Machined Aluminum Hard Case For My Shuffle

[helixipod]

I've had my Shuffle for a couple weeks now and I've been carrying it around with me in my pocket. I love it and use it more than my 4th Gen 40GB.

I couldn't find any Shuffle hard cases available yet, but I wanted to protect it so I just made my own. I CNC machined it out of aluminum this weekend. See for yourself...

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Hey guys! A quick update here... as of Feb. 10th...

Additional cases are now being made.
I am working my tail off to try to get the very first shipments out the door!

If you are interested in buying one, email me here at XAXIS @ COX.NET (xaxis@cox.net).
I'll add you to the list and let you know when they become available. They will be sold on a first come, first served basis for a while.

Pricing still remains undetermined, but I will post a webpage with additional info, pics, and pricing in the coming days.

For those that haven't seen my full size iPod cases, here's a link to a page with 3 pics of the 3G version that I did last summer...

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PICS OF ONE OF MY FULL SIZE IPOD CASES. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

I will post pics of the 4G version as soon as I get a chance. These styles are being made as well!

Thanks to everyone for the wonderful comments and continued support!

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Latest Update... Feb. 11th, 2005

Getting closer... the patent process has begun.
The initial website is just about ready to go.
I registered 10 domain names last night.

Still lots to do, but I'm making some serious headway.

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Another quick update here... as of Feb. 14th...


Well everybody, I've made some headway on these cases over the weekend. I spent all day at my buddy's shop on Saturday working to get his shop producing them as well. He is at least as meticulous as I am about the quality, so I have no concerns there.

I also met with another friend that owns a major mfg. enterprise on Friday as well. They've got several facilities and tons of resources to draw from. They will be helping out to get the other models rolling as well.

Of course, I'm covering my bases with signed, non-disclosure (confidentiality) agreements in place, as well as the patent process that was already started during the week. I'm pretty familiar with this whole process as I do it at work all the time. I am a design engineer by trade (my day job) and develop products for a global action sports / lifestyle brand that does $600 million in sales / year, worldwide. I'm no stranger to the product development process so this is not too big a stretch for me.

I am trying to keep the price as low as possible.
I think you all will be pleasantly surprised.
It will be quite a great deal for the product you are getting.

I would like to say that I am just completely overwhelmed by the show of support here. All you guys (and gals!) are great. It's because of you and your comments that things have come this far.

Wow, I still have tons to do and many things still to consider, but I am very passionate about my work. You can expect my efforts to be just as great as the cases themselves.

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Latest update here... as of Mar. 2nd...

Cases for all models (except Gen 1 & Gen 2) will be available.
I’ve already made about 20 more prototype samples and have anodized them in a variety of colors (I’ll try to post pics soon). They all look great!
As for pricing, it will definitely be under $40… maybe under $30. It all depends on the level of distribution (which dictates the quantities that are being produced as well as the manufacturing costs).

I’m sorry if this hasn’t moved as quickly as some would like to see, but it is happening and the cases will be available very soon. Also, I do have several other ideas to address the various concerns expressed by some in regards to lanyards, usb access, laser etchings/engravings, finishes, etc. Believe me, I have already thought about all of these. Remember, I have already been using my Shuffle case every day for more then 3 weeks and my full-size iPod case since last summer. There are numerous possibilities and you guys will see some exciting stuff from me soon.

In the meantime, anyone interested in my cases can continue to email all inquiries to…
XAXIS @ COX.NET (xaxis@cox.net)

Thanks!

[non_zero]

That's pretty impressive. What's CNC?

[ham_man]

That is very impressive and one of the nicer things that I have seen made for any iPod. Great job...

-Andrew

[helixipod]

CNC stands for "Computer Numerical Control".
I made it on a CNC milling machine.

So you can probably see that it doesn't use the plastic cap anymore... which I figured would just get lost or broken before long anyway. The front and back half of the case are joined together by 4 very small screws. I have no need to take it out of the case anymore. The headphones come in from the top, USB from the bottom, and there is also a window on the back for the on/off/shuffle slider and battery button. It is lined on the front, back, top, bottom, and sides with black velvet.

Now it won't get damaged by the other random things I seem to collect in my pocket throughout the day!

I'm set, now I just need to get it anodized some cool color... maybe black or red.

Here is a pic with the USB cable attached...

[non_zero]

Dude, you could totally sell those things. They look completely professional.

[archurban]

why don't you show me the back?

I want to see how you made for control toggle of the back. so the case covers usb thumb to connect. but without extended cable, it can't be used, right?

if you have a powerbook, how you can hook it up without usb cable? well, it's not big deal. but if I were you, I don't want to carry usb extension cable all the time. just hook it up with usb 2 port directly.

[re:load]

I would totally buy one of these! Woudl you consider making and selling few?

[zip22]

sweet. i think one where the shuffle would fit inside with the usb cap would be cool. kinda like the armour cases with a hinge on the bottom. thats what im looking for.

but yours is really nice. how long did it take you?

[TPinSD]

Hey, that thing is AWESOME!!!! Seriously, you could make a BUNDLE on those!!! Great design - I want one!

[helixipod]

Here's a pic of the back...

[screw]

if you dun mind, i'd like to give it a shot at my workshop too.... u mind sharing your dwgs? :)

I'd like to try purple anodize.

[enjoilax]

The OP is the pinnacle of cool now.

i suggest to the OP to not give away any drawings, plans and market this idea to several companies.

[screw]

Originally posted by enjoilax
The OP is the pinnacle of cool now.

i suggest to the OP to not give away any drawings, plans and market this idea to several companies.

think u're right... Maybe we can try to make our own case and post the pics here?.. wish me luck :P

helixipod, may i suggest texturing the surface (maybe glassbeads or EDM) before anodize? That would make it cooler... bit expensive though.

[Gunslinger]

Dude, wanna sell one? How Much?
plus could you put like a pivoting rectangular loop in the bottom over the USB port so you could put a chain through it to wear around your neck. then if you wanted to use the USB it would swing left or right to be out of the way of the cable.

P.S. What do you guys think about doing powder coating for differnet colors.

[MorganB]

Helix, that rules! How about a model with a couple of holes in the side for the lanyard? I want one and would be willing to pay for one. You should market it. How heavy is it?

[swissshuffle]

That ROCKS!!!

I want one...name your price.

It would be cool to have an apple logo laser etched on it.

[wstanley]

Very impressive and cool. Start slapping copyright on your photos and think about trademark/patent. Don't know how much it costs to make and therefore whether business types would think it to be worth mass producing, but I'd bet there is a niche market for "designer" cases (custom etching, etc.) that might make it a worthwhile hobby.

[Tomo_kun]

Wow, a case for the shuffle always seemd sort of odd to me, but THIS changed my mind!

[helixipod]

In reply to MorganB's question...
How heavy is it?

Well, the Shuffle itself weighs 22 grams.
My case with the Shuffle inside weighs 42 grams, so it adds 20 grams.

The total weight (42 grams) is still only about 1 1/2 ounces (just under actually at 1.48 ounces)... almost nothing. As you know, the Shuffle itself is so lightweight it doesn't even make for a good paperweight!

[BigFil]

That is sweet man. Funny thing is i'd be more worried about scratching that awesome case than the white plastic.

[GadgetGuru72]

I have to join the ranks and congratulate you on that AWESOME case. I can't believe how amazing that thing looks. You should definitely sell those -- you'd make a fortune.

[helixipod]

Once it's anodized a color, it will have a much harder surface.
It will be MUCH more resistant to abrasion than raw aluminum, not to mention plastic.

[dubweiser]

Nice case man...very professional looking

[sparkky]

I'd like one too. How much?

[godeacs06]

I'm interested in one as well. What would be the price?

[andretan]

I would be interested in one too. :)

[J400uk]

Thats a really cool case, better than most the other rubbish. Why not make a dozen or so more and bundle them with a cheapo usb extension cable and sell them?

[Mina]

I really do think you could make a small fortune from selling those cases. I don't even have an ipod shuffle and i want one!

Mina.

[AndyH]

Beautiful case...fantastic job!

[MikeM]

WOW!!!!

[swissshuffle]

HELIX,

It is clear you got customers, now what are you waiting for...:D

Start production...because I WANT ONE...hehe

How's 50 US to make me one???

:)

SwissShuffle

p.s. Is the case etchable too engrave something on it?

[Fenwick]

wait, why cant i click on attachments? can someone host the images on tinypic.com and email them to me? thanks.

[zip22]

were you signed on when you couldnt see the images? i can load them fine

[Fenwick]

Originally posted by Fenwick
wait, why cant i click on attachments? can someone host the images on tinypic.com and email them to me? thanks. no, I'm definitely signed on. OOPS i forgot i'm using firefox sorry.

Well i am using I E and its not working now =P


SOMEONE PLEEEASE POST A URL!!!!

[Zombie Inc]

Nice job really awesome work. Seems to be a 10 out of ten to me. I would be interested in one.

So when is the iPodlounge review comming out?:D

[mikeknotmikey]

Your case for the shuffle is beautiful. If you ever take orders, let me know.
Michael in York,PA maknaub@suscom.net

[-James]

Oh my god. That is outstandingly brilliant. People would definately buy those things.

[PittHockey]

How much for that? :D

[theyangster]

How bout expanding your product line to mini's and ipods =P
Seriously, you need to start selling these....
Nice work though
I'll be a business partner jk :) i wish i could

[mrwright613]

ok, so i know like a billion people have said it already, but i just gotta say, THAT IS AN AWESOME CASE. I'm gettin a shuffle pretty soon and I've been thinking about a case, and this one blows apple's out of the water. i want one

[PJ920]

Count me in for 1,maybe 2!

[helixipod]

In reply to theyangster's question...
How bout expanding your product line to mini's and ipods?

I'm way ahead of you.
I already made one last summer for my 3G 20GB.
And I gotta say, it is FAR cooler looking than my Shuffle case!
... maybe I'll post some pics.

I'm now working on one for my 4G 40GB.

[wezman2k]

Originally posted by helixipod
In reply to theyangster's question...


I'm way ahead of you.
I already made one last summer for my 3G 20GB.
And I gotta say, it is FAR cooler looking than my Shuffle case!
... maybe I'll post some pics.

I'm now working on one for my 4G 40GB.

oh....my god...i've gotta see it! an all metal case would be ####.

[zip22]

was your other case something like this:


http://homepage.mac.com/sideriver/cubesite/ipodcase/ipodcase.html

hehehe

[-James]

Nice one mate, you made it onto the front page of the site!

http://www.ipodlounge.com/ipodnews_comments.php?id=6361_0_7_0_C

You made one for your 3G? Cool. Post some pics if you can.

[Joshdude]

So cool...

[helixipod]

Wow that thing is massive. It must be pretty heavy.

No, my machined case is much lighter weight (portable) and does not have sharp edges like that. Also my case has thin, internal foam padding to cushion the iPod and avoid scratches. I'm sure that one would likely scratch the iPod pretty good with all of metal's machining marks in direct contact with the iPods' plastic surface.

Here's a few pics of the one i made last summer... for my 3G.
My 4G version is in the works!

Enjoy...

[Joshdude]

Oh my god that is stunning. I want one.....
*drools*

[helixipod]

The backside...

[zip22]

jesus man, you really could start a nice business for yourself. these cases are the nicest i have ever seen.

[helixipod]

The perforated version... and yes, the foam padding is perforated as well, so it's still protected internally...

[MorganB]

Helix, you sure are being coy with your goodies. So give it to us straight, is there a possibility you will sell the case or are these custom one offs? If you look at the order people asked for them I would be 4th in line :) hint hint :)

[JohnB79]

If you are selling them let me know I'll buy 2

[enjoilax]

Oh god, please i want ... so bad... GAH!

[helixipod]

Well MorganB,

This thread has been brought to the attention of the Founder of iPodlounge (Dennis Lloyd). He and I have discussed some possibilities of how I should handle this. I'll have to get back to you on that topic. But I will tell you that something is in the works. It will happen. Dennis has vowed to help me protect this concept and these designs.

[Doug Gilmour]

Very nice cases! How many of these have you made, and when did you start with them? Very sleek, and much nicer than those cheap plastic ones.

-Dan

[Joshdude]

If you don't end up selling these, I will have to steal yours.

Um, by the way, what's your address? I, um, need to deliver those girl scout cookies you ordered.

[zip22]

Originally posted by helixipod
Well MorganB,

This thread has been brought to the attention of the Founder of iPodlounge (Dennis Lloyd). He and I have discussed some possibilities of how I should handle this. I'll have to get back to you on that topic. But I will tell you that something is in the works. It will happen. Dennis has vowed to help me protect this concept and these designs.

exellent. im glad it is being taken care of in a proper manner. keep us informed. you have a huge community here to support you, and your designs are obviously awesome.

[hbmartin]

"You so totally rock dude!"

I'd like to buy the 3G version. Sign me up on the long lost of future customers ;)

[[zerophase]]

dude that thing is sick!

[drewnamis]

OMG that is so hottt!!!!1111!!!!1!!one! If you sell those, please do let me know.

[enjoilax]

Originally posted by Joshdude
If you don't end up selling these, I will have to steal yours.

Um, by the way, what's your address? I, um, need to deliver those girl scout cookies you ordered.

Yes. Girl scout cookies....

Originally posted by helixipod
Well MorganB,

This thread has been brought to the attention of the Founder of iPodlounge (Dennis Lloyd). He and I have discussed some possibilities of how I should handle this. I'll have to get back to you on that topic. But I will tell you that something is in the works. It will happen. Dennis has vowed to help me protect this concept and these designs.

IPODLOUNGE CASES???

You have to make one for every generation. HAVE TO. Or else i will uh... do absolutely nothing...:confused:.

[MorganB]

Originally posted by helixipod
Well MorganB,

This thread has been brought to the attention of the Founder of iPodlounge (Dennis Lloyd). He and I have discussed some possibilities of how I should handle this. I'll have to get back to you on that topic. But I will tell you that something is in the works. It will happen. Dennis has vowed to help me protect this concept and these designs.

Thanks Helix. You really have an excellent product. Glad you are working with Dennis Lloyd to get your designs protected. I wish you the best with your possible new venture!

[dcmacnut]

Helix, I must say job well done. When I saw the post on the main Lounge site, I will admit that I originally thought it looked strikingly similar to the the "Made in Japan" machined iPod photo case the Lounge posted on Jan 28 (pics and link posted earlier). However, your version is way better than his. You give full access to the remote port and hold switch on your 3G one, he only made room for a headphone. And you, as you pointed out, provide better interior scratch protection to boot. Excellent work.

[helixipod]

This evening is the 1st time I had seen that other one.
I made my 3G case last summer before the 4G came out.
I've kept it under wraps until today. Only a few of my friends had seen it.

[FarSight010]

Hey, if you ever make a 4G model count me in.

[kloan]

Very nice!! I'd buy a shuffle just for the case!

Just affirms my opinion that Apple should ditch the white and start making iPods with aluminum enclosures... or at least offer them in white, black and aluminum. :)

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by kloan
Very nice!! I'd buy a shuffle just for the case!

Just affirms my opinion that Apple should ditch the white and start making iPods with aluminum enclosures... or at least offer them in white, black and aluminum. :)

You should give this (http://thinksecret.com/news/0501briefly2.html) a read. I would not be surprised if this rumor is true. Think Secret is by far the most reliable Apple rumor source and is right 99% of the time as well..

After seeing how an iPod could with that colour scheme, matching the infamous silver/aluminum of the PowerBook, Power Mac, and Mac mini, I think I like it!

-Dan

[lilrooboy]

Wow! it looks way slick :D gotta have me one of these!! nice work ;)

[JMF0]

AWESOME!

Keep us in the loop on the possibility of getting these for the Shuffle and the regular iPod.....I have cash standing by!

jeff

[wstanley]

Seriously, I would go out and buy a Shuffle to drop it in one of those cases. Way more nifty than my Rio Cali. Put me on the list.

[kloan]

Originally posted by Doug Gilmour
You should give this (http://thinksecret.com/news/0501briefly2.html) a read. I would not be surprised if this rumor is true. Think Secret is by far the most reliable Apple rumor source and is right 99% of the time as well..

After seeing how an iPod could with that colour scheme, matching the infamous silver/aluminum of the PowerBook, Power Mac, and Mac mini, I think I like it!

-Dan
Interesting, although he compared it to the Mac mini yet the mini is white! But.. I'll let that one go.. :)

EDIT: oh, wait a minute.. they're white AND aluminum.. huh, i never noticed that before..

[kayle12]

Wow! Stunning, that's all I have to say!!

I want one :D

That would be awesome to partner with iPodlounge and have the logo on the back of it! I would buy a 4th Gen 40GB one.

Hope it works out well.

It's totally awesome!!

Kayle

[Justin Horne]

Originally posted by kloan
Interesting, although he compared it to the Mac mini yet the mini is white! But.. I'll let that one go.. :)
Well, kinda.. The top is white-ish, the sides are aluminum.

[Prudence]

Sign me up on a list of future 3G customers. That looks like such an awesome case!

[kajGuy]

I have to have one. for the 4g 40gig. iits so hot~ been looking for a cool case.

[mpeng168]

and all this time I was happy with my Altoids tin! Put me down for one please. Thanks!

I'll have to protect that nice shiney case and put it in the altoids tin lined with felt!:D

[theyangster]

O man the curves...the curves....That case is beautiful!.....

I wish i had the time and money for this stuff.... :(
I'll gladly "donate" money for your new company for a little favor in return =P
jk

[justblaize]

I want one and i dont even have a shuffle :)

[helixipod]

First off I'd like to say thanks for all of the positive comments on my cases. I wasn't expecting such a response... I was just "showing off" my cool new case. :D ...Thanks Guys!

Well, this IS gonna happen. I spent about 30 minutes on the phone with this website's Founder & Publisher Dennis Lloyd, this evening... very cool guy by the way. He is fully supportive of this endeavor. He's just as stoked about the cases as you guys are!

He even told me that he'd help protect these concepts/designs by refusing any write ups or editorials and shunning any knock-off products. He also mentioned iPodlounge's new Anti-Cloning policy....

Here's a few excerpts... the short & sweet version...
"Cloning of iPod Accessories by Knock-Off Makers"

A number of iPod accessory innovations are directly attributable to specific companies, with designs so distinctive that any informed person would recognize their "look and feel" as one company's innovation. But recently, knock-off manufacturers have been cloning some of these distinctive designs, dramatically reducing the quality of materials used in the original products.

We do not want to help knock-off artists profit at the expense of companies that have expended time and effort in the design of original, quality iPod accessories.

Starting immediately, iPodlounge's policy on cloned iPod accessories is as follows:

(1) For purposes of this policy, a "clone" is any product that conspicuously duplicates the overall look and feel of a directly competing product.

(2) iPodlounge reserves the right to deny editorial coverage and/or advertising space to any company that sells cloned products.

(3) Any vendor that believes its product has been cloned may request that iPodlounge not provide editorial coverage of the cloned product. Please contact Dennis Lloyd (dennisl@ipodlounge.com) with any such request.

(4) This policy is not retroactive and will only cover products first sold on or after February 1, 2005.

That's cool. It will really help out as I figure out how to make a bunch of these as quickly as I can for you guys (they take 20+ minutes each to make!!). In the coming days, I will put together a simple webpage with more info and details on the cases. I will also have a "add to mailing list" link to allow you guys to get on the list to buy one (they will be 1st come, 1st served). Also, you can email me directly at XAXIS @ COX.NET (xaxis@cox.net) and I'll put you down on a list and keep you informed of my progress and let you know when they start becoming available.

I don't have a set price in mind yet, but they will not be cheap. As they are each milled from 2 solid pieces of aluminum, they are significantly more expensive to produce than the other stamped sheet metal or injection molded cases that are currently on the market. It takes a while to machine away all that aluminum, not to mention drilling the 314 holes as seen on the full size iPod case shown here on page 4...

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PICS OF THE FULL SIZE iPOD CASE. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

Thanks again for the support guys. You'll here more from me soon!

[swy32x]

Man, that is insanely awesome. Wow.

They are absolutely elite.

Has anybody made comments on them before?

[JohnB79]

Helix,

If your intrestead maybe you should get a patent lawyer. My uncle was one for years but he might do something for old times sake... if not you probably can just look for one online or whatnot but you should file fast because others are probably looking at the pics... actually as much as I would hate to say it I think you should pull the pics now to prevent anyone else getting a look at until you are ready to start shipping and open up a 2nd email address just for this instead of sending all to your primary email.

Just some advice from someone who is drooling to get their hands on one... you may have the hottest desigin for a iPod case EVER

[melsmusic]

I agree I would definitely get the photos off the forum quick. Everyone will want one when they see them ... after you have worked out production, costs, etc etc.

It would be a shame to have such a brilliant design handcrafted by yourself stolen by someone else.

Good luck with it. Don't have a shuffle but ordered one for my son for his birthday. He would love that case.

I have a mini .. any cool designs coming out for that.

[Jackus]

Thats amazing man.

I would so buy one of them.. :)

[smorzander]

OH MY GOD! those are so HOT! i am going to have to buy a 4th gen now. so i can use the case. man you hit the jackpot! but you deserve it because you are so creative (not "creative" like that crappy apple wannabe company but creative like talented" you should sell them for $30-$40. AND NOTE TO ALL IPOD OWNERS: if someone come out with a case like this before helixipod, BOYCOTT IT! helixipod deserves all the credit/fame/money. ROCK ON DUDE!
*I see a large amount of money in the near future*

[raelx]

Wow very cool work helix.

For everyone itching to get one of these you need to prepare yourself for a case costing $100-$200. Machine time ($100+/hr) and material is not cheap, plating will also add to the cost. And i'm sure Helix isn't going to work for free.

Helix I'm not sure what region you are in but if you need help finding an anodizer I have a few we deal with that should be reasonable, I think you could do something for about $100/lot.

You appear to have the machining side of things under control.

For the ventilated version might I recommend ditching the holes (they will fill with dirt, won't move much heat, and are time consuming to drill and deburr). How about a thermaly conductive sillicon rubber on the back side. This will pull the heat off the iPod case and keep the back flat. Somehting like this. (http://vendor.parker.com/Groups/Seal/Divisions/Chomerics/Chomerics%20Product%20Library.nsf/03b5a0e5b0d32dc68525695800745d0b/1afb5107a6e7e958852569580073dd58/$FILE/TB%2070.pdf) I would recommend the A174 in maybe 1.8mm thick. It is even self adhesive on one side.

For finishes I'll second someone elses suggestion for glassbead then anodize. You might look at electroless nickel too if you want a mirror finish that won't oxidize.

Private message me if you have any questions.

[Provboy]

wow helixipod you're about to get richer. congratulations

[drifting]

Wow! Great cases. And two days from 'look at the keen thing I came up with' to 'they like me they really like me' to 'maybe I need a patent lawyer and a business plan'. Awesome. Don't you just love the internet!

[Tye]

When you are ready to sell them I'll take one of each! :D

I don't relly care what they cost, must have them! :cool:

[Operator99]

Excellent work. Add me to the shuffle list!

[lerkaile]

Hey I'm writing from Singapore after someone posted about the article on Mac User Group (Singapore).

I must say i'm blown away! I just got my CNY takings and will get a shuffle soon. I hope things work out for you man! Looking forward to more good news.

Cheers,
Wilfred

[Raptork]

Helix, your cases are sizzling!!! Your preliminary price quote is fine!! Your case is a work of art!! I'll take a shuffle and a 4G!!! :-)

[akaak]

Hi Helix - I emailed you to put me on your list. I want one for my iPOD Shuffle 512. Let me know how much to send you. Do you take Paypal?

Thanks alot!

Jia

[GigaRoc]

Can i get one for the suffle, and one for the 4G iPod?

[dewarner]

This looks like an incredibly well designed case for the iPod shuffle. Is there a waiting list to get on?

Thanks -

[icookie]

That is the best looking case I've seen. I would like 2.

4th Gen iPod 20g & iPod Shuffle 512MB

[pelechati]

You should sell it on eBay there would be no distribution costs and you would get quite an amount for those. God you could quit your day job with that sexy case.

[eddiemillz]

helix, please tell me your going to make one of these for the 20 gb ipod. if so please email me with prices

DESTRUCTIONDEVIL@aol.com

thanks

[AndyH]

Originally posted by dewarner
This looks like an incredibly well designed case for the iPod shuffle. Is there a waiting list to get on?

Thanks -
E-mail him:
xaxis AT cox DOT net

[GadgetGuru72]

Unbelievable! This thread, as of this moment, has 19,497 views. I'm sure some of those are repeat views by the same people, but I'd this certainly indicates the serious amount of cash you'd make if you started selling these.

If I were you I'd get this idea patented as soon as humanly possible before somebody else steals the idea.

[Zombie Inc]

So when is the iPodlounge review comming out?:D
still waiting;)
PS: When you will mention the prices, il buy one for my shuffle and one for my 3g

[kpjimmy]

I'll take one off yer hands! For a 3gen model, 10GB.

Cheers on the beauty of a design helix!

[J-ENGINE]

Just my 2cents: Wonderful design eye you have.
I wish you the best of luck in your future endevors.

J-ENGINE

[earache30]

hey great job - one constructive criticism - please use nicer screws - they look a little rough compared to the cases - maybe brushed aluminum

and then sign me up for one :-)

[iLounger]

Wow, so how cool is this? The iPod community showing such great support for a job well done. Fantastic. Let's help Helixipod protect his case design, be vigilant to any wannabe clones. Also if you see his case photos being spread across the web or see his story pop up on the radar let us know. Thanks.

[Zombie Inc]

Roger that Chief!;) (but it seems weird to see a lot of 1 post members on this thread...)

[kpjimmy]

Duly noted! I am a fiend with accessories, so I will have my eyes peeled!

Cheers!:D


Originally posted by iPodlounger
Wow, so how cool is this? The iPod community showing such great support for a job well done. Fantastic. Let's help Helixipod protect his case design, be vigilant to any wannabe clones. Also if you see his case photos being spread across the web or see his story pop up on the radar let us know. Thanks.

[kpjimmy]

Well I myself included saw the ishuffle case shown by Gizmodo giving the props to ipodlounge/helix with this classy design. So I believe people who read Gizmodo will hit the link over to lounge for the very first time. Welcome ishufflers! hehe...

Originally posted by Zombie Inc
Roger that Chief!;) (but it seems weird to see a lot of 1 post members on this thread...)

[helixipod]

This IS happening. The cases will be produced.

I am receiving the raw aluminum material today for the 1st short production run of these cases.

I'll be quite busy for a while so please be patient with me and my replies to your inquiries. All requests are being documented in the order in which they are received.

See my reply with some of yesterday's developments here on page 6 of this thread... CLICK HERE. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=6)

A simple website with more info will be up within a few days.

There is a mailing list to join here... XAXIS @ COX.NET (xaxis@cox.net). Send me an email if your interested in one of these cases.

If you're looking for the pics of the full size iPod case, they are here on page 4 of this thread...

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PICS. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

Thanks for the support everyone!... more updates to follow.

[Zombie Inc]

ok I took note, kpjimmy. Thanks for the update Helixipod, just one question what are the prices for the 3G and The Shuffle?

[honeybee1236]

Great job on the cases. i really like them. I have already E-mailed you my order.

[helixipod]

This IS happening. The cases will be produced.
I am receiving the raw aluminum material today for the 1st short production run of these cases.
I'll be quite busy for a while so please be patient with me and my replies to your inquiries. All requests are being documented in the order in which they are received.

See my reply with some of yesterday's developments here on page 6 of this thread... CLICK HERE. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=6)

A simple website with more info will be up within a few days.

There is a mailing list to join here... XAXIS @ COX.NET (xaxis@cox.net). Send me an email if your interested in one of these cases.

If you're looking for the pics of the full size iPod case, they are here on page 4 of this thread...
CLICK HERE TO SEE THE PICS. (http://forums.ipodlounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74274&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

Thanks for the support everyone!... more updates to follow.

[suckacheese]

My only suggestion -- use hex or torx cap screws (countersunk, of course) instead of Phillips. They would look more in keeping with the overall design and you don't run the risk of putting a big nasty scratch in your finish with a sharp screwdriver.

[Bob]

In the space of just over 6 hours this thread has had close to 15,000 views - it's up 29,002 as I post!!!!

Now where is my cheque book....:D

[stinkiedmb]

salivating over the 3g perforated version......

pending pricing, i just might spring for one! :)

[theyangster]

Originally posted by suckacheese
My only suggestion -- use hex or torx cap screws (countersunk, of course) instead of Phillips. They would look more in keeping with the overall design and you don't run the risk of putting a big nasty scratch in your finish with a sharp screwdriver.

Then how would us normal ppl get it open?.... :D
it's not a bad idea but it needs to functional at the same time.
maybe you could offer both :)
Can I be a "product tester"? :D
jk...(wow i've made too many jokes....:rolleyes: )

[zip22]

any ideas on pricing? i would like to know a rough idea or range before i commit to an order.

as long as everyone else is spouting out ideas, i think a good idea would be to only use 1 screw in the center at the bottom (USB end). at the top, have a tab in the front section that fits into a groove on the back side. then just the 1 screw center in the bottom to secure.

[zip22]

like this at the top end

[sonyman]

I just bought a ipod armor case, but man, those cases are supper sweet, i just sent you my order , and i also think a Hex screw would look better, all you need to do is add a alen key with the package for ppl that dont have one at home. like i asked in my email, the only thing im concerned with is the heat build up when charging your ipod, apple says you should take it out of the case when charging, will the aluminum body dissipate the heat? or would i have to take it out everytime ? :(

[zip22]

also incase you dont know, you're on the front pages of dapreview and gizmodo

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/ipod/aluminum-ipod-shuffle-case-032536.php

http://dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.1041

gizmodo says its brushed aluminum. i dont see how they get that. the finish is more CNCed aluminum. you can see the slight grooves.

[JustinHermary]

for the shuffle version, how do u plug it in, do u hav to take it out, or does it like slide to the bottom and stick out or what???

[JustinHermary]

nevermind i saw the second pic

oops:p

[Darksev]

amazing, both are just amazing. If you plan on doing one for the mini, you have one customer right here.

[Veasey]

these cases are sexy

i have an idea....
machine an ipod shuffle dock that is obviously all metal and that matches the case. so you could plug the case (and shuffle) directly into the dock.

[The Basil]

Dude. You are a demi-god. That stuff owns my life.
If i had the cash and IF you made one, id get it for the mini :)

Good Job.

[signumnx]

I'm sure iPod photo users are left out of the loop. :(

[Joshdude]

This is so exciting!
I'm thinking of doing something similar to you, that is, starting an iPod service type dealy. I'm working on getting the remote into a backpack strap. Not perfect as of yet...

[Raptork]

Helix,

Congrats!! You made Gizmodo Technology Weblog!!! As stated before, I really want a shuttle case!! Case is HOT!!!

[swissshuffle]

Originally posted by MorganB
Helix, you sure are being coy with your goodies. So give it to us straight, is there a possibility you will sell the case or are these custom one offs? If you look at the order people asked for them I would be 4th in line :) hint hint :)

I am 5th in line.....:)

[Cdammen]

Make me one of these... for my mini, I'll pay good money. He he... :)

[encoder]

Nice try... but way too big and expensive.

Here is a better solution (http://homepage.mac.com/handig/silvershuffle)!

Pro: you can do it yourself and it is (and looks) really cheap!

Cons: it looks (and is) really cheap and you have to do it yourself!

[Piarco75]

Is it weird that seeing Helixpods finished article made me buy a Shuffle?:D
Once production is ramped up after the expected initial success, I'll definately be after one... they do have a certain, ahem, "bling-ness" to them!
Just my option though, but I'd kinda see one for the mini as redundant as they already are made from aluminium...
Still I may change my mind if a prototype was made! I think its absolutely awesome the responce that has been generated because of this thread, and I really hope that you have the designs/concept legally bound - I'd hate to see one of the big companies taking your hard work and running with it.

[patrickd5]

helixipod

Here's a name for those case '' ZIPPOD '' as in ZIPPO ....the fire Box...

[cswi9367]

WOW> i cant believe it. its almost identical to the one i made for myself, except i made mine out of titanium. aluminum would be easier even. mine has a few small changes to it, but almost the same. amazing whta people in these machine shops do for their ipod.

[GadgetGuru72]

I don't own a shuffle and I'm more than happy with my iSee for my 4g. However, I'm still very drawn to this thread and this case. It is phenominal looking. Depending on what you charge and whether you end up making them for the 40GB 4g, I may buy one too. With how long your wait list is, though, I suspect I won't get one until 2008. ;)

[helixipod]

Actually, if you can even believe this...

I may begin shipping some of the 1st units by the end of next week!

How's that for fast?!

I'm making a couple hundred of them in this first run which will satisy the requests I've received thus far.

[patrickd5]

Great i would like one ZIPPOD for my Shuffle please

[Mina]

I own a 4g and would love to see your take on a case for it. Post it up asap! :) Great work on the cases you've designed already.

Mina.

[mtnagel]

Did I miss the price? I think I've read the whole thing. I think it looks great, but kind of kills the lightness of it. If it doubles the weight, I could have just gotten a Sandisk one with an FM tuner, screen, and replaceable battery for $10-20 cheaper than the 1 gig Shuffle. But I was just blown away by the size/weight of this thing.

[JohnBlaze]

I still don't know how much these cases will cost? Would like to know before ordering. Thanks!!

[helixipod]

Hey guys... another quick update....

I'm super busy trying to make these cases happen for everyone, so bear with me.

My wife is going through everyone's emails and sending a quick reply.

Pricing is still undetermined.
I'm trying to nail that down now... lots of factors involved.

I will post a website in the coming days with more information, a few more pics, and pricing.

Thanks for your continued support, everyone!

[signumnx]

Will there be a case for 4G and photo?

[-James]

I wish you luck, sounds like these cases are going to be a huge success!

[Stretch]

I love your case, hoping to get one for my 4th Gen 20GB iPod. I was wondering something though. I use my iTrip alot, everyday, and i must have a case that will let me use that, while letting it stay in the case. Would it be possible to make a case that would let you use the iPod and iTrip together?

Also what about making a dock cover that you can put on the iPod dock, without the white cover, so you can put that in the dock, with the case on.

[Blue Dog]

I want one for a 4G 40gb, a mini (if you make those too) and a shuffle. I'll buy a shuffle just to put it in one of those cases!!! Sweet thinking. Seriously, no matter how much within reason, and I'm unreasonable.

[Quiksilver]

I must say I am impressed with the product. So much so that it caused me to actually join the lounge forum. I do not have an iPod yet, but it is going to get ordered this weekend, a 4G 20 gig. Needless to say I am extremely excited and your case looks to be the perfect case for me (I like the "metal-look" and you don't get a more "metal-look" than the real deal). I await the final pricing before I make my decision.

Also I found this site very helpful in making my decision to make the plunge into owning an iPod.

Thanks,
Sam

[JustinHermary]

you should start a small business. you will make so much money. i will definately buy one for my mini (when i buy it).

[ford6]

:D Dude , Get a patent for that thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dino]

You have made the best case I've ever seen. I might get one, depending on the price. I wish good luck to you. :) :) :) :)

[mongoos150]

Absolutely beautiful cases - the perforated one reminds me of a PowerPC G5 case. Gorgeous!

[AManInJapan]

I love how ipodlounge just owned you by putting their logo on your pictures

[helixipod]

It doesn't bother me a bit.

The founder of ipodlounge is a great guy and has been supporting my efforts 100%.

He will get case # 1 (actually #2,... my Shuffle already has first dibs on #1 .:D ).

[FiReCaLiBuRn]

You should anno it white so the select few will get it to match. What colors do you plan on making if any others helix?

[ZeroAX]

Any chance of a 20GB 4G version?

[cswi9367]

patents are 10K + . plus the costs of a patent lawyer.

[FarSight010]

Originally posted by ZeroAX
Any chance of a 20GB 4G version?

Yes, any chance of a 20GB 4G version? I already posted with this idea, but I forgot to indicate 20GB capacity. Anyway, it would be great...

[SWiTCH]

Originally posted by cswi9367
patents are 10K + . plus the costs of a patent lawyer.

Actually thats not correct. Actually APPLYING for the patent is not that expensive (the actual filing fee). Where things run up really quickly is paying the attorney fees. A few years back I spent over 20k trying to patent something and ended up having to do almost all my own paperwork and research and just had the attorney doing the filing work. If you pay them to do your patent research for you, it will run past 20k so fast it will make your head spin.

[lilrooboy]

oooh definitely put me down for one of the Shuffle cases please! and possibly a 4G 20Gb ipod one too if possible! :D Just dropped you an email Helixipod!!

[rst]

WOW, that is quite simply amazing! I've dropped you an email! :)

Hope you'll ship one or two to the UK for me! :-)

It looks like an excellent piece of workmanship! Well done. :-)

How long does it take to make?

[coolio]

They do look very nice. Im tempted but the price quoted by the metal expert of over $100 is a bit silly for an item that costs that anyway. Do people really want a case thats as expensive as the item its protecting?

[rst]

is there an estimated price for the shuffle case?

[Raptork]

If the quality is there.....and from the pics and overwhelming response I would say it is, then I would definitely not mind paying the same for the case as I did for the item. I feel it's a definite work of art consistant with the contemporary design of the IPod itself.

I have a question though, Helix, what is the case lined with....anything? Or is it a tight metal against plastic fit??

[highlife]

regarding the shuffle case? any idea where the lanyard is going to go for those of us who r using the shuffle to work out?

[bl0nde]

Hi, firstly I'd just like to add my congratulations for such a well-constructed product. Long time reader at ipodlounge, but this convinced me to become a first time poster...The cases are seriously some of the best I've ever seen. If you make one that can fit an iPod photo, I'll gladly buy one, regardless of the cost. I think it's great that iPodlounge and the whole community have come together to support your venture, and I hope you have every success with this project.

[STomlinson]

Agreed - I'll have one if you make it for the photo (40GB :P )

[*nappyD]

highlife, you can't have the cap on when this case is on

[highlife]

yeah, i see that, but maybe helix can do something about that somehow, i wouldn't know how myself, but it would be cool to be able to use the case along with some kind of lanyard.

Also, congrats to helix for a very well done case

[Ichijoe]

Such as is the simple magic that the little word(s) i Pod brings!

Who eles would waste there time creating this kind of stuff for a Rio Karma? Or some lame Creative Labe POS! That Suffle case is awsome! But, I frear one would need an iCondom protection Case to protect the Case. :D

BTW: forget that Shuffle whats the good word on that 3G Case?!?! That thing is SUPPER TIGHT! Why hasn't anyone eles thought about this! Just add some kind os Screen protection and BAM! you have what is the ultimate Case. Well till you went to Dock it to find that it dosn't fit the Dock and longer...

But with that kind of Protection I wouldn't need the Dock!!

[zapod]

I love aluminium, as a material. I've just stumbled on this thread having just purchased a Shuffle... I just have to have one of those cases... they look absolutely gorgeous! If you don't mind shipping to the UK that is...

[helixipod]

Latest Update... Feb. 11th, 2005

Getting closer... the patent process has begun.
The initial website is just about ready to go.
I registered 10 domain names last night.

Still lots to do, but I'm making some serious headway.

[honeybee1236]

FYI:

Typed in "machined aluminum shuffle case" (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/machined%2Baluminum%2Bshuffle%2Bcase) in the dogpile and quite a few sites came up that have posted this threads info or the article in the news section about this product.

[enjoilax]

Oh yea, i'm down for a 3G 40 gig case.

[JustinHermary]

wow man you are doin great with the site and patent. i bet you didnt think that all this would come from just posting a few cool pics of your home-made ipod cases.

you lucky b*$terd. your goona make quite a bit. once you get well into the ipod case business and things start to slow down, maybe you could start makin cases for other IPOD RELATED stuff. like custom cases that fit the metal cases, the cord could like go under it and come up and be secured in a little clamp. and maybe a thicker case that has a battery pack in it. i dono, but you could do so much.

GOOD LUCK MAN!! i hope you do well, you deserve it!!!

Justin Shumksy
Canada

[alvinray]

perhaps you can design/produce a new shuffle aluminum case model with a removable aluminum USB cap becuse i often use my shuffle as a flash drive at work. thanks!

[Mina]

Still egerly awaiting the 4g case....... :)

Mina.

[kensteele]

I am eagerly awaiting the price. There are lots of great ideas but sometimes they get killed by the price. I sure hope the price is right. :)

[v1q]

i want one for my mini! :D

[Raptork]

please post the web address when it's ready!! :-)

[mijman2]

Call it AlumiPod

What do you think?

[3voices]

for the non-suffle cases, i'd recommend building them so that they can incorporate an iSkin Shade. when you screw the 2 halves of your case together, there'd be a lip to hold in the Shade. i find most people use some sort of screen protection as it protects the most vulnerable part of the iPod, which looking at your 3G picture, your case currently doesn't protect. if someone doesn't have the iSkin Shade - no worries, you're still selling the same product and by no means would your case require users to include a Shade.

just my $.02. i like them a lot, but don't think i'd get one unless there's ~some~ way to protect the screen.

[ianjdavies]

I just found this thread from The Inquirer (http://www.theinquirer.org/?article=21220) - that shuffle case looks incredible! It's actually made me seriously consider buying an iPod shuffle... how mad is that?

I wish you the very best of luck with your venture.

Ian Davies
United Kingdom.

[Bob]

...and $21.49 for this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50607&item=8167528792&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)???

[DarkZero]

The aluminum case looks great. I might consider getting one

[kensteele]

Originally posted by MadPict
...and $21.49 for this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50607&item=8167528792&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)???

That appears to be more of a donation.

[Marro]

Awesome. I need one for a 3rd generation 15GB. Email sent.

[luisev]

That is one really nice case... sign me up for one!!! I just sent ya an email... :D

[whatsupwill]

this is a sweet case for the shuffle, i really want one as i have already put 2 scrachs into my shuffle :( also hides :)

[bingbongbang]

WOW

wow

:D




"you da man"




awwww now i want a shuffle :P

[rst]

any updates.....costs..delivery schedule...

Yours impatient...rst

:)

[helixipod]

Mad Pict,

That quote in your signature is the best I've read in a while...

We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART?... too funny, man!


Well everybody, I've made some headway on these cases over the weekend. I spent all day at my buddy's shop on Saturday working to get his shop producing them as well. He is at least as meticulous as I am about the quality, so I have no concerns there.

I also met with another friend that owns a major mfg. enterprise on Friday as well. They've got several facilities and tons of resources to draw from. They will be helping out to get the other models rolling as well.

Of course, I'm covering my bases with signed, non-disclosure (confidentiality) agreements in place, as well as the patent process that was already started during the week. I'm pretty familiar with this whole process as I do it at work all the time. I am a design engineer by trade (my day job) and develop products for a global action sports / lifestyle brand that does $600 million in sales / year, worldwide. I'm no stranger to the product development process so this is not too big a stretch for me.

I would like to say that I am just completely overwhelmed by the show of support here. All you guys (and gals!) are great. It's because of you and your comments that things have come this far.

Wow, I still have tons to do and many things still to consider, but I am very passionate about my work. You can expect my efforts to be just as great as the cases themselves.

[izpod]

thanks for the scramble on getting these out helixipod!

I was so excited after checking out your initial post that I had to run out and buy two 1GB shuffles this weekend. I already had a 4th gen 40gb ipod that was plenty fine but you inspired me to go smaller. I've been added to your list and am waiting ever so patiently. Great to see you have put so much thought into getting things done right!

izpod

[mtnagel]

PRICE???? Why no mention of price ever? I'm thinking it's going to be too expensive for many. Maybe he should say the expected price so that he doesn't go off and make a million, but then people change their mind when they hear the price.

I'm not sure what it costs to make or what a fair price would be, but I'd say anything over $50 will make it too expensive for an accessory to a $100 or $150 item. IMHO.

[helixipod]

I am trying to keep the price as low as possible.
I think you all will be pleasantly surprised.
It will be quite a deal for the product you are getting.

[rst]

Originally posted by mtnagel
PRICE???? Why no mention of price ever? I'm thinking it's going to be too expensive for many. Maybe he should say the expected price so that he doesn't go off and make a million, but then people change their mind when they hear the price.

I'm not sure what it costs to make or what a fair price would be, but I'd say anything over $50 will make it too expensive for an accessory to a $100 or $150 item. IMHO.

I appreciate formulating a cost will be a tricky business decision, but a guide would be very much appreciated. Id think that $60 plus would make it an unrealistic luxury for an ipod shuffle owner.

:D....my heart was pounding when i looked at the thread and their was a post from the OP...i thought we were going to have the nitty gritty and the finer details of the product..:)

[rst]

Originally posted by helixipod
I am trying to keep the price as low as possible.
I think you all will be pleasantly surprised.
It will be quite a deal for the product you are getting.

:)....sits and waits....:)

I cannot wait....

please make me the first person in the UK with such a flash case..:D

[kensteele]

I was beginning to think the same about the price, but I didn't want to spoil all the fun. :)

I know how exciting it can be to put a product on the market but let's face it, the creator is not here to win friends, but to make a profit. :D

I am hoping that the price will be reasonable, so far it looks encouraging. I think I could deal with a $50 price tag but that's me...I'm almost positive you would lose half the audience that high. "Normally" you would have a good price by now, at least that what I learned in MBA class in the 20th century; but this is 2005 and the Internet so I guess things are different now. ;)

Don't forget the paypal and the shipping and all the other non-manufacturing details, I'm sure you have it covered. Thanks again for doing this, I wouldn't mind having a unique case for my shuffle, so far EVERYONE who has seen it likes it and that is what largely drives a lot of my purchases.

[cswi9367]

i showed my unit to the machinist here and he quoted me a price. it would be a very simple make he said. though, by the time you include paypal, shipping, and 2.00 profit for each, your lookng at nearly 40-50 each.

now think about it...40-50 each for a unit that encloses a 100-150 unit? not sure how practical that is. and besides, does this unit really do anything other than case it in. its designed for one thing: pocket use.

wouldnt you all rather have 40-50 itunes songs rather than a case with no real purpose?

[Bob]

Originally posted by helixipod
Mad Pict,

That quote in your signature is the best I've read in a while...

... too funny, man!

Glad you like it - you can always send me a shuffle case ;)

[simusch]

and please let me be the first in Switzerland which owns your case :-)

greetings to all here!

simu

[MorganB]

Helix , was wondering if you are making any mods for the final production versions? Personally I would like to see the Shuffle case allow a laynard... even if it isnt the one that comes with the Shuffle. Would be kind of a waste to have such a great case that no one can see.

[jleiderman]

Originally posted by cswi9367
...wouldnt you all rather have 40-50 itunes songs rather than a case with no real purpose?

No

I don't mind paying that much.
I think the case looks great, in fact, it's the best darn case I've seen for any ipod family model.

Great work Helix

[theyangster]

not to bother the great helix, but when will u start thinking about other ipod cases? :)

(ha no joke in this one)

[nomis425]

i signed up to this forum just to write this post. I need to get my ipod now. :) Great job. Since we're both in So. Cali , do i get mine faster? hehe j/k :) Great work. Hope for the best for you.

[eltravio]

how about "The Helixipod" named after the artist! what do you guys think? :confused:

[hicke]

About the pricing.

I can't seem to understand what the problem is. A $150 Shuffle is not the issue here. If the shuffle was $10, the case would still be as interesting as it is now.

A lot of people (women mainly?) buy $1000 (here in Sweden)Gucci, prada and Louis Vuitton soft leather cases for their Palms and Ipods. Why shouldn't we buy a custom made, CNC'd aluminum case for a couple of 100 dollars? If it even turns out THAT expensive!

Anyway Helix, Great job. I sent you my mail last week and I look forward to my case!

[iStop]

Originally posted by hicke
About the pricing.

I can't seem to understand what the problem is. A $150 Shuffle is not the issue here. If the shuffle was $10, the case would still be as interesting as it is now.

A lot of people (women mainly?) buy $1000 (here in Sweden)Gucci, prada and Louis Vuitton soft leather cases for their Palms and iPods. Why shouldn't we buy a custom made, CNC'd aluminum case for a couple of 100 dollars? If it even turns out THAT expensive!

Anyway Helix, Great job. I sent you my mail last week and I look forward to my case!

Sorry we're not all financially inclined like you are. =/

Helix, case is amazing. I'd like to see the price before I actually owned one. Keep up the good wok, how'd you get the measurements so precise?

[boberang]

My 2 cents:

on price: one of the most important aspects of a product launch. Too low and you don't make enough, too high and you hurt sales (unless it is VERY high and you go for profit over quantity). Anyway the price may be too high (or low?) for some but those that say price will kill it don't speak for everyone.

on enhancement: I too wouldn't mind seeing a way to attach a lanyard to the case. Anyone know of an optional add on such as a magnetic look that could just be attached to the case?

Being able to add/remove an attached loop for a lanyard, or better yet a belt/shirt clip would be great! Is aluminum magnetic? Surely there has to be a magnetic clip or something out there....

[izpod]

Originally posted by boberang
Is aluminum magnetic? Surely there has to be a magnetic clip or something out there....

No not inherently, but even if you made an alloy with both Al and magnetic properties that probably wouldn't be the best idea for a device that uses flash ram.

The best solution would be to have the lanyard or clip option available via the screw system helixipod has set up. If he has already created these, he can retro fix them with longer screws and the appropriate widget (lanyard hole, clip). These can also be made from machined Al - so as to keep the same feel.

The most desirable sleek look would be if these fixings were designed from concept so that no retrofitting would be needed, but both would be functional and look great.

Either way it would be great to have the same functionality as the out of the box shuffle gives its users.

Back to the price issue, quality is above all in my book - and I'm willing to pay for something unique that will outlast many shuffles to come - (melting or otherwise).

helixipod don't feel shy about asking your fanbase for help ;)

izpod

[SPThom]

Originally posted by mtnagel
PRICE???? Why no mention of price ever? I'm thinking it's going to be too expensive for many. Maybe he should say the expected price so that he doesn't go off and make a million, but then people change their mind when they hear the price.

I'm not sure what it costs to make or what a fair price would be, but I'd say anything over $50 will make it too expensive for an accessory to a $100 or $150 item. IMHO.

Maybe he hasn't mentioned a price yet because he's evaluating exactly the concerns you bring up. It wouldn't be wise for him to jump the gun on a price now and either cut himself off at the knees or be forced to change his tune later on. ;)

[mtnagel]

Originally posted by SPThom
Maybe he hasn't mentioned a price yet because he's evaluating exactly the concerns you bring up. It wouldn't be wise for him to jump the gun on a price now and either cut himself off at the knees or be forced to change his tune later on. ;) Yeah, but you forget that he's making quite a few based on the interest here. But the interest here is based on assumptions people are making about the price. I'm sure there are some people that will buy it at any price, but I'm sure there are many more people that will buy it only if it's below a certain price. His one post alluded that we would be pleasantly suprised by the price (I believe), so that sounds like it could be good and he may end up getting all the people that are interested in buying one actually buy one. But it would suck to make a million, but have it priced so high that only a hundred buy it. If he at least gave a ballpark figure for the price, that would give him a more accurate number of people that will buy it. Do you see what I mean?

[izpod]

Originally posted by mtnagel
If he at least gave a ballpark figure for the price, that would give him a more accurate number of people that will buy it. Do you see what I mean?

That is exactly the problem. He can't give out a ballpark figure until all his i's are dotted and his t's are crossed (he is no dummy). He didn't have a chance to create a business model and do surveys on what people would stop buying one at. In fact he even explains he had no idea at the level of interest his contraption would bring. So after he gets his patents and trademarks all out of the way, and gets his site up with paypal or credit card processing, licenses, etc then he will know how much it costs and can then wisely put out a price to interested parties before some company offers to buy his patent and charge twice the price he was charging. - "If you build it, they will come."

We've all seen it before and will see it again. I just can't wait to get a couple, my shuffles feel so naked knowing there is a suit of armor waiting for them out there... somewhere.

izpod

[mtnagel]

Originally posted by izpod
That is exactly the problem. He can't give out a ballpark figure until all his i's are dotted and his t's are crossed (he is no dummy). He didn't have a chance to create a business model and do surveys on what people would stop buying one at. In fact he even explains he had no idea at the level of interest his contraption would bring. So after he gets his patents and trademarks all out of the way, and gets his site up with paypal or credit card processing, licenses, etc then he will know how much it costs and can then wisely put out a price to interested parties before some company offers to buy his patent and charge twice the price he was charging. - "If you build it, they will come."

We've all seen it before and will see it again. I just can't wait to get a couple, my shuffles feel so naked knowing there is a suit of armor waiting for them out there... somewhere.

izpod Sounds like the chicken and egg to me.

Question for you: You say you want a couple, but what if he says they are $100 each. Do you still want 2 then?

[moisture]

Good lord, that is beautiful. Have you thought about any sort of clip attachment to put it on a belt or whatnot?

Originally posted by helixipod
Here's a few pics of the one i made last summer... for my 3G.
My 4G version is in the works!

Enjoy...

[izpod]

Originally posted by mtnagel
Sounds like the chicken and egg to me.

Question for you: You say you want a couple, but what if he says they are $100 each. Do you still want 2 then?

I would want (and desire) them regardless of the price. To me they not only signify a case for my shuffle(s). But they also signify man serving the mother of invention. This is a very special historical moment as an idea is turning into fruition right in front of our cyber-existence. Perhaps I am on the only one that feels this and that would make me an exception to all this ongoing chatter about prices.... but I don't think I am alone. I've always understood that if one has to ask how much something is then one can't afford it. However I do not feel that I am in that position at this moment with this creation.

I was perfectly fine with my 4thG 40G iPod until I saw the case helixipod created. That inspired me to go to best buy and pick two up (the apple store is too far away). While I was there I noticed they didn't have any cases for the shuffle, thus making my drive for acquiring a couple of helixipod's creations even greater.

The real chicken and egg is that I wouldn't have picked up the two 1GB shuffles that I did had I not seen helixipod's case online (in anticipation of buying the cases).

izpod

[ApertureFoto]

Indeed very well said,.....I have three waiting for their coat of armor :-)

[kensteele]

Originally posted by izpod
I would want (and desire) them regardless of the price. To me they not only signify a case for my shuffle(s). But they also signify man serving the mother of invention. This is a very special historical moment as an idea is turning into fruition right in front of our cyber-existence. Perhaps I am on the only one that feels this and that would make me an exception to all this ongoing chatter about prices.... but I don't think I am alone. I've always understood that if one has to ask how much something is then one can't afford it. However I do not feel that I am in that position at this moment with this creation.

I was perfectly fine with my 4thG 40G iPod until I saw the case helixipod created. That inspired me to go to best buy and pick two up (the apple store is too far away). While I was there I noticed they didn't have any cases for the shuffle, thus making my drive for acquiring a couple of helixipod's creations even greater.

The real chicken and egg is that I wouldn't have picked up the two 1GB shuffles that I did had I not seen helixipod's case online (in anticipation of buying the cases).

izpod

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[mtnagel]

Originally posted by izpod
I would want (and desire) them regardless of the price. To me they not only signify a case for my shuffle(s). But they also signify man serving the mother of invention. This is a very special historical moment as an idea is turning into fruition right in front of our cyber-existence. Perhaps I am on the only one that feels this and that would make me an exception to all this ongoing chatter about prices.... but I don't think I am alone. I've always understood that if one has to ask how much something is then one can't afford it. However I do not feel that I am in that position at this moment with this creation.

I was perfectly fine with my 4thG 40G iPod until I saw the case helixipod created. That inspired me to go to best buy and pick two up (the apple store is too far away). While I was there I noticed they didn't have any cases for the shuffle, thus making my drive for acquiring a couple of helixipod's creations even greater.

The real chicken and egg is that I wouldn't have picked up the two 1GB shuffles that I did had I not seen helixipod's case online (in anticipation of buying the cases).

izpod I just don't know what to say. Man, I sure hope this thing lives up to your momumentally high expectations. Don't get me wrong, I think it's beautiful, but I guess I just don't feel as passionate about an iPod Shuffle case as you do. Heck, I don't even feel that much passion about my iPod itself, let alone a case. To each his own I guess.

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by izpod
I was perfectly fine with my 4thG 40G iPod until I saw the case helixipod created. That inspired me to go to best buy and pick two up (the apple store is too far away). While I was there I noticed they didn't have any cases for the shuffle, thus making my drive for acquiring a couple of helixipod's creations even greater.

This seems a little like buying a Mercedes because you found a really cool car cover for it. I can't believe you actually bought a product because you like a case built to protect it. To each his own, though.

[mtnagel]

Originally posted by GadgetGuru72
This seems a little like buying a Mercedes because you found a really cool car cover for it. I can't believe you actually bought a product because you like a case built to protect it. To each his own, though. Nice analogy :)

[cswi9367]

Originally posted by izpod
I would want (and desire) them regardless of the price. To me they not only signify a case for my shuffle(s). But they also signify man serving the mother of invention. This is a very special historical moment as an idea is turning into fruition right in front of our cyber-existence. Perhaps I am on the only one that feels this and that would make me an exception to all this ongoing chatter about prices.... but I don't think I am alone. I've always understood that if one has to ask how much something is then one can't afford it. However I do not feel that I am in that position at this moment with this creation.

I was perfectly fine with my 4thG 40G iPod until I saw the case helixipod created. That inspired me to go to best buy and pick two up (the apple store is too far away). While I was there I noticed they didn't have any cases for the shuffle, thus making my drive for acquiring a couple of helixipod's creations even greater.

The real chicken and egg is that I wouldn't have picked up the two 1GB shuffles that I did had I not seen helixipod's case online (in anticipation of buying the cases).

izpod

this is the single most largest post of ignorance ive ever read in any forum of any topic. cars, electronics, homes....anything. im on many forum boards about many different topics, and i have never once thought so low about a single post as i have this one.

izpod, you act like one shuffle case is the start of a new world. as if nothing else has ever been invented in front of our eyes. look at the internet in general; do you realize what is being created in front of our own eyes every second? one small invention is nothing. this is not george washington, or the ten commandments, or the constitution. its an mp3 player case. yes, its nice, but its not the start of a new life. i wish helixpod good luck, but there are so many cases hitting the market currently its sick.

a historical moment?
mother of invention?

you really need to get a more broad aspect on life. physical things can and will be replaced. you need to spend some more time on focusing on what cannot be replaced. friends, family, and fun. i truly feel sorry for you.

what happens in another 18 months when apple releases another version of an ipod, and someone makes a nice sleek looking case for that one? is it another historical moment? another mother of invention? in years to come, nobody will even remember an ipod. its just like that nice alarm clock made back in the 70's that had a snooze and a loud buzzer. do you remember that? exactly.

[hicke]

I totally agree with izpod!!

The Shuffle isn't the main issue. It's a nice piece of hardware, but the CASE is like jewellery! This is the product of a person who has used his skills and time to produce something really nice, be it what it may. Such efforts, IMHO, MUST be awarded! I don't care if it's $2-300! I will get one (or two - one for the gal, too) regardless.

This is not the average type of thing. This is, just like izpod says, the beginning of something big, and you are all part of it, whether you buy one or not.

[sonyman]

Originally posted by hicke
I totally agree with izpod!!

The Shuffle isn't the main issue. It's a nice piece of hardware, but the CASE is like jewellery! This is the product of a person who has used his skills and time to produce something really nice, be it what it may. Such efforts, IMHO, MUST be awarded! I don't care if it's $2-300! I will get one (or two - one for the gal, too) regardless.

This is not the average type of thing. This is, just like izpod says, the beginning of something big, and you are all part of it, whether you buy one or not.

$2-300 ? are you crazy? and thats USD. thats way to much for me, might as well cancel my order now, if it's going to be that much.

[izpod]

Originally posted by cswi9367
this is the single most largest post of ignorance ive ever read in any forum of any topic. cars, electronics, homes....anything. im on many forum boards about many different topics, and i have never once thought so low about a single post as i have this one.

izpod, you act like one shuffle case is the start of a new world. as if nothing else has ever been invented in front of our eyes. look at the internet in general; do you realize what is being created in front of our own eyes every second? one small invention is nothing. this is not george washington, or the ten commandments, or the constitution. its an mp3 player case. yes, its nice, but its not the start of a new life. i wish helixpod good luck, but there are so many cases hitting the market currently its sick.

a historical moment?
mother of invention?

you really need to get a more broad aspect on life. physical things can and will be replaced. you need to spend some more time on focusing on what cannot be replaced. friends, family, and fun. i truly feel sorry for you.

what happens in another 18 months when apple releases another version of an ipod, and someone makes a nice sleek looking case for that one? is it another historical moment? another mother of invention? in years to come, nobody will even remember an ipod. its just like that nice alarm clock made back in the 70's that had a snooze and a loud buzzer. do you remember that? exactly.

cswi9367,
thank you for sharing you opinion with us regarding my thoughts. Unfortunately we do not know each other in real life (IRL) and therefore cannot fully quantify the intense feelings behind our written words.
There is no reason to feel sorry for me in the least since you really don't know me at all. But thanks anyway. I know you are trying.

- Group Hug Here -

Back to the topic at hand!

Oh where oh where is my aluminum case,
Oh where oh where can it be?

[mtnagel]

Originally posted by sonyman
$2-300 ? are you crazy? and thats USD. thats way to much for me, might as well cancel my order now, if it's going to be that much. Proved my point exactly. For most people, the price is important and if it's too high, many will cancel their order.

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by hicke
I don't care if it's $2-300! I will get one (or two - one for the gal, too) regardless.

I think Helixipod's case is really nice. However, this statement is rather absurd. Even assuming you bought the 1GB shuffle for $150, stating that you're willing to buy a case for $300 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're willing to pay twice as much as the product itself for a case?!? If you were to do so, you'd then have to buy something to protect the case. ;) After all, you wouldn't want something scratching your $300 case, would you? So, you'd have to buy a case for your case, no? ;)

[Zombie Inc]

Originally posted by GadgetGuru72
I think Helixipod's case is really nice. However, this statement is rather absurd. Even assuming you bought the 1GB shuffle for $150, stating that you're willing to buy a case for $300 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You're willing to pay twice as much as the product itself for a case?!? If you were to do so, you'd then have to buy something to protect the case. ;) After all, you wouldn't want something scratching your $300 case, would you? So, you'd have to buy a case for your case, no? ;)

...Ownage

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by Zombie Inc
...Ownage

Ownage? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? ;)

[hicke]

I'm not saying it HAS to be that expensive. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind.

I'm not getting the case to protect the ipod, I'm getting it because it is overwhelmingly beautiful!!!

::

[izpod]

Originally posted by hicke
I'm not saying it HAS to be that expensive. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind.

I'm not getting the case to protect the ipod, I'm getting it because it is overwhelmingly beautiful!!!

::

bravo! perfectly stated!

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by hicke
I'm not saying it HAS to be that expensive. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind.

I'm not getting the case to protect the ipod, I'm getting it because it is overwhelmingly beautiful!!!

::

Then my original question holds true -- how are you going to protect your case? ;) If the case itself is "overwhelmingly beautiful," aren't you going to be worried about scratching the case? And, if you're not buying the case to protect the iPod, what on earth are you buying it for? Are you going to hang it on the wall and admire it like a work of art?

I can understand why Helixipod is so emotional about this case since he built it with his own hands. That's something to be proud of. What I don't understand is why you're so emotional about this case and why you're willing to spend twice as much as the shuffle itself in order to get one.

[izpod]

Originally posted by GadgetGuru72
What I don't understand is why you're so emotional about this case and why you're willing to spend twice as much as the shuffle itself in order to get one.

beautiful things; such as women, are never meant to be understood. However, they are still expensive and sought after.

izpod

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by izpod
beautiful things; such as women, are never meant to be understood. However, they are still expensive and sought after.

izpod

:rolleyes: You're now comparing this case to a beautiful woman? I think you've lost your grasp on reality. I'm sure your girlfriend/wife will be thrilled to hear that her beauty is comparable to a piece of aluminum shaped to protect an iPod. I'm also sure that your girlfriend/wife will be thrilled to hear that she's not meant to be understood and is "expensive." Maybe you need to re-evaluate your priorities.

[izpod]

Originally posted by GadgetGuru72
:rolleyes: You're now comparing this case to a beautiful woman? I think you've lost your grasp on reality. I'm sure your girlfriend/wife will be thrilled to hear that her beauty is comparable to a piece of aluminum shaped to protect an iPod. I'm also sure that your girlfriend/wife will be thrilled to hear that she's not meant to be understood and is "expensive." Maybe you need to re-evaluate your priorities.

for any woman to object to my statement only proves their jealousy.
There is no grasp on reality lost oh GadgetGuru72, by appreciating something beautiful. Such are museums dedicated to house contraptions of mind, blood and sweat. Yet no one questions these.

My priorities are perfectly suited for me, yet you wish to mind them without asking. - Whose priorities are higher?

izpod

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by izpod
for any woman to object to my statement only proves their jealousy.

Their jealousy of what? I have no clue how to respond to this statement. The only thing I know for sure now . . . is that you're single.

You have concluded that a woman must be jealous if she's insulted by being called "expensive" and not capable of being understood? Your mind works in mysterious ways.

I hope you and your aluminum iPod case have a happy life together.

[honeybee1236]

:) I don't want to see this thread descend into a personal bickering match, so please, keep it on topic - thank you.

[izpod]

Originally posted by GadgetGuru72
I hope you and your aluminum iPod case have a happy life together.

Thank you kindly. But I am getting two, not just one... and remember the 1G ipod shuffles I purchased were for the beautiful crafts of art I wish to purchase from helixipod.

izpod

[GadgetGuru72]

Originally posted by honeybee1236
:) I don't want to see this thread descend into a personal bickering match, so please, keep it on topic - thank you.

My apologies. Sorry for getting off track.

I also apologize to Helixipod. I wouldn't want to detract attention from your case and your sales. I hope you do really well with this product.

[iStop]

Woowww..

I think if Helixpod's case had a hole big enough for izpod to fit into..
the world would be over-taken by Robots.

Personally, I love the case; but I would not pay a dime over 50 for something that cost me 150$. I think anyone who goes over 75 can put their money to better use.

Helix, the case really is nice and no offence to you or anything.

[helixipod]

iStop,

You'll have no worries over the price.
It will be affordable and reasonably priced for what it is.

[boberang]

Originally posted by helixipod
iStop,

You'll have no worries over the price.
It will be affordable and reasonably priced for what it is.

Whooo hoooo, I think that indicates the likely price is under $50 since iStop said he/she wouldn't pay a dime over $50!

Now that we can guess the price is between $0.01 and $50 let the speculation start about when we can expect to be able to order one!

:-)

[kayle12]

Originally posted by helixipod
iStop,

You'll have no worries over the price.
It will be affordable and reasonably priced for what it is.

That's nice to here & see :D

Any update on the status of the web~site???

Thanks Helixipod

Kayle

[kensteele]

Originally posted by hicke
I'm not saying it HAS to be that expensive. I'm just saying I wouldn't mind.

I'm not getting the case to protect the ipod, I'm getting it because it is overwhelmingly beautiful!!!

::

You've only seen it in pictures on the Internet, no?

[kensteele]

I would pay $50 after shipping for the case; that sounds fair and reasonable. But I'd first like to see what others had to say about the case with regard to the unknowns such as the laynard and the fit and finish, etc.

I too believe this case is very nice from what I know so far; it's not a museum piece; but it goes very well with the shuffle. I think the novelty might be that we again have something that most other people don't have.

[ApertureFoto]

lets see....hmmmm.....I'm going to guess at a target price of.....
32.23......I'll have two now please....and one later for dessert :-)

Seriously...its looks great....and would love to hear more about the progress about the case and the website.

Kris

[grayskyz]

I'm sure there is a sense of urgentcy because I know helix knows that in order to keep the buzz (well deserved) He needs a site to at least show some pro photos (call me!), and still keep people interested.

[hicke]

Originally posted by kensteele
You've only seen it in pictures on the Internet, no?

No, but I don't really understand the question? I have enough information to fully understand what it looks like. I modelled it in MAYA and have a good 3D view of it.

I am not getting the case to protect the shuffle - I'm getting a shuffle to put in my case.

The case is the main item, not the shuffle. basta.

[cswi9367]

Helix, why will you not post the price of your case?

[swissshuffle]

blah.

I've lost interest....was cool at first but no internet site and no price.

I am NOT paying more than 25 US dollars for this unless it is etched on the back and is re-designed to allow the use of the lanyard.

[kensteele]

Originally posted by hicke
No, but I don't really understand the question? I have enough information to fully understand what it looks like. I modelled it in MAYA and have a good 3D view of it.

I am not getting the case to protect the shuffle - I'm getting a shuffle to put in my case.

The case is the main item, not the shuffle. basta.

hehe, never mind. :)

[aychamo]

lol, if I was helix, I'd start selling these for $300 for a couple of weeks to get some money from all these "mother of invention" nut jobs, then drop the price down to $40.