New iPod Photo 40 sitting next to me... new photos inside...

[bitsculptor]

I had just picked up a Ipod 4G 40 last weekend, to be smacked by the release of the new device days later. Luckily, I'm in my return window on the 4G, so it's shipping back tomorrow. An Apple store not too far from my location (the Northridge, California store) actually had several Iphoto 40s in stock today [5 left for anyone in the area who is interested]. They didn't have a display model, but one of the clerks was showing off his personal unit. Honestly, the color display is awesome, and after playing with it a bit, I just couldn't justify not spending the extra $100ish for the upgrade. I could really care less about the photo functionality, but the extra battery life, color display, and cover-art feature would have left me wishing for the iphoto. One more thing for people comparing the devices: the extra size and weight isn't even noticable. I held the 4G 40 and the iphoto side by side and couldn't tell. You can hardly tell when you put them back to back, actually. I can't wait for this bad-boy to finishing charging so I can upload my library!

Later...

--Bitsculptor

(edited to [try] to change the subject line to indicate new photos)

[Blue_Dawg]

You need to post some pics!!!

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by Blue_Dawg
You need to post some pics!!!

Agreed, show a few songs being played, please! :)

-Dan

[bigmouse64]

Pictures please, nice story too, lucky. :P

[bitsculptor]

The iphoto isn't the only thing charging right now. :) I'm charging up my digital camera batteries, and then I'll start snapping some pictures of this sexy beast.

[screw]

do you need to complete charging to upload songs? i thought you could do it regardless... :)

[crazy_azz_mat]

PLZ STOP STOP!!!! the people who are just out of the return window of like 3 days are sitting at home crying...PLZ FOR THE CHILDREN

[bitsculptor]

I'm pretty sure you're right, but they recommend you charge it fully before the first use. Also, as I learned with the 4G, it heats up quite a bit during a long transfer (like the initial dump of your library to the pod). I doubt those high-heat conditions are good for the charging battery.

[screw]

Oooh... fully charge before the first use? I recall i couldnt wait that long when i first opened up the box. Started downloading my songs after installing iTunes... hopei didn't do any permanent damage to my batt.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by crazy_azz_mat
PLZ STOP STOP!!!! the people who are just out of the return window of like 3 days are sitting at home crying...PLZ FOR THE CHILDREN

Ouch, that hurts Crazzy_azz_mat... Your situation isn't without hope, though. If I was 3 days beyound the return window, and felt the draw of the iphoto, I'd consider ebaying. :)

--Bitsculptor

[xx Emo Kills]

i envy you.

post some pics and be my hero.

[bigmouse64]

Originally posted by crazy_azz_mat
PLZ STOP STOP!!!! the people who are just out of the return window of like 3 days are sitting at home crying...PLZ FOR THE CHILDREN

Did you order online? Did you sign for the parcel when it arrived?

Because if you ordered online and didn't have to sign for the parcel you could just phone Apple or whoever you bought it from and say it arrived late, hence making the window a long time.

[bitsculptor]

Here are some picks I just took... they came out pretty poor... especially the pictures of the unit itself. I'm crashing for the night, but I'll take some better quality pictures of the unit, in action, tomorrow when it's charged.

box 1:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143518

box 2:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143519

box 3:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143520

box 4:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143521

cables:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143529

front 1:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143523

front 2:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143524

front 3:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143526

back 1:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143527

back 2:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143528

[jtorchy]

Sexsay!

Though since I don't have a digital camera, I have no use for a ipod photo model. I'm well happy with my 4th gen, 40 gig model :)

[axxman]

Nice pics, I am jealous.

How about a pic of it connected to the tv?

is it necessary to use the docking station to connect it to the tv?

[cheezhead999]

I am soooo jealous. I am still in my return window, but I only have a 20GB, so I don't think I could spend $200 for an extra photo feature I probably wouldn't use. Anyway, good luck with your iPod.

[~tl]

Originally posted by axxman
is it necessary to use the docking station to connect it to the tv?
Nope! You can get composite out through the headphone jack of the iPod itself, but if you want S-Video out then you need the dock.

TOM

[bigmouse64]

Wow, it looks nice, some picture or it actaully functioning would be cool too. Only if you have the time though.

[Capello]

better not get the BRAND NEW back scratched up :o

[bitsculptor]

By popular demand, here are some pics of the unit in action...

Tracks playing:

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143628
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143624
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143625
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143627

Some pics of the menus/etc:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143629
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143630
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143632

The most awesome thing about this baby is the new typeface. It allows more of the album/track/etc to fit on screen. On top of that, this thing scrolls the name of the album/track/etc (whatever you're browsing) IN THE MENUS. That was my biggest complaint about the ipod... you had to keep somewhat short playlist names so they'd on screen. Not any longer!

Later...

--bitsculptor

[Mina]

That is so hot!!!!!!!!

Mina.

[cheezhead999]

Do you know if they have a skin for that yet. I know I would have a skin for that before I opened it, but that's just me and my new iPod...lol.

[Stevie61]

As much as i like it its too expensive come on apple................here in Canada its $800 + tax and then warrenty on top of that its a friggin 1000 purchase.But it is nice and i love that color screen.

[zerock]

it was expensive, but i was saving for a new ipod for over a year now

[chris@allmotor]

why didnt you drop the extra 100 for the 60? it practically pays for itself in accessories.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by chris@allmotor
why didnt you drop the extra 100 for the 60? it practically pays for itself in accessories.

I probably would have picked up the 60 if it was in stock when I purchased this one. But about the accesories paying for themselves, both come with identical accessories (dock and the carrying case). My library just isn't big enough to make a difference. I currently use less than 15G of my storage space. I'm sure I'll break the 20G threshold, but I can imagine I'll exceed 40G in the next several years.

Originally posted by cheezhead999
Do you know if they have a skin for that yet. I know I would have a skin for that before I opened it, but that's just me and my new iPod...lol.

No skins yet, but I'm going to modify my Contour case today. The case has four extended rubber lifts on in its back. Even if these weren't present, there are two smaller rubber protectors which would keep it off the case. It seems with a razor blade I'll be able to trim back the tall rubber lifts (to the same height as the smaller ones). I'm almost certain the photo will fit perfectly after the mod. I'll let you know how it goes.

--bit

[zerock]

im patiently waiting for my 60 gig , i hope i made the right choice getting it now, also the scrolling in the menu for long sentences its good.. i really wanted to get a u2pod, but all the features won me over and considering my music library its about 35 gigs, so i needed the extra space the 60 gig gives.

[axxman]

I want that thing bad, I cannot justify it until I buy my new digital SLR, what would really make it perfect would be the ability to connect the camera directly and download the photos.

Anyhow, I guess I will have to make due with my mini for a year or so until I can afford this iPhoto.

[zerock]

i guess maybe some future updates will make it directly transfer from a digital cam, i hope so.

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by Stevie61
As much as i like it its too expensive come on apple................here in Canada its $800 + tax and then warrenty on top of that its a friggin 1000 purchase.But it is nice and i love that color screen.

It is expensive, but it's not $800.. that's for a 60GB, he got a 40GB. Also if you order a 40GB from Apple.ca it comes out to $640 + Tax, still pricey, but it's only around 110 more than the 4G 40GB...

I will be upgrading my year old 3G 10GB when the 5Gs are relased. I will probably go for the 40GB, but may splurge on a 60GB.. I was going to buy a 4G 40GB this summer, but decided to save up for an iBook, which I received a month ago..

It's very nice to have a job, now I have a steady flow of money, unlike just half a year ago when I would need to wait for Christmas or my Birthday for some money.. :)

-Dan

[bitsculptor]

Well, I just got done with the modification to my Contour Showcase 4G case, and it fits like a glove!

Here are the pics:

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143745
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143746
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143748

This is the pic of the back panel where the modification (butchery) took place!
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=143747

I'll post more details on the (simple) mod process in the gear forum...

--bit

[Stevie61]

It is 800 $ here in Canada we have different money then you and i belive the 60 is $799 so.............

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by Stevie61
It is 800 $ here in Canada we have different money then you and i belive the 60 is $799 so.............

Umm.. I am Canadian... On Apple.ca you can get a educational discount, which takes $60 or so off of the iPods. So as I said the 40GB, which the thread starter purchased, costs $640 + Tax after the educational discount.

-Dan

[Stevie61]

O srry doug but i can't get the educational discount...and i don't really want one anyways lol

[Kristiano]

Now that is hot. If I had some cash, I would get that.

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by Stevie61
O srry doug but i can't get the educational discount...and i don't really want one anyways lol

If you buy anything from www.apple.ca you can click educational discount and shoose K-12 Faculty and you will be given a pretty good discount, no ID required.. I saved about $200 off of my iBook from that..

-Dan

[saxton]

any pics of it live on a tv?

Dan :)

[Maroon_tiger]

yeah i got one.... the guy at the apple store told me to come back next week (on monday) but i decided to call them friday out of the blue and they had it....and got the 60gb......

it is completely beautifull.... im gonna def. make sure this one gets no scratches on the back...

you turn it on for the first time and see the color apple icon...

i havent put any photos on it... i really wont want to... i just want music.. and the album art..

the album art really sets it off...i can look at art and enlarge the picture when i want...

i wish it was 80gb, cuz i need something to keep up with me...

[ThinkDifferent]

I was not satisfied at all with the iPod Photo. The only feature that caught my eye was the album art while the song was playing. I think, with all of these improvements some major ones could have / should have been made. Let's see.....built in microphone for recording (Doubles as mic for mac), POSSIBLY built in camera (Cell phones do it) but I can understand where that would go wrong. I am content with my 4G 20GB.

[bigman606]

I just noticed (haven't truly looked at iPods since I had a 3G model) but noticed that the remote is no longer included with the top 1 or 2 models in the iPod line. Maybe I'm late to the party, but just an observation.

[perfmode]

Originally posted by ThinkDifferent
I was not satisfied at all with the iPod Photo. The only feature that caught my eye was the album art while the song was playing. I think, with all of these improvements some major ones could have / should have been made. Let's see.....built in microphone for recording (Doubles as mic for mac), POSSIBLY built in camera (Cell phones do it) but I can understand where that would go wrong. I am content with my 4G 20GB.

I guess a color screen,15hr battery life, album art, photo viewing and 40gb for the same price as the 3g 40gb just didn't do it for you eh?

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by bigman606
I just noticed (haven't truly looked at iPods since I had a 3G model) but noticed that the remote is no longer included with the top 1 or 2 models in the iPod line. Maybe I'm late to the party, but just an observation.

I'm a new pod junkie, so I wasn't aware the top models used to include it. I'd much rather have a free remote than the cheesy belt -case and mini burlap (okay, it's not burlap but it's close enough) carrying sack they included. :)

[thedjstott]

Originally posted by bitsculptor
I'm a new pod junkie, so I wasn't aware the top models used to include it. I'd much rather have a free remote than the cheesy belt -case and mini burlap (okay, it's not burlap but it's close enough) carrying sack they included. :)

Yep they certainly did include them my 20GB 2G came with the remote which now doesn't work:mad:

So I am now used to not having one, so probably won't purchase one when I get my 60GB iPod Photo.

[jaypod]

All of the pics in this thread convinced me to order the 60 gig model this week. It looks amazing. Maybe I will wait a bit but it is so damn enticing.

[ipodforsale]

do you know if you can get rid of the photo option in the main menu?

i know with the 3G's you choose what you want displayed in the main menu i was wondering if you could do the same with the photoipods

[nagromme]

Thanks! I have to get me one :) A few Qs:

1. Can you get the Now Playing / album art screens to appear on TV? Or only slideshows?

2. Can you browse photos--instead of just giving a slideshow--on TV? (In other words... can you use the 5x5 thumbnail view on TV, or in full-screen view can you use the wheel to shuttle quickly through photos on TV?)

3. What are the photo transitions like?

4. If you have multiple iCal calendars in different colors, do you see those multiple colors on the screen? Or the whole month just colored blue without regard for iCal's color?

5. Could you by any chance give us a list of everything that's available under Customize Main Menu?

6. Can you FINALLY tell one-eyed jacks from regular jacks in Solitaire? ;) j/k

[Mr. Hinky Dink]

Now come on, you all knew there was a rumored bigger, better, faster, stronger iPod in the works. No use crying about it. Even now there is probably an 80gig video version in the pipeline. It's the next logical step from photo capabilities. Me, for the price and for what this new iPod does, I think I'll hold off for the video version. Then I think the iPod will be maxed out. Audio and video, what else is there? Silly for me to spend nearly a grand now (i'm in Australia) only to have to spend another grand this time next year. For now the iBook does the same thing, it's just a bit bigger.

[archurban]

wow! it's so nice. I wish that I can have it. but I won't because it's expensive, and has nothing but photo feature addition. you need Belkin photo media reader($100), and so on. so total cost including accesories will be big money I have to pay. I had better wait for 5G ipod, and powerbook G5 next year. iphoto software is still really good to edit, modify pictures.

[archurban]

wow! it's so nice. I wish that I can have it. but I won't because it's expensive, and has nothing but photo feature addition. you need Belkin photo media reader($100), and so on. so total cost including accesories will be big money I have to pay. I had better wait for 5G ipod, and powerbook G5 next year. iphoto software is still really good to edit, modify pictures.

[iPulse]

The screen looks tacky and the backlight or light on it looks weak.
Can you take some pics of it working in the dark? And a picture of it with the apple logo on the screen if possible?

[jasonland]

Hey,

I have a question about the colour screen. On most cellphones with colour screens, the screen is nearly impossible to see without the backlight on. The same applies to the colour iRiver. Once the backlight goes off, the screen goes almost black.

The thing I love about the black and white iPods is that the screen is sharp and easy-to-read even when the backlight is off. I was wondering if the same applies to the colour screened iPods.

Namely, is it feasible to use the iPod with the backlight switched off?

Thanks

[Lestat]

I am very interested to know if I could use an iPod Photo to show a PowerPoint presentation (after converting all the slides to JPG, of course). Is it possible to control when the pictures are shown and how fast is the loading of the pictures?
- Marc

[Nuke666]

to the person who asked if tou can still customize the main menu, i think the answer is yes, i don't have an ipod photo but i don't think they would remove that simple and great feature.

[nagromme]

Originally posted by Lestat
I am very interested to know if I could use an iPod Photo to show a PowerPoint presentation (after converting all the slides to JPG, of course).

Yes--put your slides wherever you synch photos from, and you can output a Keynote/PowerPoint/etc. presentation right to TV, with optional music of your choosing. You have the choice of manual advance, or advance every 2, 3, 5, 10, or 20 seconds. No animations of course, just the slides.

You can choose whether to have wipe transitions or not (just right-to-left, I've heard), whether to repeat the photos (or slides) when they're done, and whether to shuffle the images or play them in order.

Best of all: the iPod is the ultimate presentation remote: it shows you a special presentation interface right on the iPod screen--different from what the audience sees on TV! The TV shows just the current photo, but the iPod screen shows three thumbnails, so you can see the previous and next images too. Cool!

[Blue_Dawg]

Thank you for the pics!!! It really does look great and I would love to get one. I may have to go down to my local Apple Mini Store and play with one for a while.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by nagromme
Thanks! I have to get me one :) A few Qs:

1. Can you get the Now Playing / album art screens to appear on TV? Or only slideshows?

2. Can you browse photos--instead of just giving a slideshow--on TV? (In other words... can you use the 5x5 thumbnail view on TV, or in full-screen view can you use the wheel to shuttle quickly through photos on TV?)

3. What are the photo transitions like?

4. If you have multiple iCal calendars in different colors, do you see those multiple colors on the screen? Or the whole month just colored blue without regard for iCal's color?

5. Could you by any chance give us a list of everything that's available under Customize Main Menu?

6. Can you FINALLY tell one-eyed jacks from regular jacks in Solitaire? ;) j/k

1 & 2. Only the photos show up on the TV output. No other TV-out feed is available.

3. The transitions, when turned-on, just wipe in the new picture (from the left to the right) over the current picture. There aren't multiple transition types as best I can tell.

4. I'm not sure about the iCal situation, but I doubt it. [I'm a windows user.]

5. Here is the list

Music
-Playlists
-Artists
-Albums
-Songs
-Audibooks
-Genres
-Composers
Photos
-Photo Import
Extras
-Clock
-Contacts
-Calendar
-Notes
-Voice Memos
-Games
Shuffle Songs
Backlight
Sleep
Reset Main Menu

6. Yes, he's wearing a neon eye patch. [j/k]

--bit

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by iPulse
The screen looks tacky and the backlight or light on it looks weak.
Can you take some pics of it working in the dark? And a picture of it with the apple logo on the screen if possible?

My pictures don't really do the screen justice. The screen is absolutely vibrant, and the backlight couldn't be better. (When I get a chance I'll try to accomodate your picture request.)

--bit

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by jasonland
Hey,

I have a question about the colour screen. On most cellphones with colour screens, the screen is nearly impossible to see without the backlight on. The same applies to the colour iRiver. Once the backlight goes off, the screen goes almost black.

The thing I love about the black and white iPods is that the screen is sharp and easy-to-read even when the backlight is off. I was wondering if the same applies to the colour screened iPods.

Namely, is it feasible to use the iPod with the backlight switched off?

Thanks

It would definitely be a hassle to use the screen w/o the backlight. In a bright room the screen is visible, but I'd say the backlight is a must.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by ipodforsale
do you know if you can get rid of the photo option in the main menu?

i know with the 3G's you choose what you want displayed in the main menu i was wondering if you could do the same with the photoipods

Yes, you can remove the Photo option from them Menu Settings option page.

--bit

[nagromme]

Cool, thanks for the info!

I was hoping for album art on TV just for fun, but it's a gimmick I wouldn't have used all that often.

I was also hoping Settings>EQ could be put in the main menu, but one more click won't kill me.

Any chance of a photo with backlight off, taken in full light?

[Macattack15]

w00t i too got my ipod Photo last week and let me tell you this thing rocks!!!

1) the screen looks super awsome

2) pictures look super awsome

3) everything is awsome!

now the downside

a little thicker and heavier but i think its still thin and light compared to some others!

its a little slow viewing pictures, if you try to view thumbnails and then a full screen pic too quickly it will show a black screen, and sometime i have to hold down the play-pause button 2 or 3 times before it shuts off, but nothing that cant be fixed in a future update!

if u want pics u can visit my mob here ! http://macattack.textamerica.com

w00t have fun ipodding!

[nagromme]

Thanks for the report. I think the "normal"/"beginner" way to turn off an iPod is just to leave it alone... it will shut off if not used. If you want to force it off, you hold the pause button for a time. Are you saying it takes longer a longer press than you expect vs. other iPods?

A question... how fast can you shuffle through photos with the wheel, in full-screen view?

And a more random Q... in Parachute are you killing the parachute people, or shooting down the helicopters, or both?

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by nagromme
A question... how fast can you shuffle through photos with the wheel, in full-screen view?

In both the thumbnail view and in the fullscreen view, the navigation thru pictures is lightning fast. In full screen, you can move thru pictures as fast as you can push the |<< and >>| buttons.

And a more random Q... in Parachute are you killing the parachute people, or shooting down the helicopters, or both?

I say shoot anything that moves. Tip of the day, save ammo and try to get the helicopters before the paratroopers take flight.

--bit

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by Macattack15
...and sometime i have to hold down the play-pause button 2 or 3 times before it shuts off, but nothing that cant be fixed in a future update!


This happens to me all the time, also. This is something that never happened to me on my 4G, actually. It's annoying, but not terribly.

--bit

[Phil]

Or you could just not hold down pause and let the iPod fall asleep on its own. You save absolutely no power putting it to sleep manually.

[EvilDude]

I'm sure you lose a bit of power, just very unnoticeable ;) But I also prefer the thought that knowign your iPod is off, rather than leaving it at times.

[podio]

Now I really want to ditch my 3rd gen 10gb for a photo 40gb,but seeing as im only 14 with no job,it wont happen soon.And the saving begins! I need a bigger one anyway since I only have about 350mb left.

[dwchin]

How about using it outside in the natural sunlight with backlight on? I find my cellphone is terribly hard to read in the sun with its color screen, but some have been saying that iPod's new lcd is supposed to keep visibility from being poor outside. What's your experience with this been like? I wouldn't want to be walking around with something I can't easily read outside, heheh :)

[nagromme]

The "transflective" LCD may be better than a laptop which goes TOTALLY black without a backlight. But that doesn't mean it will be easy to read without one. Reviews seem to agree that without the light, 4G B&W pods are easier to see that the color screens. WITH backlight, the color screens are supposed to be the best ever.

That's OK with me, just so I can see SOMETHING and then let the backlight come on automatically when I touch the controls. The backlight sleeps automatically, and the battery is the biggest ever, so I'll gladly use the backlight.

[bitsculptor]

Originally posted by dwchin
How about using it outside in the natural sunlight with backlight on? I find my cellphone is terribly hard to read in the sun with its color screen, but some have been saying that iPod's new lcd is supposed to keep visibility from being poor outside. What's your experience with this been like? I wouldn't want to be walking around with something I can't easily read outside, heheh :)

In sunlight and without the backlight it's a pain to see. Not impossible, but it'll take more than a casual glance. With the backlight it's superb.

[dwchin]

Thanks nagromme and bitsculptor for both of your replies. It's great to hear it's really visibile outside with the backlight... I have a 3G and I use the backlight almost all the time, so I'm sure I won't have a problem with using it on these improved battery life iPods, too, haha :D

[rebeera]

Wow, it looks incredible! I was sceptical at first because the official photos look like they're computer generated and I didn't think that it would have such a high resolution screen, but it really looks fantastic.

[nagromme]

The official photos ARE computer generated :) The high-res screen views anyway. Some products like the PowerMac G5 have even the hardware computer-generated at Apple.com.

[Travis]

Originally posted by bitsculptor
The most awesome thing about this baby is the new typeface. It allows more of the album/track/etc to fit on screen. On top of that, this thing scrolls the name of the album/track/etc (whatever you're browsing) IN THE MENUS. That was my biggest complaint about the ipod... you had to keep somewhat short playlist names so they'd on screen. Not any longer!

oh no... you have me so excited. mine should be in the mail tomorrow. i feel like a kid on christmas eve.

but i didn't know about this!!! my biggest complaint about my old ipod was that i couldn't read full track names in the menus. i have a lot of remixes and it would take some work finding the right one i was looking for. but no more.. yay! that's worth an extra $100 right there.

[Havo]

Yea the ipod is visible outside in the light. I think it has a TFT screen like sum cell phones. The track anmes do scroll across if they r long. I don't like how its like that when ur playing a song with a long name cuz it kinda uses the battery. I would prefer if it just stayed there. Its worth the investment. The longer bat. life and the color screen make it worth it. The ability to view photos just tops it off. It's not noticebly heavier or thicker than teh 4g 40gb ipod. I didn't see much difference when using it.

[nagromme]

"Transflective" is the term for this type of LCD. Looks like a laptop or cell phone screen--but unlike a laptop, outside light HELPS you see the display instead of hurting. There hasn't been a single bright sunny day since I got mine, though.

I don't think the scrolling uses much battery--probably very little CPU power (and no HD power) compared to the constant math used in simply decrypting/decompressing audio on the fly.

Difference vs. the 4G 40 is about 1.5 mm, hardly anything. I bought the PodSleevz meant for the 4G 40 and Photo, and it fits perfectly. (I like the sleeve a lot so far--screen opening's a little lopsided, but the feel is great and the controls work through the case just fine.)