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yinyang
12-08-2004, 11:16 PM
well it looks like someone has worked out a way to hack the iPod firmware. however it looks like it can only be done via a pc (shame...!) and that it's done at your OWN RISK!!

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000610023097/

dwchin
12-08-2004, 11:23 PM
Nice link! That looks awesome... Maybe some day, when my warranty runs out ( :p ) I'll hack my firmware and stick a custom image on there. That Do Not Disconnect really is a tad annoying....

mikey
12-08-2004, 11:27 PM
very cool link...amazing that it took four generations of iPods for the hack to be worked out.

Ryan19
12-08-2004, 11:54 PM
nice may have to do that

whitewonder
12-09-2004, 01:04 AM
thats so tight!!makes me want an ipod photo!

Dextaaah
12-09-2004, 01:30 AM
I agree this hack is so much cooler with a iPod photo. But I might try it out I'm still undecided. If I do decided to do it I'll be sure to post some pics/.

iPulse
12-09-2004, 01:44 AM
Anyway, if it stuffs up just reinstall the ipod software?
I would change it soo much. So you can totally give it a new gui?

enjoilax
12-09-2004, 01:51 AM
Please pics if anyone does it, i will be doing this soon.

jpod999
12-09-2004, 02:15 AM
Bah, only for pc. So not fair.

Oh, and to bad when I plug in my iPod I only see the "Ok to Disconnect" screen. I don't remember what the "Do not Disconnect" screen looks like:(

enjoilax
12-09-2004, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by jpod999
Bah, only for pc. So not fair.

Oh, and to bad when I plug in my iPod I only see the "Ok to Disconnect" screen. I don't remember what the "Do not Disconnect" screen looks like:(

ouch.



Stupid flash i hate you. I need to re apply iCleaner again. *sigh* BUT THIS IS WORKING OH YEA.

Taken from the original article: "the ipods firmware can be updated without restoring the entire ipod, before running the updater follow these steps:

go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:

buildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)
visibleBuildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)

Change a number with a lower number

buildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)
visibleBuildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)

Now the updater will think you have firmware version 3.0.1 and will let you update without restoring the entire thing.

this has been tested with 3g and 4g, the example above is 4g, the 3g uses different numbers but its virtually the some thing, just decrease the number. it should also work with other ipods but im not sure"

works like a charm.

yinyang
12-09-2004, 03:37 AM
so do i defile my iPod by connecting it to a PC....!?

hhhmmmmm!! :D

enjoilax
12-09-2004, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by yinyang
so do i defile my iPod by connecting it to a PC....!?

hhhmmmmm!! :D

DO IT!

*PEER PRESSURE*

:D

dwchin
12-09-2004, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by enjoilax
ouch.



Stupid flash i hate you. I need to re apply iCleaner again. *sigh* BUT THIS IS WORKING OH YEA.


Very nice, enjoilax! And that's quite a scratchy screen you have :p I'm wondering.... once it's been hacked, to get it back to the default images I assume a restore will set it back?

iPulse
12-09-2004, 04:06 AM
how did you do the panda thing there? Is that jpeg?

Digitalburn
12-09-2004, 08:20 AM
A cool site to make new icons.

http://www.sponsorsvsfreeloaders.com/halo2emblem/

Its for that great system with that really cool game but you can make many icons.

I reconmend

"Halt"
"Radioactive"
"Smiley"
"Frowney"

It also lets you change the size of the image and color. Although if you dont have an iPod Photo color wont matter. :)


Digitalburn

enjoilax
12-09-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by iPulse
how did you do the panda thing there? Is that jpeg?

No i went into the software. And you need to replace it as a .BMP

*bump*

has anyone else done this so far? Its actually quite easy.

Advil
12-10-2004, 02:42 AM
Anyone tried the icon hack on a 4g with a colored picture (http://ipodlounge.com/ipodnews_comments.php?id=5775_0_7_0_C )? Would it just display it in black and white or give some error?

Doug Gilmour
12-10-2004, 02:47 AM
It would work with a 4G. Here's (http://ipodstudio.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3212) a pic of a 3G iPod hacked from iPod Studio (www.ipodstudio.com)

-Dan

SirGeoph
12-10-2004, 03:12 AM
i tried it...worked fine on my 20gb 4g....

M3wThr33
12-10-2004, 05:49 AM
I redid a lot of images on mine.
I changed the Disconnect logo to the Ghostbusters logo and the OK to disconnect to the Ghostbusters II logo. Rating songs is done in Pac-Man. The shuffle icon is a ghost. The battery now is bigger and cooler to me. While charging, it's a shaded block. The menu arrows have tails to them. The clock numbers have been shrunk and have a wavy line that changes with each number on them. The Parachute game has been done with ghosts now and the base says "Pac-Man" on it.
While hooked up, the spinning arrows are spinning Pac-Men.
Volume Speakers are now Up/Down arrows.
The music placeholder icon to fastforward is narrower to be more precise. The contrast icon on the left is hollow as opposed to half-filled.
The longer charge icon spells out the word "Chargin'" with a lightning bolt at full power.

Yeah, there's lots of little things I changed and I doubt it'll be the last revision.

If you have BitTorrent, you can grab it from me. I just hashed up the exe plain. No use in having people worry about what a Rar is. (Even though it saves 22MB)
Download torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/torrent.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f73 6e52ad688666c
Details of torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/stats.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f736e 52ad688666c

RockSTaR
12-10-2004, 12:28 PM
Now if someone would only hack the 3 gen firmware so we can add "Shuffle To the main Menu" and customize our menus!

MOUSECORD
12-10-2004, 01:10 PM
i have a 20g 4th gen and i can't get them to put pix over to it so i dunno whats going on. I put them on follow the guide but it dosn't go i think its the firmware thing i can't figure which one to get, none match the firmware i have so hmm

dwchin
12-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by M3wThr33
I redid a lot of images on mine.
I changed the Disconnect logo to the Ghostbusters logo and the OK to disconnect to the Ghostbusters II logo. Rating songs is done in Pac-Man. The shuffle icon is a ghost. The battery now is bigger and cooler to me. While charging, it's a shaded block. The menu arrows have tails to them. The clock numbers have been shrunk and have a wavy line that changes with each number on them. The Parachute game has been done with ghosts now and the base says "Pac-Man" on it.
While hooked up, the spinning arrows are spinning Pac-Men.
Volume Speakers are now Up/Down arrows.
The music placeholder icon to fastforward is narrower to be more precise. The contrast icon on the left is hollow as opposed to half-filled.
The longer charge icon spells out the word "Chargin'" with a lightning bolt at full power.

Yeah, there's lots of little things I changed and I doubt it'll be the last revision.

If you have BitTorrent, you can grab it from me. I just hashed up the exe plain. No use in having people worry about what a Rar is. (Even though it saves 22MB)
Download torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/torrent.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f73 6e52ad688666c
Details of torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/stats.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f736e 52ad688666c

Do you have pics? Or examples of the images you used? :p

ToadX
12-10-2004, 02:37 PM
This is interesting...

-James
12-10-2004, 04:17 PM
Anybody know what happens if you put a colour image on a 3G or 4G iPod?

enjoilax
12-10-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by james_shadow07
Anybody know what happens if you put a colour image on a 3G or 4G iPod?

think about it.

What happens when you play color tv show on a B&W television?

It will show up in B&W

enjoilax
12-10-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by M3wThr33
I redid a lot of images on mine.
I changed the Disconnect logo to the Ghostbusters logo and the OK to disconnect to the Ghostbusters II logo. Rating songs is done in Pac-Man. The shuffle icon is a ghost. The battery now is bigger and cooler to me. While charging, it's a shaded block. The menu arrows have tails to them. The clock numbers have been shrunk and have a wavy line that changes with each number on them. The Parachute game has been done with ghosts now and the base says "Pac-Man" on it.
While hooked up, the spinning arrows are spinning Pac-Men.
Volume Speakers are now Up/Down arrows.
The music placeholder icon to fastforward is narrower to be more precise. The contrast icon on the left is hollow as opposed to half-filled.
The longer charge icon spells out the word "Chargin'" with a lightning bolt at full power.

Yeah, there's lots of little things I changed and I doubt it'll be the last revision.

If you have BitTorrent, you can grab it from me. I just hashed up the exe plain. No use in having people worry about what a Rar is. (Even though it saves 22MB)
Download torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/torrent.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f73 6e52ad688666c
Details of torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/stats.html?info_hash=06541e5df80df9d84a408433f736e 52ad688666c

you wouldn't happen to be from SA would you?

-James
12-10-2004, 04:28 PM
Yer, well obviously it shows up in black and white. But does it use different shades of grey or sumin for where the colours are?

enjoilax
12-10-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by james_shadow07
Yer, well obviously it shows up in black and white. But does it use different shades of grey or sumin for where the colours are?

I believe so....

jwc110869
12-10-2004, 05:11 PM
I'm messing with it right now, and if you load a color image it will gray-scale it. But some images look better than others.............

MOUSECORD
12-10-2004, 05:14 PM
Which firmware do i use for my 4g 20gig ... the drop down list dosn't have the version so what is other people using?

I tried IDR_FIRMWARE-4.3.0.2 and it worked for mine. ill add sc in a few.

jwc110869
12-10-2004, 05:21 PM
Which ever version is on your iPod I guess. Just check you iPod under "settings" then "about"..............

silver_haze20
12-10-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by enjoilax
you wouldn't happen to be from SA would you?

Are you allowed to say that enjoilax?!

enjoilax
12-10-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by silver_haze20
Are you allowed to say that enjoilax?!

what? That I'm a goon and that i would like to know if a fellow goon is roaming these boards as well?

Anyways, Has anyone else modded their firmware? I would love to see everyone's moded pics. :D

-James
12-10-2004, 08:02 PM
Yer, can people who have done the mod please post pictures. I'm debating whether or not to go ahead with it.

M3wThr33
12-10-2004, 11:12 PM
Yes. I am that goon.

blazzinmatt
12-10-2004, 11:17 PM
Could other people please post some pics. I really want to see what it looks modded, with other pictures, before I decide to do it or not.

M3wThr33
12-10-2004, 11:18 PM
I'll post some more of the graphics I'm working on in a bit. I'm just making som more tweaks.

Sample graphics from the theme:
http://planetmew.com/pacsample.zip
Download torrent for it:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/torrent.html?info_hash=33c533248504d380702a47054ec a316b49ee354c
Details of torrent:
http://rickw512.no-ip.com:6969/stats.html?info_hash=33c533248504d380702a47054eca3 16b49ee354c

I hope you guys enjoy it.
(Right now I only put the pics onto the 4G iPods, but for the most part iit'll be easy to add them to the others. Even the clock!

ZepHead21
12-11-2004, 12:19 AM
####### HELL!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I just used the iPod updater to flash a new firmware, and now my iPod won't start. It flickered off to reset, but never came back.

Now I have 38 GB of music to rerip after I get it warranty replaced.

:(

Doug Gilmour Edit: Please do not try to avoid the language filter by masking words, let's act civilized here...

zee
12-11-2004, 01:26 AM
I'm going to use the commie hammer and sickle for mine. = D

todd2fst4u
12-11-2004, 02:43 AM
i have been screwing around with this for awhile, and i was wondering if you can change the boot logo from the apple to something else? has anyone tried that? i want to do it on my 3rd gen

ZepHead21
12-11-2004, 02:46 AM
I wouldn't reccomend trying. I did, and now it won't boot. :(

Darksev
12-11-2004, 03:59 AM
I've been messing around with the icons on my mini since the app came out the other day. I'm loving being able to change just about everything, but so far, no luck on the boot (aka reset) logo. it's still the apple dispite what I adjust.

zee
12-11-2004, 04:29 AM
So what can you do if you're one of the unlucky ones that it screws up your ipod for you?

Nitr0
12-11-2004, 04:50 AM
Works for me, I used http://www.fika.org/davew/smaragd/images/RIAA.jpg but the words are too small on my iPod Photo. I am still looking for http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/7662347367845446.JPG?0.813442111879481 this RIAA logo, but to no avail. If someone could point me in the direction of that 2nd logo it would be much appreciated.

profbobo
12-11-2004, 05:17 AM
http://messikan.com/images/ipod1.jpg
http://messikan.com/images/ipod2.jpg
http://messikan.com/images/ipod3.jpg

turbosound
12-11-2004, 08:09 AM
heh .. nice :)

Can anyone with a b&w ipod post some more results?

M3wThr33
12-11-2004, 08:40 AM
I'd try, but everytime I try to upload the firmware to my domain, my roommate cycles the router's power because I kill his ping. *sigh*

-James
12-11-2004, 09:21 AM
Has anyone else had troubles with their iPod once they've modded the firmware?

Orson
12-11-2004, 10:46 AM
I used the iPod photo graphite pack for the b&w ipods and it works great on my 3rd generation white beaty.

The program is something in the good direction of hacking the firmware :)

silver_haze20
12-11-2004, 10:48 AM
This much is true fine sir. Re-read what I had seen and realised it didn't apply.

This is sweet, just been messing around.

I can't wait for some dedicated people to come along and make themed firmware, it'll be really good.

Just a thought though, could you get a background for this, as in, some kind of watermark on the main menu...

blazzinmatt
12-11-2004, 12:03 PM
I am really contemplating on doing this but I don not want to reupload all of my songs to my iPod. Now I was reading that you can change the sysinfo file on the iPod to read as a older firmware. Does anyone know which line to change for the 4G 20GB iPod and what to change it to. I really don't want to mess anything up on it.

bigmouse64
12-11-2004, 01:10 PM
Worked fine on my 40gb 4G!

silver_haze20
12-11-2004, 01:21 PM
Been doing this on my photo, if people want, I can distribte the file?

So far I have:

Made the bar at the top blue (fades from dark to light)
Made the rating stars into smiley faces
Changed the do not disconnect screen to a radioactive symbol
Changed the helicopters in parachute into space invader things!

I'm stuck on what to do for the battery though (the big symbol, when iPod is charging and is off). Bear in mind you only get 2 frames for the iPod photo.

I also tried changing the arrows (the ones that lead into the next menu) from black to blue, to match the rest of the iPod, but it only accepts mono :( I assume this is the same for some other pictures.

Ideas are more than welcome...and we need to get a theme page on the go, as in, a place where people can submit various themes. This is going to be so good.

Oh, and I have encountered no problems.

burnmeonacd
12-11-2004, 05:50 PM
Wow, this is a really neat hack. I'm definitely going to try this one. But i'm also kinda sketchy, I don't mind replacing all my songs..

bov
12-11-2004, 08:27 PM
whoaaaa pretty cool stuff :D

M3wThr33
12-11-2004, 08:30 PM
Alright, I finally got my theme up. http://planetmew.com/ipodman.rar . It's for 4G's only, but most of the graphics should translater to 3G and below, I just need to do that later tonight when I get bored. ;) I'll work on a color version, too. Wokka wokka wokka.

-James
12-11-2004, 10:55 PM
Cool, thanks M3wThr33, would be very much appreciated if you could do that for the 3G ipods.

enjoilax
12-11-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by M3wThr33
Alright, I finally got my theme up. http://planetmew.com/ipodman.rar . It's for 4G's only, but most of the graphics should translater to 3G and below, I just need to do that later tonight when I get bored. ;) I'll work on a color version, too. Wokka wokka wokka.

Whoops, if that doesn't work try: http://home.comcast.net/~enjoilax/ipodman.rar

Unlimited bandwith so download away.

bigmouse64
12-11-2004, 11:46 PM
It's also here, again unlimited bandwidth. Have fun!

http://www.third-core.org/bigmouse64/various/ipodman.rar

M3wThr33
12-12-2004, 01:15 AM
Hehe. Gimme a bit, but I'll have a version with 3G graphics as well. Let me know what you think about the battery meters and other things I changed. Many things were changed just for the sake of changing things.

Ted Miginty
12-12-2004, 03:47 AM
ok im haveing a problem with this thing. I changed some of the pics, and loaded them on and wrote the firmware and it work all fine. Then when I tried to load the firmware onto my ipod it restored my ipod, then i had to plug it into the wall. After that i pluged my ipod back into my comp, and tried to click on update on updater program and it wont let me click it. So now i cant load the changed firmware onto my ipod.

enjoilax
12-12-2004, 03:51 AM
you should have loaded the changed firmware BEFORE updating it.

Now you need to change the sysinfo file.

perplex
12-12-2004, 11:01 AM
hello, people start posting all your custom ipod graphics you've added using the ipodwizard. i'm thinking about putting a bunny on the "Do not disconnect" screen. :D

macaddiict
12-12-2004, 11:18 AM
Has anyone else damaged their iPod by using this hack?

perplex
12-12-2004, 11:28 AM
someone said you dont need to quite do a restore like that engadget guide said. anyone clear this up please?

bigmouse64
12-12-2004, 12:02 PM
'the ipods firmware can be updated without restoring the entire ipod, before running the updater follow these steps:

go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:

buildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)
visibleBuildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)

Change a number with a lower number

buildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)
visibleBuildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)

Now the updater will think you have firmware version 3.0.1 and will let you update without restoring the entire thing.

this has been tested with 3g and 4g, the example above is 4g, the 3g uses different numbers but its virtually the some thing, just decrease the number. it should also work with other ipods but im not sure

(the ipod_control folder is a hidden folder)'

From the engadget site^^

blazzinmatt
12-12-2004, 12:08 PM
Thanks to everyone who helped me do this. I really appreciate it. So far I have two images hacked on my 4G. I now have a radioactive sign for do not disconnect and I now rate my songs in Pacman instead of stars. It is a really cool hack. I recommend you do it if you know what you are doing and you want your iPod to look a bit different than your friends.

IPatH
12-12-2004, 01:13 PM
can u do it on 4g ipod that arnt colour?

-James
12-12-2004, 01:23 PM
Hmmmm. Still not sure. I would like to make my iPod look different from everyone elses, but i don't want to screw it up if i do it wrong.

whitewonder
12-12-2004, 01:24 PM
yes you can,there should be a post in the general section regarding that

Orson
12-12-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by james_shadow07
Hmmmm. Still not sure. I would like to make my iPod look different from everyone elses, but i don't want to screw it up if i do it wrong.

You cane not screw your iPod up. If you don't like it you just restore it with the original (unchanged) updater and everythings fine like you just got it.

Orson

-James
12-12-2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Orson
You cane not screw your iPod up. If you don't like it you just restore it with the original (unchanged) updater and everythings fine like you just got it.

Orson

Ah right, thanks for the info. I'll probably go ahead with it now.

Rhine
12-12-2004, 02:07 PM
OK well after doing this i cant belive it was that easy i would like to thank the guy that made it is a great prgram and the person who figured out how to update with out losing everything which is useful cuase i keep projects on my mini. Also not sure if my pods screwy but it doesnt give me ok to disconnect sign anymore it just goes to the main menu with out haveing to startup like it usually did is this new or is it cuase i edited the check sign?

enjoilax
12-12-2004, 02:37 PM
Can you rephrase that?

Rhine
12-12-2004, 02:52 PM
Nvm i figured it was put in the update and its perfectly normal the ipod mini will disconnect with out having to have the apple logo come up

Um anyone knwo which is the start up log in the mini update cuase i changed all the possible ones and none of them show up when i update it

Ink Noise
12-12-2004, 04:10 PM
yinyang, thank you for, in essence, throwing my entire day away. Really, THANK YOU!

/me goes off to find the most fantastic graphics to replace the defaults with.

Darkreaper
12-12-2004, 04:45 PM
This is an awsome hack, but the only problem is that I can't find the place to edit the firmware. :( I've been reading through the posts and I still cant seem to find it.

Would someone be able to describe the steps I would need to tak on doing this? Im not very good at this and I want to make sure I have everything right before I do anything.


Thanks :)

Rhine
12-12-2004, 04:57 PM
http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ This one is the iod updater
http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/ipodwizard.zip this one is the actaul firmware editor instructions ar epretty sefl explanatory

rhodri
12-12-2004, 06:02 PM
is there anywhere i can get my ipod 3g 40 gig modded in the UK

silver_haze20
12-12-2004, 06:09 PM
Ok, I made a few changes to the firmware, nothing amazing. And I didn't have much time, but I did my best!

-I changed the scroll bars to be rounded (like in iTunes)
-I changed the rating into a smiley face
-I changed the bar at the top to fade from blue to white, instead of grey to white, to match the rest of the iPods features.
-I changed the helicopters into space invader characters, and I made a change to the parachutists. But its pretty rubbish!
-And I thought it'd be fun to change the solitaire screen to a rainbow colours!

The most important ones are shown...

If people have interest in this I could distribute it. I have no hosting, and can't get my torrent program to work...I have a gmail account though, if anyone wants to offer some hosting?

lilsuprano
12-12-2004, 06:11 PM
there's no place in particular that you have to send your iPod...all you have to do is download a program from Ipod Soft (www.ipodsoft.com) (i think thats where to get it) and you're set.

Eric

enjoilax
12-12-2004, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by silver_haze20
Ok, I made a few changes to the firmware, nothing amazing. And I didn't have much time, but I did my best!

-I changed the scroll bars to be rounded (like in iTunes)
-I changed the rating into a smiley face
-I changed the bar at the top to fade from blue to white, instead of grey to white, to match the rest of the iPods features.
-I changed the helicopters into space invader characters, and I made a change to the parachutists. But its pretty rubbish!
-And I thought it'd be fun to change the solitaire screen to a rainbow colours!

The most important ones are shown...

If people have interest in this I could distribute it. I have no hosting, and can't get my torrent program to work...I have a gmail account though, if anyone wants to offer some hosting?

Do you have the .exe?

Also, call your ISP and ask them if they give you hosting.

I know for a fact Earthlink and Comcast give you space.

silver_haze20
12-12-2004, 06:24 PM
Yeh I do. I split it up into different .rar files, and can host those (on yahoo breifcase).

My provider does do hosting. However, I need a username and password to login, and I don't know it!

I'll host the smaller files on yahoo and make it publicly available. just download all of them, and open rar1

Ryan19
12-12-2004, 06:48 PM
ok i've been thinking about and i am going to do it but before i do it if you dont like it cange it back?

crazy_azz_mat
12-12-2004, 06:51 PM
M3wThr33 - cool theme man i tried it out nicely done just pac man isnt my thing

so whoever is interested im gonna make a snowboaders theme. If anyone has any ideas on what to use for pictures and such i will consider it but for the disconnect i got a really cool one. its the cartoon calvin running naked with texts under it saying "Life is Short, Snowboard Naked"

crazy_azz_mat
12-12-2004, 07:14 PM
how do we know what firmware it is. i have the newest one which is 3.0.2 but in the drop list it shows IDR_FIRMWARE-10.3.0.2 and 4.3.0.2. Which one do i use? I tried both and the the initial picture shown is coming soon and a sign (that was with both firewares). Any ideas on why i cant seem to see the disconnect sign?

Ink Noise
12-12-2004, 07:16 PM
silver_haze20, check your Private Messages as I'd be more than happy to host whatever you'd like to share with the iPod community.

And here is my half-baked change to my iPod,
images at www.overmused.com/sixapart/

stinkiedmb
12-12-2004, 07:17 PM
does anyone think that this firmware hack could lead to another later development for the enabling of past gen ipods to be loaded with newer gen firmware? ie. 4gen firmware on a 3gen?

Ink Noise
12-12-2004, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by stinkiedmb
does anyone think that this firmware hack could lead to another later development for the enabling of past gen ipods to be loaded with newer gen firmware? ie. 4gen firmware on a 3gen?
Probably not, I remember a user here with the username "Tom <something>" (sorry, my mind is gone today) was able to put the 4G firmware on a 3G device but it ended up not working at all. I'm pretty sure enough changed in the device to make reworking it nearly impossible, but who knows.

Darkreaper
12-12-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Rhin
http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ This one is the iod updater
http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/ipodwizard.zip this one is the actaul firmware editor instructions ar epretty sefl explanatory

Cool, I got the software... Now were do i find this...

"go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:"

This is the only part which i cant find.

JBF
12-12-2004, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by profbobo
http://messikan.com/images/ipod1.jpg
http://messikan.com/images/ipod2.jpg
http://messikan.com/images/ipod3.jpg


YAY! TRANSFORMERS!

Rhine
12-12-2004, 09:05 PM
Dark Reaper go to my computer then go to tools and then folder options then clikc on view and where it says hidden files and folders make it show them then just clik on yer ipod HD icon and there will be a semi transparent folder that syas what yer looking for

Darkreaper
12-12-2004, 09:21 PM
Okay, I finally got to that part lol.... Now heres my next problem,

My build Id and visible id are different are they suppose to be the same?

buildID: 0x02408000 (2.4)
visibleBuildID: 0x01208000 (1.2)

Also after I get that done I will be able to edit the images on the ipodwizard right? I was playing around before but it seems that I cannot load bitmap on the Check and the Circle with the slash through it....


Thanks for all the help

Rhine
12-12-2004, 09:34 PM
Yeah each of those numbers make them lower
Make the buiild id like this or something thats lower : buildID: 0x02308000 (2.3)

and the Visible one like this: visibleBuildID: 0x01108000 (1.1)

your using a mini right? your editing the wrong firmware after you load the updater then theres the drop box pick the one thats says firmaware 3.2 and then load that one all are editable and those ones are for the mini

Darkreaper
12-12-2004, 10:04 PM
Okay I now edited the sys info things and put in a picture to replace one. Then I clikc write.... It says it worked now what do I do? Change the nubmers back?

Rhine
12-12-2004, 10:31 PM
go to ipod updater run it and update it DONT restore it will say you have an old version so it will update correctly with out deleting your data

Darkreaper
12-12-2004, 10:47 PM
Rhin,

Thank you so much I finally got it to work!

:)

eugchen
12-12-2004, 11:44 PM
wait a minute...the instructions say that if you do this, all data on ipod will be lost and ipod will be restored. does this mean you will lose your songs?

M3wThr33
12-13-2004, 12:29 AM
Alright. New version with 3G graphics is up.
http://planetmew.com/ipodmanw3g.rar

enjoilax
12-13-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by eugchen
wait a minute...the instructions say that if you do this, all data on ipod will be lost and ipod will be restored. does this mean you will lose your songs?

Please fully read the thread and the comments in the engadget article.

Rhine
12-13-2004, 01:30 AM
eugchen, if you do trick with changing the system info your data doesn't have to be lost you can keep it all ppl have posted the method:

Note- Will void warranty proceed at own risk

First Software Needed:
1. http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ -iPod Updater from apple-
2. http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/ipodwizard.zip -iPod Wizard will let you edit the firmware

GUIDE TO CHANGE ICONS WITH OUT LOSING DATA

Written By Rhine to help some computer illiterate people trick out their Pods And other helpful people

"The ipods firmware can be updated without restoring the entire iPod, before running the updater follow these steps:

go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:

buildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)
visibleBuildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)

Change a number with a lower number

buildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)
visibleBuildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)

Now the updater will think you have firmware version 3.0.1 and will let you update without restoring the entire thing.

this has been tested with 3g and 4g, the example above is 4g, the 3g uses different numbers but its virtually the some thing, just decrease the number. it should also work with other ipods but im not sure

(the ipod_control folder is a hidden folder)"
^done by unknown help full person Also Edited by me for some mispellings

Method to See hidden folders in XP

Go to My Computer then go to tools and then folder options then click on view <at the top> and where it says hidden files and folders to make it show them just click on your ipod HD icon and there will be a semi transparent folder that says what your looking for.

List of Firm Ware by What is known <Not Complete>
iPod Photo Firmware-5.4.0
iPod 4th Gen=4.3.0.2
iPod Mini=3.2.4
iPod 3rd Gen=2.2.2
iPod 2nd Gen=1.1.4
iPod 1st Gen=<some one figure it out i dont have one>

- Rhine <i misspelled Rhine if you know how ot chnage it plz tell me :D>

Sentient One
12-13-2004, 05:06 AM
I just finished doing this to my pod, and since I'm a metal guy I used some pentagrams and my band's logo for changing things, I'll post pics tomorrow as right now it's wayyy too late. Stupid cool mods, taking away day, argh.

eugchen
12-13-2004, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Rhin
eugchen, if you do trick with changing the system info your data doesn't have to be lost you can keep it all ppl have posted the method:

Note- Will void warranty proceed at own risk

First Software Needed:
1. http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ -iPod Updater from apple-
2. http://media.weblogsinc.com/common/videos/pt/ipodwizard.zip -iPod Wizard will let you edit the firmware

GUIDE TO CHANGE ICONS WITH OUT LOSING DATA

Written By Rhine to help some computer illiterate people trick out their Pods And other helpful people

"The ipods firmware can be updated without restoring the entire iPod, before running the updater follow these steps:

go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:

buildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)
visibleBuildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)

Change a number with a lower number

buildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)
visibleBuildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)

Now the updater will think you have firmware version 3.0.1 and will let you update without restoring the entire thing.

this has been tested with 3g and 4g, the example above is 4g, the 3g uses different numbers but its virtually the some thing, just decrease the number. it should also work with other ipods but im not sure

(the ipod_control folder is a hidden folder)"
^done by unknown help full person Also Edited by me for some mispellings

Method to See hidden folders in XP

Go to My Computer then go to tools and then folder options then click on view <at the top> and where it says hidden files and folders to make it show them just click on your ipod HD icon and there will be a semi transparent folder that says what your looking for.

List of Firm Ware by What is known <Not Complete>
iPod Photo Firmware-5.4.0
iPod 4th Gen=4.3.0.2
iPod Mini=3.2.4
iPod 3rd Gen=2.2.2
iPod 2nd Gen=1.1.4
iPod 1st Gen=<some one figure it out i dont have one>

- Rhine <i misspelled Rhine if you know how ot chnage it plz tell me :D>

thank you very much for your help...i will give it a try tonight.
good luck.

silver_haze20
12-13-2004, 06:59 PM
Almost finished perfecting my first firmware, and will be available soon.

For the record though, there are a few graphics on the iPod photo that can't be colour, for example, the arrow that points to the next screen, it can be anywhere from white to black, but no colour. Perhaps someone with more knowledge could change this, or its just set?

I don't beleive the first actual hack isn't reveiving more coverage than this! I expected new firmwares to pop up all over the internet hours after it was found out. Anyoen know a iPod firmware site?!

perplex
12-13-2004, 07:58 PM
http://img97.exs.cx/img97/7094/sdfsdfff1nq.jpg

and

http://img54.exs.cx/img54/959/sdfg3pi.jpg

Mina
12-13-2004, 08:08 PM
Nice, where did you get the logo from?

Mina.

perplex
12-13-2004, 08:10 PM
just google image search lol. the 2nd one on top row when you type "playboy"

blazzinmatt
12-13-2004, 08:13 PM
Why rate songs in stars when you can rate them in Pacman!

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/295883pacman.jpg

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 01:00 AM
Cool! His new version lets you edit fonts. I haven't played around much, but managed screw up the menu & now playing font (Chicago). Pretty silly right now, but once i can figure out how to replace the font it will pretty cool!

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 01:06 AM
again.

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 01:22 AM
back to "normal"

enjoilax
12-14-2004, 01:28 AM
Is that battery bar gradiatized? Want to post the pics? ;)

yinyang
12-14-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Ink Noise
yinyang, thank you for, in essence, throwing my entire day away. Really, THANK YOU!

/me goes off to find the most fantastic graphics to replace the defaults with.

we try to please here at the 'lounge ;)

i'm still patiently waiting for a mac version of the editor, so that i too can fritter away hours individualising my iPod...!

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 01:45 AM
someone else actually did that. I can't find the link now though. it's on either the thread here or at one of these links:

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000610023097/

http://www.ipodhacks.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=4236&forum=2&start=160

no webspace to post, sorry.

talkingipods
12-14-2004, 01:51 AM
This seems like a very cool hack. I just have a couple of questions. Why does this void the warranty? Can't you restore the ipod back to normal?

Rhine
12-14-2004, 01:55 AM
It voids thew arranty becuase you are affecting the firmware and this is not supported by Apple and if its screwed up they dont want to replace your mistake. Im pretty sure you can restore and it would seem very hard to screw up just read my previou post one page back on how to do it correctly with out losing data

ofthedove
12-14-2004, 04:42 AM
anyone figured out how to change to the apple graphic that comes up when you reset your ipod?

Darksev
12-14-2004, 05:07 AM
from what I read on the ipodhack forum, no. Supposedly the apple reset logo is located up in the 90's as far as reference numbers go, and is in a section that can't be changed...yet.

Working on some replacement icons for my mini, so far I have the large charge graphics, and the sync done.

silver_haze20
12-14-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by chucktaylor
Cool! His new version lets you edit fonts. I haven't played around much, but managed screw up the menu & now playing font (Chicago). Pretty silly right now, but once i can figure out how to replace the font it will pretty cool!

Where did you get the new version from? I re-downloaded the program, but its the same?

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by silver_haze20
Where did you get the new version from? I re-downloaded the program, but its the same?

I am testing it for him. I don't think it has been "released" yet. Check out the thread I linked earlier

http://www.ipodhacks.com/modules.ph...rum=2&start=160

eugchen
12-14-2004, 03:14 PM
man, i can't believe what happened....i followed the guide on engadget and i changed the firmware exactly the way rhin said to, and i clicked on restore and all my songs and data got lost! and plus, my image did not show up. i have a 4G 20GB ipod, and have the firmware 3.02 on it. what did i do wrong?

silver_haze20
12-14-2004, 03:46 PM
Well, you could do whatever you want and press restore, and its not going to update is it!?

thundergroove
12-14-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by eugchen
man, i can't believe what happened....i followed the guide on engadget and i changed the firmware exactly the way rhin said to, and i clicked on restore and all my songs and data got lost! and plus, my image did not show up. i have a 4G 20GB ipod, and have the firmware 3.02 on it. what did i do wrong?

that is what 'restore' does

eugchen
12-14-2004, 04:09 PM
i dont know what that means, the guide says to press restore

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by eugchen
i dont know what that means, the guide says to press restore

Restore = Restore to factory settings, erase contents.
Update = update firmware and not erase contents.

If you use the wizard, then change your sysinfo file, then click update you won't lose anything.

enjoilax
12-14-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by eugchen
i dont know what that means, the guide says to press restore

Did you write the firmware, and the correct version #?

chucktaylor
12-14-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by eugchen
man, i can't believe what happened....i followed the guide on engadget and i changed the firmware exactly the way rhin said to, and i clicked on restore and all my songs and data got lost! and plus, my image did not show up. i have a 4G 20GB ipod, and have the firmware 3.02 on it. what did i do wrong?

Also, on the 11-15 updater I use 4.3.0.2 (I have a 4G 40gig). If you clicked "Load Bitmap" (then selected the new image) in Wizard and clicked "Write" to write the bitmap to the updater, it should have worked. Did you remember to click "write?"

Orson
12-14-2004, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Darksev
from what I read on the ipodhack forum, no. Supposedly the apple reset logo is located up in the 90's as far as reference numbers go, and is in a section that can't be changed...yet.

Working on some replacement icons for my mini, so far I have the large charge graphics, and the sync done.

Looks very nice, good work. I hope to see it soon.

silver_haze20
12-14-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by chucktaylor
I am testing it for him. I don't think it has been "released" yet. Check out the thread I linked earlier

http://www.ipodhacks.com/modules.ph...rum=2&start=160

Could you email it to me? That link didn't work for me :( send it to the username i use here @hotmail.com if you can. Cheers

Rhine
12-14-2004, 07:07 PM
Might have wanted to read more thouroghly <spelling> It says not to you had to click update as lon as you did the previuo steps it would have updated not restored it Sorry for your loss but maybe you should of been more attentive next time hope you can get your stuff back

It also doesnt say to hit restore the part i got from the engadget site is well written to the point where you could have seen the diff...

stinkiedmb
12-14-2004, 09:11 PM
h@x0red!

deadquackums
12-14-2004, 10:58 PM
Should I do it? I still have my 90 day warranty. What exactly does the warranty say about this? Where can I find the warranty? Once I change it can it go back without Apple knowing?

Rhine
12-14-2004, 11:45 PM
Warranty cam in the box with your ipod

deadquackums
12-15-2004, 12:27 AM
OK. I found it. I've decided to do it, but I cannot change the do not disconnect icon. All I've done so far to my iPod is load the updater then save the icon, but it won't let me load one

eugchen
12-15-2004, 12:40 AM
not sure i understand...are you saying i should have clicked on update? maybe i am looking at the wrong guide. i was at the engadget guide with the link on the very first post of this thread. in the guide at the end, it says quote....

"Make sure your iPod is plugged in, and iPod updater will look for what firmware you can restore to, for us, it found the iPod photo and we had the option to restore, which will then add the new firmware with our custom image.


Click restore, and in about 5 minutes you???ll have the new image you made, keep in mind this kills all your data, so back up before you do this. Here???s ours???"

see there it says click restore??
i think you guys are reading a different guide than i am.
please let me know...i am willing to give this another try.

Rhine
12-15-2004, 12:57 AM
But the method that was posted later in the comments is which i copy and pasted in to my post shows you how to do it with out losing data by changing the buil id and the visible id to a later version so it would update and not kill you data

dwchin
12-15-2004, 01:03 AM
Enjoilax was kind enough to post instructions for not having to restore the iPod on the first page of this thread. Also, the engadget article has a bunch of comments underneath it, and the third one down (I think....) had the instructions too. True, the guide did say click restore... but restore always erases the iPod. Sorry you lost your data on your iPod, but if you try it again, be sure to use the update trick or it will Restore all over again.

eugchen
12-15-2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by dwchin
Enjoilax was kind enough to post instructions for not having to restore the iPod on the first page of this thread. Also, the engadget article has a bunch of comments underneath it, and the third one down (I think....) had the instructions too. True, the guide did say click restore... but restore always erases the iPod. Sorry you lost your data on your iPod, but if you try it again, be sure to use the update trick or it will Restore all over again.

that's the instructions i went with...
i ended up doing it again, but this time i tried update, and i did not get any change in my icons, but did not lose any songs...

basically here is what i do...
i changed the sys file in the ipod to a lesser value...mine was 302800 i think, i changed both to 301800 ( i have a 4G 20GB ipod)
then i load ipodwizard and open the 11_15 updater exe file...i select the 3.02 firmware...
i click load, then find a bmp that i want to alter, save it to desktop, change with adobe photoshop, and then load back the photo i want, (i see the bmp file on the ipodwizard screen) then click write...

then i open ipodupdater and let it do it's thing...i believe it then says sofware version 3.02 (need to update)
i click update (here is where before i clicked restore like a #######), it tells me to disconnect and plug into ac wall...i do that, and then i am done...no change in icon!

what am i doing wrong or right???? thanks!

Orson
12-15-2004, 09:20 AM
NEW version is out v.1.0.2

Now you cane replace all pictures and fonts and vieuw strings in the firmware.

Download Here (http://www.will-burn.com/ipodwizard.zip)

martinj
12-15-2004, 11:44 AM
Anyways, I don't have my iPod Photo yet. Will arrive this saturday. Well I did what they stated and I only see images in black and white. How do I get the colour ones? Do you need to have the iPod photo connected once first to be able to get the GUI pics of the iPod photo?
Cheers

enjoilax
12-15-2004, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Orson
NEW version is out v.1.0.2

Now you cane replace all pictures and fonts and vieuw strings in the firmware.

Download Here (http://www.will-burn.com/ipodwizard.zip)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Happy happy joy joy!

silver_haze20
12-15-2004, 03:49 PM
Ok, I've finished doing all I can do on the photo firmware. I have made the following changes:

-Scroll Bars are now rounded like in iTunes
-Title bar at the top fades from blue to white, not grey to white
-Rating stars have been changed to smiley faces
-Do not disconnect screen has been changed to radioactive symbol
-Apple sign (in legal settings) has been changed to the same radioactive sign
-Play and pause icons are blue and white, play looks good, but pause needs some working on
-Solitaire background is now rainbow coloured
-Helicoptors are now space invader characters
-Arrows leading to next screen are now grey
-Big bettery charging is now a japanese battery I googled

These are all the images in one bmp.

I'm having problems with the vertical empty scroll bar when loaded onto the ipod. It displays the top curve, but it cuts out the bottom one. I kept all the dimensions the same but just rounded it off.

Anyone is welcome to edit the firmware, try and fix the scroll and host the file. inknoise has already kindly offered me hosting, and hopefully we can get that sorted soon (I gmailed you the file, hopefully gmail didn't eat it!)

edit: there was colour loss when I transferred the big battery image into the big gif, the battery looks a lot better o nthe firmware

bdb
12-15-2004, 04:22 PM
So has no one managed to change the apple logo that shows up when it boots? That's the only thing I'd like to change.

enjoilax
12-15-2004, 04:30 PM
i think its BMP #94 in the firmware, but that is changable now. :D

JBF
12-15-2004, 05:10 PM
Enjoilax... you can change the logo but it will not change on the actual ipod. I've done all the apple logos and none change the boot loader image.

enjoilax
12-15-2004, 05:28 PM
Even with the new program? :(

silver_haze20
12-15-2004, 08:18 PM
So, just checking out the string function, can we edit them in future versions? It seems to have all the menu options, what it should spell etc. It would be good to call the music directory something like, "wherez da muzic?1" or something similar!

Awaiting next version in anticipation...yes, I know the new one was just released...need more functions!

jpod999
12-15-2004, 08:20 PM
None of this stuff works on Mac's right?

enjoilax
12-15-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by jpod999
None of this stuff works on Mac's right?

READ THE THREAD. :D

No it does not.

Ichijoe
12-15-2004, 09:25 PM
I managed to change the Boot Logo (if only for a brief moment), useing the PodWizard Ver. 1.0.2. It briefly changed the Apple to a Macross UNSpacy Logo. But, the Apple Logo is very stubern why?!?!

Thats easy most of these Icons are in the iPod OS (aka Firmware), NOT!!! But unlike those Icons the Boot Apple most likey is in Firmaware (e.g. on Silicon = Chip) iPodOS is not on Silicon e.g. Chip. It's on the Hard-Disc. Thuss it's unlikely anyones going to be changeing the Boot Apple anytome soon... =(


That said I did manage to change the 'Do not disconect' to this:

stinkiedmb
12-15-2004, 09:56 PM
that guy likes his rush! :D

Ink Noise
12-15-2004, 10:18 PM
http://www.overmused.com/sixapart/archives/2004/12/ipod_photo_firm.php

Above is the link where can download the firmware updater than silverhaze20 has modified with his own graphics for the iPod photo.

Enjoy folks.

stinkiedmb
12-15-2004, 11:01 PM
man, i can't wait til we can mod the strings... i want mine to say, instead of 'Do not Disconnect', 'Watch it, Buddy!'

Ichijoe
12-15-2004, 11:25 PM
I hope that some one will eventualy find a way to permently (till the next normal Restore), Boot Apple Logo...

Although I ain't holding out much hope for it though. In all my voyages with the iPod (Linux Volume Hacking), I totaly whiped the Drive on several occasions, but was still able to get most of the Icons from 94 upwards namely the Boot Apple. So where ever that's stored it's not in a End-user usable location and most likey would envolve Flashing some EEPROM = Firmware change.

However as far as changing strings and such. Is it posible to alter the Region Code (i.e. LL-US/Can FD-France/Germany), This would be cool if it weren't for the likes of goPod or iMod which just plane work!!!!

chucktaylor
12-16-2004, 12:14 AM
Well, Changed the Chicago font to the Impact font for all normal characters. Kinda ugly, but it works.

chucktaylor
12-16-2004, 12:15 AM
again.

stinkiedmb
12-16-2004, 12:24 AM
chuck,

how did you go about changing the font? all manual, did you use some sort of pre-fab bitmap font file, or was there some other software involved?

yinyang
12-16-2004, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by jpod999
None of this stuff works on Mac's right?

there's a developer called kainjow working on it, and i believe iPod wizard has dished out some code to some other mac developers to have a go - i think there'll be a mac version soon enough, and then all my spare hours are going to be spent on playing ;)

silver_haze20
12-16-2004, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Ink Noise
http://www.overmused.com/sixapart/archives/2004/12/ipod_photo_firm.php

Above is the link where can download the firmware updater than silverhaze20 has modified with his own graphics for the iPod photo.

Enjoy folks.

Cheers inknoise. I have made a post also over in the photo forum, and will make a few more on other websites.

Rhine
12-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Omg some one else likes robotech :D. I was thinking of changing the starup logo to the SDF-1 but have had no success so far any know yet which is which?

Rhine
12-16-2004, 09:59 AM
Omg some one else likes robotech cool I was personally thinking of changin my apple logo to the SDF-1 but i doesnt work which really suxs

Orson
12-16-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by chucktaylor
Well, Changed the Chicago font to the Impact font for all normal characters. Kinda ugly, but it works.

a lucida grande font would be very nice.

Ichijoe
12-16-2004, 11:02 AM
>Rhin

I don't know about Robotech (Harmony Gold Blows!!!), but alas that's an old debate! But, I DO LOVE MACROSS!!! Ichijoe?!?! - aka Rick Hunter!!!

As for replaceing the Apple Logo with an UNSpacy Logo I only had success in changeing the one Apple Icon in the Settings /About / Legal.

Rhine
12-16-2004, 07:36 PM
Yeah i managed to replace that with the Swan Song Lable but i want the start up to change that would be pretty cool

Ichijoe
12-16-2004, 09:22 PM
Yeah it would be if you could actualy change it.

Alas I don't think it's posible though. I have a sneeking suspicion that, that Logo is held NOT on the HDD but rather on an embedded EEPROM (e.g. REAL FIRMWARE) as opposed to the iPodOS that others call the Firmware. Upshot being you'll most likely will not be able to alter this Logo.

On the other hand I did manage to change it briefly to the UNSpacy Logo (if only for a brief moment). It came up as the iPodOS was being written to the Hard-Disk, then quickly reverted back to its Apple form. You can try this with a Logo of your own it's stored at Number 94 (iPod 3G rev. 2.2.2) Other iPods may vary.

BTW: Must you replace Images with similarly sized ones (48x64 Pixels)? Or can they be slightly larger?

gunpowda
12-17-2004, 04:26 PM
Windows flag that I photoshopped, if anyone would like it.

Preview:

http://gunpowda.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/flag.gif

Download [save target as]:

Here. (http://gunpowda.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/flag.bmp)

gunpowda
12-17-2004, 04:28 PM
Windows flag that I photoshopped, if anyone would like it.

(Rename to .bmp, as the board won't let you upload these.)

davedey
12-18-2004, 07:04 PM
made this for the do not disconnect screen, i think it looks pretty good

Darkreaper
12-18-2004, 10:01 PM
Which one is the Settings/Legal Apple Logo?

Would I be able to use the 4G font with the mini or another type?

Ink Noise
12-18-2004, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Darkreaper
Would I be able to use the 4G font with the mini or another type? Probably not, I think the reason that the iPod mini uses an Arial/Helvetica-esque font is because it is more suited for its smaller screen.

Orson
12-19-2004, 04:08 PM
iPod Wizard 1.04 released

New features:
- Ability to edit character metrics
- Find/Find next in strings pane
- New icon and about box (read the about box - there???s an important message in it!)

What???s in store:
- Edit strings
- Control character mapping in fonts
- Load multiple bitmaps at once
And any other feature you guys will suggest and is technically possible.

Download here (http://jesse.slacknet.com/ipodwizard/uploaded_files/ipodwizard.zip)

-James
12-19-2004, 04:14 PM
Orson, was it you that created this program?

Orson
12-19-2004, 04:17 PM
no, iPodWizard is the creator of this program.

-James
12-19-2004, 04:24 PM
Ah right i see, my mistake. It's just when you said to look at the About box, which talks about the PayPal donations, i thought it might have been you who created the program and wanted to draw attention to the about box in order that they might give donations. But, anyways, i was wrong...

Going off to modify my iPod's firmware at long last...

Uber_1337
12-19-2004, 06:35 PM
iPod Wizard Central (http://www.will-burn.net)

This is the *Official* ( I am still waiting on word for the permission from the Wizard).

Check it out, space to upload graphics and even full themes aswell as seek help and assistance with the program.

Kirk
12-19-2004, 07:03 PM
Will this work with my older 2G iPod?
<crosses fingers>

Rhine
12-19-2004, 07:36 PM
You just have to update the right firmware and it should work Nice site i like the setup and the look nice and clean

yinyang
12-19-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Uber_1337
iPod Wizard Central (http://www.will-burn.net)

This is the *Official* ( I am still waiting on word for the permission from the Wizard).



site looks good - just waiting for the mac version :)

Ink Noise
12-19-2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Uber_1337
iPod Wizard Central (http://www.will-burn.net)

This is the *Official* ( I am still waiting on word for the permission from the Wizard).

Check it out, space to upload graphics and even full themes aswell as seek help and assistance with the program.
You converted your domain and made an entire website devoted to a freeware tool before even asking the program author?

Anywho, looks nice.

Advil
12-20-2004, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by enjoilax


Taken from the original article: "the ipods firmware can be updated without restoring the entire ipod, before running the updater follow these steps:

go on your ipod to ipod_control>device>sysinfo
and open the file in wordpad.
find this line of code:

buildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)
visibleBuildID: 0x03028000 (3.0.2)

Change a number with a lower number

buildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)
visibleBuildID: 0x03018000 (3.0.1)

Now the updater will think you have firmware version 3.0.1 and will let you update without restoring the entire thing.

this has been tested with 3g and 4g, the example above is 4g, the 3g uses different numbers but its virtually the some thing, just decrease the number. it should also work with other ipods but im not sure"

works like a charm.

I changed my 3.0.1 4g ipod to a modified 3.0.2 and it worked fine. Now I want change the pictures again but the update button in ipod updater is grayed out even though I did what's mentioned above. iPod updater even states that my ipod is an older version and needs an update but no button. Any insights?

shiddle
12-20-2004, 07:39 AM
If this is the info I get from the specified file in ipod_control>device>sysinfo

buildID: 0x04008000 (4.0)
visibleBuildID: 0x01008000 (1.0)

should I just change the 8 to a 7 ?

Just wonderin cause I dont wanna lose all data on my ipod photo for just changing the "do not disconnect" logo

Ashex
12-20-2004, 07:39 AM
did you make sure to change the 0x03018000 part?




Thats easy most of these Icons are in the iPod OS (aka Firmware), NOT!!! But unlike those Icons the Boot Apple most likey is in Firmaware (e.g. on Silicon = Chip) iPodOS is not on Silicon e.g. Chip. It's on the Hard-Disc. Thuss it's unlikely anyones going to be changeing the Boot Apple anytome soon... =(


I experimented with the iPod Linux project and have decided to hold off on joining in for the time being. this may help you guys out a little:
when you install linux on the iPod and you boot up, the apple logo displays first, then it switches to the Linux penguin. on a regular iPod OS when you boot up, it displays the apple logo then flickers. this means that when it flickers the OS is loading. so you can change the final boot logo not the initial one.



Originally posted by Uber_1337
iPod Wizard Central (http://www.will-burn.net)

This is the *Official* ( I am still waiting on word for the permission from the Wizard).

Check it out, space to upload graphics and even full themes aswell as seek help and assistance with the program.


just so ya know, your database server is being screwy, or you didn't run install.php correctly.

shiddle
12-20-2004, 07:52 AM
its not even in there , the numbers are as I stated above, the guy from engadget seems to have different numbers then my ipod. Tho he says that his example is 4g ipod photo...

Ashex
12-20-2004, 07:57 AM
well yeah, it's going to be 22280000 or whatever, you have to change both values. this happened to me before, but at the moment I can't think. it's 3 am and I can't think.

Uber_1337
12-20-2004, 12:37 PM
The problems are now sorted at iPod Wizard Central (www.will-burn.net), that problems where down to a server move that went badly wrong.

and yes, i dedicated a whole domain and made a website since there was nothing on the domain and it was just sitting as a blank page and ive got too much time on my hands due to the winter holidays.

And latest version is out, get it Here (http://will-burn.net/viewtopic.php?t=15).

WebbyBabe
12-20-2004, 02:51 PM
Where can I get the hello kitty graphic?

stinkiedmb
12-20-2004, 06:55 PM
google image search hello kitty

Darkreaper
12-23-2004, 11:20 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the Espy Sands back?

Also I have been using different fonts for the mini and it has all come out too big or bulky, does anyone know of a good font that would be suitable?

Thanks

Rhine
12-24-2004, 12:53 AM
the pixo fonts already in the firmware fit well

macska
12-24-2004, 01:00 AM
This has to be the best part of the article:
Also, this most certainly voids your warranty, so if something happens, you???re screwed. But hey, you???ll have your own branded iPod, that???s hot and well worth it, right?

I think I'll wait for my warranty to run out before I try doing this because knowing me I'll mess something up and my iPod will explode or something

Darkreaper
12-24-2004, 01:10 AM
Thank you Rhine you have been much of help! :)

I got a problem when I use the Pixo font. I used index #9 and it seems to have some weird filler thing for the space. Like if I have something like "Set Time", the space would show up as some weird mark... Any thoughts?

Rhine
12-24-2004, 02:07 PM
Like a square with nothing in it. Well the font maker thing is it early testing phases and is not 100% fool proof yet so some symbols and or characters might not show up like i use a Kashmir Led Zeppelin font and the & doesnt show up

Darkreaper
12-24-2004, 03:36 PM
I tried other fonts before and it was missing the & also. For the Pixo font there is like a "P" with three dots on the side of the letter, where the space is suppose to be.

Rhine
12-25-2004, 12:13 AM
well i have no idea but ipod wizard is probably working onit cuase this problem has been reported already just look gfor the fix in teh next verision

Darkreaper
12-25-2004, 01:08 AM
Thats cool, thanks Rhine

freak_tj
12-25-2004, 10:25 AM
Hi ;)

iPodWizard works great :D

http://home.arcor.de/freak_tj/Bilder/iPod%20Nr_1.gif
http://home.arcor.de/freak_tj/Bilder/iPod%20Nr_2.gif

Ashex
01-01-2005, 05:02 PM
wtf? the site is shutdown? come on! pay the bill!

the1bigboy
01-01-2005, 05:37 PM
Meet Kurt...


Restore trick didn't work, so i had to do a full ipod format :-(

Uber_1337
01-01-2005, 08:41 PM
the site isnt shut down, i dunno what has really happend. I get back from holiday and see that :S.

Im working on it, hosts arent too helpful though, being new years day and all.

Ashex
01-01-2005, 08:46 PM
oh okay, if worst comes to worst we can use this thread as backup. I have some of the themes up on my ftp server, I kinda wish more people had uploaded their themes just in case this happened. not that the sites gone or anything.......
I have the irking suspicion that Apple had something to do with this.

modify the user agreement to say that will-burn.net is not responsible for what the users say or do with information provided by will-burn.net

Ink Noise
01-01-2005, 09:39 PM
I can get a site for this up quickly if anyone can send me anything that was on it aside from the iPodwizard tool (I've already got that ver 1.05).

Let me know, I can have it up quite soon and I have enough bandwidth to spare.

Me of overmused.com

Ashex
01-01-2005, 09:42 PM
I've got 2 of the themes on my server, it's a public login, I haven't gotten around to changin file permissions, I'll do that right now.

WayzataXC05
01-01-2005, 11:47 PM
This looks pretty cool. I'm not the greatest with computers, but my friend is. My only concern is that something my go wrong. Are there any people that have had problems that u can't fix by restoring the ipod?

jeremy108
01-02-2005, 01:08 AM
one quick question: what file do you edit to trick the updater into letting you "update" instead of having to "Restore"?

and btw, uber: i just messaged my host on aim, here at 9 pm MST on new years, and got a response in under 5 minutes :) (i use hostgator.com by the way, and i'm fairly happy with them and esp. their support)

Uber_1337
01-02-2005, 12:56 PM
Sites back up.

Few problems sorted with certain organisations.

iPod Wizard Central (www.will-burn.net)

Ink Noise
01-02-2005, 03:30 PM
...and those organizations would be?

andrew
01-03-2005, 02:41 AM
Ok reading 12 out of 14 paes is enough. I want to do this, but I want to get rid of my iPod Linux (probably won't do anything, but I don't want conflicts). The search on the forum isn't working right now.

Some wierd error \/
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 129 bytes) in /var/www/html/forums/search.php on line 396

Anybody remember how to get rid of it or if the OS will conflict with the new firmware? Thank you.

EDIT: Did the guy who posted on page 13 about the Linux (I think it was Ashex) find out if they interfere with eachother?

sahizzle
01-03-2005, 11:11 AM
Any one know the risks. I don't want to screw my ipod up just yet...

andrew
01-03-2005, 08:16 PM
I just did it, worked like a charm. I thought that sysinfo file was one of those really long file where you accidentally edit the wrong part and you ruin the entire machine. Extremely simple, if you mess it up... there's just no possible way you can mess things up. I have no idea what that guy who crashed the drive was doing.



This /\ is that \/



With much editing and resizing. Getting pictures this small and not losing their quality is much harder than it looks.

WayzataXC05
01-03-2005, 08:30 PM
I have a 3gerneration ipod, my sister has a 4generation ipod. I think i'm going to do this mod. But will that make hers do the same thing? We share the same computer and itunes by the way.

andrew
01-03-2005, 08:56 PM
That doesnt matter, if you want the same things then just update from the same file. If you dont, make seperate copies of your updater and edit them to your likings.Since the iPods before the color didnt have many big graphics, this mod doesnt really have much to offer other than changing the do not disconnect, the check mark and the apple sign (barely that). The rest of the icons are so minute that any changes are barely noticable. You can also change the font but im fine with mine. I'll comeback when someone finds out how to watermark

EDIT: Can someone make a ThunderCats one? I've been trying but once you get that small it seems the pixels destroy everything. It keeps looking like a beak or a dinosaur instead of a ThunderCat. Maybe you'll have better luck. Thanks.

v1p3r
01-04-2005, 08:54 AM
Hi all, I regular iPodWizard Central so I thought I'd give you all some tips :)

1. Get the latest version, 1.07 fixes a few bugs with the TTF importing.
2. There are 2 firmwares for the 4G, 10.x, and 4.x, which one is loaded onto your ipod seems to be a random quirk of each ipod.
3. Don't even think about changing the strings if you're not familiar with hax editing!
4. Check the site for images if your too lazy to make your own.

mausolus
01-04-2005, 10:56 AM
I made some pics for the charging animation for 3g ipods. I think you have to change it to a bitmap before u can use it but it works fine, it looks like calvin is chewing.

mausolus
01-04-2005, 10:58 AM
I made 2 files but does anyone know whats the use of the shorter image?

Ichijoe
01-04-2005, 12:28 PM
To the guy that posted this:



Could you please tell me where I can find versions of this for 33,34 & 35, and for 53,54 & 55...

Thank you!!!

Dinger
01-04-2005, 08:23 PM
Firstly, Version 1.0.7 (http://will-burn.net/viewtopic.php?t=126) is out,

To the guy that posted this:



Could you please tell me if you have finished modding your firmware? (if i remember right, you have a mini dont you?)
I would love to take a look at the finished version, and to download it of you dont mind.

it looks awsome! *takes hat off to you*

Thank you!!!

Ashex
01-04-2005, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by andrew
Ok reading 12 out of 14 paes is enough. I want to do this, but I want to get rid of my iPod Linux (probably won't do anything, but I don't want conflicts). The search on the forum isn't working right now.

Some wierd error \/
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 129 bytes) in /var/www/html/forums/search.php on line 396

Anybody remember how to get rid of it or if the OS will conflict with the new firmware? Thank you.

EDIT: Did the guy who posted on page 13 about the Linux (I think it was Ashex) find out if they interfere with eachother?


Sorry about the belated reply. The Apple OS and Linux OS do not interfere with eachother, I'm going to assume you have a 3G since that's what I have. if you don't want to boot in linux then reset it it and as soon as you see the apple logo flicker hold down the rewind button for awhile until the penguin shows up and stays for a few seconds. it'll then boot into the iPod OS.

And as for the question, they don't interfere with eachother, if you used the windows installer for Linux it rewrites the boot sector so that Linux boots up instead and theres a line in the Linux program that gives you a small time-frame to switch to iPod OS.

hope that helps.

Uber_1337
01-05-2005, 07:13 PM
1000th download of version 1.0.7 nearly upon us.

chopperC81
01-05-2005, 10:00 PM
if you have an ipod mini...does that mean you have the latest technology?

Ashex
01-06-2005, 03:58 AM
not really, the iPod mini, if I'm correct is the 2G of the iPod series, because of it's popularity and it's appeal to consumers with small music libraries, Apple still manufactures it and so they still update the firmware. so do you have the latest programming? yes, latest technology? no.

Alex_Hayden
01-06-2005, 05:21 AM
I'm having a problem. I've got a 4G 20gb iPod + HP, and I've downloaded the wizard, and editied the do not disconnect logo, but I don't have the option in iPod Wizard to load that particular bitmap. Once I get hit index 53 while scrolling through photos, the load bitmap button becomes unavailable. Maybe i need a more current version? Actually, I just checked it, and my version # of the wizard is 1.0.1.0, so I assume I just need a more current version.

Also, as a side note, I don't think I've ever seen the "ok to disconnect" screen. As soon as I eject the iPod from iTunes, my iPod goes to the menu screen. Weird.

Ashex
01-06-2005, 10:45 PM
yeah, the first version didn't have all the images available, the latest version out right now is 1.0.7, and you can get it at http://www.will-burn.net

andyat11
01-09-2005, 08:10 PM
Spongebob for ya lovers

it uses 8-bit colour I think thats fine

Hellsing
01-09-2005, 10:34 PM
Does anyone know how to change the word iPod to something else on the top of the menu?

Im using a 3rd Generation,
Thanks.

Edit: I figured it out,:D

parkerh
01-10-2005, 08:49 PM
I'm really sorry if this has already been posted. I may have already read it, and just didn't know what the crap I was reading.

My problem is this: I'm trying to start out with one little modification to one graphic, not a big deal. I'm using a 4g 20gb on a PC, by the way. So, I changed the sysinfo and used iPodWizard to change the firmware. I opened up the updater, and it said that I was using 3.0.1 and needed to update, which is what I was hoping for. But the update button is grayed out, and I can't figure out how to get at it!

I hope somebody can help me.

Thanks a heap!

parkerh
01-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Ok, I figured out what it was I was doing wrong! I didn't notice that you had to change the hex (I think it's hex?) string before the parentheses. It now worked for updating. However, it still didn't change the graphic. Is there something wrong with the shooty-base thing on the parachute game (index #85)?

ssnxp
01-15-2005, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Hellsing
Does anyone know how to change the word iPod to something else on the top of the menu?

Im using a 3rd Generation,
Thanks.

Edit: I figured it out,:D


SPILL. please, ive been looking for quite a while. can someone please explain how to do this?

stinkiedmb
01-15-2005, 11:02 PM
too bad none of this will work on a shuffle....

yensed
01-16-2005, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by ssnxp
SPILL. please, ive been looking for quite a while. can someone please explain how to do this? Same here. Ive wanted to do that for a LONG time!

Hellsing
01-16-2005, 12:32 PM
Ofcourse,
use the iString program and iPodWizard you can find both here.
http://will-burn.net/index.php

Load your iPod's version firmware, and edit the strings with the iString program, keep what your replacing "iPod" to seven characters or less.

These are the string lines you can edit safely.
001ad670 for 4G
0017D030 for 3G
001995AO for mini

for more help read this
http://will-burn.net/viewtopic.php?t=128

Ashex
01-16-2005, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by stinkiedmb
too bad none of this will work on a shuffle....

the most you could probably do with a shuffle is change the LED's most likely. I still need to get a closer look at one.

Razorwing
01-16-2005, 09:30 PM
does anyone know what happens if you screw up ur ipod? I"m seriously wanting to do this but I'm hesitant in doing it.

stinkiedmb
01-16-2005, 09:47 PM
dont be hesitant. the worst that could possibly happen is the need to do a total restore of the ipod firmware. as long as your songs are backed up somewhere other than on your ipod, youre safe.

Razorwing
01-16-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by stinkiedmb
dont be hesitant. the worst that could possibly happen is the need to do a total restore of the ipod firmware. as long as your songs are backed up somewhere other than on your ipod, youre safe.

uhh. how do I do that?
lol

Superweirdash
01-16-2005, 10:16 PM
The iPod Updater software. Click the button marked "Restore" ;)

Razorwing
01-16-2005, 10:17 PM
no I mean 'back up my music'

yensed
01-16-2005, 10:31 PM
I cant figure out how to change the "ipod" thing...

yensed
01-16-2005, 10:34 PM
I just read that someone tried it and screwed up a string and now his computer doesnt see the ipod so he cant restore it.:eek:

Superweirdash
01-16-2005, 10:35 PM
Back it up... on your computer? As long as all your music is on your comp, you'll be fine.

Razorwing
01-16-2005, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Superweirdash
Back it up... on your computer? As long as all your music is on your comp, you'll be fine.

it's not on my comp :\ and I have like 300+ songs..

Caro9
01-16-2005, 11:15 PM
Are you taking any risks by changing these?

yensed
01-16-2005, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Caro9
Are you taking any risks by changing these? It will void your warranty. And you could screw up your ipod if not done right.

Hellsing
01-17-2005, 01:44 AM
Its so easy just follow the tutorials on the website I posted earlier,
I was worried I would screw it up to and hafta restore it, but it was so easy thing to do im surpised I dind;t do it before, if your very ignorant or inpatient I dont recommend modding your iPod.

Ashex
01-17-2005, 04:42 PM
should you have any problems, go to the iPod wizard site and go to the help section, I have a short tutorial in there about restoring your iPod

shiroitoraichi
01-18-2005, 07:16 PM
I've been reading through iPod Lounge for a while now but only registered a few days ago. My question is on the progress (if any) on getting either iPod Wizard or something similar for the Mac users? I don't have a PC myself and I don't deal with the PC side of the equation here at work. I think either a port of this to the Mac or something similar would be very welcomed by those of us on the Macintosh side of life.

Razorwing
01-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by yensed
It will void your warranty. And you could screw up your ipod if not done right.

so it's like saying customizing XP with new visual styles and icons is voiding it's warranty?

Razorwing
01-20-2005, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by yensed
It will void your warranty. And you could screw up your ipod if not done right.
double post

andrew
01-20-2005, 05:42 PM
i dont think it'll void your warranty, but it's probably illegal. The firmware isn't actually firmware, it's not burned onto the ROM. It's software, and you're allowed to keep whatever you own on your iPod, including software. The problem is you don't own the rights to the firmware so legally you can't edit it. But it's impossible to get caught unless you send it in to Apple, but if you do, you can just reload the original copy of the firmware and its as good as new.

You don't have to back up your files to do this. If you're worried of editing the wrong information, then just keep an extra copy of the original sysinfo. If you see that when you go to update the firmware the only option is to restore, just cancel the process and start again with the copy you made until it gives you the option to update without restoring.

Really, this is ridiculously simple, even for the pc illiterate. The problem is these explanations all use term that make the process sound much harder than it really is.

Razorwing
01-20-2005, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by andrew
i dont think it'll void your warranty, but it's probably illegal. The firmware isn't actually firmware, it's not burned onto the ROM. It's software, and you're allowed to keep whatever you own on your iPod, including software. The problem is you don't own the rights to the firmware so legally you can't edit it. But it's impossible to get caught unless you send it in to Apple, but if you do, you can just reload the original copy of the firmware and its as good as new.

You don't have to back up your files to do this. If you're worried of editing the wrong information, then just keep an extra copy of the original sysinfo. If you see that when you go to update the firmware the only option is to restore, just cancel the process and start again with the copy you made until it gives you the option to update without restoring.

Really, this is ridiculously simple, even for the pc illiterate. The problem is these explanations all use term that make the process sound much harder than it really is.

ahh ok.. but then on the 1st post's link, it states that 'your data will be erased..'.. and I don't want to get rid of my songs etc.