 months, and I was looking forward to buying an ipod similar to it but with widescreen within the next few months, but this is disappointing. I only have 4GB of music, but I also have 19GB of movies and 39GB of tv shows, so I'm not putting out the money for it if I want to carry around 2 ipods.

I'm just not running out of space, so the classic isn't worth it to me, either. I keep my ipod in an iskin evo3. So, it's quite thick, takes up about twice as much room or more with the case on it. The case keeps it safe, though, so it's worth it to have it be a little thicker.

[EricDra7en]

16GB - are you kidding me? Are you freakin' kidding me??

I was waiting and waiting for a widescreen iPod forever. I finally broke down and bought an 80GB a few months ago. I love it and I'm glad I did, because I SURE ain't buying an iPod with less than 40GB - preferably 60GB. A lot of the appeal of an iPod to me was the ability to carry my whole music collection with me. Now that there are movies and t.v. shows it's ridiculous to me to think of a 16GB iPod.

Anyone think there's any hope of them putting a higher capacity touch for this Christmas season?

[yinyang]

i stopped worrying about having my entire music collection on my iPod quite a while ago - the 60Gb iPod photo is now used as an external HD for photo backup. my 2G shuffle is what i use these days awya from home. at home my mac is on constant shuffle, so i still get to listen to all my music.

for me the 'iTouch' is a better option for watching video on the move as well as doing things like web browsing/email checking on the move (all my mail is accessible via web interfaces), and my current phone contract goes for another 18 months! plus no 3G iPhone yet!!

[muffinmanAZ]

Originally Posted by raz1337

I've been using an 80GB 5th Gen for the last 6 months, and I was looking forward to buying an ipod similar to it but with widescreen within the next few months, but this is disappointing. I only have 4GB of music, but I also have 19GB of movies and 39GB of tv shows, so I'm not putting out the money for it if I want to carry around 2 ipods.

Do you really need to carry around 19GB of movies and 39GB of tv shows with you at all times? Plan on going on many 50 hour plane trips?

I think if you practice better library (in particular, VIDEO) management, you can get what you want in the 16 GB iPod touch.

[Surf Monkey]

Originally Posted by muffinmanAZ

Do you really need to carry around 19GB of movies and 39GB of tv shows with you at all times? Plan on going on many 50 hour plane trips?

I think if you practice better library (in particular, VIDEO) management, you can get what you want in the 16 GB iPod touch.

People need to get over this insulting attitude. If the guy wants to carry around his whole library, there's nothing wrong with it. That usage is just as legitimate as anyone else's. I just find comments like yours snotty. Maybe the guy doesn't know exactly what he's going to want to watch or listen to. Maybe he just wants to have all his media with him all the time. Either way, he doesn't deserve the kind of vitriol you're throwing at him.

[tanik]

I think maybe most of you guys are missing the point. They aren't creating these new iPods solely for former owners to trade up. This is simply the latest and greatest way to attract new customers who may not have the huge music library that some audiophiles do. Like me for instance - I have 20G 5th generation and I'm having the worst time filling it...this new iPod is perfect for me. And honestly, is anyone just as flipping annoyed with the clickwheel? It's entirely too cumbersome. Having a touch screen will rock with some of the iTunes games too.

[mdibella]

Well, Apple could sell me TWO new iPods with the release of one accessory. I'd buy a huge classic iPod for carrying my 'stuff' with me and I'd buy a widescreen one for watching videos...IF there were a way to transfer files between the two on the fly. I don't want to have to carry my laptop PC around with me, I just want to use the classic as a music player and as a storage medium for large videos, and to transfer the video files to the widescreen iPod when I want to watch them. Since both iPods would be registered to me, it seems like they could add some level of security to the process so they can verify I'm just using my own purchased files. I'm not talking about some huge gadget, just some cabling with connectors on both sides. Couldn't they do this with a firmware upgrade that would let my two iPods talk to each other when they're cabled together, and to verify that they're both mine so they're satisfied I'm not cheating?

I'm also a bit curious as to whether the widescreen will have a way to DELETE files on the fly if someone wants to download content to an iPod that's already full up.

[toothpaste]

^^EITHER way he is not addressing you, surf monkey. I also don't understand the need for carry everything at all times. Makes no sense. He is permitted to voice his opinions, so if you don't like them don't read them.

[Mr. E.]

Well, muffinman wasn't speaking to me, either, but since they were critical of raz's comments, and raz seems to share my views, then I guess muffinman was criticizing me as well.

Since the iPhone was introduced there have been many people clamoring for a high-capacity device with the same features/interface. This is not that device. I understand that many people don't feel the need to carry around their entire libraries, but the fact that Apple even bothered to double the capacity of the iPod Classic says that even they know that many people do like to have all of their media at their fingertips. Saying that this device doesn't fit that need, but does fit other needs, is fine. Saying that someone else is wrong to want something you don't want... that strikes me as less fine.

I don't regularly go on 50 hour plane trips, but I do regularly go out of town for 50 hours or more, and I don't always know what I'll be in the mood to listen to/watch when I get where I'm going, and I don't take a laptop. I also take twice as many books as I'm likely to read. They weigh down my luggage, but I also get to change my mind about what the next book will be on the fly. I understand the frustration of wanting the features of the iPhone with the capacity of the iPod Classic. The iTouch is nice, but it doesn't quite get you there. It seems like it'll make some people very happy, and that's a good thing, but for me, it's frustrating for being just a stone's throw from two devices I'd like to have. I'd like to have the iPhone without the data plan, and I'd like to carry my whole library with me, not because I can't manage my library. I'm well aware that 90% of my iPod use comes from three or four playlists that could be synced to a smaller device. I just like to plan for that 10%. And there's nothing wrong with that.

The iTouch is cool. There's no doubt about it. But when I'm putting a few hundred dollars towards whats basically a pretty toy, I don't want to make too many compromises, and I think that's what bugs some of us about the iTouch: It gives you just enough of what you want to make you want it, but not quite enough to make you crazy about it.

[ZPWeeks]

Seems like most people are alarmed by the lack of a hard drive. I was at first - I placed a preorder for the 16GB Touch, but then started having second thoughts. I weighed the pros and cons of getting the new Classic. True, I could still carry my whole 53GB library with me, which has always been my approach.
But try this: sort your entire library by "last played" date. I consider myself a pretty heavy-duty listener, and I was floored to discover that in the last month, I have only listened to about 5GB of my collection. If I add everything I listened to this summer, it's about 12GB.
Obviously you can't fit a hard drive in a 0.3" thin device. Some people (myself included) would gladly take a thicker one, but I'm looking forward to trying it with a smaller on-the-go library with the majority of the stuff I actually listen to, and keeping some of the more obscure stuff at home.
I'm weirded out by it. I have always been anal about being able to carry my entire library with me and pick anything at any time. But I think that this will force me to learn more about what music I am buying and what I am actually listening to.

[tonyclifton]

Thats interesting, you see I am hung up on the capacity - yet I only have 5g of music and hardly listen to most of it...I also have yet to use video, but just assume I will need loads of space even though I cant think of why I would want it or use it

Some of your points make for interesting reading and self analysis but may also have practical consequences....if you only have 16 gbs of space to carry (although obviously you can store more elsewhere) will it make people analyse their own music habits and more importantly music buying habits. Could limiting the capacity of such a high demand product actually reduce people's music buying habits....will i like it? will i listen to it? will i like it enough to have it on my ipod ahead of other stuff?

the itouch is making it easier for us to buy music with the addition of wifi and the starbucks deal, but without the storage space for it and those 'impulse buys' they hope to get from us are they shooting themselves in the foot and hobbling their own product?

Originally Posted by ZPWeeks

Seems like most people are alarmed by the lack of a hard drive. I was at first - I placed a preorder for the 16GB Touch, but then started having second thoughts. I weighed the pros and cons of getting the new Classic. True, I could still carry my whole 53GB library with me, which has always been my approach.
But try this: sort your entire library by "last played" date. I consider myself a pretty heavy-duty listener, and I was floored to discover that in the last month, I have only listened to about 5GB of my collection. If I add everything I listened to this summer, it's about 12GB.
Obviously you can't fit a hard drive in a 0.3" thin device. Some people (myself included) would gladly take a thicker one, but I'm looking forward to trying it with a smaller on-the-go library with the majority of the stuff I actually listen to, and keeping some of the more obscure stuff at home.
I'm weirded out by it. I have always been anal about being able to carry my entire library with me and pick anything at any time. But I think that this will force me to learn more about what music I am buying and what I am actually listening to.

[studogvetmed]

Originally Posted by Mr. E.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/

I like how he mentions the wifi and then tries to build suspense as he leads into the fact that Safari is on the iPhone. Why would they even put wifi on there if there wasn't a browser as well? "Not only did we add wifi, but, and you're not going to believe this, we also added a way for you to actually use it."

Given that other media devices have had wifi, but not a more interesting way to use it the lead up, though cheesy, was warranted.

Take the Zune. How excited did everyone get about wi-fi on the Zune to only find out you could only use it to "share" between another Zune?

[chris_01]

not only am I disappointed in the iTouch, I think apple is shooting itself in the foot a bit.

The combination of Wifi and an Itunes store is going to create an opportunity for a lot of impulse purchases. I see a group of friends(most likely teenieboppers) sitting in a cafe talking about and hyping a new album or movie. The thought process will be: I need this, I can get it easily right now, click, buy. With the 16g capacity limitation it will be: I need this, I can get it easily right now, click, oh crap it won't fit.

I would gladly pay another $50-75 for an iTouch with 80gb. they could still sell plenty of 160gb Ipod Classics for audiophiles with huge libraries that don't want or need widescreen video.


note: I posted this in the future ipods forum a second ago before noticing the new itouch forum, I didn't read this whole thread yet, but more people will see it here.