The Definitive Complaining About the Placement of the Football Thread Thread

[Provboy]

GAME of the SEASON. 3 goals in 5 minutes.... wow. wow. lovin' it

[A5H]

P|ss off lol.
I support Boro!
Ah well t'was obvious we'd loose...

[TommyMagic]

Damn it! That means Arsenal have equalled my teams (Nottm Forest) record of unbeaten games and it looks as if they will beat it now with ease!

You think they can go another season unbeaten? That would be something very special!

[stickuto]

booooooooooooo :(, hate the gunners

[TommyMagic]

Ah its better than Chelski and their millions winning through Money alone!

[Jackus]

I was at the game today and I support arsenal. It was amazing... Bergkamp... Wow! And Reyes :)

[Sypher]

Originally posted by stickuto
booooooooooooo :(, hate the gunners

I concur

[liam]

YEH!!! a footy thread!!! football RULES! i'm a bolton fan through and through, but live in scotland. I must clap when you think about what the gunners have done....its amzing. Hopefully SOMEONE will beat them soon, or it will get silly. Bolton for a top 6 finish! c'mon!

also....who else LOVES soccer AM on sky sports? tim lovejoy is god!

[A5H]

Hahahaha, Carling cup final last season mate! ;)
C'mon Boro !!

Ash

[Doug Gilmour]

I don't really like EPL too much. I prefer Serie A, and go for AS Roma. Anyone else into Serie A?

-Dan

[Jackus]

No sorry. I watch all the Champions League Games I can and every arsenal game. I go to as many as possible :). Y don't you like arsenal... They're amazing to watch...

[Provboy]

i live in asia and the cable company only shows EPL, FA cup and Champs League games, and a little Primera Liga. the only time i see italian teams play is in the champs league.

when bergkamp scored then pires then reyes i was literally rolling on the floor. great stuff

[Jackus]

yea! it was... I can understand if your a Middlesbough fan you may not be too happy with arsenal, but why do the rest of you not like em?

[liam]

i like their style of play.....i like their style, their speed, their skill....i just dont like the way that NO-ONE can beat them! ....

and as for the carling cup final.......SHUT UP!!! ...the first two minutes were PAINFUL for me....but ah well....

bolton wanderers to be the first to beat arsenal! c'mon!

[TommyMagic]

I like Arsenal because I respect them!

But as far as it goes with them now equalling Nottingham Forests record of unbeaten games and the very likelyness of them beating it, i say this:

It is the English League and at least Forest, an English team, set that record with 10 English and 1 Irish player!

That is in no way a racist comment (I DESPISE racisits!) but I do feel that the influx of foreign players is ruining England as a national side!

[Jackus]

I'm glad you respect arsenal. I sorta agree about the too many foreign player, but they have had an enormous impact on the game, like dennis bergkamp, zola, etc etc... I dunno what it would be like without foreign players.

[Provboy]

it would be like french ligue 1 hehe just kidding. won't it also somehow improve the english game because the kids get exposed to international players and different styles of coaching/playing? i have all the arsenal kits from 1997 to the present. hehe. i'm an arsenal armchair fan. gooners rule

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
No sorry. I watch all the Champions League Games I can and every arsenal game. I go to as many as possible :). Y don't you like arsenal... They're amazing to watch...

Well I'm not English so I don't really follow them much. I am Italian and therefore I would naturally be inclined to like Italian Football :) Roma came to Toronto and played Celtic. That was awesome. My father and cousin went, but I still got to watch it on TV.. :)

-Dan

[Provboy]

Doug: you think milan will retain the championship? inter is building up its squad and i haven't heard anything from juve...

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
Doug: you think milan will retain the championship? inter is building up its squad and i haven't heard anything from juve...

I do not like Milano, but they do have a solid team. I think Roma may take it this year though. They have a great lineup with Cassano fresh off of a productive Euro 2004 where pretty much every other Italian in that tournament was a huge disappointment. It will be close one between Milano and Roma I think. As for Juventus I don't think they will be having a very good season. They may have Buffon, but he can only do so much. Del Piero hasn't been consistent since his injury and the team has been hurting a bit since they lost David's and his great tackling abilities.

It should be a great season. Should be fun.

-Dan

[Provboy]

yes i was expecting roma to win it last season but they lost steam towards the end.

anyone here ####ed at mourinho? hehe

[Jackus]

Can we change this into a football thread? I really like it, and we don't have one currently... What do you think?

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Can we change this into a football thread? I really like it, and we don't have one currently... What do you think?

Sounds good to me. All areas of football though not just EPL stuff. International stuff too.

-Dan

[yinyang]

if you guys want i can edit the title to read "The Definitive Worldwide Soccer 2004/2005 Thread"...?

[baggss]

HHhmmm, I can only surmise that this is one of those "foreign" things you Brits like to talk about......

Guess I'll just go back to whittlin on my stick now.....

[Jackus]

Yeah its kinda popular over here! Yinyang something like that would be good - and all areas of football too :)

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by yinyang
if you guys want i can edit the title to read "The Definitive Worldwide Soccer 2004/2005 Thread"...?

Ya something like that would be good, but perhaps call it football instead of soccer?

-Dan

[yinyang]

the 'soccer' was more for the americans and the aussies who think football is something else...!?

football it shall be : )

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by yinyang
the 'soccer' was more for the americans and the aussies who think football is something else...!?

football it shall be : )

Great, thanks Albert.

So back on topic. Perhaps we should talk about Olympic football. Anyone been watching?

-Dan

[Provboy]

wow i love the new topic title. hehe. so arsenal goes 43 games unbeaten. *claps*. fantastic. haven't seen any olympic football games. sorry. wish they would show them here.

the champs league draw is out! liverpool are in a tough group. roma too is in a tough group.

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
wow i love the new topic title. hehe. so arsenal goes 43 games unbeaten. *claps*. fantastic. haven't seen any olympic football games. sorry. wish they would show them here.

the champs league draw is out! liverpool are in a tough group. roma too is in a tough group.

In case you were wondering it is Argentina and Paraguay for the Gold and Italy and Iraq for the Bronze. Damn Argentines...they have a ton of people from their International team while Italy has Pirlo and that's pretty much it...

-Dan

[Provboy]

oh so paraguay beat iraq then. the only olympic game i was able to watch was the korea vs greece game (i think that was the first). did argentina play tevez?

[Provboy]

argentina wins. tevez. and booooooooooo...

ManYOO cheats its way to a draw. poor blackburn

[Provboy]

ROONEY! what do you think?

judas hehe

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
ROONEY! what do you think?

judas hehe

I feel it was a waste of money. He scored 4 goals in 2 games against Sub-par teams. (Croatia, Switzerland) That hardly means he is worth that kind of money. He may turn out to be great and if so that's good for him, but I think its a bit too much of a gamble on him, but than again this is Manchester...I'm surprised Chelsea didn't buy him first though ;)

As far as I am concerned the player of the future is Antonio Cassano of Roma, very talented and skilled. Hopefully he will emerge from the mountain of overtalented, primadonna failures that is team Italia in Germany 2006.

-Dan

[Jackus]

Reyes playing well, I might be going to arsenals firts champions league game, arsenal vs psv eindhoven I think...

[Provboy]

^^ lucky you

i play a lot of CM and winning eleven, and yes, cassano is always a great addition to my team haha

[yinyang]

Originally posted by provboy
ROONEY! what do you think?

judas hehe

judas only to everton...! LOL! i think for him it's a chance to develop with a really good setup, and a tough manager, who'll hopefully coax the best out of him.

funny though, most of the liverpool supporters don't think the same (judas) of owen for going to real.

anyway good luck to rooney - hope he does well, since it'll benefit the national team!

[Provboy]

maybe because owen really wasn't performing well when he left, and they've had a lot of new signings. yes i agree with you that rooney will probably develop in man u, but the pressure might get to him, being in a big club and being focused on by the media all the time. and yeah, smith and rooney together will help the england team

[Jackus]

Yea, in the end couldn't get any tickets to the psv game... :( Rooney... well... he played a few games for england against, well, lets admit it, not very good opponents, and scored a few times. I believe that it is much harder in the premiership, and, although I think he did need to leave everton to mak the most of his talent, it will not be easy for him to play like he did for england, and score as many goals. Premiership sides are more well moulded as a team, and play better together... Look at Henrys performance in the Euros, not that stunning. Then when you compare that with how he plays for arsenal, there is a BIG difference...

Anyway, I guess no one actually will understand what I am trying to get across here, but hey ho, worth a try ;)

[Provboy]

heheh some bad refereeing at the fulham arsenal game. but a win is a win i got scared though when henry was writhing in pain. too bad you weren't able to get tickets man. hope you do get some for the other cleague games, and hopefully the final :)

doug: great win by roma, and juve too, was surprised with both milano's games though.

[Provboy]

okay so the champions league begins in a few minutes. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im so excited! arsenal all the way!

[liam]

come on barca! beat celtic! larsson to score 3 past his old club!

[Jackus]

c'moooonnn u gooners! My moneys on Reyes scoring, ey, Provboy! He's playing bloody awesomly at the moment... :p Jose antoniooooo...

[Provboy]

yup reyes is fantastic 5 goals in 5 games, plus the community shield one. haha.

[Jackus]

I'm loving Reyes! Him, henry, begkamp, viera, pires... psv who!?

[Provboy]

dammit i thought it was a penalty. thank god it wasn't

[Jackus]

When? We were lucky, although Pires' goal should've stood... *phew*

[Provboy]

but psv was lucky also, with some of arsenal's attempts only inches wide of the goal/goal strike. when toure brought down the guy in the first half, i thought it was going to be a peno. well, a win is win. whew.

[Doug Gilmour]

Ah great Serie A has just begun, interesting to see Juventus sign Ibrahimovic after he scored for Sweden on Italy... Still angers me that Kim was released by Perugia for scoring on Italy in the World Cup....

-Dan

[Provboy]

hey dan, did you see the now infamous roma kiev game? damn what a throw. lucky shot. hehe. poor ref. what punishment would you give them? :)

[Jackus]

I'd kick them out, and Dan, I really like Ibrohamovch (sp def wrong :p) Hes well cool...

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
hey dan, did you see the now infamous roma kiev game? damn what a throw. lucky shot. hehe. poor ref. what punishment would you give them? :)

Hmm I never watched it, was it just on in the least couple games because I haven't been watching too much Champ's League because of school. I did hear about Frisk getting struck by a razor of some sort from the crowd after he sent of one of Roma's players. Is this true? And is there anything else I am missing out on regarding the incident?

-Dan

[liam]

EVERYONE - PREPARE FOR THE GAME OF THE YEAR...

Bolton ('The MIGHTY') Wanderers Vs. Arsenal ('Can't stop winning')

The gunners run is over! Bolton to win for sure! C'mon Okocha! Show those girls in red how to play the game!

what dya have to say about that arsenalmad10? lol :P

[Jackus]

Ermmm... I'll comment afetr weve beaten you... :p... I won't be TOO cocky after the Champions League game, but campbells back... so... yeah, your gonna lose.

[liam]

hehe....i agree the odds are NOT in my favour.....and the fact is...as much as i hate to say it....arsenal are unbeleivably good. I just have a feeling, for some reason, we will nick a scrappy result. Lets hope so anyways, for the good of the premiership.

[Cue: Arsenal 7 Bolton 0]

[Provboy]

looks like you got a good enough result. heheh.

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
looks like you got a good enough result. heheh.

Interesting so they tied 2-2? When was the last time Arsenal lost a game and I don't mean in the EPL I am thinking that it probably happened in last years Champion's League? Is this correct?

-Dan

[Provboy]

i think the last time they lost was in the FA cup vs Manutd.

a lighter was thrown at the ref after he sent off mexes. he bled. after almost a 45 minute halftime, the ref abandoned the game. score was kiev 1 - 0 roma at the half.

uefa are investigating and the punishment could be:
no more roma games in rome and a 3-0 win for kiev
worst case is they get booted out of the champions league

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy

worst case is they get booted out of the champions league

That sounds a bit extreme. Never heard of anything that drastic since Yugoslavia got chased out of Euro '92 and that was because of UN sanctions...Roma fans are a nice lot aren't they? Didn't they spend a few games last season playing in Lazio's stadium after a similar accident concurred?

[Provboy]

i think there was a riot between the lazio and roma fans. nasty bunch. they even said that the lighter came from the VIP section. haha.no wonder there were no arrests after the game was abandoned

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
i think there was a riot between the lazio and roma fans. nasty bunch. they even said that the lighter came from the VIP section. haha.no wonder there were no arrests after the game was abandoned

Yes, I wouldn't question that as they are basically beside each other in geographic terms in Italy...

Roma fanatics are a bunch of nuts at times. But than again in Canada there are the Toronto Maple Leaf fanatics as well... Team Canada just won the World Cup of Hockey in Toronto last Tuesday and the fans were jumping on taxis and flipping them over, waling hockey pucks at cops. Some lady tried to attack a cop and his partner got his baton and knocked her out.... Craziness!

-Dan

[Provboy]

LOL. were you out there celebrating as well? hahaha

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by provboy
LOL. were you out there celebrating as well? hahaha

Well... I could have I could've just taken the subway down there, but I was over at someone else's house and couldn't. Also if the Leafs ever won the cup (they haven't in 37 years) the whole city would just close down. There would be weeklong parties, etc. There was even a article in a local newpaper that said: "Cops Dread Leafs Winning Cup" :D :D

-Dan

[Jackus]

Our last loss was in the Champs league against Chelsea. Kick Roma out. Just my 2 pences worth... :p

[yinyang]

got to get up at 4am to go watch lfc vs mufc, especially since there's no epl on aussie terrestial tv anymore :(

and i refuse to get cable just to watch epl..! so it's off to the casino, where i watched euro 2004 LOL!!

looking forward to watching the 'pool beating man ure even though no more danny murphy!! ;)

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Our last loss was in the Champs league against Chelsea. Kick Roma out. Just my 2 pences worth... :p

Well since it was not actually Roma the team that did anything, but the fans that's a bit harsh. I would think a fair solution would be to make no more Roma home games in the Champs league this year.

Yinyang, you're quite a penny pincher :D

-Dan

[Provboy]

hey yinyang! yeah. i'm in the philippines so i have to watch the games the same time as you do! haha. i do hope pool beat manure (i root for anyone who's up against manyoo :) )

last time i was in australia was almost 8 years ago. (wow long time) but i wasn't able to go to brisbane. only sydney and canberra :) good luck to 'pool

[Provboy]

hmmm. real madrid's camacho quits. poor guy.

[Jackus]

I have to go to the pub with my dad to watch the games which are on sky... :) We're all cheap! :D

[thenerd]

YES!!! The bengals won!!! on prime time tv. That makes us cincinnati fans feel pretty good! (or atleast me)

[Provboy]

ok i guess american football is also football.

man liverpool lost. can't believe kewell he was so lazy. all his passes were weak and he never looked enthusiastic.

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by zsmith66
YES!!! The bengals won!!! on prime time tv. That makes us cincinnati fans feel pretty good! (or atleast me)

Agh! Please no Yank Football! ;)

Any of ou guys want to join in on a Champ's League Footie Pool from www.uefa.com? It is free and although we are a bit late we would still be on even grounds. We should make a group called iPodloungers.

-Dan

[hengky]

1st win at St. Mary's after the long 32 years of waiting....sweet...

Go on NU!

[Jackus]

I'll join :p If you'll have me on...

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
I'll join :p If you'll have me on...

Sure I'll go set up a pool later on than. Anyone can join if they wish.

-Dan

[Jackus]

I don't see how you join...? Man U Rooney hattrick... Arsenal palying tonight... Anyone any thoughts?

[Provboy]

i think wayne was lucky - more pressure on him for performing really well on his debut. hehe. and arsenal tonight, of course they'll win.

[Provboy]

bleh. another draw. at least it wasn't a loss. BRING BACK FABREGAS!

[Jackus]

Yeah. We beat Charlton 4-0 and Henry scored an amazingly goal, that was sweet, backheel into the corner, without looking where the goal was... England beat Wales 2-0 and Ireland drew with France. Henry NEVER performs for France... Wierd...

EDIT: My 400th post ;) w00T!

[Kristiano]

Did anyone see Beckham's goal? Absolutely sensational, 35 yards out and he just swerves it past Jones...if he played week in week out like that for Real (as he has been recently), Real wouldn't be in that position now.

Notice that despite the amount of attacking talent Real possess in Raul, Ronaldo, Morientes, Zidane, Figo, Owen, etc, Becks has scored almost half of Real's goals in the Primera Liga.

[Provboy]

i think it's because the madrid stars are getting old. can't wait for arsenal vs manyoo in 2 weeks. let's all hope that arsenal wins again (a la community shield).

and what happened to rooney???? im not complaining. hehe

[Jackus]

Hmmmm... he did hit the post from a mile out... For one glorious moment though, In the england game, I thought he was injured, perfectly in time for the Man Yoo game... No such luck. It was a screamer from Beckham, but then, being the plonker he is, he goes and gets himself a yellow card, and misses the next England game... What a prat.

[Provboy]

becks is stupid. "i wanted to get booked" - stupid

[Jackus]

Yeah, like he has enough brain cells to think that... He must be thinking... IN ADVANCE!

[Kristiano]

But seriously though, it is much better to get himself suspended whilst nursing a hairline rib injury than suspended when he's fit.

Becks is set to miss England's friendly versus Spain at the Bernabeu too due to that injury...

I can't wait to see the 3 Rs-Ruud, Rooney and Ronaldo terrorize Campbell & co. soon.

[Provboy]

ashley cole will eat fake ronaldo alive.
rooney is a flop
ruud is a horse

[Provboy]

and alan smith has been the consistent one

[Jackus]

Originally posted by provboy
ashley cole will eat fake ronaldo alive.
rooney is a flop
ruud is a horse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Too True... Just swap the ruud and rooney round, so rooneys a horse, then thats more like it... :)

[Provboy]

WHAT the hell is wrong with Lehmann. Arsenal should try playing Almunia once in a while, like in their next champs league game

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Too True... Just swap the ruud and rooney round, so rooneys a horse, then thats more like it... :)

Hmm...let's see. Have you ever won the Treble? :p Have you ever touched the European Cup come to think of it? :p

On a serious note though, Arsenal have been playing well for the last two seasons. United have admittedly been second or third to them. But we're in our rebuilding process, and we've got the best manager in the world to guide us unlike Liverpool.

Imagine what it's like when Ronaldo, Rooney, et el are in their roaring 20s and the likes of Campbell, Vieria and Robert "Cheating" Pires are in their 30s? :p

[Provboy]

arsenal also have reyes, van persie, and CESC.

and stop saying things like treble or euro cup comeon it took fergie redface 9 years to get those things. arsenal might be just starting. they might win it, they might not, but it's too early to say those things. maybe when wenger retires and they still haven't won a euro title then that would be the right time to say "oh you never won the treble etcetc" :) am i right?

[Piarco75]

Benitez is new - and there's no way you can't say he's a bad manager. Just look at his track record. Its like saying Ferguson is naff (tempting :D ) because Man U have been underperforming this season. And as for the best manager... it is a certain Arsene "Comical" Wenger. I have the upmost respect for his style of management and the Arsenal team. Never was into watching other teams besides Liverpool play, but for sheer entertainment they are even better than the Man U team in the early/mid nineties. IMO of course :D

He's introducing a newer style of play and sculpting the team his way, which will take time. Which I am prepared to give him, although this new zonal marking is killing us at the moment. Stopping us doing the one thing we were good at doing (man marking) in the last couple of years is producing problems.... highlighted by the gaping holes created on Saturday to allow Fulham to score. Should never have happened, but its down to the confusion the new system has brought.

Whilst I'm all for giving the manager a go, I have a short fuse when it comes to players. Traore and Diao HAVE TO GO. Every time Traore got the ball on Saturday I was wincing because I knew he'd either put in a bad pass or loose posession entirely. Or fall over. And Diao has achieved nothing but obscurity every match. Thank god for Alonso, he should start every game. Can't wait until Gerard is back as our midfield is shaping up nicely.

All we need now is some consistent strikers. Hopefully Cisse will come good soon (like the faithful believe) but I'm not sure. Bring on January, and the possibility of Morientes coming over....

[Jackus]

Originally posted by provboy
arsenal also have reyes, van persie, and CESC.

and stop saying things like treble or euro cup comeon it took fergie redface 9 years to get those things. arsenal might be just starting. they might win it, they might not, but it's too early to say those things. maybe when wenger retires and they still haven't won a euro title then that would be the right time to say "oh you never won the treble etcetc" :) am i right?

Your right. And, sorry Christiano... or whatever you name is, I forget :) How old is Dennis Bergkamp? And hes still making the arsenal first team and playing awesomely... :rolleyes:

[Provboy]

hey jack, do you play we/pes?

[Jackus]

Yeah. I just got PES4. Its pretty nice. In fact, its awesome... :) Do you play them?

[NOSpsycho]

wait is this soccer-football?

or US football (the one with the oval, brown ball that has white stiches)

it seems like soccer, so ill say the palmeiras will win cuz they seem good and i dunt kno any other soccer team :/

for US football... pro: the Dolphins will surely be the last place team... college: the CANES will win their 6th national championship, as long as they dunt lose any games

GO HURRICANES!

[Jackus]

ermmmmm... soccer football... or, football - over here...

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Your right. And, sorry Christiano... or whatever you name is, I forget :) How old is Dennis Bergkamp? And hes still making the arsenal first team and playing awesomely... :rolleyes:

It's Kristiano :) United had this player, but in '96 or '97, he was discarded by Tottenham, came to United and in his thirties and last season at Man United, scored 19 goals that season to win us the Premier League and the Golden Boot. Has Dennis "I'm scared of flying" Bergkamp even won the boot before? If he's not even that of Teddy Sheringham, you want him to go against Keano today?

To Cesc, Robert "crashed the barrier and run" Van Persie and Reyes, we have Miller, Kleberson and C. Ronaldo. Can't wait to see the game today. Keane, Ruud and co. v. Vieria, Henry and co. should be VERY entertaining.

[Provboy]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Yeah. I just got PES4. Its pretty nice. In fact, its awesome... :) Do you play them?

yep been playing em since winning eleven 97. :)

i've been playing WE8 since mid-august and it is awesome. but there's lag when a corner is taken so that bothers me a bit.

[iChris4]

Why dont you guys support real soccer and follow the bundesliga. Bayern Munchen immer nummer eins!

[Provboy]

i would if my cable provider carried it.

[Jackus]

Originally posted by provboy
yep been playing em since winning eleven 97. :)

i've been playing WE8 since mid-august and it is awesome. but there's lag when a corner is taken so that bothers me a bit.

The corner lag IS dodgy! its really wierd...

Kristiano, I too look forward to the game, but do you honestly think that Man Yoo can win the league if they lose today? I know its technically possible, but, 13points behind us... I'd say you'd be out of it.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10


Kristiano, I too look forward to the game, but do you honestly think that Man Yoo can win the league if they lose today? I know its technically possible, but, 13points behind us... I'd say you'd be out of it.

I think it's going to be very hard...I'll be honest, Arsenal are a very good team and Arsene Wenger is a technically brilliant manager, but the fact is the United have overcome greater deficits before (remember that season, Newcastle were 13 points clear with only a few games left to play).

Fergie is a great manager....And even if we don't win it this year, we definitely won't end up trophyless. Europe looks highly promising.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10


Kristiano, I too look forward to the game, but do you honestly think that Man Yoo can win the league if they lose today? I know its technically possible, but, 13points behind us... I'd say you'd be out of it.

I think it's going to be very hard...I'll be honest, Arsenal are a very good team and Arsene Wenger is a technically brilliant manager, but the fact is the United have overcome greater deficits before (remember that season, Newcastle were 13 points clear with only a few games left to play).

Fergie is a great manager....And even if we don't win it this year, we definitely won't end up trophyless. Europe looks highly promising.

[yinyang]

Originally posted by Piarco75

Whilst I'm all for giving the manager a go, I have a short fuse when it comes to players. Traore and Diao HAVE TO GO. Every time Traore got the ball on Saturday I was wincing because I knew he'd either put in a bad pass or loose posession entirely. Or fall over. And Diao has achieved nothing but obscurity every match. Thank god for Alonso, he should start every game. Can't wait until Gerard is back as our midfield is shaping up nicely.

All we need now is some consistent strikers. Hopefully Cisse will come good soon (like the faithful believe) but I'm not sure. Bring on January, and the possibility of Morientes coming over....

the rafa knows what players are capable of and if he so chooses traore and diao, then he obviosuly feels that their defensive qualities are required, but i wonder sometimes...!?

as for morientes in january - in some ways that would be great as long as he played him, cisse and baros up front, but i think we have way too many forwards/attacking midfielders - we need to cover the two central defender positions (i think sami is no longer the force he used to be, and jamie is a great lfc sevant, but he's not exactly quick is he...!). imo every other position is covered, or rafa can change the formation to suit, so do we really need morientes?

looking forward to arsenal at anfield end nov, as hopefully the team will have started to shape up, and if the gooners are still unbeaten then, i reckon we have a good chance to end that run (as impressive as it is...!)

[Jackus]

Sorry... BUT... what was the score last arsenal vs liverpool game? Yeah, the one at highbury... Yeah, the one where Henry scored a hatrick. Yeah - the one where he ran past all the liverpool defenders, leaving them on the ground, having been dummied... Yeah - thats the game :p

But seriously, I think Liverpool are going to be much more of a threat under Raphael Benitez... He's a good manager... Also, I hate to say it, but I like Jose Mourinho. He's really good, and pretty cool. In an interview about "stupid-mutu-who-took-crack-and-tested-positive" the press were meant to be asking him about the game ahead, but insteda the intrview was all about Mutu, and he siad something like: "Ask me the team for tommorows game. Go on, ask me the team for tommorows game." And then the reporter goes "Go on then, whats the team for tommorows game?" and he says (in a really sarcacstic criticising way) "It's too late." And walks off. That probably sounds NOT funny at all, but if you know the interview I mena, you'd know what I mean. So thats cool. Anyway, I'm going down to the pub with my dad to watch Man Yoo vs. Arsenal... We're cheap :p.... COME ON YOU GOONERS! WE ARE UNBEATABLE! :D

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
So thats cool. Anyway, I'm going down to the pub with my dad to watch Man Yoo vs. Arsenal... We're cheap :p.... COME ON YOU GOONERS! WE ARE UNBEATABLE! :D

Cockiness kills football teams :p I'm going to stick my head on the block and predict a big romp for United, simply because of
(a) Blind loyalty
and
(b) United play their best when their backs are against the war.

[Jackus]

::sobs:: I know.... I fear defeat! Seriosuly - I'ce forgotten what it feels like... :) I think it will either be a draw, or united will win 2-1 or something.... I say that as a typical, loyal, arsenal pesimist.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
::sobs:: I know.... I fear defeat! Seriosuly - I'ce forgotten what it feels like... :) I think it will either be a draw, or united will win 2-1 or something.... I say that as a typical, loyal, arsenal pesimist.
Lolx...Seriously though, its a great atmosphere at OT, with United just having the slightest of edges now (I write this at HT)(we've had mores shots on goal I think). I still can't believe Keano ain't in the squad. Well...we'll see what Rooney, Ronaldo and Ruud can do...

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
::sobs:: I know.... I fear defeat! Seriosuly - I'ce forgotten what it feels like... :) I think it will either be a draw, or united will win 2-1 or something.... I say that as a typical, loyal, arsenal pesimist.
Lolx...Seriously though, its a great atmosphere at OT, with United just having the slightest of edges now (I write this at HT)(we've had mores shots on goal I think). I still can't believe Keano ain't in the squad. Well...we'll see what Rooney, Ronaldo and Ruud can do...

[Kristiano]

The time now is 1:11am here where I am. Tomorrow is a school day but this is what I stay up for...

Ruud's penalty...sensational...You should have seen his face, that's a year of hurt exorcised...And Rooney...the cheek of that goal... I have honestly no idea what to say, but Arsenal's run ends at 49...

Still, Arsenal have nothing to be ashamed about. There is everything left to fight for...But it's bliss for all United fans now.

[Jackus]

####

Thanks for being franks though Krist. Speaking of Christiano, Ronaldo is a diving wanker. And - lets be fair - was it a penalty? Should Rio have been on the field? Should Nistlerooy be on the pitch, even, after that stamp on Cole? No.

Its always comes down to the ref.

[Provboy]

STUPID REFEREE! rooney wouldn't have had that chance if the ref didn't call the penalty in the first place.

a draw would have been fair. man utd have always been a dirty team

ps: very disgraceful stamp by horseface. those kinds of tackles can end careers.

penalty: NO
rio: at least a yellow card
ruud: horse

congrats anyway :)

[Jackus]

Me and provboy will run into hiding, and never talk to anyone again, until arsenal have done a 50 game unbeaten run... :) Not like anyone else is gonna beat out record tho... :p

[Provboy]

49 is a whole damn lot. at least the pressure's off arsenal. maybe they should try almunia on goal this time.

*thinks of a place to hide*

heard that in the last 8 games of that riley referee in old trafford he gave away 8 penalties :( he should be fired. was he the one who gave two bookings without dismissing a player?

[Jackus]

He's a bloody nightmare. I agree, the pressures off, thats a good thing. I don't want to read the papers tommorow, or talk to anyone about football in person for the next 2 weeks though... ;) Unless Man Yoo lose by something big, and Mr. Riley is fired...

[Provboy]

ok so rooney and ferdinand now admit that the penalty was dubious. robbery, no doubt.

[Jackus]

papers this morning say rooney was looking for the penalty only, and riley obliged, because its man yoo... And nistlerooy should've been sent off... Oh - and Ferguson got pea soup thrown at him :)

[Kristiano]

Cole did pull Ronnie down, it should have been another penalty...Admittedly, Rio should have been sent off, but Ruud? No...Vieria stamped on Ronnie late in the game, so all's square I suppose.

United played a blinder yesterday, although admittedly Arsenal were a pale shade of what they are supposed to be. Can't wait for Portsmouth next weekend, it's gonna be a helluva game.

[Jackus]

Originally posted by Kristiano
Cole did pull Ronnie down, it should have been another penalty...Admittedly, Rio should have been sent off, but Ruud? No...Vieria stamped on Ronnie late in the game, so all's square I suppose.

United played a blinder yesterday, although admittedly Arsenal were a pale shade of what they are supposed to be. Can't wait for Portsmouth next weekend, it's gonna be a helluva game.

Right. So you say Rio should have been sent off, right? I think, that would only happen if the ref was in a neutral place, ie. not Old Trafford :) That was the dubious, was it a red card or not one. The Ruud one was obvious. Evryone who saw the TV replay says, the ref didn't see it, but quite clearly, Van Nistlerooy lifted up his foot, and stamped on cole. There WAS intent, and it WAS malicious. That was the definate red. Ah well, in these matches it always comes down to the ref. Shame we had a s**t one...

[Provboy]

i still feel pretty bad that arsenal lost. they weren't at their best form, but they weren't outplayed either. well the run had to end, 49 is still quite an achievment.

let's just all enjoy the rest of the season :) man u and arsenal fans alike :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
i still feel pretty bad that arsenal lost. they weren't at their best form, but they weren't outplayed either. well the run had to end, 49 is still quite an achievment.

let's just all enjoy the rest of the season :) man u and arsenal fans alike :)

49 is pretty good...only United could beat that :p I can't wait to see Jose Mourinho get screwed...Chelski haven't been playing good football this season (apart from that recent 4-0 win) and with that Mutu scandal and all, I'd say they're more in risk of losing it than Man United.

Arsenalmad, I think yesterday's ref was a good one. I mean, if you look at it, he gave Man United some decisions (it was the Theatre of Dreams after all), but he didn't exactly rip Arsenal off that bad.

The reason Man United won yesterday was because they raised their game to a level I haven't seen in a long time (the last time they did that, I think was when we beat Madrid 4-3 in Europe early last year). There's all to play for with more than 25 matches left.

[Jackus]

We could have had a better ref, lats face it. He didn't give the blatent penalty to you, he gave you a REALLY dodgy one, and we had two VERY good shouts for a sending off... Ah well, like provboy says, whats done is done (did you ever say that, provboy... :p ???!!!)

[Provboy]

yea let's just say that i did :)

[Jackus]

;) It fits... :p

[Provboy]

that was an exciting finish! arsenal should've won, and that last foul shouldn't have been called. advantage to henry. dumb refs.

it's great that man utd lost.

and arsenal is still on top of the table.

oh, and arsenal should try to field another keeper

[Jackus]

man u lost! Cool. I was really down about arsenal drawing... then u sed man u lost, and my day brightened up... Who'd they lose to?

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
man u lost! Cool. I was really down about arsenal drawing... then u sed man u lost, and my day brightened up... Who'd they lose to?

What can I say? It was honestly the most terrible showing I've seen in a long while...Rio was to be frank, pretty awful in that game, and Smith and Rooney were neutralised so effectively...

Fullmarks to Portsmouth though, they played pretty well despite us dominating the first 'alf.

[Provboy]

yup, they lost to pompey, and rooney got a yellow card.

[Jackus]

"Nistlerooy banned, so he can't play this game" I would've prefered the sending off at the game... Nice goal by Van Persie.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
"Nistlerooy banned, so he can't play this game" I would've prefered the sending off at the game... Nice goal by Van Persie.

Aye...90th minute wasn't it? I really can't believe we lost to P'mouth. We were like raiding their goal in the first 20 minutes of their first half and Scholesy had 3 chances he would have scored from any day...Ronnie headed over the bar too...

Bad day at the office for Fergie, Wenger and Bruce apprarently.

[Jackus]

yeah :) 90'th minute it was. Then the last touch of the game was him again almost scoring with a header, when the ref should have played advantage on Henry... :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
yeah :) 90'th minute it was. Then the last touch of the game was him again almost scoring with a header, when the ref should have played advantage on Henry... :)

Dang that ref. Same old Arsenal, always cheating. Lolx...joking...

I'm kind of amazed that Arsenal went 49 games unbeaten, that's a really good record...I thought United could go on something like that too (we haven't been beaten since the opening day)...Until Portsmouth that is...

[Jackus]

So how many games was that run...? 8... maybe 9...? :)

[Jackus]

I havn't mentioned Cisse. (sp?) Thats really harsh, he broke his tibia and fibia, and you literally on tv saw his shin away go all floppy and snap. It was horrible. He won't play again this season, Liverpool are saying - thats a massive loss for the 'pool. Any thought, yinyang? :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
So how many games was that run...? 8... maybe 9...? :)

9 if you just count the English League. I think it's 12 if you count the Carling Cup and the Champions League...Not much I know, but I think we got around 4-5 draws in that process, which is definitely not United calibre. We should have beaten Birmingham, Portsmouth, etc.

But honestly, arsenalmad, don't you think Arsenal can't be considered as a truly great team until they win in the continent, and get a treble?

If you look at the great 4, Sir Matt, Sir Alex, Stein and Clough, all of them have domestic and continental success and I think until Arsene Wenger gets that, Arsenal simply can't be considered an incredible team regardless of how many 49-match unbeaten runs they go on :p

[Provboy]

Arsenal are great because they went thru a whole season unbeaten. It's a different kind of "great" when a team wins a treble. So, yes, Arsenal are great, but not great enough in the continent - yet. We can't jump to conclusions until Arsene Wenger retires.

And that Cisse injury was NASTY. I saw something similar happen to Larsson years ago and, ouch, they never fail to make me cringe.

And... Happy Halloween guys!!!!!!!!!!!! Boo

[Provboy]

oh my what is wrong with the gunners. cygan and lehmann maybe

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
oh my what is wrong with the gunners. cygan and lehmann maybe

Maybe it's Henry, Vieria and Pires :p j/k 1-1 with CP...well things happen...

Man City today for us...I wonder how we're gonna manage without Big Ruud, 35 in 36 now...His European track record is WAAAY better than Thierry's :p Smithy and Fatboy ought to do the job though.

[Jackus]

lol... they didn't last time... ;) Thank god there arn't any chelski supporters here at the Lounge... :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
lol... they didn't last time... ;) Thank god there arn't any chelski supporters here at the Lounge... :)

Cheers mate...Admittedly Rooney and Smith are class, just as Henry are...

I don't know how I can live with Chelski supporters...That would be ermerm...glory-hunters eh?

[Jackus]

Yeah... its just really sucks... Roman whats his face walking in and now they're really rich... Do it the proper way: a la arsenal and Man U...

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Yeah... its just really sucks... Roman whats his face walking in and now they're really rich... Do it the proper way: a la arsenal and Man U...

Finally you realise...I can't really get Roman Abramovich...It's exactly like the partnership between Real and the Madrid government.

It's not right...football shouldn't be like that. A real club can have money, but a poseur club that wouldn't even be in the top 5 without money simply doesn't deserve to be there.

Imagine Real without Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Beckham, Owen, Salgado and the likes and Chelski without Drogba, Kezman, Cech, Mendes, Bridge, Johnson, Makelele...It's simply not right and not in the best interests of football.

[Jackus]

I agree. Also, would chelsea have sacked Ranieri if it wasn't for the money? Would Maurinho have come? No. Chelsea wouldn't be where they are today. I have a friend who "supports" Real Madrid... JJJJJesus christ... :rolleyes:

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
I agree. Also, would chelsea have sacked Ranieri if it wasn't for the money? Would Maurinho have come? No. Chelsea wouldn't be where they are today. I have a friend who "supports" Real Madrid... JJJJJesus christ... :rolleyes:

Mourinho you mean. I have no idea why they sacked Claudio, he was doing a good job, second in the league and in the semis of the European Cup.

We drew Man City today, goal-less too :( With Smithy sent off...A few more games like this, and I really think its over. I'm rarely this pessimistic with Man United, but like Ferguson said, we have to keep winning.

Ruud's back next week though...a Fatboy-Ruud partnership should do something. Who are Ars*nal playing next?

[Jackus]

we've got everton. damn! They're not that easy... then again, we mucked up against the "easy" teams, so maybe we will break the bad run against everton.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
we've got everton. damn! They're not that easy... then again, we mucked up against the "easy" teams, so maybe we will break the bad run against everton.

Everton have been floundering since we took Fatboy from them...only now they're higher in the league then we are :(

Wenger's getting charged by the FA for calling Big Ruud a cheat...ha! =p

[raine]

Totally not in the mood to read 140+ posts. Um, yes, my BYU Cougars are whipping tail right now. AWESOME yes it is. They will challenge Utah.

/trying to bring it back on topic one post at at time

[Jackus]

what!!?? It is on topic... :rolleyes:

Yeah... Its just a fine for Arsene... Thats ok :) I'm sure hes got enough to pay it...

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
what!!?? It is on topic... :rolleyes:

Yeah... Its just a fine for Arsene... Thats ok :) I'm sure hes got enough to pay it...

He should be banned off the bench 8 months for that! :p

[Provboy]

Originally posted by raine
Totally not in the mood to read 140+ posts. Um, yes, my BYU Cougars are whipping tail right now. AWESOME yes it is. They will challenge Utah.

/trying to bring it back on topic one post at at time

It is on topic. where does it say "the definitive Yank football??"

:rolleyes:

[Provboy]

Arsenal... hmm, i always get nervous during opposition corners and set pieces nowadays. hahaha. makes for exciting games though. will arsene use the 2nd team against everton in the carling cup?

[Jackus]

Yes. Definatly. Van persie et al... So thats not our next premiership game Kristiano... our next prem game is Tottenham away :/ Uh oh...

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Yes. Definatly. Van persie et al... So thats not our next premiership game Kristiano... our next prem game is Tottenham away :/ Uh oh...

Oooh Tottenham...well Jol is a technically competant manager (i would go as far to say as good as Wenger and Ferige), so it's going to be interesting. They would definitely win if Sheringham were there though.


Teddy was among the top 10 in the world in the past IMO. It's sad that he's now playing in the Coca Cola championship.

[Provboy]

wow the arsenal kids beat everton 3-1. pretty good

[Kristiano]

Holy crap 5-4! Arsenal's defence is crap but I've got to admit, the attack is awesome! Of course, the game wasn't nearly as good or exciting as United's amazing 5-3 comeback 3 years ago :p

Newcastle tonight, I wonder how it'll go. BTW, anyone here plays FM?

[Jackus]

Heh. Cygan.... ::::shakes fist:::: 5 goals is good tho... FM??? I play Pro Evo... and Im AWESOME! I need online on that game... :p Who are man yoo playing today?

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Heh. Cygan.... ::::shakes fist:::: 5 goals is good tho... FM??? I play Pro Evo... and Im AWESOME! I need online on that game... :p Who are man yoo playing today?

Football Manager...you know, what Championship Manager evolved to? It's so cool, I'm like second in my league to Chelski now and murdering the Ar$eholes :p j/k

We played Newcastle...3-1 to Man United. Roo got two and Ruud got a pen. Haha.

[Provboy]

i didn't see the pen. was it really a pen or was it suspect?

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
i didn't see the pen. was it really a pen or was it suspect?

I only saw the highlights, fell asleep as it started at midnight here :(

It was 50-50 I suppose. Around the country, some refs would give it and some refs wouldn't but there definitely was contact.

[Kristiano]

Yo guys.

2-0 to Man United on Fergie's 999th game...Such a sweet volley by Scholes and brilliant mazy run by Giggsy. It's Lyon next for us...

I'm watching Real against Barca later at the Nou Camp. It's gonna be really cool, with 22 really good players in front of almost a hundred thousand fans.

I think Real vs. Barca is the biggest game in Europe, even though as everyone knows, Arsenal vs. Man United are huge.

[Kristiano]

Yo guys.

2-0 to Man United on Fergie's 999th game...Such a sweet volley by Scholes and brilliant mazy run by Giggsy. It's Lyon next for us...

I'm watching Real against Barca later at the Nou Camp. It's gonna be really cool, with 22 really good players in front of almost a hundred thousand fans.

I think Real vs. Barca is the biggest game in Europe, even though as everyone knows, Arsenal vs. Man United are huge.

[Provboy]

great goal by the man u vets. wow you're in barcelona? lucky you. tell as about it :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
great goal by the man u vets. wow you're in barcelona? lucky you. tell as about it :)
I wish I were m8. :p

[Provboy]

oh, when you said you were going to watch them at the nou camp i thought you were really going to be there. hahaha. 3 - 0 to Barca. great stuff. Arsenal and Chelsea drop points. it must be a good day for you eh? :) hehe

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
oh, when you said you were going to watch them at the nou camp i thought you were really going to be there. hahaha. 3 - 0 to Barca. great stuff. Arsenal and Chelsea drop points. it must be a good day for you eh? :) hehe


I hoped so! It was a bittersweet day I guess. I like Real and I always like to see Old Trafford alumnus such as Becks do well and I was a bit disappointed by the 3-0 defeat.

But on all other fronts, in the Premiership, I think there's all to play for and hopefully by New Year, United will be on the top of the table if not breathing on the necks of the Gunners and Chelski.

[andrew]

I came in thinking this was an American football thread. I have to get used to the fact that this site is international. I like soccer, oops, I meanfootball but I pay more attention to national teams than to local clubs. I know nothing about English clubs except that in my Playstation game FIFA 2001 Arsenal and Manchester United are the best teams in the game. Do you guys talk about anything international in this thread?

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by andrew
I came in thinking this was an American football thread. I have to get used to the fact that this site is international. I like soccer, oops, I meanfootball but I pay more attention to national teams than to local clubs. I know nothing about English clubs except that in my Playstation game FIFA 2001 Arsenal and Manchester United are the best teams in the game. Do you guys talk about anything international in this thread?

It's mainly EPL talk here since most of the Europeans that most here are from the UK. Occasionally when I am around Serie A (Italian top league) will be talked about. Its mainly club teams overall though.. When the 2006 World Cup qualifiers become more serious it will probably be talked about some more, but really until World Cup 2006 in Germany this thread will be all club football :)

-Dan

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by raine
Totally not in the mood to read 140+ posts. Um, yes, my BYU Cougars are whipping tail right now. AWESOME yes it is. They will challenge Utah.

/trying to bring it back on topic one post at at time

Err... Raine this is European football, not Yankie football :D Pay attention next time.. ;)


-Dan

[Doug Gilmour]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
I havn't mentioned Cisse. (sp?) Thats really harsh, he broke his tibia and fibia, and you literally on tv saw his shin away go all floppy and snap.

I'm making my rounds through this thread, catching back up, and I couldn't let this one go.. Where exactly is the fibia located Jack? I don't think I've ever heard of it... :D

It's tibia and fibula :D Gr. 11 Health class does come in handy sometimes it seems ;)

-Dan

[andrew]

Heck of a triple post :D. Since you're talking about clubs, do you guys know when the top club of South America (Once Caldas of Colombia (GO COLOMBIA)) plays in Japan against the top club of... Europe is it?

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by andrew
Heck of a triple post :D. Since you're talking about clubs, do you guys know when the top club of South America (Once Caldas of Colombia (GO COLOMBIA)) plays in Japan against the top club of... Europe is it?

I think the top club of South Africa is Santos or something like that right? The top clib of Europe has not been decided yet. It will be sometime in May, in Turkey.

The match you're talking about is the Intercontinental Cup and should take place sometime in August/September. It usually takes place in Tokyo or France I think.

[Jackus]

Originally posted by Doug Gilmour
I'm making my rounds through this thread, catching back up, and I couldn't let this one go.. Where exactly is the fibia located Jack? I don't think I've ever heard of it... :D

It's tibia and fibula :D Gr. 11 Health class does come in handy sometimes it seems ;)

-Dan

Yeah, yeah... :o But fibia RHYMES!

[Provboy]

Originally posted by andrew
Heck of a triple post :D. Since you're talking about clubs, do you guys know when the top club of South America (Once Caldas of Colombia (GO COLOMBIA)) plays in Japan against the top club of... Europe is it?

It's the Toyota cup and i believe it will be played this december. Once Caldas vs. Porto of Portugal

i heard once caldas has a great keeper. does anyone know him?

[Jackus]

No, I dont...

Viera and Lauren... a bit thick shall we say... :rolleyes:

[Kristiano]

Fergie has a thousand now ;D How many does Arsene have?

Gaz and Ruud were brilliant, our season is finally getting off hopefully.

[Atermis]

My predictions for todays games (sat)

Fulham v Blackburn -- 2-0

Birmingham v Norwich -- 2-0

Bolton v Portsmouth -- 3-0 (come on bolton ;) )

Charlton v Chelsea -- 1-2

Southampton v Crystal Palace -- 1-1

West Brom v Man Utd -- 0-3

Man City v Aston Villa -- 1-1

Sunday

Newcastle v Everton-- 2-0

Tottenham v Middlesbrough-- 1-0

Liverpool v Arsenal -- 0-1

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by Atermis
My predictions for todays games (sat)

Fulham v Blackburn -- 2-0

Birmingham v Norwich -- 2-0

Bolton v Portsmouth -- 3-0 (come on bolton ;) )

Charlton v Chelsea -- 1-2

Southampton v Crystal Palace -- 1-1

West Brom v Man Utd -- 0-3

Man City v Aston Villa -- 1-1

Sunday

Newcastle v Everton-- 2-0

Tottenham v Middlesbrough-- 1-0

Liverpool v Arsenal -- 0-1

You are right regarding the Manchester United one, though I'm not too sure about the rest. Brilliant strikes from Scholelesy and a Ruud header.

We're on our way again!

[Jackus]

C'mon arsenal! Lets how Liverpool. This is our first premiership game with Campbell back, so a decent defender at last... Now all our forwards are injured... Bergkamp: injured, Henry: Fitness Test yesterday, not sure how he did, Reyes: ditto for the fitness test. Van Persie: apparently should be fine, having gone off injured against psv. I like him. Well done to Man (ha ha ha, I just called them "Mac" city by accidnet... :p) City, beating aston villa, shaun wright phillips played well.

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
C'mon arsenal! Lets how Liverpool. This is our first premiership game with Campbell back, so a decent defender at last... Now all our forwards are injured... Bergkamp: injured, Henry: Fitness Test yesterday, not sure how he did, Reyes: ditto for the fitness test. Van Persie: apparently should be fine, having gone off injured against psv. I like him. Well done to Man (ha ha ha, I just called them "Mac" city by accidnet... :p) City, beating aston villa, shaun wright phillips played well.

Wright-Phillips has talent, but he plays for the Blues, that effectively rules him out of ever becoming a class act ;D

I just read I think, that Thierry Henry's back. I hate that man, but admittedly, he's an absolute marvel to watch when on full fly. Liverpool are shackled by injuries too. Sinama-Pongolle & Mellor against Arsenal? Ruud and Wayne tried so hard the other time to score and they're class acts. I simply can't see Pool winning this realistically.

Although as a Manchester United fan, a 0-0 draw would be lovely! ;D

[Jackus]

4.05 kick off on Sunday. Why, the last time we had a 4.05 sunday kick off was against Ma... Noooo... :o

[Kristiano]

When you're playing the Scousers...you don't have to worry about jinxes. They've been jinxed for the last 18 years or so ;D

Ok that was mean, sorry.

[Jackus]

LOL :p

[Provboy]

6 points in 6 games. my my. when will arsenal bounce back. and what jinx? hehe that was a damn lucky shot by mellor which lehmann failed to save. so what's new? maybe arsenal should play almunia now or get van der sar :) so, it seems like arse, manu and chelski will be fighting for the title again. hope everton does well too to spice things up a bit.

[Jackus]

####. We lost.

[Sypher]

I can hardly wait to tease my friend who is an avid Arsenal fan and constantly puts down my beloved Liverpool :D

[Jackus]

Grrrrrr... Don't mention the L-word...

[TheDoctor]

As a West Ham fan living in South West London I used to have a soft spot for Chelsea, or the West Ham "A" team as I like to think of them, making the lot that play in Div 2, oh all right, the coca cola championship, the "B" team.

But now Spurs have 3 ex hammers, Portsmouth have more than their share and Man City have at least 2, my beloved irons seem to have relegated themselves to the "E" team.

Still, I can always look forward to an away game in Rotherham on a rainy Tuesday night in January...... *sigh* air goes all wobbly and TheDoctor starts dreaming of Bobby Moore, Trevor Brooking, FA cup wins...............

[andrew]

Originally posted by provboy
It's the Toyota cup and i believe it will be played this december. Once Caldas vs. Porto of Portugal

i heard once caldas has a great keeper. does anyone know him?

Sorry for the late response (I thought I was subscribed to the thread), his name is Juan Carlos Henao, he played great in the Toyota Cup against Boca Junior of Argentina but when he played for Colombia to defend their Copa America title he didn't seem to be what the team needed.

[Provboy]

wow thanks for the info andrew.

Finally Arsenal gets a clean sheet. yay

[TheDoctor]

And West ham manage not to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yay x 2

[yinyang]

Originally posted by Sypher
I can hardly wait to tease my friend who is an avid Arsenal fan and constantly puts down my beloved Liverpool :D

good on you sypher, another liverpool fan :D

remind your friend that arsenal still haven't won the champs league yet, let alone four times ;)

lame result against villa, but at least we didn't lose!!

now we just have to beat those greeks by a decent score to move into the next leg of champs league!!

[yuck]

omg, i never knew this thread was talking baout the real football!.. lol
arsenal vs chelsea next week :)
i hope both of em get into a fight and get 10 points penalty :D

[IlIlIlIlIl]

The BCS is bulls*it....Auburn is undefeated but they will not get a chance to play for the national championship

[Jackus]

At last... The Gooners are back on track. I'll start singing again if we beat chelsea, and go through to the next round of the Champs league... C'mon guys... :)

[andrew]

Originally posted by IlIlIlIlIl
The BCS is bulls*it....Auburn is undefeated but they will not get a chance to play for the national championship

I think you're talking about NCAA American Football. This thread is about soccer, but while you're on the topic, I can't believe U.M. didn't beat Virginia Tech. They've been playing way too sloppy all season; at least I get to see another 'Canes Vs Gators game :)

Back on track, I think I'll post an american football thread to get rid of all the people who mistakenly click here.

[Jackus]

Its "soccer" alright...

[yinyang]

well the gunners are through to the next round of champs - will you be able to continue and beat chelski though...! ;)

[Jackus]

almunia... Grrr... :o

[yinyang]

woohoo - liverpool are through to the next round with an inspirational performance from gerrard :)

what are the chances of an all english semi...!?

[Jackus]

haha, I hadn't thought of that... :o That would be wierd... :p

[Provboy]

can't wait for the Arsenal vs. chelsea match. let's go frenchies. + spaniards. hehe. and way to go, top of the group table in CL

[Kristiano]

So we beat Ar$enal 1-0. Bellion is a pretty good second-stringer I think, maybe in the Solskjaer mould? But we lost 3-0 to Fernabache..damn. So its Chelski in the League Cup then..

[iMacc]

Anybody watching Match Of The Day ?

Quite a weird season so far i think...

Arsenal = no longer invincible

Also, some of last seasons under achievers are riding very high in the league (Everton + Middlesbrough especially) and may mount serious challenges for the last champions league spot.

Interesting xmas period coming up :D :D :D :D

[Kristiano]

My local paper was reporting that if Chelsea win today, the title is theirs. I think that's bolllocks. Being a Manchester fan, the best thing to happen today is a draw.

[iMacc]

Also a manchester united fan.

A draw is definately my preferred result,but with every game that passes the title edges nearer to chelsea's trophy cabinet.

I just can't see them crumbling like Newcastle a few seasons ago.

[Jackus]

C'MON YOU GUNNERS!

[Jackus]

CUMON arsenal!

1-0! w00000t!!! :p

Please, please, please, please, please... :)

[rhodri]

2-2 final score henry got 2 for the gunners and terry and gudjonsen got the 2 for chelsea

everton are still 2nd!!!!!!!!

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
CUMON arsenal!

1-0! w00000t!!! :p

Please, please, please, please, please... :)

Poor you lolx. A draw is a perfect result for a Manc like me! I'm pretty sure that we can beat Fulham in about 19 hours time so that means that we'll be back on track after Xmas.

Watch out Arsenal & Chelsea! Oh and maybe Everton too. I think they look good for Europe. Moyes has done a good job there.

[Provboy]

GREAT game, but it should've been 3-2, henry hat-trick. that was a terrible miss

[Jackus]

It was, an awesome game.

Amazing first goal by Henry, shut up Mourinho about the second, and there should've been a third.

But you know what, I'm not too worried. Having seen that performance yesterday, that blew away anything else, IMHO, shown by ANY other team this season. If we can keep that belief going, we have it in us to do well in the League and Champions League.

Man Yoo now need to lose, keep that gap between the mighty Everton, us and Chelsea... :p

[Kristiano]

As I write this, its halftime from the Fulham-Manchester match and United are leading 1-0, Smudger scored. However, Keane hit the upright once and had a brilliant shot saved by Van Der Saar, Waz hit the post and Ronnie drove wide from about 5 yards.

We clearly dominated the first half. So Arsenal's lead over us look set to be cut to 1 point?

[iMacc]

COME ON MAN UTD ! ! !

The title race is by no means over. I didnt realise we are potentially only 2 points behind arsenal if this result goes our way.

Come on Roo-naldo. Another goal should see fulham off for sure ;)

[Jackus]

CUMON FULHAM...! :D

[Kristiano]

#######! That Dioup guy blasted in on 87minutes! I turned off my TV on 86mins coz I thought since it was so boring and we dominating, the Fulham guys wouldn't score.

I'm so effing ####ed.

[Jackus]

w0000t! :D :p

Nice one Fulham... ;)

[Provboy]

hehe Fulham does a "man u" with a late equalizer

but arsenal still sux at defending set pieces they should do something about it. Go Gunners!

[Jackus]

I'm so excited about arsenal now, after that game... :) I dunno why, I just think we needed an awesome performance.. As a pick me up. As it is, Man Yoo are 4 points behind, and I'm cool with that... :D

[iMacc]

Man u are not finished yet though


Once VAN the MAN starts firing on all cylinders again the gaps will close............................................. ................(hopefully ;) )

[iMacc]

Man u are not finished yet though


Once VAN the MAN starts firing on all cylinders again the gaps will close............................................. ................(hopefully ;) )

[Jackus]

Mmmm... Its not even the new year, and at iPodlounge, the tension is begining to rise...

[Provboy]

i thought it was Van the horse? :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
i thought it was Van the horse? :)

... He's a brilliant striker okay. Unlike Thierry "Same Old Arsenal, Always Cheating. Freekick Cheat" Henry ;D

We'll be back soon. With 4 top class stikers in Saha, Smudger, Waz and Ruudy, we'll be top of the table before long.

[Provboy]

i didn't say he wasn't brilliant :) horses have powerful kicks :D

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by provboy
i didn't say he wasn't brilliant :) horses have powerful kicks :D

At least people bother to name their horses after him.

Unlike Cheats. You know the old song, "Same Old Arsenal, Always Cheating.." It's being repeated over and over again coz of Robert "Diver" Pires and that Henry chap.

;D

[Jackus]

Eugh. Thats all you've got...? :) Whose your top scoring midfielf player this yaer then, eh..? :)

[iMacc]

Ruud Van Nistelrooy looks nothing like a horse !!! (i'd say donkey
:D ;) )



Also, i heard that Viera and Pires had been picked for the french olympic team (not playing football though)





*cough* Divers *cough* *cough*

[iMacc]

Originally posted by arsenalmad10
Eugh. Thats all you've got...? :) Whose your top scoring midfielf player this yaer then, eh..? :)




Paul Scholes = 4 :( VS Robert Pires = 9(i think???)

[Jackus]

Yup. My point entirely... :) And Reyes.... ;)

[Kristiano]

So far this year, Scholesy had 18 goals (You said year, not season). Robert Pires has 28 goals this year. And if you look at it this way, Pires has played at least 20 games more than Scholes because of Scholesy's injury at the start of the year and at the start of the season as compared to Pires.

And of course, not to forget the diver part. *Cough cough.

I'd take a European Cup winning player to someone who has never won a European trophy at club level anyday.

[Provboy]

Rooney is a diver too. No use denying that :)

[Provboy]

and let's stop this bickering and just enjoy the rest of the season. Arsenal and Man u and the rest of the prem should concentrate on getting "dirty money chelsea" out of the top spot.

[Jackus]

lol. But Kristiano, I'd prefer Pires to Scholes anyday. More goals, more setup, looks cool.. :) French.. Plays for arsenal.. :p

[Kristiano]

Rooney's 18 and still immature. Pires is 30. And he doesn't look cool...

But truetrue Provboy, we ought to get moneybags off topspot. And keep Everton's filthy hands off it too ;D j/k

[Jackus]

Pires isn't 30... ;)

Liek... 26 or 27.. :) Scholesey however... ;)

Thanks god there are no chelsea supporters here, btw.. :)

[Kristiano]

From 4thegame.com

Robert Pires
Squad Number:
7
Position:
Midfield
Place of Birth:
Reims, France
Date Of Birth:
29/ 01/ 1973
Height:
6'0
Weight:
11st 5lbs

Do the match, he's 31 and approaching 32 ;p Older than Scholesy

[Jackus]

Wow... I did NOT know that... :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by Jackus
Wow... I did NOT know that... :)

Yeah I know that you didn't...Nice new display name btw, how'd you do that?

[Jackus]

With a little help from my friends.. :)

Dan.. ;)

I think its better, cleaner... You're also the first one to have noticed, btw :)

[Kristiano]

Originally posted by Jackus
With a little help from my friends.. :)

Dan.. ;)

I think its better, cleaner... You're also the first one to have noticed, btw :)

That stinks of nepotism ;D

Shows just how fickle Arsenal fans are :p Converted to Chelsea now that Arsenal have started losing, haven't you? lol j/k

[Jackus]

I've also just noticed your sig - I have tunewear for my mini too...! :)

And socks.. :p

[Kristiano]

I overpaid for my Tunewear I think, I bought it in China. Sneaky Apple corner...I paid around RMB360 for it, which is around (damned the pound sign is missing on the PC Im using now, never this on Mac) 23 pounds. How much did you pay for yours?

The case doesn't look nice on my Mini but it's nicer than any of those ugly skins and I needed to protect my Mini, so what the hell. Btw, Jack, do you have a Mac?

[[zerophase]]

all i can say is that the pats kick ### and are unstoppable.

[Jackus]

Originally posted by Kristiano
I overpaid for my Tunewear I think, I bought it in China. Sneaky Apple corner...I paid around RMB360 for it, which is around (damned the pound sign is missing on the PC Im using now, never this on Mac) 23 pounds. How much did you pay for yours?

The case doesn't look nice on my Mini but it's nicer than any of those ugly skins and I needed to protect my Mini, so what the hell. Btw, Jack, do you have a Mac?

Yank Alert!

My case doesn't look that good on my mini either, so much so that I tend not to use it at all, just look after the mini like hell... Then I got some socks, and I like them, not just because on their own they look quite good (IMO, of course :)), also because when its in the sock it doesn't get scratched, which is what I'm trying to protect it from, I'm not stupid enough to drop it... :) So I use them now. On the price thing... I got mine from america, my aunt brought it over when she came over for the summer hols, and it came to ??13 because of the crap doller. You probably got overcharged a little aswell... A combo.

I do not currently have a Mac, but. by my no. of posts at iOnMac are deeply interested in them, and am eying up a PB 15". My sig needs o be updated, I decided I want a lappy, so I ruled out the iMac G5. So, I'm in the process of saving.. Early next year, my new best friend will join me... :p

Football... Chelsea playing Norwich today, and I'm sure we can both agree Huckerby and Bently (Arsenal, whey!) need to have an awesome game, and beat them or draw... Do a Man City, in other words.

I actually got round to watching the arsenal chelsea game on monday, and saw Hnery's goal (first). If you havn't seen it, Kristiano or other football fans, go watch it :) Awesome control, one touch and a lobby-volley shot, with power, and Czech was beaten.. The other one was quite comical, while still being legal, I stress... :o

The Champions League draw seems very interesting, Man Yoo are gonna be pushed to the wire by AC Milan, a draw which Sir Alex picked uncannily well. Not just saying this because I *hate* Man Yoo, but I don't think they will beat AC Milan. Maybe very close, but I don't think they will.

Chelski have a nasty clash with Barcelona, but, unlike Man Yoo, I think they can deal with Barca, and send they packing...

Arsenal's draw leaves me feeling dodgy again, this feels liek one that we can #### up with ease. We have the technical ability to beat Bayern, but whether we will pull it off on the day... Who knows.

Liverpool's luck appears to be holding out with a draw against Bayern Laverkusen, who are 8th in the Bunders league. I went to Arsenal vs. Bayern Leverkusen a couple of years, or maybe it was last year, ago, and they were not a bad team. But we easily beat them, 2-0. So they *should* qualify for the quarters which will be good for them, but thats as far as I see them going.

There we go, a nice long post for you, sorry to go on... :)

Thoughts anyone, if your brave enough... :p

[Doug Gilmour]

I was looiking at the Champs League matchups today. I can't wait for the Chelsea vs. Barcelona games! I'd say those are the top two teams in Europe, currently. Manchester vs. AC Milano should also be good, I'd say Man U are in trouble...

Yes, Crystal Palace just scored against Man. U! :D

Good stuff.. Should be a good day for football, with Juventus vs. AC Milano coming in about 1.5 hours in Serie A play...

-Dan

[Doug Gilmour]

And just after I post that, smith scores to make it 2-1 Manchester... :mad:

-Dan

[Jackus]

Yeah, I know... :(

[Provboy]

palace = bad defending, but great keeper in that game