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Topic: Why you *CANNOT* replace a mini 1G battery with a 2G one

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Old 03-04-2005, 08:50 AM
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Note to all: Why you *CANNOT* replace a mini 1G battery with a 2G one

For those wondering if you can just send your iPod mini 1G back to Apple for a replacement higher capacity battery, you cannot.

The reason?

The iPod mini 2G does not use a higher capacity battery.

The reason why the 2G gets longer battery life is because Apple replaced the PortalPlayer chipset inside the iPod mini 2G with the new one (Check iPodlounge front news) which gives triple the battery life using the same battery.

The chipset itself cannot be replaced as it is soldered onto the circuitry.

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Old 03-04-2005, 10:12 AM
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Don't forget about a more efficient hard drive, the new 4GB and 6GB iPods use a new hard drive. Thanks for posting this, there are too many questions that regard this.

I wouldn't be surprised if a third party company comes out with a higher capacity battery in the future, but looking at current models my guess is that it would only add around a 30% increase.



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Ah, good to see a proper explanation now. Any chance of this being a sticky as there seems to be about 3 threads a day asking the question?
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Just made this thread "sticky".




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Dang, that sux man. I was hoping it would just be a simple case of switching the battery... and voila... 20plus hrs. ah well... thanks for the info tho...



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so, this means if u send your 1G ipod mini in for a new battery, the'll replace it with 8hr battery?
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Finally, someone has tried to put an end to this.

And finally, now all you mini owners, you know what it feels like to be *outdated*. It's alittle degrading now... isn't it? :P





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Finally, someone has tried to put an end to this.

And finally, now all you mini owners, you know what it feels like to be *outdated*. It's alittle degrading now... isn't it? :P
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Finally, someone has tried to put an end to this.

And finally, now all you mini owners, you know what it feels like to be *outdated*. It's alittle degrading now... isn't it? :P
Doesn't really bother me, what does is my 7 hours of battery life, I would much prefer to be able to upgrade the Mini battery, but regardless of whether the Mini 2G does not have a better battery, I am hoping that someone will sell a replacement battery for the mini that will upgrade battery life as people have done for the Ipod 1,2,3, and 4th gen Ipods.

I do have a suspicion that Apple did improve the battery a little bit along with the power requirement improvements, something like 30%. While the new processor surely helped a lot, I don't think the change from 8hours to 26hours (as measured by IpodLounge) is only attributed to the cpu change.

I would like to see if anyone took this apart for actual confirmation.




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ok, thanks i was wondering about that...
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Hmm, kinda like if the 5G iPod was to have 36 hours for battery life and the 4G iPod owners would want to put a 5G battery in their 4G iPod



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Doesn't really bother me, what does is my 7 hours of battery life, I would much prefer to be able to upgrade the Mini battery, but regardless of whether the Mini 2G does not have a better battery, I am hoping that someone will sell a replacement battery for the mini that will upgrade battery life as people have done for the iPod 1,2,3, and 4th gen iPods.

I do have a suspicion that Apple did improve the battery a little bit along with the power requirement improvements, something like 30%. While the new processor surely helped a lot, I don't think the change from 8hours to 26hours (as measured by iPodLounge) is only attributed to the cpu change.

I would like to see if anyone took this apart for actual confirmation.
Oh dear, there is no battery you can fit to a 4G to increase the battery life.(there is for the 1G,2G and 3G) You should really listen. The new chip trebles the power life (an increase of 300% not 30%) and through other tweaks it gets a long life.

There is no bigger battery inside (if there is it probably adds a tiny improvement and could be incompatible with the 1G mini).

They have also made power savings elsewhere - the Hard Disk is more effecient and the software is probably written better.



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Oh dear, there is no battery you can fit to a 4G to increase the battery life.(there is for the 1G,2G and 3G) You should really listen. The new chip trebles the power life (an increase of 300% not 30%) and through other tweaks it gets a long life.

There is no bigger battery inside (if there is it probably adds a tiny improvement and could be incompatible with the 1G mini).

They have also made power savings elsewhere - the Hard Disk is more effecient and the software is probably written better.
Battery upgrade for 4G Ipod:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer...gy/BIPOD750M4/

I was simply implying that nobody has actually taken apart a 2G Ipod Mini and verified that it is the same battery, and until then it is not a fact and should not be stated as such. I put in my opinion that perhaps a slightly better capacity battery was included as one of the many variables which contributed to this large increase in battery life. Until someone takes one apart, anything we say is speculation. The chip itself may take a third of the power, but the chip is not the only thing that drains power from the Ipod battery. Also, saying that the hard drive is more efficient and the firmware is coded better is really an assumption that was made, nobody from Apple has confirmed this.

So far the only fact is that there is a more efficient processor in the new mini, other than that all is speculation until we hear from somebody who has actually taken apart a Mini 2G. So excuse me for not taking everything I read on a message board as a god-given fact so you could ride in on your high-horse and correct me.




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I thought that apple gave you a new ipod when you sent it in. If not, then why does it take longer for a personalized ipod to get returned? Maybe I read wrong, that does not sound very cost effective.
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I thought that apple gave you a new ipod when you sent it in. If not, then why does it take longer for a personalized ipod to get returned? Maybe I read wrong, that does not sound very cost effective.
It depends, a battery replacmenent is fairly routine. Apple replaces if there is something else like a dead hard drive or messed up screen. In that case they would still fix it and send it out to someone as a replacement refurbished.




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