Pioneer CD-IB100 iPod Adapter

[tarafsu]

Pioneer's adapter is going to be out in March 2005. It's on a different type of connection so it should have the 255 song limitations eliminated. If anyone has tried it or seen it in action, comment on what you think. I think I might be switching to Pioneer, I was excited about Alpine, but now, I'm reconsidering my options.


Check it out! (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14510)

[mrbigbri]

Sweet! Look at that, I shouldn't even have to buy a new pioneer head unit. I'll be waiting for this one.

Brian

[tarafsu]

What Pioneer HU do you have? I know just a wee-bit about Pioneer.

[shogun77]

Been waiting for this since announced at CES. Nice to see Pioneer staying innovative and great timing considering I just joined the iPod world a few weeks ago. Good-bye CD changer. :)

Cheapest place I've seen it is here:http://www.digitallyunique.com/cd-ib100.html

The manual can be found here:http://www.service.pioneer-eur.com/peeservice/RegistrInstrMan.nsf/(CountDownloadinInstructionManuals3)?openagent&ID=0666CA6FFA5FFF24C1256FAB00362261&Attachment=CZR2983_CD-IB100.pdf

[THX]

Thanks for the links all, I just read through the manual and there's no mention of a song # barrier. The menu even mimmicks the ipod's which is pretty neat.

If song scrolling is fast and there is no barrier Alpine will lose a long-time customer.

[foltster]

I really excited to see a review on this adapter. With luck it will be a better solution than the Alpine setup.

Did anybody get a chance to see the IPOD controls on one of the touch screen DVD players on Demo at CES? Ive seen pictures, but Im wondering how well it will flow from screen to scree, and what kind of speed it will offer vs the others.

[ninjavshippo]

better ipod adapter wouldn't be enough for me to get away from the quality of alpine HUs vs. pioneer (or even kenwood). IMO, Alpine's been head and shoulders above the rest for years.

[THX]

Look at the specs on the latest Pioneers. Here's the one I'm looking at, the 860MP (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4041_64496601,00.html?compName=PNA_Product DetailComponent):

6.5V preouts
24-bit Burr Brown DACs
13-band EQ
Multicolor Organic EL display

Alpine is still sticking with its own 1-bit DAC and it's higher end head unit only outputs 4v. I have always preferred Alpine but maybe it's time to try something new, but yes I can understand your loyalty. :) To me the only thing I'm really interested in is Alpine's little touch strip. That should be handy.

[tarafsu]

the touch strip wont make a difference if it takes 2-3 sec. to scroll and it has a 255 song barrier.

not so much worth it then... i really want to see what bugs pioneer has fixed, and then i will probably make my decision :o)

[WhatTheSchmidt]

i can't wait till i can get this :)

i have the DEH7300

[hardisonthefloo]

i found this:
click here (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-flXnVLFrcPL/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=469PIOPRCA&g=50900&search=ip+bus+rca)

all you would have to do is get a headphone>rca cord and this should work just fine, and its cheap!

[mcubed45]

i know alipine's known for having some of the best sound quality on the market, but as of late their aesthetics have been somewhat mediocre. the last deck i really liked from alpine was the 7355 (i think that's the model number). pioneer's got alpine beat when it comes to looks IMHO. i know most audiophiles don't care about looks, but i like a deck that sounds good AND looks good. pioneer sound quality is nothing to complain about by any means, and i'd be more than willing to take a flashy pioneer deck over a slightly-better sounding drab alpine deck. pretty much the only deciding factor up till now was that alpine was the only one offering ipod compatability...

[aws6000]

I played with the Pioneer adapters at CES, they're on par with the Alpines as far as speed. Same thing with Clarion.

[tarafsu]

do you know if they had the 255 song barrier too?

[aws6000]

Originally posted by tarafsu
do you know if they had the 255 song barrier too?

Sorry, but I don't. The show floor of CES is tough to find out the details and idosyncracies of a product. Everyone seems to be doing the same thing as Alpine in that the ipod adapters convert the ipod into a cd changer. It wouldn't surprise me if the Pioneers have limitations similar to Alpine. I wouldn't believe anything you read from the manufacturers. This forum seems to have the best reviews and hands on info when it comes to ipod related stuff.

BTW... Kenwood has announced their iPod interface. It will be a little more expensive than Pioneer and Alpine, probably $150 retail.

[tarafsu]

Kenwood too! Dang, every company is on a roll!

Where did you find info about Kenwood's? I'm trying to figure out the best option since I'm going full out buying a HU and the Adapter all at once.

[aws6000]

Kenwood adapter:

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000543033036/

[WhatTheSchmidt]

Originally posted by hardisonthefloo
i found this:
click here (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-flXnVLFrcPL/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=469PIOPRCA&g=50900&search=ip+bus+rca)

all you would have to do is get a headphone>rca cord and this should work just fine, and its cheap!

thats ######ed, why not pay twice as much and not drain your ipod, have a cleaner install, and be able to use it fully with your stereo.

[live2sk8]

I don't suppose anyone has a full compatibility list of all compatible headunits?

I noticed the cheapest specific HU mentioned in the manual was the DEH-P4700MP. Does the P3700MP, which has an IP-BUS port, not work?

I just got an 05 Subaru Impreza RS and plan to buy some sort of hardwired solution this spring.

[wheel see]

what I heard in talking with the Pioneer rep is that it will work with any IP Bus head unit...

~wC

[tarafsu]

did he know the DATE for which it is to come out?

March __?

[live2sk8]

Originally posted by wheel see
what I heard in talking with the Pioneer rep is that it will work with any IP Bus head unit...

~wC Well in that case, it sounds like a P3700MP + the IP-Bus adapter would get you out the door for around $250, $50 less than Alpine's current low-end setup. I'll definitely be interested to hear some opinions once this thing is out.

[rsarabi]

Any indication that this thing will be 3G compatible?

[ArchieGates]

It's pretty silly to think that any Pioneer solution is going to solve the 255 barrier. Alpine's second generation units that are just coming out (1 in March, 1 in June) still have the same problem. It's highly unlikely that Alpine simply ignored this problem and chose not to fix it, while Pioneer stumbled onto some magical solution that none of the engineers at any other company could figure out.

The 255 thing has to be a iPod interface limitation.

[TheBum]

Originally posted by ArchieGates
The 255 thing has to be a iPod interface limitation.

I read somewhere that the Alpine tech support told someone that the limitation is with the AiNet bus. It seems a reasonable assertion to me. Redesigning the bus would likely force Alpine to come out with new versions of every AiNet device. Since only the iPod solution has problems with it, I doubt that redesigning the bus is a very high priority for Alpine.

[live2sk8]

Originally posted by rsarabi
Any indication that this thing will be 3G compatible? Why wouldn't they be? I'd assume it would work with any Dock-connector iPod (IE 3G or 4G).

[tarafsu]

This site has it available on 3/5!! AND it's less than $100!


HERE! (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=702)

[shogun77]

Originally posted by tarafsu
This site has it available on 3/5!! AND it's less than $100!


HERE! (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=702)

That's 3/2005

[mcubed45]

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=14510

looks like people already bought some from here...

anyone here buy one yet?

[ihaveanipod]

I saw that site too and emailed them to find out if they actually have them instock and havent gotten a response.

Can someone tell me what exactly a ip-bus is? Will my deh-p3600 work?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4039_49927926,00.html

thanks

[mikebober]

ip-bus is pioneer's way of communicating with other components. Such as XM receivers, cd changers, and in this case the ipod adaptor. Yes your model will work with it. All "XM Ready" Pioneer units will work.

[tarafsu]

i wish someone had one so we could know some info about it. i'm so interested in seeing what it is like and what problems it has.

if anyone has played with it, do you know of any song barriers? hows the interface?

[jiMMy_ipod]

Currently waiting to get one as well. it will be installed asap to see functionality. jiMMy

[tarafsu]

awesome! i just wish they knew an approximate date -- not just MARCH 2005! woohoo! :o)

[WhatTheSchmidt]

jimmy, where did u order it from?

[jiMMy_ipod]

i didnt. but im going to goto best buy and see if they can hok me up asap. jiMMy

[pjnofrills]

Does anyone have any more info about this, or has anyone managed to purchase one and try it out?? This is going to be the route I go to hook into my car, so I am really interested to see some reviews of it..

[tarafsu]

i think that's what everyone is waiting for. it seems pioneer wont release an exact date so it has everyone wondering... sucks but it should be out sometime soon. (hopefully)

[pjnofrills]

I chatted with someone from Crutchfield, so I would go by their ship date..

"it is not currenly available online ... but you can easily enter the part number on your online checkout ...

The part number is 130CDIB100 ($119.99) and due in on the 28th of this Month. "

So I'm going with the 28th as the release date.. I wanted to make sure that the CD Player I'm planning on buying will do everything (charge, display text, and change tracks) and he says it will..

{PJ} Pioneer's website says it's compatible with the DEH-P3700MP.. But I want to make sure that it will charge the ipod, display the text and let me control the ipod with the CD player controls.
{Jerry} Cool. Let me pull that receiver up ... One moment.
{Jerry} Awesome! It will control the IPOD, display the text, and charge as well. All of it!

So I think I'm going to get that deck, which is $150, and wait for the adapter from Crutchfield (free shipping + tax for me).. They are my favorite to deal with, plus I like their referral program..

[the4starish]

I spoke to someone at best buy here in San Diego, and they dont have any instock yet nor do they have any coming in yet. however, they were able to pull it up in their systems meaning that it will soon be added to their inventory. The price theyre gonna have it for was 119.99. They said you should be able to do a "customer fullfillment" which means they backorder it for you or something, but i dont think theres a shipping charge for that service. I got a Pioneer Premier DEH-P760MP instead of an Alpine just so I wouldnt have the song limit, hoping it works better than the alpine 420. If you Froogle the cd-ib100, i saw it for as low as like $89 and like $10 for shipping.

[bodog2886]

Boo to pioneer for not making these compatible with the previous generation of HU's. My DEH-P3600 is 6 months old and here I am aced out. Otherwise I'd be all over this thing.

EDIT: While not listed as compatible on the manual, someone earlier on here said that a DEH-P3600 would would be compatible...while I know my unit has an IP bus port, is there a definititive ruling on whether or not the iPod adapter would work with my unit?

[the4starish]

From Pioneer's Website
Through Pioneer’s IP-Bus system, the CD-IB100 is backwards compatible with more than 3 million Pioneer car stereos sold during the past several years.
I know its not definate, but its close.

[tarafsu]

it looks pretty sweet on crutchfield. 3/28, i can't wait! especially to hear some reviews :o)

[zoofer]

I sent pioneer an email regarding compatibility w/non-listed models:

Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if the CD-IB100 ipod interface will work with my DEH-7400MP head unit. It has an IP-bus, but is not listed as 'Ipod adapter ready'. What would be the functionality (what would it display, would I be able to control the IPod, etc.)

Thanks.

Reply:

Yes, the DEH-P7400MP Ip Bus input will work with Pioneer CD-IB100 Ipod-to IpBus adaptor, and, it will be able to control the I-Pod and display all the info from the I-pod .

I sent a reply asking why it wasn't listed in the manual. I'll let you know when I get answered.

[THX]

sweet! thanks for the heads up. Can you give us the email you used, I'd like to ask some questions myself.

[zoofer]

Here it is.

poccs@pioneer-usa.com

[Sundi]

I'm thinking of getting this adaptor as well as the P6700 model it just seems much better value for money than Alpines version of it. Does anyone know how to actually install the adaptor? In the link to the pioneer's manual it states that the adapter needs to be directly connected to the cars power source, The alpine adaptor doesn't seem to need this so it just seems its easier to install.

[podjunkie]

Sounds like the Pioneer CD-IB100 should be shipping later this month to dealers.

It works with most Pioneer's with a "P" in the model number, like "DEH-P3600". Sounds like theres a few cassette models, and some really old models, that it doesn't work with, but most everything else is OK.

It does NOT have the 255 song problem, thats an Alpine AI-bus issue.

[shogun77]

The CD-IB100 is still not listed on the main US Pioneer site but I found this at their parts store:
http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=CD%2DIB100

I hope that E.T.A. is just when their store gets it in. If not..... :mad:

[tarafsu]

i just checked crutchfield again and it also says: Expected: 4/15/2005

bah, whatever. they need to get on the ball.

[muohio]

This looks just like any of their other IP-Bus add-ons. You simply plug this into the back on the headunit and then connect the yellow power lead and then the black lead is grounded to the car. I would venture to say that this works with any head unit that has an IP-Bus connector. When the XM radio unit came out, it only specified a couple models, but it even worked with my HU that had a P-Bus connection (old name for IP-Bus).

[Iceman12321]

do we know how easy/hard it is going to be to search? I havent heard many good things when searching for songs on the Alpine decks. any ideas?

[shogun77]

Finally found it on their main site under the Navigation section.:rolleyes:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_2007714_192089315,00.html

[txpunk]

Does anyone know what comes in the package? It looks like it has the cord going to the iPod, but does it come with the IP-Bus cord going to the changer port on the HU?

[tarafsu]

i can't believe they keep pushing back the release date. its just not fair!!

[motogirl927]

I am on edge here waiting for this interface to come out. I bought my DEH-P7700(which is totally awesome) last weekend thinking that I can pick this up soon but from the looks of it, I will have to wait a few more weeks. This totally sucks!!! I hope that they don't change the release date again.

[the4starish]

Yeah that whole pushing back the release date, not cool for those of us who just purchased a pioneer deck and are waiting for the adapter to install it so we can do it all at once. Not cool I tell you!

[alcohol316]

So anyone know if it still has the 255 barrier?? I'm thinking about buying it too but if the 255 limitation is still there I'll probably wait until they fix it.

[tarafsu]

it will have to be released and tried before anyone knows that info! we are all in waiting ... welcome to the club :o)

[ProphetSix]

OK, I know this hasn't been released yet, but I'm hoping someone might have some basic info on this. I checked the Pioneer site, and didn't see the info I'm after.

I'm going to replace the stock head unit in my vehicle with a Pioneer DEH-P8600MP and (hopefully) a CD-IB100 interface. I have a couple of questions on the interface though.

1) Will the CD-IB100 power the iPod on and off with the radio? I assume it will, but sometimes engineers miss the point.

2) Charging: will it charge the iPod when active?

3) Satalite radio: will I loose the ability to use satalite radio interfaces with the CD-IB100 on-board? Or is there a pas-through connector, maybe to daisychain them?

I know some of this won't get answered til after it's released, but looking for pre-release info anyways. Thanks!

[shogun77]

Originally posted by ProphetSix
OK, I know this hasn't been released yet, but I'm hoping someone might have some basic info on this. I checked the Pioneer site, and didn't see the info I'm after.

I'm going to replace the stock head unit in my vehicle with a Pioneer DEH-P8600MP and (hopefully) a CD-IB100 interface. I have a couple of questions on the interface though.

1) Will the CD-IB100 power the iPod on and off with the radio? I assume it will, but sometimes engineers miss the point.

2) Charging: will it charge the iPod when active?

3) Satalite radio: will I loose the ability to use satalite radio interfaces with the CD-IB100 on-board? Or is there a pas-through connector, maybe to daisychain them?

I know some of this won't get answered til after it's released, but looking for pre-release info anyways. Thanks!

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes there is a pass-through

[ProphetSix]

Thanks for the fast response! Now to go blow a wad of cash. Much needed, but damned expensive.

[mdiack]

Will the Pioneer AVIC-N1 also control the iPod? Is it as simple as hooking up to the IP-Bus? Right now I use the SIk,imp and a monster line in to RCA out to hook up via AV Input on the navigational brain unit.

[the4starish]

wait, just to reiterate, when i turn the car on, the ipod will resume play, and when i turn the car off, the ipod will pause and shut off? If so, sweet, if not, damn.

[tarafsu]

check it out (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=702)

i found another site that is selling it cheaper than crutchfield and their date says:

"The CD-IB100 is is not currently in stock. The expected ship date has been moved to April 7, 2005. "

almost!!

[shogun77]

Originally posted by tarafsu
check it out (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=702)

i found another site that is selling it cheaper than crutchfield and their date says:

"The CD-IB100 is is not currently in stock. The expected ship date has been moved to April 7, 2005. "

almost!!


LOL. Another? That's the same site you linked to on the 2nd page.

[tarafsu]

oops, thought i posted cardomain.com, wrong one. :o) my bad.

[sundevil]

Originally posted by tarafsu
check it out (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=702)

i found another site that is selling it cheaper than crutchfield and their date says:

"The CD-IB100 is is not currently in stock. The expected ship date has been moved to April 7, 2005. "

almost!!


You can almost always find discount codes for Crutchfield though. I just got the Kenwood Ipod controller for $20 off and free shipping from Crutchfield. You can also return stuff easily to them if it doesn't work out.

[tarafsu]

where do you find discount codes?

[sundevil]

Originally posted by tarafsu
where do you find discount codes?

Look for Crutchfield at dealcoupon.com

I used the free shipping link then put in the code for $20 off $100.

[ihaveanipod]

I wondering again whether or not my deh-p3600 will work because on cardomains site it lists the compatibable headunits that are “iPod Adapter Ready” and the p3600 isn't listed.
http://www.cardomain.com/item/PIOCDIB100

Also on pioneers site towards the bottom it says

Compatibility
For use with Pioneer “iPod® Adapter Ready” Headunits and AV Receivers. Compatible models include:
• AVIC-N2, AVIC-D1, AVH-P7500DVD, AVH-P6600DVD, AVH-P5700DVD, DVH-P5000MP
• DEH-P9600MP, DEH-P8600MP, DEH-P80MP, DEH-P7700MP, DEH-P6700MP, DEH-P4700MP, DEH-P3700MP, FH-P5000MP, FH-P4200MP, DEH-P77DH, DEH-P47DH
• DEX-P9, DEH-P960MP, DEH-P860MP, DEH-P8MP, DEH-P770MP, DEH-P670MP, and DEH-P470MP
• “External Unit” Compatibility with many additional Pioneer Headunit and AV Receiver models.

Compatible with iPod models featuring Dock Connector

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_2007714_192089315,00.html

Note how the deh-p3600 isn't listed along with the other 3 million devices pioneer says that this would be backwords compatible with. But it says "external Unit" compatibility with many additional pioneer headunits.

Maybe these are the models with the CD-IB100 built in and already ready? Anyone else have any idea what it could mean? And could someone confirm that my deh-p600 will work?

[pjnofrills]

Crutchfield gives you $20 off if you use Mastercard.

http://www.mastercard.com/us/specialoffers/savings_discounts/crutchfield.html

Usually free shipping too, you can probably find a code on couponcabin.com or something similar.

[signalguy]

Good news for the ones that ordered from crutchfield, i just got a call from them today saying i should be receiving my CD-IB100 in the mail by early next week.

[tarafsu]

awesome!!! just let us know how good it is when you get it all hooked up! :o) thanks!

[the4starish]

I just got off the phone with a customer service rep at crutchfield and mine will be shipping out tommorow. Also, for those of you who havent placed an order, it is no longer on back order. It is IN STOCK and Ready to Ship!

[tarafsu]

thanks for letting us know. i'm going to order as soon as i get some feedback about it because i just want to make sure it is worth the money and its better than alpines kca-i120

[the4starish]

Correction, I just checked back and heres the order status:

From Crutchfield:
Order Date: 3/31/2005 5:39:00 PM
Details: Items have shipped.
Ship Date: Mar 31 2005 7:05:00:000PM


ITEMS HAVE BEEN SHIPPED! Top it off, I just placed my order today! Plus I used the free shipping discount AND I got the $20 off for order over $100. Sweeeeeet! $99 out the door!

[pjnofrills]

Here's a link to the item on crutchfield.com

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KECJRPTE9e1/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=227550&I=130CDIB100

There are some good pictures, but I wish they showed the scrolling song title on the deck. Whatever.

But this should answer some questions:

"The CD-IB100 iPod interface adapter allows you to control an iPod directly from your compatible Pioneer receiver (2005 and newer, with a "P" in the model number)."

If anyone is thinking about getting this and a new pioneer deck, PM me for a $20 off code (on top of the mastercard discount)

[UncleGene]

just to make sure... this adapter works for mini's too right? None of the websites say anything about working for the minis!!

im new to the board btw, hey :cool:

[signalguy]

It should, pioneer says it will work with any dock connector iPod.

[d3vilz]

I just picked up the CD-IB100 from a local pioneer dealer, first one they got.

I will be installing it into my new deh-p8mp on 4/5.. Can't wait to get it working, I will post my finds then.

[naednek]

best buy has it as well. I'm eagerly waiting to see how this works. I walked by a display and noticed an alpine one. I so wanted this for my car. so I went back and asked them what I needed for my pioneer and they have it. But I didn't buy it, because I could probably find it online for cheaper and I wanted to read up on it.

[JamieW]

Originally posted by pjnofrills

"The CD-IB100 iPod interface adapter allows you to control an iPod directly from your compatible Pioneer receiver (2005 and newer, with a "P" in the model number)."

[/B]

So what would the advantage of this device be for older units without a P in the model number?

It would be a lot cheaper to get a line out and an IP Bus thing.

[signalguy]

From what I gather if you dont have a 2005 HU then the adapter basically works like an auxiliary input.

[ihaveanipod]

From what I gather if you dont have a 2005 HU then the adapter basically works like an auxiliary input.

So if I don't buy the brand new ####tty models then it will only work like the CD-RB10? Thats stupid. Pioneer could just as easily made this thing backwards compatible with ATLEAST last years models.

Ha, oh wait - they do. They alow this thing to work with the DEH-P8600MP. The high end $600 head unit a working teenager can't afford. Thanks pioneer. That's nice. They also allow it to work with the DVH-P5000MP - a $700 head unit which is TWO years old. TWO. I'm glad they're treating their high end market nicely, and leaving me with nothing.

Seems like I'll have to upgrade just to use ONE new feature. Thanks Pioneer, excellent job treating your customers. Wait, ####, you just lost one.

[tarafsu]

it works with the 6700mp, and the unit is only $219.
that's not bad at all. and the unit has gotten all 5's on crutchfield. It also works with the 7700. come on, don't be so negative.

[ihaveanipod]

Thats not the point at all. I know it works with the new models and I'm sure theyre nice. But I dont want a new model and I don't need one. All I want is for pioneer to make this thing backwards adaptable. But they are forcing you to upgrade to use the ipod feature.

I don't blame em' though, kind've reminds me of another company... apple.

[hongchoi]

What?? Companies want you to buy new products from them?? What?? They're after your money?? Get out!

Come on, this is nothing new....it happens everywhere...don't gripe...just don't buy...

..but on the topic of compatibility, I read somewhere that it's compatible with most IP bus Pioneer head units. IP bus has been around for a while...your deck might be compatible. I'd call Pioneer and find out...they're actually pretty good about making things backwards compatible. I know when they made their decks XM compatibel, a lot of older IP bus decks worked too.

[K4LK]

I recently upgraded my head unit to the 2005 model DEH-P770MP. On the IP Bus I have the XM tuner, Sirius tuner, iPod adapter and auxiliary adapter.

This BRAND NEW head-unit treats the Sirius tuner and iPod adapter like an External Unit!! Last time I checked, External Unit capabiliity is used for compatibility with FUTURE products (not those that were designed at the same time).

Let me tell you. The Sirius and iPod user interface is God awful. I'll stick with the iPod adapter during my rant. You get to see only 8 characters at a time. Ever-scrolling is apparently not supported. You have to use function 3 to initiate a single scroll. The band button selects the item to be browsed (playlist, genre, artist, album). For example, select artist. It begins playing the first artist it sees. If you have more than one album for that artist, hit BAND to browse albums. It will allow you to select albums in that artist. If you want to change artist you have to hit BAND again to browse other artists. Here's the awful part: it goes back to the top of each list each time you hit BAND. For example, I selected Ozzy Osbourne with ARTIST browsing, then ALBUM to select "Prince of Darkness". I then decided I had enough and wanted Judas Priest. Hit BAND to go back to ARTIST and it resets the browser to .38 Special!! I might also mention that you push the multi-control up and down to browse the current list and it is really slow. As soon as you select the next item there is a pause while it searches, loads and begins playing. This browse method might be okay for small music libraries but I have an iPod photo with 10,000 songs.

Sorry for the long post. I sent Pioneer a nasty email for implementing such an awful user interface. I am really ####ed and am strongly considering returning it and the new head-unit. I think my DEH-P760MP (2004 model) will support the Sirius tuner.

If I can answer any questions, then please fire away. I created a operating matrix for my system because it's so complicated to use.

Dana

[tarafsu]

well, great. now i'm ####ed. i've been waiting for this stupid thing to come out and now i hear it sucks. sad day!

[punkt71]

I have a Pioneer AVIC-N1 and just installed my iPod adapter last night. IT SUCKS. It totally locks out the touchwheel/ipod display interface, and you have to rely on the head unit to control it. The N1 is a touchpanel, and still only shows 8 characters and is S-L-O-W. The sound quality is great though.. I would be 10,000,000 times happier if I could use the iPod interface along with the head unit interface. This is crap, I will stick to the headphone -> RCA audio in setup I had before. I bought an iPod Photo for the album art to be seen all the time and the color display, and all it does is sit there with an ugly black PIONEER logo on the screen and you cant do SH*T. Lame. Im sending it back to Crutchfield.

[hongchoi]

I've now used the alpine kca-420i, kenwood kca-ip500, and the pioneer cd-ib100.

They are all clunky.

Do not buy any of these if you think you're getting sound quality+user friendlyness

DO buy these for sound quality however.

Just goes to show you how bad things are when they're "after-thoughts."

I still think the only great hard drive system built for cars is the kenwood music keg (or any phatnoise system)

[the4starish]

Well I got the adapter today, havent installed it. Apparently its not that great and does not have full compatability with 04 and before models? Before I return it, I want to make sure that these are only a few peoples opinions who had their hopes set too high. I understand that these things arent perfect, but I just hope its not all that bad as people are making it out to be.

[skorpiond]

Originally posted by punkt71
I have a Pioneer AVIC-N1 and just installed my iPod adapter last night. IT SUCKS. It totally locks out the touchwheel/ipod display interface, and you have to rely on the head unit to control it. The N1 is a touchpanel, and still only shows 8 characters and is S-L-O-W. The sound quality is great though.. I would be 10,000,000 times happier if I could use the iPod interface along with the head unit interface. This is crap, I will stick to the headphone -> RCA audio in setup I had before. I bought an iPod Photo for the album art to be seen all the time and the color display, and all it does is sit there with an ugly black PIONEER logo on the screen and you cant do SH*T. Lame. Im sending it back to Crutchfield.

You've got to be kidding me... I also have an avic-n1 and I've been waiting so long for this unit and now I hear that it sucks... damn!

Quick question though, your only concern is the fact that you can't control it from the ipod's touch panel? what if I didnt have to/want to touch the ipod since I will install it in my glove compartment? would i be happy with everything else?

Thanks,

Dannye

[justinbaker]

Originally posted by skorpiond
You've got to be kidding me... I also have an avic-n1 and I've been waiting so long for this unit and now I hear that it sucks... damn!

Quick question though, your only concern is the fact that you can't control it from the ipod's touch panel? what if I didnt have to/want to touch the ipod since I will install it in my glove compartment? would i be happy with everything else?

Thanks,

Dannye

so open it carefully and install it real fast, then you ccan give us another opinion

[punkt71]

Dude theres no way anyone could be happy with this unit unless they are EXTREMELY patient. There is definetely no way to quickly pick a song/album/artist without spending a few frustrating minutes pressing a button changing one-by-one with a 2 second gap in between... screw that. The reason Apple put a touchwheel on the ipod is because it would take forever to browse hundreds/thousands of songs. If you just want to pick a playlist and let it play through (and only see 8 characters of text) then thats what you will get. Other than that, Pioneer should let you use the iPod interface in conjunction with the head Units for this very reason.. hell, Dension's IceLink does dual screen/interfaces on their units! Im ####ed because I have been waiting for this for a long time. I sent Pioneer an email and am awaiting a response, as soon as I hear something I will let you guys know..!

[THX]

what a fvcking let down. Thanks for the reviews all, looks I'll be sticking with my Alpine setup until something better arrives.

[signalguy]

Just installed mine today and I'd have to say I agree with the previous comments, very poor implementation on pioneers part, I cant even get my HU to display the song info even though i have a 2005 compatible HU.

[signalguy]

Heres an example...
http://webpages.charter.net/crosscountry/DSC00201.JPG

Even though pioneer clearly states you can view artist, album, and track info on my HU, I have yet been able to do that.

[skahtul]

Well, I'm new around here, but in light of the recent posts I thought I would contribute. I have a brand new Pioneer DEH-P960MP and just got the CD-IB100 in the mail today. I will update once I get it installed but I hope to prove these other people wrong!

[ihaveanipod]

to those who have the units and are reviewing them - does this adapter have the 250 song barrier (whatever it is) or any limit on the amount of songs?

[the4starish]

Damn, this is THE biggest Bag over the head punch in the face, knee in the groin ever! SOB! I think im just going to go with the RCA to IP-BUS. Any one have anything positive to say yet?

[benraphael]

How long does it take to a) switch songs (forward or backward to next or previous track) and b) to switch between playlists?
Thanks!

[rdsesq]

Getting ready to connect the IB100 to my avhP7500 HU.

Quick question. I have an ipod photo. It sounds like you can't display alum art through the IB100.

Does anybody know if the headphone jack still works if you are connected to the IB100. If so, then I should be able to get the headphone av cable an just plug the video into another composite video input on the head unit and use that as the background display. Just like using a DVD source even though the CD Changer is playing.

So if you are connected to the IB100 does it disable the headphone jack?

[signalguy]

Yes once connected the iPod just sits there with a Pioneer logo on it.

[K4LK]

Originally posted by signalguy
Heres an example...
http://webpages.charter.net/crosscountry/DSC00201.JPG

Even though pioneer clearly states you can view artist, album, and track info on my HU, I have yet been able to do that.

On my DEH-P770MP (2005 model) you go to FUNCT(3) and momentarily press the multi-control to cycle through the choices in display. You're supposed to be able to press and hold the multi-control to scroll but the display scrolls once not continuously like the Sirius tuner which is also treated like an external unit.

[K4LK]

Here's another problem with the ipod adapter. I turn off the 2005 model head-unit then disconnect the iPod. The adapter leaves the iPod in pause, but I don't know what else it has done because the iPod never shuts-off like it is supposed to 2 minutes after last activity. I discovered this yesterday. Three hours later I noticed my iPod was still on with the backlight and about 25% battery charge remaining. Make sure you manually turn off your iPod after using the adapter. I haven't left it connected in the car to see what happens. I know the iPod is not charged after the vehicle ignition is turned-off.

[K4LK]

One more thing: The adapter enables REPEAT ALL on your iPod as soon as it's connected. If you inadvertently set REPEAT TRACK on your head unit, you'll never be able to leave the currently playing track with the head-unit's track skip controls.

Honestly, I've never seen a worse user implementation in my life. What are these Japanese engineers thinking? They're out of touch with reality. That's for sure!

[iriedog]

&^$%$%^&^!
I just installed a new P6700 on Monday, leaving my dash apart so I can plug in the IB100 on Friday when it arrives. I saw several of the reviews on the Crutchfield site and imediatly popped over here to get the skinny. I see they posted here as well.
I am NOT a happy camper hearing this krap. I have been putting off buing a HU just for this interface.

I think the main reason is the touchwheel being disabled. That will be the deal breaker. I guess I will plug it in and F with it for a while and send it back on Monday.

Think I will do the CDRB10 and a belkin dock/RCA kit.

Did anyone at the F'in factory even try to use this unit????

(not) irie

[K4LK]

Originally posted by iriedog
&^$%$%^&^!
I just installed a new P6700 on Monday, leaving my dash apart so I can plug in the IB100 on Friday when it arrives. I saw several of the reviews on the Crutchfield site and imediatly popped over here to get the skinny. I see they posted here as well.
I am NOT a happy camper hearing this krap. I have been putting off buing a HU just for this interface.

I think the main reason is the touchwheel being disabled. That will be the deal breaker. I guess I will plug it in and F with it for a while and send it back on Monday.

Think I will do the CDRB10 and a belkin dock/RCA kit.

Did anyone at the F'in factory even try to use this unit????

(not) irie

Apparently the new Pioneer AVH-P5700DVD in-dash head-unit with LCD screen is the only one that fully supports the new Sirius tuner and iPod adapter. All other new models treat them like external units. And external unit capability is present to support future products. Geez, Pioneer! My DEH-P770MP, the Sirius tuner and the iPod adapter were designed at the same time!

[K4LK]

Here are my criticisms with this adapter:

My head unit 2005 model DEH-P770MP has a four-line display, yet it devotes only 8 characters on the last line to display info.

The DISPlay function on my HU is not implemented. Neither is the new LIST function

I have to go into FUNC(3) to switch the display. Not very easy while driving.

Ever-scroll doesn't work.

While browsing through playlists, albums, songs, or artists, I've noticed that as soon as I hit a new item, the adapter initiates play immediately. If I'm scrolling through the list, there is a considerable time lag if a particular sub-list has many items. The adapter should wait 2 seconds after the user stops scrolling the list before initiating playback.

When switching the browser between lists (playlists, albums, songs, or artists), upon entry into a particular list, the pointer resets itself to the top of the list. For example, I'm browsing an artist in the "K" part of the alphabet. I have 6 albums by that artist and want to hear the 4th. I then go browse by Album. The first is pre-selected and play immediately begins. I select the 4th and play it. Then I decide I want to listen to an artist in the "J" part of the alphabet. Switching the browser back to Artist (by repeatedly pressing "BAND") automatically selects the first artist alphabetically and immediately initiates play. I must again scroll through 10 letters of the alphabet to get to the "J"s again.

It is obvious to me that the engineers who designed this interface did not try it with an iPod that has more than a few songs. If they had, the user interface would not be so atrocious! I have an iPod photo with 10,000 songs on it.

Dana

[jiMMy_ipod]

WELL POOP. now im hesitant to buy as well. i hope best buy has a display set up soon so i can play with it there. otherwise it will be ipbus to rca jacks to mini jack to my ipod and ill forgo the charging aspect fo rthe time being. jiMMy

[airshark]

Well.....I figured that the reviews on this site and on crutchfield.com were just maybe a few disgruntled people.

Boy was I wrong. Very, Very WRONG.

I just installed the CD-IB100 adapter with my Pioneer DEH-P7400MP. I played with it for almost an hour trying to convince myself that it would be allright to keep. In the end, this thing just sucks. It is S-L-O-W, non-intuitive and VERY cumbersome. In short, I feel like a beta tester for an upcoming product rather than and end-user who purchased a market-ready product.

DO NOT BUY THE CD-IB100!!!!!!!

The adapter is now in a return box to Crutchfield and I'll be looking elsewhere for another solution I guess.

To those who are as I was regarding the reviews: EVERY SINGLE WORD OF EACH NEGATIVE REVIEW WAS 100% ACCURATE. You WILL NOT be happy when you get it and just "try it out."

"Bad Pioneer! Go to your room!"

[audioscience]

Wow that really sucks about the Pioneer solution. Too bad it seems like it was an after thought.

Sounds like Alpine is the best head unit/iPod interface out there. I'm glad I was loyal to Alpine!

[rdsesq]

Given the bad reviews I am seeing,
has anybody tried the IceLink plus interface kit a Pioneer headunit?

[wvuvw]

You know...I may be literally the only one...but I like it.

I don't love it to death, but I don't regret the purchase...and I get buyer's remorse pretty easily.

The difference between me any everyone else that complains is that I didn't have any illusions before I bought it that it would be a sleek interface. I knew it would allow a stealth installation with great sound quality, and I knew it would be at the expense of the perfect interface (the click wheel).

The only real complaint I have—the only thing that seriously holds it back frombeing as good as it could reasonably be expected to be—is that it tries to instantaneously play the next song as you scroll artist, genre, or album. If it would delay for just a few, it would allow for scrolling as fast as you could press the button (or you could hold it down for fast scrolls). But even that would be too slow for some of you that expect something like the scroll wheel. What do you expect from a car stereo interface? It's doing the best it can with a library many times larger than it was meant to handle.

If I want to hear a particular song right now and the iPod is hooked up to the car, I'm SOL. But I can get to it decently fast by filtering by genre first. I may do some creative thinking on my playlist strategy to make some of my favorite music easier to get to. Proper playlisting could definitely make an interface like this one a lot smoother. It just takes a little investment of time.

To the people above who don't know how to get it to show song text (on a 7700, no less!!), and the people who don't realize that you can narrow down the artist list by selecting Genre first...I have four letters for you: RTFM!

And to the people posting bad information about HU compatibility, I would like to point out that my 2004 DEH-P4600MP supports this adapter in exactly the same way as all the new ones. Every bit of functionality listed in the manual for the x700 units is precisely the same on mine. The 4600 is not listed in the manual, but works just like this year's models. I can even do the search enhancements mentioned above (filtering through Genre). So to the guy above said that people with models older than '05 are SOL, you're wrong. Period. Research before you spout gospel.

[madmanav6]

Ive got an AVH-p6400cd it is xm ready, and also has the ipbus conector.... I bought the cd-ib100 today from bestbuy... and the ####### isnt working.... it displays a few characters but thats it.... it doesnt play the music... and all it does is say ipod and keeps scrolling numbers like its counting... maybe its defective.... maybe im doing something wrong... who know? but I am very let down.... I saw my buddy with an alpine unit, and his is so much better..... damn pioneer... you guys really let me down...
PS: if anyone is having similar probs... let me know!

[K4LK]

Originally posted by madmanav6
Ive got an AVH-p6400cd it is xm ready, and also has the ipbus conector.... I bought the cd-ib100 today from bestbuy... and the ####### isnt working.... it displays a few characters but thats it.... it doesnt play the music... and all it does is say ipod and keeps scrolling numbers like its counting... maybe its defective.... maybe im doing something wrong... who know? but I am very let down.... I saw my buddy with an alpine unit, and his is so much better..... damn pioneer... you guys really let me down...
PS: if anyone is having similar probs... let me know!

The counting your seeing "iPod0026" is the playing time. Go into FUNCTION #3 to change the display among playing time, album, artist, song title, track repeat selection and random play selection. Check the manual for the correct order. The sound quality of the adapter is excellent. Don't know why you're not hearing anything.

[madmanav6]

turned out that my ip bus cable was connected to the wrong slot on the unit.... plugged it into the purple (ip bus in) slot, when I need to plug it into the black (ip bus out) slot....
Silly mistake

[K4LK]

Originally posted by wvuvw
You know...I may be literally the only one...but I like it.

I don't love it to death, but I don't regret the purchase...and I get buyer's remorse pretty easily.

The difference between me any everyone else that complains is that I didn't have any illusions before I bought it that it would be a sleek interface. I knew it would allow a stealth installation with great sound quality, and I knew it would be at the expense of the perfect interface (the click wheel).

The only real complaint I have—the only thing that seriously holds it back frombeing as good as it could reasonably be expected to be—is that it tries to instantaneously play the next song as you scroll artist, genre, or album. If it would delay for just a few, it would allow for scrolling as fast as you could press the button (or you could hold it down for fast scrolls). But even that would be too slow for some of you that expect something like the scroll wheel. What do you expect from a car stereo interface? It's doing the best it can with a library many times larger than it was meant to handle.

If I want to hear a particular song right now and the iPod is hooked up to the car, I'm SOL. But I can get to it decently fast by filtering by genre first. I may do some creative thinking on my playlist strategy to make some of my favorite music easier to get to. Proper playlisting could definitely make an interface like this one a lot smoother. It just takes a little investment of time.

To the people above who don't know how to get it to show song text (on a 7700, no less!!), and the people who don't realize that you can narrow down the artist list by selecting Genre first...I have four letters for you: RTFM!

.

Its desire to initiate play immediately after you pause browsing through a list is a big problem with even average-sized music libraries. It needs to wait 2 seconds.

They could have designed my new 2005-model Premier head-unit (that was designed at the same time as the iPod adapter and Sirius tuner) to include support for them instead of being dumb and treating them like external units with limited display capability. At least the HU ever-scrolls the info from the Sirius tuner. Not so with the iPod adapter.

One more thing. When you enter a list to browse, it always starts at the top (first item) of the list. This may be more tolerable with small music libraries.

I guess what surprises me the most is that Pioneer (a company who I respect and whom I've purchased many of their products over the years) could release products so user unfriendly.

[rdsesq]

Anybody ever check to see if the headphone output is disabled when the IPOD is connected the IB100?

And if it is not disabled, does the video output from that jack, mimic the IPOD screen or will it play the normal (non-IB100 connected) output that it normally would?

[humanity]

from what im reading its sounding more and more like i should save my money and just get a HU with an aux in and forget running my ipod from the HU. Is the aux in sound quality just as good as the ipod controlled HUs?

[airshark]

yes it is

[jiMMy_ipod]

Originally posted by humanity
from what im reading its sounding more and more like i should save my money and just get a HU with an aux in and forget running my ipod from the HU. Is the aux in sound quality just as good as the ipod controlled HUs?
i am going this route now too because of the bad reviews.
buy.com has the ipbus cable to rca jacks for 10 bucks right now. i got mine on friday! didnt wook it up yet though. .

jiMMy

[DamingR]

Guys, I'm not sure that it's as bad as the reviews here.

I bought this thing knowing ahead of time that it wasn't going to be perfect. I made smart playlists that suited my moods and music. Now, I just select the playlist I want, leave it on shuffle, and enjoy. If you take some time playing with all the options smart playlists give you, you can make this thing work pretty well.

Is it easy to find a specific song? No. Can you use playlists to help? Yes.

That being said, the sound quality is absolutely fantastic. Plus, I have not experienced any problems with it whatsoever, unlike many reviews of the Alpine unit, which has caused some iPods to lock up, etc.

I think that it's a pretty good deal for $100. Sound quality is great. You can hide the iPod really easily, and never touch the thing.

There are serious limitations with the serial connection. I don't think we are going to see the solution we desire until Apple makes a more robust two-way connection option. Based on the popularity of such products, I would expect this kind of thing to show up sooner than later.

[DanDigital]

I agree with DamingR...

I have the unit hooked up to a 7700MP head unit, and while the controls are nowhere near as good as the iPod itself, it certainly isn't as bad as everyone here has made it sound.

The real problem is, the iPod controls are so great that anything else seems horrible by comparison. Personally, I would rather have the iPod controls integrated into the head unit, but that is not possible at this point in the technology, unless of course you are willing to shell out over a grand for Clarion's DVD unit.

It really isn't all that bad. I wish the head unit displayed the full titles of the song instead of just eight characters, and I wish that the searching was less clunky, but when compared with the FM transmitter route, or the modulator route, it sounds and integrates a whole hell of a lot better.

Dan

[d3vilz]

Originally posted by DamingR
Guys, I'm not sure that it's as bad as the reviews here.

I bought this thing knowing ahead of time that it wasn't going to be perfect. I made smart playlists that suited my moods and music. Now, I just select the playlist I want, leave it on shuffle, and enjoy. If you take some time playing with all the options smart playlists give you, you can make this thing work pretty well.

Is it easy to find a specific song? No. Can you use playlists to help? Yes.

That being said, the sound quality is absolutely fantastic. Plus, I have not experienced any problems with it whatsoever, unlike many reviews of the Alpine unit, which has caused some iPods to lock up, etc.

I think that it's a pretty good deal for $100. Sound quality is great. You can hide the iPod really easily, and never touch the thing.

There are serious limitations with the serial connection. I don't think we are going to see the solution we desire until Apple makes a more robust two-way connection option. Based on the popularity of such products, I would expect this kind of thing to show up sooner than later.

I feel the same way! Works great for me with a smart playlist and the sound quality cant get any better..

[airshark]

Well, we all have our opinions.

I personally don't use playlists at all except for listening to podcasts.

For me, the delay between switching songs is horrible.
Also, the fact that every song you move to instantly starts playing without letting you browse is annoying.

So:

* Yes, the sound quality is good. I don't think that you'll find anyone who would argue that fact.
* If you don't use playlists and have 6000+ songs (as I do) this is not just an interface that doesn't live up to the native iPod interface, but an interface that I would not tolerate from even the cheapest $20 CD player that could be picked up at a 7-11.
* Regarding the title display information, what is really the point of only displaying 8 characters when the HU clearly has the ability to scroll the title after navigating through Function menus. This makes reading the screen annoying.
* I personally could care less that the ipod interface itself is disabled. If it were enabled, this simply turns the CD-IB100 into an expensive AUX adapter.

To sum it up, I purchased the iPod vent mount from Arkon, the Sik IMP charger/Line out, an IP-BUS AUX adapter and RCA-mini jack adapter from Crutchfield, along with a cigarette lighter adapter from Radioshack.

All of this is mounted INSIDE of the dashboard and the only thing that protrudes is the Sik IMP dock connector from a blank panel in the dash. Overall, it looks VERY clean, all the wiring is concealed, the iPod is literally right next to the HU in my truck and it is hardwired.

Total Cost for sweet AUX setup: $92.42
Cost of the CD-IB100: $119.99

Like I said, we all have our opinions, but myself along with every other friend who tried the CD-IB100 have the same opinion: for the money, unless you have specific user habits with your iPod, it is NOT worth the money.

but......if you like it, more power to you. Pioneer could use some of your help by posting your positive reviews on here and sites like Crutchfield.com

[DanDigital]

Yes, airshark, we like the product so we are just shills for Pioneer

[rolling eyes]

[airshark]

Originally posted by DanDigital
Yes, airshark, we like the product so we are just shills for Pioneer

[rolling eyes]

Man, that's exactly what I said. Maybe if you read my entire post instead of being a d**k, you would see that I made a thoughtful line-item post in response to people who said they like the adapter.

And my comment about posting your positive reviews was not meant to be sarcastic or condescending, I really mean it. Maybe someone will see what you like about it and decide that is how they will use it as well.

[DanDigital]

I thought the last part was meant to make it sound like we were just Pioneer fanboys or something. No offense meant

[Morfious]

Here is my $0.03 to add to the whole mix. I have a DEH-740MP Premiere head unit (2003/04), and have been using the cd-rb10 aux adapter (sound only no charging capabilities) prior to purchasing the cd-ib100. I just got the cd-ib100 adapter today and rigged it up (not a clean install just hook it up as easily as possible to test things out. My dash is still ripped apart and it's past midnight here so I guess I'm driving to work tomorrow with my dash in the back seat!) First off I will say that it hooks up very easy and is 100% compatible with my head unit. Works just like the manual says it will and how I expected it to; I'm able to browse artists, genre, album etc from the head unit. I will also say that browsing is a royal pain in the butt!!

The fact that it starts to play songs immediately is it's downfall. If you could browse to a new song, while it played the orig song that would be a great help, but it doesn't look like you can. that being said you have to use Playlists to get this to work right. I can see how great it would be on random or using a playlist but searching for individual songs is a bit tedious. Even if they incorporated some shortcut method like holding the button down was a quick scroll or something, would help improve things. Or enable the station preset buttons (1-6) as a truncated alphabet 1 = A-E; 2= F-J, 3 = K-O etc. Then you would not have to scroll as far to get where you wanted.

I don't think the product is as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but it's not without its limitations. I think I may keep both untill I decide whick I like better. Hidden in the glove box charging and using playlists/random will use the cd-ipb100. Searching for particular songs/albums will use the dock mounted on my dash along with the cd-rb10 adapter I have. The ip100 has a pass through so both can be hooked up and used at the same time. I'm off to make some more playlists to use in the ride, I think I'm going to like this new toy!

[Marita]

Hi. I just bought my ipod adapter today to go in my deh-p740mp deck. I'm kinda new to this self installation stuff. So, here's what I did:

I connected the power wired from the adapter to the yellow 12V wired from my deck.
I grounded the adapter with the black wire from my deck.
I connected the colors for the ipbus as shown in the manual for the adapter.
I turn on the power in my car, and absolutely nothing happens with my ipod. With the car power on, I switched the ipbus connector to the other port. I hear stuff through my car speakers, but still no working ipod (no power going to the ipod, and no play through my deck).

Help? Thanks.

[champ222]

hi, just joined, i wondered if someone could help me...

can someone tell me how easy it would be to set the ipod to just play random tracks (or shuffle whatever its called) from a pioneer head unit using the CD-IB100?

if its easily done, it might be worth it for me...

Many Thanks

Andy - UK

[DanDigital]

Originally posted by champ222
hi, just joined, i wondered if someone could help me...

can someone tell me how easy it would be to set the ipod to just play random tracks (or shuffle whatever its called) from a pioneer head unit using the CD-IB100?


That's pretty much what it is made for. It is very easy to just play random tracks. Just set the iPod to "shuffle songs," plug it in, and that's basically it.

[BigFatDuck]

is it necessary to set the ipod to shuffle BEFORE plugging it in, or is that something you can set relatively easy using the head unit's controls?

[DanDigital]

Im sure there is a way to have the head unit set the thing to shuffle, but I havent found it yet and it probably involves alot of buttons and knobs and such. Setting it on the iPod before the hookup is probably the easiest way.

[champ222]

is there any operating instructions that come with it that someone could give me a copy of?

[wvuvw]

It's easy to change the shuffle mode from the HU.

On my 4600MP, it goes like this:

Press Function until FUNC 2 appears in the display (Func 2 is for repeat and shuffle changing).

Press and hold UP/DOWN and it will cycle the iPod shuffle setting thru "Random Off", "Random Album" and "Random All".

If you press UP/DOWN without holding, it will cycle between "Repeat Track" and "Repeat All"

[champ222]

that sounds easy enough

cheers

Andy

[ernie23]

Since the HU will only display 8 characters, will they at least scroll trough? ON my current Sony HU I also only have 8 characters displayed, but with mp3-cd´s in the drive the id3 tag scrolls at the biginning of the song, so you know what song it is, and then it displays the first 8 letters of the song, not the best, but alright i guess!?

when you have a HU with a big display, can you jump to a certain letter or is there a search function?

[Morfious]

Originally posted by champ222
is there any operating instructions that come with it that someone could give me a copy of?

You can view/DL your own copy here:
CD-IB100 Manual (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_11221/230205105CDIB100OwnersManual.pdf)

Originally posted by Marita
Hi. I just bought my ipod adapter today to go in my deh-p740mp deck. I'm kinda new to this self installation stuff. So, here's what I did:

I connected the power wired from the adapter to the yellow 12V wired from my deck.
I grounded the adapter with the black wire from my deck.
I connected the colors for the ipbus as shown in the manual for the adapter.
I turn on the power in my car, and absolutely nothing happens with my ipod. With the car power on, I switched the ipbus connector to the other port. I hear stuff through my car speakers, but still no working ipod (no power going to the ipod, and no play through my deck).

Help? Thanks.

I have the same exact deck and it works perfectly. Make sure you have the ip bus hooked up to the correct connector. It should connect from the back of the head unit to the black IP-bus OUT connector. The blue IP bus IN connector is for hooking up a satellite tuner/cd player or aux in adapter etc. Shouldn't make a difference, but I hooked mine up to the power distrobution I have for my amps, but you should be fine hooking it up to the stereo's power. I had to solder on power extensions to the cable to make it reach where my amps power is located. Make sure ground and power connections are secure and that the in line fuse is in tact and not blown. There are no lights or power indicators on the box itself.

Originally posted by ernie23
Since the HU will only display 8 characters, will they at least scroll trough? ON my current Sony HU I also only have 8 characters displayed, but with mp3-cd´s in the drive the id3 tag scrolls at the biginning of the song, so you know what song it is, and then it displays the first 8 letters of the song, not the best, but alright i guess!?

when you have a HU with a big display, can you jump to a certain letter or is there a search function?

You have to hit function 3 and then hold down up or down button. This will scroll whatever is in the display 1x. There is no way to have continuous scroll. I think their DVD toiuchscreen has a better layout and navigation abilities, but I have not seen it in action to judge for myself.

I also thought of another way to search for exactly what you want. If there are a few songs that you want or an album or whatever you can use the on-the-go playlist option, built into the iPod itself. Just disconnec tthe iPod, make your quick playlist of the songs you want and pick that playlist. That is the best way to play a few selected songs instead of searching for them. Things that would make this interface awsome:

1) Having the play/pause button on my headunit do it's intended function (instead of going to function 1)
2) Same goes for the dispaly/scroll button (hitting it would cause the display to scroll or continuously scroll)
3) ability to browse for music while song is playing without jumjping to new song automatically
4) ability to jump to a letter or hold down the button to quickly scroll through choices

[peg_city_villin]

anyone know if there will be any special options or controls for pioneer dvd units.being touch screens i'm wondering what might be different from a typical pioneer hu and a pioneer dvd hu.

[soulslinga]

So does anyone suggest getting any sort of ipod hu interface?
It seems from all the postings that everything sucks. I've been researching all these units and am not sure if i should just go aux in.

One day they'll create an ipod interface that works. Strange question but - any guess on who will create this? I'd like to get a new hu that someone might someday make a good interface for.

Also i'd like a hu that can display all the sirius satellite radio text (for under 300-400$)

Any suggestions?

[wvuvw]

One day they'll create an ipod interface that works

How do you guys think anything could work better with a "standard" HU? Sure, you could do cool click wheel-like things with a DVD-style head unit and touch screen. But for your normal only-plays-CDs type deck, I'm not sure it's possible to create a sleek interface to browse through thousands of songs.

[neologic]

Well I just purchased the Pioneer CD-IB100 and it is pretty cool. It dosen't have the barrier that everyone is worried about. The only thing I'm not liking about it is the fact that it has a 2 second delay when switching songs and that I cannot skip through the different lists very quickly.

[bpross01]

Look, it just takes a little getting used to, that's all. Sure, it's frustrating, but the designers, I think, really want you to master the genre list to better navigate through the songs. Yes, I wish it had everscroll, and yes, I wish you could browse songs while listening to a song, but I also wish I was a millionaire. Fact of the matter, the sound is FANTASTIC. Seriously, I uploaded my songs using ACC, not even lossless, and I can't tell the difference. I'm getting much more facile at cruising through the genres to get what I want, and I've had the thing installed less than a day. I mean, if you think about it, "genres" are just pre-made playlists that should be used to narrow your search anyway. Luckily for me, I guess, I have such a divergent range of tastes that, that even though I have thousands of songs, each genre only has a few hundred. The artists I really like that are buried "in the middle of the pack", I put on a quick playlist. That takes all of 3.4 seconds. My iPod now hides in my glovebox, is charged when I get home or whereever I'm going, I don't have to look down at it while I'm driving, and I no longer have to worry about CDs. Plus, while I used to think it was stupid, "random" is a great way to listen to your favorite music.
For those still interested, I got mine at electronicsbonanza.com for $80. UPS was $6 and I had it in 3 days. Not sure why it's so much cheaper there, but here's the link:

http://electronicsbonanza.com/comersus/store/comersus_advancedSearchExec.asp?keyword=cd-ib100&priceFrom=0&priceUntil=99999&idCategory=0&idSupplier=0&submit=search

Overall, I give it 3.5 stars, which is to say that I'm 85% satisfied. Just so you know, I'm using a DEH-P6700 with the Sirius tuner as well, and for the most part, couldn't be happier.
Email me if you have any questions.
Pross

[Fean0r]

Has anyone used one of Pioneer's top range latest HUs such as the DEH-P9600MP with this unit? If so, was it any better than the reviews we've seen so far?

[bb_00]

I just hook it up to my DEX-P1 and switch to the AUX mode and it didn't work at all. The iPod mini shows the Pioneer logo. The CD changer passthru works fine. The BAND/ESC and the arrow buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I thought this thing works with all "P" series units.
Anyone know why?

[hongchoi]

From a previous statement of mine...

.....ONLY and ONLY the avhp5700dvd has an intuitive touch panel interface for the cd-ib100

all other units....high end, low end, dvd, nondvd sees the interface as an external unit. The interface is mediocre at best.

The only other brand that I know of that has a good interface (so I hear...never used it myself) is clarion. I forget the model number, but their one screen model seems to be popular.

[bpross01]

Originally posted by bb_00
I just hook it up to my DEX-P1 and switch to the AUX mode and it didn't work at all. The iPod mini shows the Pioneer logo. The CD changer passthru works fine. The BAND/ESC and the arrow buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I thought this thing works with all "P" series units.
Anyone know why?

You don't want it in aux mode. The IB100 is sensed as an external, just like Sirius/XM tuners are, so you just hit "source" until external comes up and you'll hear your Ipod playing. I made the same mistake when I first installed mine.

[risingdamp]

I have a DEH7500-MP so I'm suffering like everyone else with this piece of ****. I wanted to be able to scroll through the list of artists to find the album I want but on my 60GB photo I started scrolling from A and never actually reached B before getting bored. I think 'Atomic Kitten' was the closest I got!

Unless you use Playlists all the time or have a very small music collection this thing is unusable and ill thought out.

If the AVH-P5700DVD is the only unit that truly supports browsing with the CD-IB100 has anyone actually used it who can offer a review?

[risingdamp]

Well I'm sorta getting used to using this thing now. Despite it's serious deficiencies I won't be sending the CD-IB100 back. After some perseverance I realise I can do all of the following without having to browse through long lists of artists / genres:
- Play any playlist
- Select an album at random and play it in it's correct order
- Play the whole lot in random track order
- Play a specific album (disconnect from HU, select on iPOD then reconnect)

It's not ideal but it's definately better than going back to a car full of CD/MP3 discs. I'd still like to hear from someone about the AVH-P5700DVD though. Does it really let you browse quickly through lists of 100's of artists? How quick is it in comparison to the click wheel?

[ChrisWorrell]

This thing is not as bad as everyone says it is. All it requires is a little time spent in iTunes setting up the artists/albums/genres.

I have all my music (near 5000 songs) set-up into their appropriate genres as well as the artists and albums are labeled correctly. All I have to do is first, pick the genre i want, which takes maybe 20 seconds. Then i pick the artist in that genre, which takes another 20 seconds. Then all I have to do is pick the album and song that I want to hear. And this is if I want to hear a specefic song. Which is the number 1 complaint about this thing

I havent even setup playlists yet and im pretty happy with this thing.

Everyone who is saying bad things about this, has a poorly set up ipod and that is why it is so hard for them to find the song they want to hear.

If you take the time and set it up like it should be, it is actually a very useful little adapter.

[airshark]

Originally posted by ChrisWorrell
Everyone who is saying bad things about this, has a poorly set up ipod and that is why it is so hard for them to find the song they want to hear.

If you take the time and set it up like it should be, it is actually a very useful little adapter.

Really? You've seen everyone's iPod that doesn't like it? Personally, I have 5500+ tracks in my iPod/iTunes and EVERY single one of them are correctly labeled and tagged with the artist, album, genre, year, as well as album art. I take pride in keeping all of my music perfectly organized.

I don't doubt that you like the adapter. Please, in regards to the rest of us who don't like it, don't immediatley assume that we all must be either idiots or have messy iPods. The fact is that some of us just plain feel that the adapter is a waste of time and money for what you get out of it in regards to features and useability.

For many of us who have purchased and tried the CD-IB100, the interface is just too slow and clunky to be a better alternative to having the iPod mounted and used with the AUX input. Definatley not worth it for the money IMO. I know personally that the slowness in browsing artists made me want to pull my hair out.

If you like it.....then right on and that's all that matters.

[NYRngrs24]

i guess im gonna stick w/ the aux in and control from my ipod. or maybe get ice-link orsimilar. Are there any like that that offer the same thing as ice-link for pioneer stereos?

and the avhp-P5700DVD... i was planning to invest in the touch screen player from pioneerr..i couldnt find the post on the loooong 11 pagepost..but does it scroll fast??

[risingdamp]

Like airshark I too must take offense at Chris's comments. My 43500 files on my PC are very carefully tagged with everything you could imagine - even lyrics. I currently have about 10K tracks on the ipod - hundreds of albums and, since I like a lot of alternative and rock, filtering by genre isn't going to help much. I would still have to hit down arrow on the HU and wait while it tries to play each album. To browse to the middle of the alphabet would be virtually impossible.

Get your facts right before posting Chris and don't assume we are all stupid.

Like I said, this thing does have some things going for it in sound quality and using playlists but for browsing it sucks big times.

[NYRngrs24]

mp3 for your car.. i emailed them. they car coming out w/ an ipod adapter for pioneer stereos. and it is NOT icelink.. it will be Neo brand.

[bb_00]

Originally posted by bpross01
You don't want it in aux mode. The IB100 is sensed as an external, just like Sirius/XM tuners are, so you just hit "source" until external comes up and you'll hear your iPod playing. I made the same mistake when I first installed mine.

I was still unsuccessful with the CD-IB100. I ended up return it and bought the RB-20 and Nyko stereo link instead. I had these hooked up now and it has been working great. Scrolling through the music via the Ipod mini controls isn't too bad while driving because I only push the PLAY/PAUSE and FOWARD buttons most of the time.

[ChrisWorrell]

Originally posted by airshark
Really? You've seen everyone's iPod that doesn't like it? Personally, I have 5500+ tracks in my iPod/iTunes and EVERY single one of them are correctly labeled and tagged with the artist, album, genre, year, as well as album art. I take pride in keeping all of my music perfectly organized.

I don't doubt that you like the adapter. Please, in regards to the rest of us who don't like it, don't immediatley assume that we all must be either idiots or have messy iPods. The fact is that some of us just plain feel that the adapter is a waste of time and money for what you get out of it in regards to features and useability.

For many of us who have purchased and tried the CD-IB100, the interface is just too slow and clunky to be a better alternative to having the iPod mounted and used with the AUX input. Definatley not worth it for the money IMO. I know personally that the slowness in browsing artists made me want to pull my hair out.

If you like it.....then right on and that's all that matters.

I apologize, i did not mean to call anyone an idiot or make fun of someone. I was just stating as someone else also has also, that with a correctly setup ipod, the slowness isnt as big of an issue as everyone is stating, it doesnt take long at all if i sort through genre, then artist, then album, and thats if I want to find a specefic song. Again i apologize i didnt mean to come across as an "###" or calling anyone names. And just becuase you have a messy ipod doesnt mean your an idiot.

[punkt71]

Dude, I swear you must be a Pioneer fanboy or an employee just trying to boost sales of this thing. You registered on this site just to promote this adapter??? And by how your praising this thing, you must never have used it IMO.

I have a perfectly organized IPOD.. there is no way in hell you can find a specific song in under 2 minutes by only seeing 8 characters on your screen and browsing through the slow interface. You HAVE to be kidding! Why would you want to spend that much time screwing around with the thing WHILE YOU ARE DRIVING.. if anything, its a ROAD HAZARD if you want to try to find a song when driving. The reason the IPOD is such a success is because its easy to use interface.. if the IPOD was this hard to control it would have never sold in the first place, so your basically NEUTERING the IPOD by using this interface.

Once again.. DO NOT BUY the IPOD adapter... use an AUX interface and it will sound just as good, and you wont need to waste half your life browsing and risking an accident to find a song... take it from a guy who has an organized IPOD and someone who has ACTUALLY used the thing (and not someone who has been paid to praise this POS)


Originally posted by ChrisWorrell
I apologize, i did not mean to call anyone an idiot or make fun of someone. I was just stating as someone else also has also, that with a correctly setup ipod, the slowness isnt as big of an issue as everyone is stating, it doesnt take long at all if i sort through genre, then artist, then album, and thats if I want to find a specefic song. Again i apologize i didnt mean to come across as an "###" or calling anyone names. And just becuase you have a messy ipod doesnt mean your an idiot.

[Chiznarles]

I just installed this adapter last night and the sound quality is amazing. I had my ipod hooked up via the AUX RB-20 for about 2 years and I would not go back to it because the sound with the CD-IB100 is just THAT MUCH BETTER.

So far I don't mind not being able to find specific songs immediately, as long as I load up my playlists I'm fine with it. The delay is a bit slow but its worth the trade off in sound quality. It sounds like its playing from a CD.

with the AUX input, you're getting sound through an analog line so there is quality loss, plus the sound was also more quiet..

Oh yeah the ipod adapter works with my old Pioneer premiere deh-740mp but the titles only show 8 characters.. I think eventually I might end up upgrading the head unit to something more current that is "ipod ready".

[bb_00]

Originally posted by Chiznarles
I just installed this adapter last night and the sound quality is amazing. I had my ipod hooked up via the AUX RB-20 for about 2 years and I would not go back to it because the sound with the CD-IB100 is just THAT MUCH BETTER.

So far I don't mind not being able to find specific songs immediately, as long as I load up my playlists I'm fine with it. The delay is a bit slow but its worth the trade off in sound quality. It sounds like its playing from a CD.

with the AUX input, you're getting sound through an analog line so there is quality loss, plus the sound was also more quiet..

Oh yeah the ipod adapter works with my old Pioneer premiere deh-740mp but the titles only show 8 characters.. I think eventually I might end up upgrading the head unit to something more current that is "ipod ready".

Both the RB-20 and CD-IB100 get the feed via IP-BUS connection which is digital, so there should not be any sound quality difference. The only difference I can think of is the RB-20 to IPOD connection. Perhaps, you were using a RCA to headphone jack instead of the new RCA to Line-level jack such as the Nyko Stereo Link or the Sik Imp with the RB-20.

[Chiznarles]

Originally posted by bb_00
Both the RB-20 and CD-IB100 get the feed via IP-BUS connection which is digital, so there should not be any sound quality difference. The only difference I can think of is the RB-20 to IPOD connection. Perhaps, you were using a RCA to headphone jack instead of the new RCA to Line-level jack such as the Nyko Stereo Link or the Sik Imp with the RB-20.

Ah that's probably the issue. I was using an RCA to headphone jack (Y-cable) so there was sound quality loss there.

Given my low expectations for the product after reading all the reviews here and on crutchfield, i'm actually quite happy with the product. The fact that don't have to look at my ipod to navigate and that it charge while connected are huge in my book.

I was wondering, does anyone have the ipod hooked up to a newer 2005 headunit that doesn't say "External" when hooked up? I'm wondering if the 8-character liimit is just for the older units and the newer ones will be able to display the full titles and scroll..

[rhoopes]

I recently bought a pioneer deck deh 770 with the ipod adapter. is there a way to scroll through your playlist faster than hitting down or up each time. Can you hold the button down or something? i'm new to this so any help would be appreciated.

[Chiznarles]

Originally posted by rhoopes
I recently bought a pioneer deck deh 770 with the ipod adapter. is there a way to scroll through your playlist faster than hitting down or up each time. Can you hold the button down or something? i'm new to this so any help would be appreciated.

If you read the whole thread you'll see that everyone has the same complaint. There no fast way to navigate through the ipod with the headunit. If you want to find a specific song, the best way is to disconnect it from the headunit, navigate to it using the ipod and then plug it back in to the headunit.

[ertyu]

Looking at the 2003+ Honda Accord, it seems that many of these factory radios use an IP-Bus. So has anyone tried the Pioneer CD-IB100 on it? Probably need to work up a modified plug/connection for it though.

[STLpod]

Originally posted by ertyu
Looking at the 2003+ Honda Accord, it seems that many of these factory radios use an IP-Bus. So how did you determine Hondas used an IP-Bus on the OEM units?

[ertyu]

UPDATED!

A couple things lead me in this direction.

a) The name of the pins on the connector. It has a differential BUS, and differential L and R connections. This is consistent with the IP BUS. There is also a differential ILL connection which I haven't figured out yet.

b) Dension's compatibility guide for the icelink lists the vehicle as having a Pioneer head unit. (Update: Dension lists the interface as Connects2 {add the www and com to the name to get the website}, they list the head unit as Pioneer) They also used the Soundgate adapter in the past, but that doesn't tell us anything.

c) Compatibility lists often lump Toyota and Honda vehicles in the same group and several Toyotas in the group are known to have Pioneer.

[Chiznarles]

Originally posted by ertyu
Looking at the 2003+ Honda Accord, it seems that many of these factory radios use an IP-Bus. So has anyone tried the Pioneer CD-IB100 on it? Probably need to work up a modified plug/connection for it though.

I would be interested in this too.. my gf has a Toyota and I wonder if the CD-IB100 could be wired up somehow to work with the OEM head unit.

[mp3m0nk3y]

I'm looking very closely at the AVIC-D1 HU. The main attraction is all of that screen real estate and the general OEM look of it. If anyone has used one of these with the CD-IB100, please post your impressions.

[mrbigbri]

Both the RB-20 and CD-IB100 get the feed via IP-BUS connection which is digital

What on earth led you to believe that the IP-Bus was DIGITAL? You couldn't be more wrong. The IP-bus audio path is analog from beginning to end.

Brian

[hiram6]

Am considering this option for my DEH-P3500 in my car. . Has anyone out there used the Alpine set-up? My wife has an Alpine headunit in her car and their version of the iPod interface, just wondering if the Pioneer was better or worse. The Pioneer has been bashed pretty well here, but the Alpine is pretty bad as well.

My criteria for the Pioneer would be: "Is it worse than the Alpine?"

Equal or better, I'll get it. Worse, I might save my $80 for some other goodie.

[chadiln]

Hi,

Just out of curiosity, I have a Pioneer AVH-P7500 HU. I have been eyeing Pioneer's iPod adapter thinking that it will allow me to easily navigate through my 4000+ songs in my iPod on my car stereo. After reading through some of the posts here, I am having 2nd thoughts about investing in this adapter.

I see that most people here agree that the sound coming out of the adapter is "excellent". But is the sound any different than a line-out connection from the iPod to the HU?

I am currently listening to my iPod in my car through SendStation's PocketDock Lineout & Firewire connector hooked up to the AVH-P7500's breakout box's line-in connection. Is there any audio difference between my method and Pioneer's iPod adapter method?

[hiram6]

As long as you are using the lin-out, and not the headphone jack, I can't see how the Pioneer is going to improve the sound quality. I have the Senstation adapter as well, the only reason I'm considering the Pioneer module is to hide the ipod away with more of a stealth factor. The Sendstation PocketDock is a cool little product!!

[chadiln]

Yeah, I also wanted to be able to use the touchscreen functions of my HU to control the iPod while it is neatly tucked away in the glove compartment.

As for the sound quality, I was hoping that since it is hooked up directly to the external box unit of my AVH 7500, I would be taking advantage of the more advanced DAC... hence the "excellent sound" as touted by the other members here?

[xaraan]

OK

Well, I bought my setup before I read all this, otherwise; I may not have.

But anyways, I have the 7700 Pioneer head unit and the iPod interface thing in there now. I'm not happy with the way to navigate, I was thinking with the wheel on the head unit it would work like the iPod wheel itself, instead of pushing you're way button through button, track through track. But for now, I'll live with it. I have a bunch of playlists and I am usually happy playing one of those on random or the whole music collection on random.

My problem is this. The thing is hooked up, but when I select External-iPod, it clicks over to iPod and begins playing the track (according to the ticker). I can even scroll to the functions and see the track and artist playing. Problem is = no music! The iPod seems to be communicating the info, but not the sound. The rest is hooked up right, it gets sound on every other source. Just nothing from the iPod itself. (Note: The iPod screen says: Pioneer OK to disconnect) all the time too.

The guy at circuit city said I needed to update my iPod, but that didn't do anything to change the situation.

Can anybody Help me??

[xaraan]

Ran the update again and reset my iPod; didn't help.
Seems to be wired up ok.

Anyone have any suggestions, this just seems weird?

[daviscup]

Im having the EXACT same problem Xaraan both my head unit and the ipod are interacting with eachother but there is no sound coming from my car stereo. All other sources work fine. I bought my adapter from a mail order company and im just about to return it to them unless anyone has a solution????

[daviscup]

Im having the EXACT same problem Xaraan both my head unit and the ipod are interacting with eachother but there is no sound coming from my car stereo. All other sources work fine. I bought my adapter from a mail order company and im just about to return it to them unless anyone has a solution????

[daviscup]

Im having the EXACT same problem Xaraan both my head unit and the ipod are interacting with eachother but there is no sound coming from my car stereo. All other sources work fine. I bought my adapter from a mail order company and im just about to return it to them unless anyone has a solution????

[daviscup]

Im having the EXACT same problem Xaraan both my head unit and the ipod are interacting with eachother but there is no sound coming from my car stereo. All other sources work fine. I bought my adapter from a mail order company and im just about to return it to them unless anyone has a solution????

[greenz]

new forum member. after reading the thread i decided to go against the pioneer adapter for my cadillac and stick with the belkin auto kit and rca line in to me it sounds great all i need now is just a place to mount my ipod and i will be set

[bmoody33]

I too after reading all the problems and limitations of the IB100 decided to not buy it.

I want to say a big thanks to those who posted their honest experience with it on this thread.

So, I went with the SIK adapter and IPbus adapter setup with my Pioneer Permier 750 HU instead. It suits my needs and I posted some info on a different thread. To not double post I'll put the link below but since I'm not an "established" member - yet, you can't click the link and you'll need to copy and paste it into your browser to get to the link. My post is at the bottom of that thread page dated 08/02/2005 at 12:52PM That post also has some links to the SIK and IPBUS adapter you might want.

forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109178&highlight=sik

Cheers :) Bruce

[peg_city_villin]

if you have a pioneer p5700dvd head unit this'll be worth it.if not,go with something else.

[bmoody33]

And with your HU 5700DVD do you experience the 1 or 2 second delay when browsing for songs?

I experienced that with another Pioneer CDC interface with the NEO MP3 player and everyone on here and some other lists said the Pioneer / IPOD interface has the same delay so that's why I didn't buy the Pioneer interface and went the SIK interface route. To some the delay is no big deal but to me it drove me crazy. Plus my HU p750 display isn't as big as the IPOD so more scrolling of characters with the NEO MP3 was driving me nuts as well.

Bruce

[taffman]

For those of you who bought the Pioneer Ipod adapter and want control back of your Ipod when connected to the in car system, here is how you do it with out having to disconnect the Ipod from the dock connector to pick your music.

It will of course invalidate your warranty on the adapter but you will have control. Open up the Ipod adapter box, just two Phillips screws, you should see a connector that has all the wires going to it from the white cables coming into the box from the Ipod. Carefully pull the connector upwards to disconnect it. In the middle there should be a blue wire, lift the little peg that holds the very small socket that the blue wire is connected to and it should now just pull out. Put a bit of electrical tape around it to stop it touching any thing and put the top back on the box. Of course you do this with the power off and pull the power connecter out of the Ipod adapter.

After reconnecting it all, you should now have full control of your Ipod to pick your music. The down side is you loose the auto stop and start when you turn the car ignition on and off.

I’ve done it and used it this way for a few months now with no problems. Give it a go if you want.

[eepod]

taffman: I have the Pioneer AVIC-D1 nav system with the pioneer ipod adapter, and as you can guess, HATE it. I see your suggestion for disconnecting the blue wire so that you can use the ipod scroll wheel again, and was wondering what other impact disabling the blue wire will have. While I'm having problems getting my nav screen to display song titles, I know it's supposed to. Are you still able to see text on the screen if you pull the blue wire?

You know, if what you say works, it would probably be better to disable the blue wire than to uninstall the unit and buy a Neo iON or ice link, right? Those units tent to cost upwards of $150, and I only paid $100 for Pioneer's adapter. And if I pull the blue wire, I'd potentially still be able to use my stereo controls on my car to forward a track and change the volume, while still being able to use the ipod navigation. That's pretty much what the iON and ice link do, right?

If the only drawback is the breach of warranty, it might be worth it.

[taffman]

Before I disconnected the blue wire I could not see any track info on the screen except for the one line across the top of the screen on my unit, the same as yours. As like every one else, trying to find any thing was a pain. When you disconnect the blue wire is stops the display of any thing from the Ipod on the screen but it shows the blue background etc unlike the AVI input which is just a blank black screen. You will never have a display as if you would by using a CD withy MP3 on it as I thought before I bought it. Pioneer said it never will due to the chip in it the unit. It was designed to intergrate with a new Pioneer unit that was released not long ago which I cannot remember the number of. It is the only unit it will work with how people think it should for now.

Give it a go, you can put the wire back if you dont like what it does.

[bmoody33]

After you disconnect the blue wire are you still able to use your HU's controls to go forward or backward, etc or only the IPOD's controls?

[taffman]

There is no control from the HU, only from the Ipod.

[eepod]

So, that basically makes the adapter an expensive charger/rca cable. Granted, the sound may be a little better, but is that really worth $100? Personally, I don't want Pioneer to have my money for that piece of crap. I think I'm just going to have them uninstall the Pioneer adapter and refund it, and put in an RCA cable for now. Hopefully the Neo iON for Pioneer will come out soon, and will WORK. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion, taffman.

[bmoody33]

Yeah I agree that it makes it an expensive charger signal sender.

You could just refund your money for the Pioneer adapter and go the route I did with a SIK IMP and an IP bus input adapter.
Here's the post I made about that in another thread below: Sorry to others that it's lengthy but I don't have enough member rights to put a hyperlink into a post so my only option was to paste it below. It is on topic though :)

Love my SIK IMP DC adapter & line level to aux input with my Pioneer HU
When I first bought my 4th Gen 20GB IPOD I started surfing the posts on here and read about the SIK IMP and decided to buy it and try it out with my Pioneer Head unit that has an AUX input. It's awesome sounding. Cleanest signal I've ever heard, charges my IPOD and doubles as a firewire out connection if needed.

Here's some links to help you out if you need them.

SIK IMP 03-104 with DC Charger.
$29.95 is what paid + $5.43 shipping.
(note you can get the adapter without the charger for a bit less but I like having the charger in case my IPOD battery is running low.)
They also have a bunch of other cool IPOD accessories and no I'm not affiliated with them at all.

store.sik.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SS&Product_Code=03-1004&Category_Code=AAi

Then for my Pioneer head unit I needed to buy an IPBUS to RCA adapter. It's just a short adapter that plugs in the back of the IPBUS on the head unit that has female RCA left and right connections. The manufacturer was Soundgate and I bought it off a yahoo store. Again no affiliation for me just good price ($10.59 + $8.95 shipping) and fast delivery so thought I would share the info.

sjgreatdeals.com/sgtauxcblpio.html

To the IPBUS to female stereo RCA adapter I then connected a $5.00 to $10.00 stereo mini male to RCA male wire (available in most any local computer or audio stores) to the SIK adapter.

sjgreatdeals.com/yrkn215pm.html

This setup for me works great as when I get to work I hid most of my wires under my center console and simply just squeeze the SIK connector to disconnect my IPOD when I leave my car.

Also, I left enough length on my cabling so that I can hold the IPOD in front of my face if needed so I can glance down at it to surf for a song or simply hit the next button on shuffle mode.

I considered buying the $140 retail Pioneer CD-IB100 iPod adapter

pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_2007714_192089315,00.html

but I read on another thread here

forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78125&perpage=15&highlight=pioneer%20adapter&pagenumber=13

that it had some problems and it had up to a 2 to 3 second delay.

I definately didn't want that delay and I like using the IPOD wheel better than my Pioneer Head interface. So, it's not as clean of a look at the Pioneer solution but I saved some cash and I can use the SIK adapter in other cars and home stereo's, etc.

So in summary this is what I'm using and my cost including shipping.
1. SIK IMP with DC adapter $36
2. PIONEER IPBUS ADAPTER $ 20
3. Mini male to RCA male stereo wire $5
Total = $ 61

Cheers Bruce

PS sorry about not being able to post the URL's correctly to link but I'm not an established member yet and it wouldn't let me post them correctly for some reason. I'll edit and fix when I become an established member whenever that is. Until then you'll have to copy and paste the links into your browser to get them to work.

[eepod]

Bmoody: Thanks for the info. Did you do that because it gives significantly better sound quality than just connecting an rca line into the top of the ipod? I'd have an installer do it, but I'm just trying to understand the reasoning behind it. Also, any way to get the charger behind the dash?

I'm trying to find a cheap interim way to connect my ipod, so I can justify getting the Neo iON installed if/when it comes out in a few months.

You might want to look into some of the great looking mounting units. I'm certainly going to get one. Check out www proclipusa dot com.

Thanks!

[bmoody33]

EEPOD

SIK IMP and now ITRIP

With the IP Bus interface line in adapter to my p750 HU it wants line level in. While using the jack on the top for headphones can work adjusting the volume up and down isn't very convenient.
The SIK IMP adapter is white and plugs into the bottom of the IPOD then splits out two wires. One for the mini-jack to send the line output and one that connects to a firewire 6 pin connection which connects to the DC power outlet (AKA cigarette adapter). It's white so what I did was hide most of the wires under my center console from the dash. I don't always use the DC converter and sometimes use it in other cars so I just let that wire and adapter one hang out in plain view so that I can easily disconnect it. If you only have one car then you can always hide it by hard wiring it under the dash but you'd have to buy a power outlet female end and hide it up under the dash after wiriing it into a 12 volt source.

Also, one other option is to purchase the IPOD FM sender ITRIP. It's not the best cleanist solution but I bought one a couple of weeks ago and have been pleasantly surprised in how well it works in the right circumstances. The nice thing is it clips right to the top of the IPOD and draws power from the IPOD port on top. You can select a radio station from the whole FM band from the IPOD interface wheel. I use it on one of my cars that has no mini input and it works pretty well without much interferance. I also use it on an older boombox outside in my back yard which has no line input. It doesn't transmit the whole house but I have been able to get a decent signal into 3 rooms in my house with the correct positioning of the ipod. I bought the IPOD ITRIP in white from Griffin technology for about $35 from Frys electronics.
Here's a link but you'll have to copy and paste and put a www in there.
griffintechnology.com/products/itrip/

Just be aware that it won't be as clean as a direct line and in your area you might have interferance with other FM signals so I'd say try it but keep the box and receipt handy in case after a week or so you don't like it then return it for a refund.

Bruce

[eepod]

Thanks, but I've tried fm transmitters in downtown NYC and downtown Chicago (where I live now), and they've been HORRIBLE. I think if you don't live in a big city the interference wouldn't be as bad, but where I live, even a cassette adapter is a million times better and more reliable than an fm transmitter.

So, I'm assuming that the SIK IMP method you suggested above would give the same results as using an ipod charger and a separate rca cable into the ipod, right? Sorry for being so dense about this. I'm just checking if the end results would be different.

[bmoody33]

No worries, ask as many questiosn as you want as many other people have helped me on here as I was just about to purchase the Pioneer IPOD interface but luckily didn't because of help I got on here.

Yes, same audio results just not as versitle.
However, if you already have the IPBUS adapter with the RCA inputs then all you really need is wire with the mini (headphone size) male to RCA connector. Plug it into the top of your IPOD headphone out, adjust the volume and see how it sounds. If it sounds good enough for you and you don't mind adjusting the volume each time you change the volume for say the last time you used headphones, etc. The sound from the headphones will be just about the same as the sound from the SIK IMP line out. By ear you can sometimes hear the difference but I couldn't tell much from my testing. Then you really don't need the SIK IMP with the line level out. If you keep your IPOD charged then you really don't need the car DC adapter.
I hope I'm making sense?

Bruce

[taffman]

Could any one tell me why the Neo iON will be better with the Pioneer HUD's. What will I see on my touch screen display with this new unit?

I posted the item about the blue wire for those people who had already bought the adapter and fed up with its poor performance.

[eepod]

Taffman: If I weren't still in the 30 day return period for the Pioneer adapter, I might consider pulling out the blue wire. Another option for those annoyed with the adapter is to unhook the ipod each time you want to switch genres/artists/albums, and then plug it back in again. At least then you could still use the adapter to forward a track, automatically pause and power off your ipod at the approriate times, and control the volume. Also, I would call Pioneer and lodge a complaint about how bad the unit is. They may actually try to do something to compensate you (they offered me a free RCA cable, and are looking into what else they might be able to do), or perhaps put you on a list for a discount upgrade when the next version of the adapter comes out (that's just my guess - who knows)? Can't hurt to register your disappointment.

As for the Neo iON adapter that will work with Pioneer systems, no one knows how it will work. You can also call Neo during business hours and speak to one of their customer service reps. The guy I spoke with said that it should be released in 4-6 weeks, and that he played with one about 6 months ago when it was in development. He said it might enable your screen to show the artist/album/track, and that depending on your system, may even enable scrolling through songs on your stereo. BUT, he wouldn't commit to anything, because the unit hasn't been released. He put me on an email list to receive a notice when the item is released. The bottom line is that the iON may be a lot better than the Pioneer adapter if it really does allow the full display of all the information AND allow you to navigate through songs using your stereo buttons (and possibly screen), AND still allow you to use your ipod.

Sorry I don't have more information on it.

[bmoody33]

Google has a bunch of hits on the Neo iON. Not sure if it's the same one you are talking about but here's just one of the links?
Copy and paste into your browser.

laptopmag.com/Review/Neo-iON.htm

[taffman]

Hi All,

Thanks for the info on the Neo item. willwatch out for it.

[Churnd]

Does anyone think there's a way to hack the adapter to just play the music through the receiver, yet control the iPod through the iPod itself? I've been searching all morning for something, but haven't found anything. I emailed Pioneer, but I doubt I'll get anything from them.

Just another unhappy customer as far as that adapter is concerned. If I can't figure out a way to make it work like I want, I'm selling it and getting the AUX adapter.

[Churnd]

I'm learning a little. Basically, I'd just need to bypass the firmware of the adapter to get it to emulate an aux in adapter. Problem is, I don't know how.

[Churnd]

Would anybody else be interested in doing this? I wouldn't mind doing a detailed write-up with pics and all seeing how there's no other info out there about it at the moment.

[hoots711]

wow, what a good (and long) read this thread has been..

Currently sitting in my house is a unopened pioneer 7700 with the cd-IB100 adaptor sitting next to it, unopened aswell.

Why I think this solution may work for me.

1. I have about 5000 songs on my 20gig and am in the process (sloooooww process) of organizing them by playlist
2. If I want to play a particular song, I am fine with pulling the pod and browsing to it. then repluging the pod. (Actually, browsing to 1 particular song is a little time consuming on a ipod regardless. So I dont know how pioneer or anyone would simplify this since its more of a ipod issue...think how many steps you have to do on your pod to get to that one song you want? Now think how you could do this via remote, or buy HU while keeping your eyes on the road? Id love to hear some simple solutions that dont inlcude voice recorded searching) I assume that pulling the pod and replacing is seemless? SO I could pull, find a song and hit play then plug it back in and it would be playing immediatly?
3. I will be happy with random play and random playlist play for most of the time.
4. CUrrently I burn a cd or 2 the night before a long trip or when I get some new music to throw in my car, I wouldnt mind (too much) spending a few min creating a "new arrival" playlist or throwing a few albums I have been jonesing for into a playlist from time to time or before big trips.
5. I have steering wheel controls (which will also be connected) to my new head unit. I Imagine 80-90% of the time my music will simply be jumping random tracks via the steering wheel controls and listening to a few seconds before staying or jumping to the next song.

MY biggest concern... THe delay I keep hearing about? Is the delay found when jumping from song to song? In other words...everytime I hit next will there be a 2-3 second delay? That sounds a little annoying, but I have noticed at work and in my im3 (via remote) there is a 1-3 sec delay inbetween songs. Maybe it is just more bareable when it isnt in your car.

Anywho, let me know what you all think. I am waiting on my faceplate to come in for the install so It will still b a few days before I have everything I need.

Will this system work for me?

DO I have ANY other options to use the ipod AND change songs through my steering wheel?

Thanks for your thoughts.

[GavinD]

One of the nicest things about the iPod is its interface and ease of use. Adapters that disable the iPod’s actual navigating are tripping… I love being able to use the wheel on my iPod when stuck in traffic or at a light. Its also nice being able to hand my iPod to passengers so they can play DJ. :cool:

[ZiMMie]

I hope u guys no that u can switch modes on ur headunits. for specific control for the ipod. holdin the ENT. button will auto matically swich to Mode 2 for multi source units.

[Kanadianiceman]

i liked the idea of a seamless install with the pioneer ipod integration unit


ALTHOUGH.
when it is plugged in does it not read pioneer on the ipod and you cannot do anything on the ipod?

playlists cannot be viewed by a passenger,
cannot play games.
cannot review notes, track listings, movie listings, or any other items added via third party software such as ipod agent.


also with the cheaper aux in solution via RCA, i have used it three times so far on different sources
friends mp3 player
friends laptop
friends cell phone.

unless you are not looking for any real expansion and want to be looking at your deck all the time i would suggest the cheaper, 1/4 the price aux input, with some love you can hide the cables (its not that hard really have some patients!)

i will be using the belkin auto kit connected to my aux input on my pioneer deck so my ipod will be charged and have output.

[DevilWAH]

Im in 2 minds about this toy!!

the pioneer adaptor is great and with my DEH 9400mp HU i can just throw the HU remote to the guys in the back seat so they can have a DJ session.

However i have one major problem with it. that is. it only desplays the first 8 caratures of the song/artist/playlist.. whould it have been that hard to make it scroll??

But other wise its great. get in car lift cover to arm rest between seats. slip ipod in holder and clip in. ipod out of sight out of way. but i still got 20gig of songs to play with :) :)

Also i like the fact taht when i change sorce from radio to cd to ipod. it flashes up ipod on teh screen which looks neat lol yer i sad i knwo it but!!!

[metallicat]

Man am I glad I read this entire thread. I found out about this unit yesterday, and went to Best Buy and bought it. I even signed up for their installation. 196.00 Canadian dolalrs later, I finally get around to reading this entire thread. I have now cancelled the installation that was supposed to begin 23 minutes ago, and will return the Pioneer adapter shortly.

Thanks!

[pfunk027]

I read a review on Amazon of the interface that said the speed issues have been improved by using the nano with this interface. Is this true, and can anyone corroborate out there?

[Teallach]

Can't search with Pioneer car adaptor
Hi, I posted this in the 'in-car' section but was told I should post elsewhere... tried 'Probs & solutions' but got no response there... hope here is good! If not, can someone tell me where?

The issue is:

I've installed the CD-IB100 with the DEH-P6700.

I knew it would never be as easy to use as the ipod itself but in general, I'm fairly pleased.

However, when I try to play a particular track or album or artist, it seems to 'autoscroll' through the tracks of the album or artist without playing anything. It's as if it's trying to decide which track to play. It doesn't happen always, but mostly.

Have I set something wrong?

I've a standard 40GB ipod. Maybe I need to set something on it?

Thanks!

[Podity]

Speed difference with the Nano?

I pluged a mates 4Gb Nano into my Alpine set up and it did seem to search through stuff a bit quicker - not massively though.

I think the nano uses Flash memory rather than a trad HD. If I've got that right, that would explain it ??

[Mobail]

I just got the pioneer installed in my car along with a pioneer stereo....I am less than impressed. Navigating is a joke, displaying the information you want is a joke, setting it up every single time you unplug and replug the ipod is a joke. Do not spend the money on this, it's not worth the quality upgrade from a normal aux input.

[bbasra]

Originally posted by taffman
Before I disconnected the blue wire I could not see any track info on the screen except for the one line across the top of the screen on my unit, the same as yours. As like every one else, trying to find any thing was a pain. When you disconnect the blue wire is stops the display of any thing from the iPod on the screen but it shows the blue background etc unlike the AVI input which is just a blank black screen. You will never have a display as if you would by using a CD withy MP3 on it as I thought before I bought it. Pioneer said it never will due to the chip in it the unit. It was designed to intergrate with a new Pioneer unit that was released not long ago which I cannot remember the number of. It is the only unit it will work with how people think it should for now.

Give it a go, you can put the wire back if you dont like what it does.

I think i have made very big mistake. After reading about all these issues with the Pioneer Ipod Adaptor, i decided that i will go for for the RCA IP Bus route with a seperate charger and still be able to use my PIONEER KEH-P9700R and CD Changer So i went and bought:

1 x Sik Imp with Line out and Charger - £18
1 x Pioneer CD-RB20 RCA to IP Bus Connector - £36
1 x Jack to RCA - £5
Total £59.00

Now, i realised that this would look messy and should have just bought the CD-IB100 adaptor and disconnected the blue wire as i want to control the Ipod from the Ipod itself and be able to charge it. With the CD-IB100 adaptor, all i would have is one cable going into the ipod and be able to charge it and use it.

1. What you think i should do now?
2. Is the CD-IB100 adaptor compatable with PIONEER KEH-P9700R
3. how would it select the Ipod and What will i see on the HU display?

Thanks.....

.....Dam i messed up big time.... the ipod adaptor is going on ebay for about £50

[taffman]

Mobail got it right in a nice way. There are words I can think of to describe this heap of junk that are best not said in public. Its a rip off for any one who thinks it will give them a display that is of any use to them. Dont go there, dont think of buying it, forget it completely.

I did and I feel well and truely done. The adverts for Pioneer does not tell the truth about this product. I have the AVIC X1 and I cannot see any use what so ever in using the Ipod adapter with this excellent unit. Go the AUX route, cheaper and better. Any one who says other wise is just fooling them selves. Check the specs before you buy, your equipment is almost 95% not fully compatible with it. They need to be honest up front and say out right that unless you have the very very latest equipment from them, then you will not see any info of use on any of the displays.

Mine is a touch screen display and I thought I would see some thing similar to when I put a CD in with MP3 tracks on it. No chance.

Just dont buy it and if you have send an e mail to Pioneer telling tem how bad it is as they dont seem to think it is at all bad. In fact they dont know of all the complaints levelled against it on such places as this.

Hvae anice day, rant over!

[bbasra]

thanks for your reply.

but AFTER YOU DISCONNECT the blue wire and use your ipod, what do you see on the ipod display and the HU display? I have the mini, will i be able to see the ipod display, or will the ipod say pioneer on the screen?

[taffman]

The Ipod display reverts back to normal, as if it was not connected to anything. The HD shows a blank screen with the source button at the top left saying OFF and on mine after a while 'communication error' but the Ipod still plays normally. Down side is that the Ipod still plays when the engine of the car is turned off so you have to manually stop the Ipod. Before the blue wire is disconnected, the Ipod stops playing, pauses.

By disconnecting the blue wire. The Ipod adapter just becomes a very expensive link to the system. Its cheaper to use the Belkin Car Kit which for me gives better audio through the RCA input on my AVIC X1 and control, the Ipod stops when the engine is turned off plus a lot lot quicker at finding what I want to listen to.

Any one who is considering buying Pioneer interface, dont until you have found out if it does what you want. Any doubts, dont, you will feel cheated and let down by Pioneer.

[chillyp]

Well, I was in the process a few months ago of trying to find another solution to my CD-IB100 issue. First off, I have the Pioneer Premier DEH-8MP and a 5g iPod.

I was doing some Googling on the CD-IB100 and other accessories (because I wanted to dump it, but at the same time I wanted to see what everyone else had said). I came across an interesting little trick that I've been using for at least 6 months now with no issues.

Now, I went back a few pages in this thread, and I haven't read the whole thing, so I don't know if this has been posted, but the secret is to connect your iPod to the CD-IB100 while the iPod power is off!

As long as the iPod shut itself off (after a minute or so) and you didn't force it off by holding down the Play/Pause button, you can still control your iPod (and watch videos...mwahaha)!

Once you connect your iPod, and you see the Pioneer logo, go ahead and hit your menu button a couple times and VOILA...you have full control of it. Also, if you shut your car off with the iPod connected, then start it after any amount of time, you will still have control of the iPod!

I haven't been able to test this with any other model other than the 5g, and you have to remember that you can't plug it in unless the iPod shuts itself off.

Cheers.

[shogun77]

Have you seen that new connector on the CD-IB100II? Man that thing is one fugly monster.

[chillyp]

Originally posted by shogun77
Have you seen that new connector on the CD-IB100II? Man that thing is one fugly monster. lol

[Bitgod]

Glad I saw this thread, I was a bit disappointed, as I knew I'd end up, with my new 780MP (aka 7800) + IB100II setup. It might not be so bad for a small ipod, but you go get a large ipod and scrolling through your music with the knob on the radio is too slow, so I tried your workaround and it worked, I was able to control the ipod from it's wheel while connected. Can't beat the original interface. :) I'm also lucky that damn monster dock connector fits into the gap of my leather case.

[heed316]

Does the workaround work on the new version (ib100i)? I've tried to get it to work a few times and it always goes directly back into the pioneer screen after I plug it in the second time. I can't ever get it to go back to the menu. If you were able to get the workaround to work with this newer version of the adaptor please let me know how you got it to work, or what I am doing wrong.

[downset71]

whats up all, new as of today. breezed thru the last year of this post, because i have the pioneer dvd,cd player without the screen, with the ip100 ipod interface.hate it, lookin for alternative ideas.but not to throw a monkeywrench in the forum, but does anybody have an idea how to transfer the 20gig ipod display over to an external screen, such as my 7in icon? it has standard rca inputs. i will try the blue wire trick this week, but i want to SEE what i am doin not only on my ipod, but the lcd also!!!

[Gokujin]

does anybody of any pics of operation? like shuffling thru the playlist with the headunit or songs?

[k3n58]

Yeah, explain how you did this with the ii... i've had no such luck w/ the 6800mp

[k3n58]

Glad I saw this thread, I was a bit disappointed, as I knew I'd end up, with my new 780MP (aka 7800) + IB100II setup. It might not be so bad for a small ipod, but you go get a large ipod and scrolling through your music with the knob on the radio is too slow, so I tried your workaround and it worked, I was able to control the ipod from it's wheel while connected. Can't beat the original interface. :) I'm also lucky that damn monster dock connector fits into the gap of my leather case.


Just tried my 6800 mp + IB100ii with a 5G, 4G, Nano and still no such luck with it powered off :( any more tips im all ears

[mcubed45]

the new ib100ii is only $50 now at crutchfield now :)

[LIPPSTUH]

i've heard that scrolling is faster... it MIGHT be slightly better/worse than alpine's depends who you ask...

[chillyp]

Well it looks like with the new 1.2 update that the trick doesn't work for me anymore.

This blows.

[pedrof]

Thankfully, after about an hour of frantic fiddling with the iPod and my Pioneer head unit, I've found a way that reliably allows me to control the iPod using the clickwheel while attached to my head unit with the recent 1.2 firmware upgrade installed on the iPod.

The trick is to have the iPod turned on and at the same time as you plug in the Pioneer controller plug, hold down the play/pause button. If all goes well, the Pioneer screen might come up on the iPod briefly but then it should go to sleep. Press any button again and voila, you should have full control of the iPod again while still hooked up to the head unit.

Whew!!!

[Whask]

The trick is to have the iPod turned on and at the same time as you plug in the Pioneer controller plug, hold down the play/pause button.

Won't this shut down the iPod? I guess it has to be a very quick connection and be difficult to do while driving though?

If all goes well, the Pioneer screen might come up on the iPod briefly but then it should go to sleep.

It should dissapear briefly, or after a monite or two like the normal automatic shutdown?

Thanks for the tips, I'll give it a try at lunch today, ot later tonight when I get a chance.

[chillyp]

Thankfully, after about an hour of frantic fiddling with the iPod and my Pioneer head unit, I've found a way that reliably allows me to control the iPod using the clickwheel while attached to my head unit with the recent 1.2 firmware upgrade installed on the iPod.

The trick is to have the iPod turned on and at the same time as you plug in the Pioneer controller plug, hold down the play/pause button. If all goes well, the Pioneer screen might come up on the iPod briefly but then it should go to sleep. Press any button again and voila, you should have full control of the iPod again while still hooked up to the head unit.

Whew!!!
This worked perfect for me, by the way. Great find!

[antsman41]

thanks so much pedrof!

[bpross01]

OH MY GOD this could not have worked better!! I have a 4g (or maybe a 3g, it's so old I can't remember!!) with 3.1.1 on it and IT WORKS!! I've put up with this got'dam thing for nearly 2 YEARS and now I can finally control the iPod!!

Interestingly, the first time I did it, it worked perfectly. Then, I couldn't replicate it again until I started pushing down pause/play a little longer, sliding in the connector, and then continuing to hold pause/play down afterwards-- if the display turns off, then you have it. Just hit menu, it turns back on, and you have full control. Best part, when you turn off your vehicle, the iPod also turns off and when you turn it back on, you STILL have full control.

I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH!! Amazing how much such a little thing can impact your life!

[mj2182]

This worked perfect for me, by the way. Great find!
worked for me too.

thanks so much for the help.
when i updated to the new ipod software version, i thought there would be no way around it.

this trick makes the adapter worth it.

[moogwai]

aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh.........####ed of newbie here.cut a long story short, brought a new 30gb ipod to connect to my pioneer deh p940 mp via the cd ib100mk 2 adaptor to find that i was getting no sound from my stereo(via the ipod) although everything else was working fine,ie ipod was charging,display on stereo was showing what was playing and i could change tracks,so i know evrything was connected up properly.
so i thought because it was an older head unit,something may have happened to it so i replaced it with a new pioneer deh p9800bt.
connected it all up...tried it,and the same thing happened again.....no sound but all the display and features worked.
so...thinking it was the adaptor,i sent that back and received new one today,fitted it and.....you guessed it....the same thing is happening.aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh.
thinking it may be something to do with the connections on the ipod i hooked it up to my pc and played stored music on the ipod through the pc and that's fine.
can anyone help me,i'm goin out of my mind!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[dcorban]

i was getting no sound from my stereo(via the ipod) although everything else was working fine,ie ipod was charging,display on stereo was showing what was playing and i could change tracks,so i know evrything was connected up properly.


I had this exact same issue. After trying (what I thought was) everything, it ended up being the cable from the adapter to the iPod. :o Replaced that and everything is fine.

[chillyp]

*edit*

Disregard.

It's been working fine lately, even after the latest firmware update to the iPod

[afterglow]

I'm wondering what sort of cases are you guys using that'll let the HUGE plug from the IB100 connect to the dock connector??

Will something like the Agent18 or the iSkin EVO3 work??

[jp76]

Has anyone with the CD-IB100 had a problem with their iPod after upgrading the firmware to 1.2?

I recently updated my iPod (5g 30Gb) to 1.2 and it started doing "weird" things when plugged into the IB100. It would skip tracks and restart from a completely different spot. I eventually reformatted and downgraded back to firmware 1.1, but just wanted to know if anyone else had that problem?

Also, my wife's brand new 5.5G 30Gb also did the same thing. Do I have to reformat that new one and downgrade the firmware also? Will the 5.5G even take the older firmware?

[carlos1583]

This is my first post after reading this forum for a few days and I must say I like this place a lot. I just bought my first ipod last week and its been pretty cool. I've only used it to run so far but I know as the months go by, I'll have more uses for it.

A few days ago, I purchased the pioneer adapter for my pioneer radio (DEH-4800MP) so that I may use the ipod on the road. I specifically bought only because I read that you could bypass the HU and use the ipod to navigate for music. Unfortunately, I've tried every trick that I've read and I still can't get it to work. I really do not like the navigation of the HU but I really like the sound of the adapter. Can any one please please help me with this so I won't return it? Is there something else I can do? I have the 30G 5generation video ipod with the updated firmware if that helps. Thanks again...

[monkeyracer]

I have a 5.5G iPod Video and a DEH-P770MP with the CD-IB100 (not the ii) and I can not get this to work.

I can get my girlfriend's 5.0G iPod Video to work just fine.

Please someone help!

To answer the case question, I use the Agent 18 case, and sometimes a Samsonite Skin (silicone) and it fits fine, the Samsonite cases still let me dock it to my girlfriend's iHome iH5.

[sparx]

HOLY **** I almost did a back flip when I got it to work. It takes a little getting use to the timing of the whole by-pass but once you get it it works every time. THANKS AGAIN!

30gb video - pioneer deh3800p head w/ controller.

[sparx]

HOLY **** I almost did a back flip when I got it to work. It takes a little getting use to the timing of the whole by-pass but once you get it it works every time. THANKS AGAIN!

30gb video - pioneer deh3800p head w/ controller.

[jp76]

Does anyone else have the problem with the iPod continuing to play when you shut off the HU?

I've noticed that both my iPod's (5g and 5.5G 30Gb) with firmware 1.2 and higher will continue to play for a minute or two even though the HU is off. I like just using the HU controls and I'd like to not have to manually shutdown the iPod everytime I turn off the HU.

[camaro322hp]

Thankfully, after about an hour of frantic fiddling with the iPod and my Pioneer head unit, I've found a way that reliably allows me to control the iPod using the clickwheel while attached to my head unit with the recent 1.2 firmware upgrade installed on the iPod.

The trick is to have the iPod turned on and at the same time as you plug in the Pioneer controller plug, hold down the play/pause button. If all goes well, the Pioneer screen might come up on the iPod briefly but then it should go to sleep. Press any button again and voila, you should have full control of the iPod again while still hooked up to the head unit.

Whew!!!

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead. Just wanted to confirm that this method works fine with my 5.5G 80GB running firmware 1.2.1, with the DEH-P9800BT & iB100II.

Thanks pedrof!

[jas0nt]

using an ipod 1.2.1 and i cannot seem to control it from the ipod.

i have done the following:

- ipod off
- hold play/pause
- plug in cable
it comes up with tick and it stays there and doesn't allow me to control it.

any suggestions?

[Phi Kai]

I have a 3G with firmware 2.3 I am unable to get this trick to work...any thoughts? maybe a different firmware version?

My girlfriend has a Video Ipod with Frimware 1.2.1 and it works great...

anyone able to help?

[swegs]

this thread is awsome. i found the original work around with letting the ipod turning itself a long time ago. i never updated my ipod firmware because i didnt want to mess up my work around then about 2 weeks ago i accidentally clicked yes to the update when itunes started up and i havent been able to control it on my ipod since. im just glad someone found a new work around.

great work guys keep it up