Become a member of the iLounge Forums. Register Now!
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the Forum FAQ and Forum Policy.

Topic: How can I get a playlist off my new 160 GB ipod classic and into itunes?

Reply Thread Tools Topic Search
 
Old 10-26-2007, 12:33 PM
#1
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2
How can I get a playlist off my new 160 GB ipod classic and into itunes?

I just got a new 160gb ipod classic and it's great but I've recently encountered a bit of a problem... I need to get a playlist off my ipod that has been deleted from my itunes library and programs like Irip don't work for the new ipods... it's a very important playlist, took me days to compose, I really need to extract it, does anyone know how can it be done?

I think it's silly that you can't move playlists from your ipod back into itunes... apple should fix this...
poopoopoopoopoo is offline  
Reply With Quote

Join the iLounge Community and the ad above will disappear.

Old 10-26-2007, 12:51 PM
#2
 

 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Pub
Posts: 5,356

If you auto-sync, the On The Go playlist on your iPod will copy itself from your iPod back to iTunes when you re-sync. So if you auto-sync, add the missing playlist which is still on your iPod to the OTG playlist, re-sync and then re-name the OTG playlist when it gets added to iTunes.

But if your iPod is in manual mode, have you tried Music Rescue? Their site indicates that it supports the Classic, give it a try:

http://www.kennettnet.co.uk/musicrescue/
rockmyplimsoul is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 12:59 PM
#3
 
Been around a while
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 269

Quote:
Originally Posted by poopoopoopoopoo
I just got a new 160gb ipod classic and it's great but I've recently encountered a bit of a problem... I need to get a playlist off my ipod that has been deleted from my itunes library and programs like Irip don't work for the new ipods... it's a very important playlist, took me days to compose, I really need to extract it, does anyone know how can it be done?

I think it's silly that you can't move playlists from your ipod back into itunes... apple should fix this...

Depending on how many songs are in this play list you could hold down the center circle button on each song and add it to the on the go play list and then sync. This would create a new play list that once synced to itunes could be renamed and edited as you see fit. I know this would take some work but it is one way to save it. Another would be to change all the rating on the songs in this play list to lets say 5 stars then create a smart play list that only looks for 5 star songs.
I hope this helps.

Shameless
Shameless1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2007, 04:01 PM
#4
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 10

Does Music Rescue drag the entire music files off the iPod or just put playlist back on to iTunes?
SpyWriter is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2007, 11:09 PM
#5
 
Reclined Lounger
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 361

CopyTrans will copy the files back into iTunes with ratings, play counts. It also copies the playlist into iTunes also. I don't think it recreates the Smart Playlist, just a regular playlist of the songs.

You might also be able to add the entire playlist into an On The Go playlist by holding down the center button when in the playlist menu and highlighting your playlist.

Lauren



Shazbot, Nano, Nano.
laurenglenn is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2007, 04:07 AM
#6
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 10

I have downloaded CopyTrans & followed instructions but it tells me I need 4GB of memory space (the entire contents of iPod mini); all I want to do is return the lists with playcounts, download dates etc. If I have to download all the music files I will have to buy a memory stick to store them on as my laptop does not have 4GB of free space/

If I connect my iPod to the almost empty iTunes (it is in automatic mode) it will remove songs from the iPod; I cannot work out how to change to manual without connecting up.
SpyWriter is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 11:33 AM
#7
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1
Stop look listen!

no need for all this talk of 3rd party programs....



1. plug in ipod

2. when playlists appear in itunes (under ipod device)

right click on desired playlist > export > choose somewhere nice to save

then

3. file > library > import playlist > find xml in that nice saved place




robert is now your father's brother.
lombaddddd is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 01:39 PM
#8
 

 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Pub
Posts: 5,356

Quote:
Originally Posted by lombaddddd View Post
no need for all this talk of 3rd party programs....
Yes, there is still a need for 3rd party apps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lombaddddd
2. when playlists appear in itunes (under ipod device)

right click on desired playlist > export > choose somewhere nice to save
See, the problem is that you can't do this -- iTunes will not let you export a playlist that is on an iPod.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lombaddddd
robert is now your father's brother.
Not quite, with advice like this Bob's disowned you as a nephew
rockmyplimsoul is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2011, 08:55 PM
#9
 
Veteran Lounger
 
S2_Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: About 3 feet in front of the monitor
Posts: 4,878

See, the problem is that you can't do this -- iTunes will not let you export a playlist that is on an iPod.

Umm, don't clip Bob out of the family album just yet <g> On my manually managed 2G iPod touch running iOS 3.1.3 and a Mac running iTunes 9.2.1, this works just fine. The exported iPod playlist has no file associations, so these normal iTunes playlist keys are missing from the exported iPod playlist: File Type, Location, File Folder Count, and Library Folder Count. Other than those four, all the other normal metadata is there.

Here's the real kicker -- the exported iPod tracks do not have to have the same Persistent ID as the tracks in the importing iTunes library! Apparently iTunes can locate the exported iPod track in an iTunes library solely on the sensible-to-humans metadata -- track name, artist, album, file kind, etc. -- without needing a Persistent ID match. For instance, I loaded a file into a dummy iTunes library in a test user account, and then loaded that file onto the iPod; then I exported that track in an iPod playlist. Then I switched to one of my normal user accounts (and a normal iTunes library) and also loaded the file into that library -- the two libraries assigned different Persistent IDs to the track, and each library had its own copy of the file. When the exported iPod playlist was imported into the normal iTunes library, everything went fine, despite the exported playlist's use of a different Persistent ID for that track. So...wow!

(And yes -- I took the next logical step and imported the iPod playlist into another iTunes library that did not have that file. As you would expect, the import failed since iTunes couldn't the file.)

So, as long as your iPod tracks are in an iTunes library (and some/all sensible-to-humans metadata is the same), an iPod playlist will import swimmingly. I guess the next step is to determine precisely which bits of metadata have to match, but I'm weary now....

Though I do agree with you -- 3rd party sw is still needed....to pull files off a non-HD iPod. But for the needs of the years-ago OP -- restoring an iPod's static playlist-but-not-its-files to an iTunes library -- lombaddddd's advice works...provided the files represented by those tracks exist in the destination iTunes library.
S2_Mac is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2011, 03:07 PM
#10
 
Veteran Lounger
 
S2_Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: About 3 feet in front of the monitor
Posts: 4,878

Update: I played around with metadata, and it appears that only Name, Artist, and Album need to match between the iPod and iTunes. And a fuzzy match at that... I used Paul Collins' new giveaway mp3, "Do You Wanna Love Me" as a test track. When I added an accent grave to "Love" (e.g. Lové) on the iTunes file, the iPod track still imported fine.

Other things that don't seem to matter:
File Kind -- no probs when the iPod had the file as mp3 and iTunes had it as aac
Track Number -- no probs when the iPod had the track as 2 of 13 and iTunes had it as 4 of 13

I had to devote the computer to some work, so no results yet on whether a difference in Album Artist or Part of a Compilation spoils the import.
S2_Mac is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2011, 08:37 PM
#11
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2

This is exactly what I was looking for!!!! The last thing I want was to install another 3rd party software with spyware etc...

Just follow the directions above.

Just to the left of your connected device name on the iTunes menu, in my case it was my "iPhone 4", there is an arrow, just click and it will expand the contents of your device.

Your music, movies, etc..including playlists will be listed. Just right click the playlist you want and export. I exported mine to my desktop.

Then choose File/Library/Imprort Playlist and select the text file you just crated and bam! its back baby! This saved me so much time.....Thanks.

BTW, my itunes music and playlist matched.

Pete
pbedrosi is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2011, 02:14 PM
#12
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by lombaddddd View Post
no need for all this talk of 3rd party programs....



1. plug in ipod

2. when playlists appear in itunes (under ipod device)

right click on desired playlist > export > choose somewhere nice to save

then

3. file > library > import playlist > find xml in that nice saved place




robert is now your father's brother.

You Sir are Genius!!!! I have been trying to find out how to bring playlist back to iTunes to put on other devices without doing it 1 song at a time etc...for a YEAR!!! Thank Thank Thank YOU!!!
luxlamf is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 04:12 PM
#13
 
Freshman Lounger
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 1
playlists

S2 mac and lombadddd,

i have tried the simple method you both have described in moving playlists from ipod to itunes, but it doesn't work for me for some reason. i am able to see the title of the playlist ("90's rock") move over to itunes, but none of the songs move over, it's just empty. I have an older model 30GB ipod and am using windows...is that maybe the issue?
s2 mac - i even went thru the thread you showed from a few years back, and read your info there, but no luck. any suggestions?????
smashmouth is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 08:11 PM
#14
 
Veteran Lounger
 
S2_Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: About 3 feet in front of the monitor
Posts: 4,878

The method outlined by lombaddddd is for getting just a list off the iPod...not the music files. This was a big deal at the time, 'cuz we were all used to iTunes playlist behavior -- importing an exported playlist required all the music files specified in the export, at the exact filepaths specified in the export; without the files, nothing imported, not even the list items. lombaddddd's method lets you import list items, as long as iTunes has files whose Name, Artist, and Album tags match the list items' tags. (So now it's possible to import iTunes playlists without the actual files; you just remove the filepaths from the export file. But iTunes still needs to see files with matching tags in order to import list items.)

You want to copy files off the iPod as well as list items, so you're going to need 3rd party software. (If you have a Classic or other disk-based iPod, you can get the files off by hand; there's a tutorial here at iLounge about that, up in the Help section. But it can be a hassle to do by hand; software is quick and easy.) I always recommend TouchCopy -- $25, works like a champ.
S2_Mac is offline  
Reply With Quote

Topic: How can I get a playlist off my new 160 GB ipod classic and into itunes?

Reply Thread Tools Topic Search

Become a member of the iLounge Forums. Register Now!
To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the Forum FAQ and Forum Policy.
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





View iLounge History. Read our old Forums Archive (2001-2003)
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:50 AM.


Shop for Accessories: Cases, speakers, chargers, etc.