The Truth down on paper about the iPop

[iPulse]

I believe that some of us are getting easily fooled by all this great advertising by Apple.

This is also a guide for those who are still weary on their decision to buy one.

The iPod Photo isn't as great as it is cracked up to be.

So i present you with all the new features, and how they can be bad.

Color Screen
60 Gb
15 hours battery life but has been proven to be 17 hours out of the box.
Slide show

Now, I will tell you what can be bad or what is bad about the features.

Color Screen.
Sounds impressive and looks impressive from the pictures.
Now for those with a digital camera, your screens on your Digicam provide 78,000 pixels and evan more. The iPod Photo only provides 38,720 pixels. The quality is alright, but not exceptional. If you want to carry your pictures around this will do the job, but it wont be exceptional. It is not near what you paid for.

60 gb
Nothin is bad about it, but like all ipods your only getting 56 gb due to system settings.

15 hours battery
Great, out of the box it has proven to be 17 hours, a test done by iPod Lounge has proven.

Slideshow
Are you gona sit on a subway looking at a slide show, and it doesn't even have many capabilities. There is only one transition effect, Apple can surely work on this.

Other Problems
Are Apple listening to user requests?
If Apple were truly doing their research, they would've surely discovered by now that the audio defect problem needs to be fixed. Another thing about listening to the users, where is the customisable equaliser?

Video?
I am not really fussed as i believe it ruins the iPod as being the perfect ON THE GO music player. But i question, why not? Why not add in the video capabilities.

The Price
SIMPLE. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL SPEND THAT MUCH CASH! I am not offending those who have an iPop, i simply believe that it was a stupid choice and they may have been tricked.

Things, I, would personally like to see.
If it were color, the menu interface could've looked a little better.
It should look like OS X 10. Perhaps a different choice in menu as to the list type. Bring back the old font too.

Soo, if you have any more questions or think that I am an idiot or an anti-iPodist, i will answer your questions in a calm manor.

[XDRIVE]

I totally agree with you

I went down to buy the 60GB iPOD photo today...

What made me change my mind was how much more thick it was!

WHOA! Its definately a let down and total rip off

I pitty anyone who will actually spend $600 on this

[aquatika]

Fair enough, but your "truth" might be different from someone elses.

All you are saying, basically, is that the iPod Photo is not for you. It may be the perfect choice for others.

:)

[csrx]

Originally posted by XDRIVE
I totally agree with you

I went down to buy the 60GB iPOD photo today...

What made me change my mind was how much more thick it was!

WHOA! Its definately a let down and total rip off

I pitty anyone who will actually spend $600 on this

I did the same thing a couple of days ago. I went down to the store in SOHO to buy the ipod Photo, but after holding it in my hands, i decided against it.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by iPulse

The Price
SIMPLE. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL SPEND THAT MUCH CASH! I am not offending those who have an iPop, i simply believe that it was a stupid choice and they may have been tricked.


Originally posted by XDRIVE

I pitty anyone who will actually spend $600 on this


rofl... Are you guys for real? If you have an opinion, that's fine, but why slap insults at people making the purchase? I'm sure those of us (myself included) with the inclination to make the purchase could really care less that you apparently think we're "crazy, stupid, and worth pitty" for making the purchase, but it's getting a little old.

Something important to realize here is that money is a relative thing. Let's consider this post I read on "Third World Country - Starving Desert Farmers - Sony (Tape) Walkman Forum" forum. I'll translate the post for you. "Those stupid ipod people are crazy. Do they realize how much food they could buy for the $399? I'm more than happy with my Sony tape player, and I pitty anyone stupid enough to spent that much money on an ipod. Stupid move. Idiots."

Okay, I made that up, but you get the point. :)

The only REAL complaint being posted is the price. I doubt if Apple offered to replace all earlier iPods with a new iPod photo that half of these complaints would be occuring. "Forget it apple, I don't want the longer battery life, color display, and photo capability. Keep your stupid iPod Photo. I'm og ipod all the way, you stupid losers." :) Right.

Share and enjoy...

--bit

[MBHockey]

i also saw how thick the 60 gb model was in the apple store in the palisades center mall. Pictures looked okay, the color LCD is real nice, but it is just really, really thick for an iPod.

[csrx]

Yeah, size killed it for me. I was ready to give them the $600, but I walked away instead. The screen was nice, it took a couple of seconds to load the thumbnails. I know they will slim down the form factor, and thats when I will buy.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by csrx
Yeah, size killed it for me. I was ready to give them the $600, but I walked away instead. The screen was nice, it took a couple of seconds to load the thumbnails. I know they will slim down the form factor, and thats when I will buy.

The difference between the 40GB 4g (or the 30GB) is 1.5 millimeters... And holding them hand-in-hand side-by-side, it's difficult to discern a difference. But I can see how, for some people, the iPod 20G is at their limit when it comes to thickness. The difference between the 20G and the 40G is 3 millimeters. So the total difference between a 20G and a Photo model is 4.5 millimeters. I agree that all ipods are a little big, actually. It'll be nice when they get all ipods down in profile close to what sony has done with the Sony NW-HD1.

[cpn.luckycharms]

wow so many noobs in one forum...

ok, well, as you are allowed to express your opinion, slamming them for it isnt the smartest way to go about it though...
Again, your are saying this product isnt for you...
Video capabilities may not even be in the future, if you read around the ipod news (in ipodlounge) there isnt a want or need to view movies on that small of a player, although some may want that feature, majority wins...
Hoo.... ok apple never listens to their customers, they dont want input, if you have read any other forums, you would see this, in most situations regarding a product of apple and a suggestion, apple doesnt even listen, sucks I know, but hey, what can you do?
the price is alittle high, but to slam someone for buying it is very ignorant and immature, apple is making a killing because of the ipod photo, many people want the 60Gig version, and are willing to spend that much.
However, the menu, I agree with you, it is time for a change, with new capabilities comes new changes, the interface should be made easier, maybe that of the Sony ericsson phone...


i would like to say these words are not mine, they are the brainchild of Doug Gilmour
and my conversation over AIM, the sony ericsson thing was all his though!

[jough]

I would love to discuss things in a "calm manor." Perhaps down by the pool? ;)

Yeah, the iPP isn't all it's cracked up to be - but it's a 1.0 product. Wait for future versions when they work out the bugs if you don't need to be an early adopter.

[iPulse]

jough is right, we should wait it out, but i mean, soon enough people will mod their iPod Photos and put on programs and ####...see thread about linux on a iPod

[kloan]

IT'S NOT CALLED iPOP!!!! STOP CALLING IT THAT!!!!

and to those complaining about the thickness.. you guys are spoiled.. compare it to ANY other hd-based mp3 player out there and tell me if it's still too big.. it's really pathetic to complain about 1.5mm difference. i have a 3rd gen 40gb, which is the same size, and there's no problem with it. still fits in my hand, my pocket, etc with no issues. do you have little girly baby hands that cant hold onto anything bigger than your [sensored]??

[holy_cow]

Originally posted by iPulse
60 gb
Nothin is bad about it, but like all ipods your only getting 56 gb due to system settings.


Isn't this due to the difference between the way your computer calculates drive size and the way the drive manufacturers calculate it? Is that what you mean when you say 'System settings'? In that case, it's just something that you come across whenever you deal with hard disk drives, not just the iPod's.

Originally posted by iPulse
60 gbThe Price
SIMPLE. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL SPEND THAT MUCH CASH! I am not offending those who have an iPop, i simply believe that it was a stupid choice and they may have been tricked.

Actually, I think you might have offended quite a few people, you know, by saying they are not in their right minds, make stupid choices and are prone to being tricked. :p

Originally posted by iPulse
Perhaps a different choice in menu as to the list type.

I agree that they should have put in different (in my opinion, album art-based) options for menus, to make full use of the new screen. Maybe a firmware update will solve that.

Originally posted by XDRIVE
What made me change my mind was how much more thick it was!

WHOA! Its definately a let down and total rip off


This is pretty funny, especially to a 10GB 2G owner who thinks that the 20GB 4Gs are so thin it's miraculous. To me, something that's about the same size as mine but packs in so much more is definitely worth the upgrade. I guess the 20GB models have just spoiled everyone as far as size is concerned. But seriously, you people make it sound as though you're being asked to lug a cinder block around in your trouser pockets. People even use the word 'brick'. If that's the case, then I must be some sort of tough guy, seeing as how I haven't had a problem with carrying around my 'brick' of an iPod, with its 'paltry' 10GB, for the better part of two years. Can we please have some objectivity here?

The same goes for price. I can spend Singapore $100 more than what I spent for my iPod back in the day and get something with 4 times the capacity, a colour screen, a dock, USB support and TV out, not to mention the various features made possible thanks to peripherals. People have always griped about iPods being too expensive, right from the beginning, so it's no surprise it's happening now. Also, I don't think enough attention is being paid to the fact that this explains the price drop on the 4G iPods, to a certain extent. That was done to facilitate the introduction of the iPod Photos as top-of-the-line models. I don't understand why people have such a problem paying high-end money for high-end models, that's just the way the market works. If you want something cheaper, buy the regular iPods. People are constantly complaining about iRiver or Archos offering so much more than the iPod, but costing less, well, if that's the case then go and get one of their bride-of-Frankenstein all-purpose players, and stop grumbling. Let's admit it: if you buy an iPod, you pay for the look, the design and the prestige, over and above the functionality. If you're going to complain about that you might as well start writing a thesis on the flaws of the modern capitalist economy. The fact is, a Mazda may last longer, and even perform better, than a Merc but you still pay more for the German car.

Originally posted by XDRIVE
I pitty anyone who will actually spend $600 on this


Ummm...perhaps pity is not the right feeling to have for people who've got money to burn. Don't you think your pity would be better spent on people who want iPod Photos, but have no money for them? :)

Originally posted by kloan
IT'S NOT CALLED iPOP!!!! STOP CALLING IT THAT!!!!


You took the words right out of my fingers. I don't know whose idea this was, but please, in the words of Jon Stewart: Stop.

[Stevie61]

I don't see why everyone is complaining about the iPod Photo(real name).Maybe your mad because you just bought a 4g and they came out with it?

[ridethetrip]

wowww im so shocked to see such negativity w/ the new ipod
maybe im nuts but holding that baby in my hands was orgasmic LOL the color screen makes it..its how its intended to be!

[honeybee1236]

Here is the thread that started the name iPop then iPoP. (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54697)

[holy_cow]

Aha! The villains have been unearthed!

You know what I think should be done, if it's possible, the word 'iPop' should be banned and censored out on these forums. Heehee. :p

[Havo]

I just ordered my 40gb ipod photo. It's a bit pricey but its only a little more than the 4g 40gb. It's only like a mm or so thicker too. I really need that extra battery life cuz I hate charging my ipod like everyday. I hafta go to work sumtimes and dont have time to charge it cuz i wanna bring it with me to listen on the trip there. The color aspect is a big bonus. I'll report more once it comes.

[Durty Devil]

Buy a mini and save 250 bucks

[iPulse]

Minis arn't value for money. Pay 100 bucks more and then you can get a 20 gb 4G :) Smart.

[zerock]

well to the topic starter saying the screen onl 38,000 colors, well look at this from apple.com : Sharp, vivid 2-inch Color LCD screen displays more than 65 thousand colors

[Sair]

I just saw an iPod photo last night and they do look pretty awesome, but they are not, for me, worth the extra cash.
For me it is all about the music, and my 4g 20 GB baby isn't even two months old and I am completely happy and attached to it. The photo function is good, but it would've been cool if apple would have invented a completely new player rather than the iPod. They claim to be innovators, and proved that with the iPod. I just think they could've done better and started their 60GB digital music and photo players in a new format, if they had innovated and done that I think many, including those on this forum would be far more interested.

That is just my little opinion though. For those who have the cash, and need the latest toy, spend away and don't get mad at those who think you shouldn't do it. I mean honestly, some people always want new toys, and who can blame them. New toys are fun. Others, like me are content with their very first iPod and having their entire music collection in their hand still amazes them....perspective people, perspective.

[Nitr0]

I also am quite surprised at all the negitivity on this thread. I was a proud owner of a 3g 20 gig ipod. Full most of the time, battery didn't last too long. Then the great item, 60gig ipod photo was released and my dreams came true. I really can't notice that big a difference in size.. Everyone who says my cash was wasted on this item is sorely mistaken as this is the best ipod I have seen. Of course I'm never going to use the slideshow features but having all my album art and everything slick looking in the Now playing option just looks great.. If you have the cash, get it. Don't let the people saying "It's too thick!" sway you.

[Stevie61]

Thats the thing tho alot of people don' have the cash . if apple decresed the price of the iPod they would have alot more buyers.

[chris@allmotor]

I bought an ipod photo, I love it, there is nothing you could ever say to make me regret spending the money on it. :)

[R32_Nakazato]

Man, I really want one now. Seems like there are a bunch of complaints about the size. They seem to be the same size as the 40gbs though.

[chris@allmotor]

Originally posted by R32_Nakazato
Man, I really want one now. Seems like there are a bunch of complaints about the size. They seem to be the same size as the 40gbs though.

only complaints about the size are from people who dont own one, or much less even held one...everytime I hear a complaint about the size, it sounds like a jealous 15 yr old.

[Nitr0]

http://homepage.mac.com/t.obara/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2004-10-29%2011.50.31%20-0700/Image-4A0680A129D811D9.jpg


<SARCASM> Break out the weights. You are going to need to do some heavy upper body work before you can even think of lifting the photo </SARCASM>

iPod Photo is on the left

[Havo]

I agree. The iPod photo is not even a mm thicker and it only weighs 0.2 ounces more. That is a very insignificant difference comapred to the 4g 40gb ipod. I usually find people who have the thinner and lighter 20gb model complain about the photo ipods.

[MOCKBA]

I completely disagree, iPho is good, actualy vey good, see:
Color Screen.
It's not only for photos, the current b/w display is really bad and it's difficult to find album or song, so color makes much difference. If you want to share your photos with friend, why you need to bring a digital camera, anyway you also restricted flash memory size.


60 gb
56 is better than 38, right?

15 hours battery
No comments 17h is enough, you need sometime to sleep anyway.

Slideshow
Very useful to show on TV screen for friends.

Other Problems
Are Apple listening to user requests?
Who cares about sound quality for compressed music?

Video?
Screen is so small so it isn't good for video.

The Price
Price looks Ok for such prestige device.

Good job Apple!

[iPulse]

Dudes and Dudettes, Just a thought...

remember the first generation iPod? Well at first it was perfect, but then came the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen, each time the iPod got better.

So basically, some of you are asking "What are you on about iPulse?"

Well the iPod Photo is the first of its kind, just like the iPod 1st gen, it can get better and it will get better, I pose a question though.....

Do you wait for it to get better or get carried away and buy it now?

[Nitr0]

If you're always waiting for something better to come along. You'll never buy anything.

[Enigma]

can someone tell me how much the original 5gb ipod was when it came out?

[ginalee]

They were $399 (http://www.ipodlounge.com/articles_more.php?id=4280_0_8_0_M)

I have to confess that Stevie's presentation on the ipod photo really made me very tempted to buy one, no matter the size.

The price just has to come down though, short on cash at the moment.

[M3wThr33]

1) The 56GB outcome is not due to Apple. It's due to hard drive logic. All drives are like this. Cram it.
2) That battery life is phenomenal
3) A lot more people use photos than you think. We call it ALBUM ART.
4) It also added scrolling text on the browse menus and a bigger resolution, something I'm DESPERATE for.

Stop #####ing like you own this place.

[holy_cow]

Originally posted by Stevie61
Thats the thing tho alot of people don' have the cash . if apple decresed the price of the iPod they would have alot more buyers.

It's not unusual for a company that are associated with prestige products, such as Apple, not to make the effort to keep prices low, or even to artificially keep them high, with the express intention of preventing too many people from buying. Less people paying more can work out to the same as more people paying less.

Think about this: with the price drop on the 4Gs, lots more people are going to own iPods, provided the current trend continues. As it is, iPods are starting to be seen as ubiquitous devices. I have a feeling Apple don't want to let the iPod lose its luxury-product halo, so they released these most-expensive-ever, top-of-the-line iPod Photos. From the way the general reception is going on these forums and others, quite a few people are going to be turned off by the price. Maybe this is the idea, because it means iPod Photos will retain that aura of out-of-your-reach luxury. Helps with the branding. Case in point: it's widely rumoured that BMW will be doing a similar sort of thing with next year's new 3-series. Too many on the road threatens their iconic status. Like it or not, that's modern marketing for you. I think Apple've been quite smart in attemptiong to sell more of the regular iPods while safeguarding the brand with the Photos.

Actually, I personally wouldn't really mind being the only person in town with an iPod Photo. :p

[zerock]

i used to have a 3g, and i really needed 60 gigs, a lot of 4g features, + photo features so this was worth it to me, i gets here on monday :)

[ailean]

Can anyone tell me if it supports album art with MP3's or is this an Apple audio format only feature?

[baggss]

Originally posted by iPulse
Color Screen.
Sounds impressive and looks impressive from the pictures.
Now for those with a digital camera, your screens on your Digicam provide 78,000 pixels and evan more. The iPod Photo only provides 38,720 pixels. The quality is alright, but not exceptional. If you want to carry your pictures around this will do the job, but it wont be exceptional. It is not near what you paid for.

People have been #####ing in here for YEARS about the iPod needing a color screen. They finally give it one and some noob #####ed that it sucks. Geez, don't buy one if you don't like it.

60 gb
Nothin is bad about it, but like all ipods your only getting 56 gb due to system settings.

Do you even KNOW why it's only 56Gb? Don't blame Apple or even MS for this one. Do some research. :rolleyes:

15 hours battery
Great, out of the box it has proven to be 17 hours, a test done by iPod Lounge has proven.

Why is this bad? Again, folks have been complaining for years and now your telling us 17 hours is BAD?

Slideshow
Are you gona sit on a subway looking at a slide show, and it doesn't even have many capabilities. There is only one transition effect, Apple can surely work on this.

The usefulness of this is subjective at best. Some will like it, some won't.

Other Problems
Are Apple listening to user requests?
If Apple were truly doing their research, they would've surely discovered by now that the audio defect problem needs to be fixed. Another thing about listening to the users, where is the customisable equaliser?

I've had my gen 1 for 3 years. I have NEVER had a need for a customizable EQ. This is also VERY subjective.

Video?
I am not really fussed as i believe it ruins the iPod as being the perfect ON THE GO music player. But i question, why not? Why not add in the video capabilities.

The iPod is intended to be a MUSIC player, not a video player. First you ##### that the screen is to small to look at pictures then you complain the iPod doesn't do video. Which is it?

The Price
SIMPLE. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL SPEND THAT MUCH CASH! I am not offending those who have an iPop, i simply believe that it was a stupid choice and they may have been tricked.

I find the fact that you feel the need to lecture us on why you don't like the iPod Photo offensive in and of itself. Accusing those of us who are interested in it of making a "stupid choice" is not winning any of us over to your argument, and is making you look stupid. Being that I am "stoopid" I guess I fall into this category though. I'm going to spend $600 on one of these. Am I buying it for the color screen? No. The Picture capability? No. I'm buying it because I can keep roughly 1/3rd of my music on it vice 1/18th on my Gen 1. THAT IS worth $600 to me. Please explain how I am being "tricked" :rolleyes:

Things, I, would personally like to see.
If it were color, the menu interface could've looked a little better.
It should look like OS X 10. Perhaps a different choice in menu as to the list type. Bring back the old font too.

The OSX look would be nice, the rest is subjective at best.

You make some interesting points but most of them are subjective. You may not like them but there are those of us who do. Don't be so foolish as to lead yourself into believing that you have some insight and the rest of us need to be educated by you. If I choose to spend my money, what business is it of yours? I have specific reasons for wanting one of these (listed above) that make all of your little whiney complaints pointless.

Bottom line, if you don't like it, don't buy it, but please, don't lecture the rest of us.

[nagromme]

Played with one in person at CompUSA. My opinion? I went home and ordered the 60 :D

Misc. things I noticed...

* Size: bigger than the B&W 40... but still nice and sleek. I've always liked the 4G design better than any other iPod anyway--although the Mini's a close second and feels just TINY (which is cool).

* Screen: great! Perfectly usable even without backlight... it actually made me think the light was still on at maybe 1/3 brightness. But that will vary with room lighting. Sometimes you'll NEED the backlight--and it will always look better with it. Looked fine when not viewed head-on too.

* Slideshow transitions are a really slick SOFT wipe (true soft edge, not LCD ghosting since this thing has no ghosting that I could see). Wipe reverses when you skip back--nice touch.

* Wheel-browsing through full-screen photos really IS fast! Wow. There's a brief pre-load delay when you view the first one.

* While browsing photos you can hit Play to start a slideshow from that point.

Watching my mailbox...

[iPulse]

Here are some pics I made of the Ipod Photo with OSX

I call it

iPod Photo OSX (what a coicidence?)

[iPulse]

Close up pic

[Nitr0]

That looks quite ugly

[iPulse]

Yeah mate, I am sure apple could do better.

But if apple made something like my picture, i wouldn't want it exactly like my pic, just somehting along the lines of it

[baggss]

I kind of like it actually.....

[Nitr0]

It's too small though. I can't read anything and the main menu should obviously be spread out.

[Stevie61]

too small u need glasses.And i also like that format.

[iPulse]

Yeah, Thanks guys, but perhaps It could be improved, any suggestions cause then I could work on it.

Also, some tech nerds have to be out there working on a program or somethin that allows you to change the interface of your ipod photo

[OstropoloS]

Omg !! Stop complaining on how thick it is ... I have an iPod photo 60 GBs and i find it really comfortable to use ... a 20 gbs normal ipod is probably not as thick but wtf ... It's like a freaking toy when u use it ...

[OstropoloS]

Between if u peeps still didnt realise ... But the normal iPod has like 1 fps lol seriously ... When u scroll down the list u cant c #### ... Whereas in the ipod photo everything is clear it's like 100 fps ... The only disadvantage for me is that the battery will run out quicker when u look at pics or play games ... But that's it ... I like everything else about it ... Btw plz no one come and tell me no it isnt 100 fps it's 34.54325324 or some #### like that ... I dont care about numbers

[OstropoloS]

Originally posted by iPulse
Close up pic

Wow man ... sexy ... I guess u made it on Mac ... Is there a way u can do this on windows ?

[iPulse]

I made those pics on a windows. I wish i had a mac.

[TrueFunkSoldier]

O.K., guys! I am an avid music love and an avid runner! I LOVE my iPod 60g photo and I don't care what anyone says! Some ladies are into shopping, some people spend more in a week on dining out and groceries! I have over 2,000 cd's! For someone like me with a large collection, the iPod is ideal. Complain on, but I also run a lot and my iPod keeps me moving; it's so much better than having to lug around an mp3 or cd walkman (I used to do that a lot and tire of listening to the same CD over and over). Now I can essentially take most of my collection, download to my iPod and have my choosing. If I tire of running to House; I can turn on to acid jazz or classic rock! The iPod is the greatest invention God every made besides Jesus Christ himself.

Some of you dissing the iPod--photo and all--need to go and buy yourselves a tall glass of haterade! I'm dusting off my shoulders! ;)

[Nitr0]

jesus, 5 month revival thread.

[iPulse]

Yeah, well you know how you select the lil box that says, email me to notify me when "subject" has been updated or posted on. Yeah, well iPodlounge are a bit slow with the sending of the emails.

[rjahrman]

How are they ripping people off?

$300:
20 GB
Black and White Screen
12 Hours Battery

$350:
30 GB
Color Screen
16+ Hours Battery
1 millimeter thicker

Idiots.

Originally posted by iPulse
think that I am an idiot . . . calm manor.

Enough said.

[iPulse]

yeah, i wrote that post 5 months ago or so, and the ipod photos were expensive then..soooo

[Alpyne_88]

Well, why don't you just get an iRiver?
Video, better battery, camera connection, requires no software at all, play more file formats than iPod can, even has the basic of most basic - a radio of all things! And you can record from it....
I mean, if you want features, by simple logic, side by side comparisons, it's a better buy. But yes it's indeed ugly.

The biggest reason i sold my iPod, would be the lack of versatility.
I bought one, then my flatmate bought one and attempted to sync to my iTunes and flog my music.
We did a bit of digging, and found out the ugly truth - one iPod, one computer. Two computers in the same household is simply not realistic in many cases.

[rjahrman]

And a Daewoo does everything that a Mustang does.

Don't know about you, but I would have to go with the Mustang. :)

[OstropoloS]

Hey ipulse man ... what was the pic exactly ? was it ur ipod or a pic u made ? And how did u make it if it was ur ipod ?! Did u hack into ur firmware ?

[Daveoc64]

Alpyne_88

We did a bit of digging, and found out the ugly truth - one iPod, one computer. Two computers in the same household is simply not realistic in many cases.

That is not true at all, you can use one iPod on any number of computers OR any number of iPods on one computer.

[Johnny A]

omg won't everyone stop whining!
Simple - If you dont like the iPod Photo don't buy one.
Dont bag people who DO like the photo and DID buy one.

[punxking]

To the original poster, a few songs on my iPod Photo:

"Hey Jealousy"
"Jealous Again"
"Green Eyed Monster"
"Jealousy"

As the saying goes, opinions are like ***holes, everyone's got one...

[Thechef]

Wow there’s some very single minded jealous people out there!!

To be honest I couldn't give a damn what other people think (I admit it slightly hypercritical me responding to this thread... but hey...)
I bought my first IPod a Shuffle the week it came out in the UK - saw it by chance on some website, liked it, bought it. Its luckily perfect for what I want to use it for – since I only got one ‘cause it looked nice. I can certainly see why some people don’t like it – I don’t think any worse of them we all have different ideas and opinions. That’s life.

Now I’ve got the Ipod bug (no pun intended). I got thinking I’d like to hold my entire music collection in one handy place. Therefore one Ipod and a docking station, plugged into each of my stereos and a car kit would be perfect. So I did a bit of research – originally thought about the 30gb photo as 20gb was just too small. But had a change of heart and thought I’d splash out the extra cash to get a 60Gb photo. Yes it might bigger but blimey it’s got not only my entire music collection – some 25gb but also my entire photo collection – another 7gb. And still just over half full so plenty of room for new music. And people complain about 1.5mm??!! But again… We all have different tastes and needs; therefore we all buy different products hence a healthy competition for our cash.

So let’s leave this rather one-sided un-imaginative thread and worry about something worth worrying about. Like my shuffle removing songs every time I plug it in!!

[gbarill]

yeah i don't understand this whole thickness argument either... i have the 60gb photo, my brother has the 40gb photo, and though i haven't yet seen them side by side, they didn't feel any different to me... i mean, all ipods (full size that is) are the same size, just different thicknesses.
someone, PLEASE show me a case where an extra 4.5mm of thickness (max!) would prevent you from using an ipod... honestly, if it will fit in your pocket at the 20gb's thickness, i see no reason why a 60gb would be an more inconvenient...

the argument is ridiculous, in my opinion...

[MOCKBA]

You want too much. Believe me Apple works hard on:
- improving graphics
- UI and usability
- adding movie playback
- and much more I can't disclosure due my NDA with Apple
So, I suggest to buy iPod Photo and only Photo for now if you can't wait. It's the best player on market. if you can wait, just wait for 6 months and you will be amazed.