Sorry I purchase a Touch

[Astro_Digital]

I like gadgets and Apple seems to be abandoning the Classic so I thought I try the touch.

I am sorry I did.

1) Very poor battery life, and it becomes really bad when you turn WiFi on, play games, or watch movies. So I find I do only one thing listen to music.

2) Very low capacity 32Gig !!!! I had to painfully trim down the music I carry to 4000 or so songs and only a few videos.

3) The touch is not friendly to jogging blind navigation.

4) The touch is too expensive, Apple gouges people and the customers do not care Dell just released a 256G solid state drive for $400. The unimaginative people here say Apple charging about the same for 32Gig is fair.

5) The games and applications. One of the reasons I bought the Touch are so bad that they can not be played and if you do play them in an hour you need to recharge to the touch.

I am sorry I bought a touch.

Does anybody else regret buying the Touch?

If Apple does not do something to improve capacity and battery life I would never buy another Touch.

[adrian.walsh]

I can give you my opinion although i have never bought or owned a Touch. Last year when I was in the market to replace my older iPod I did consider a Touch for all of about 30 seconds. Things that put me off purchasing one was the very small capacity - far too small for true music lovers, I also considered the Touch to be far too expensive for the small harddrive space - as the only reason I would ever buy one is as a second iPod but not at that price!

So all in all I agree with what you have said, just can't comment on battery life or the functionality of the Touch itself.

[gregnkc]

Did you not do ANY research prior to making the decision to purchase the Touch?
Did someone MAKE you buy it?
32 Gig is what is advertised.
6 - 8 hr video, 30+ hrs audio battery life is advertised.
The Touch is the best at what it is designed for. There is nothing on the market like it.
I did lots of research when replacing my Creative MP3 player and am extremely happy with the Touch.

[belfastboy]

well said gregnkc im looking into buying one myself and i thought id use abit of common sense and research it first before i make any decision :)

[Kingnitro]

How many songs can someone listen to in a week or month? I have 2,500 songs on my iTouch I still run into songs I didn't remember loading. My nephew has around 4-5,000 songs and I'm willing to bet half of those he's never listened to.

[Astro_Digital]

I can I do have 4000 songs on my Touch it takes about 160 hours or so, about a month to go through them.

But I would really love not syncing my Touch once a month.

There is no way I get 6 to 8 hours video fully charged one full length movie kind of kills to battery. Sure if the specs.... were honest but they are not I like to see somebody take a fully charged Touch, default settings and watch 6 hours of video.

What about the Apps? You seen them on TV commercials how would you know what they are like until you buy a Touch and use them. Me I found not one app that was not a piece of junk.

One thing the Touch has and still has it is very pretty.

As I said last September Apple made it clear that they were not going to support the classic. So I thought ok I will try it.

Nobody wants to comment on the 256G drive offered now by Dell for only $400 and tell me why Apple could not match that price?

Can imagine as an upgrade 256G the only issue I have left is the poor battery life.

[kornchild2002]

I hate to say it but all of these things are kind of obvious. I ended up selling my 2G 32GB iPod touch to a relative along with my iMac. They offered me a good price for both so that they could give them to their kid who is going to college this Fall. I am still saving up for a 2G 32GB iPod touch so I can buy one back but I am contemplating not getting one.

Anyway, all of this is kind of common sense. The 2G iPod touch is able to get its advertised battery operation times and both my experience and iLounge's review agree. It isn't like the 120GB iPod classic which can easily get over its battery playback time (audio coming in at around 45 hours and video at 8 hours) but at least the iPod touch is actually able to get the advertised lengths. It isn't like the old 3G iPod where Apple advertised 8 hours and everyone only got up to 6 hours.

Either way the iPod touch is what it is. Apple wasn't hiding anything when they released it. The box clearly states the capacity, you can go online and get the battery playback times, you can look up the price well before marching into a store, and so on. Sure, Dell just released a 256GB SSD for $400 but that is all it is. People tend to forget that the iPod touch requires research and development, a large multi-touch screen, a wi-fi antenna, a battery, a logic board that can handle multiple tasks (audio playback, video playback, the combination of the both, playing 3D games while playing audio and accepting input from the screen and accelerometer, etc.), and an OS must be programmed for all of this hardware. You can also look at it this way: Dell has that drive for $400 but why do they charge customers $460 (or more in some models) if they want to put that in their notebook configuration? Why is Dell charging the extra $60? Oh, because more goes into technology than just the components used to make them. Technically speaking these SSD drives don't cost that much to make them but all of these companies (Dell, HP, Apple, Sony, everyone) are profiting off of a limited market and new technology.

[studogvetmed]

If the features of the touch are not worth the current decrease in capacity, one should not buy it until the capacity increases as Solid state memory reaches comparable capacity.

Personally to me, there are a few things about the touch that would compel me to cut down my music library for the iPod to have some fun with the touch, but that is me personally.

4) Comparing the price of just a 256 SSD to a media player with 32GB capacity is apples to oranges. It's not that 32 vs 256 is "fair" it's that $400 is better spent on a 32GB player that does something other than just "hold" data. What good does a $400 256GB drive do me if it only HOLDS data? To use that $400 drive for anything I have to buy something to read that data off it ;P

One's expectations of a product will of course dictate how much a person will enjoy their purchases. I know a lot of people who are happy with the iPod touch, but there are also many who are disappointed, it all depends on your outlook. Many others are waiting patiently for capacity to increase before they pick up the Touch. I'd want a minimum of 60GB before I would try one.

I personally think you had higher expectations that the Touch could never of lived up to and you likely should never of tried on. I don't look so much that Apple is abadoning the Hard Disk iPods at this point, as much as they have kind of peaked at the tech they can put into it outside of capacity increases personally. Tweaks here and there, but little more wow factor is to be had in that product line is my opinion.

[bobb-mini]

Question to OP... if Apple offers u a 256G model but battery life (because the need to support a bigger memory chip's power drain) HALVES the battery life, would u then buy it?

I ask because u pick on the pieces but ignore the engineering compromises required for the final product.

[Astro_Digital]

I do not think it will, the 8 Touch, 32 Touch same battery life. You are only powering a solid-state device.

But I would need to think hard, as long as WiFi, the display is off and it only plays music the battery life is ok.

Since I use it for music mainly, maybe but I did to think long and hard.

[bobb-mini]

Since I use it for music mainly, maybe but I did to think long and hard.
Well now am throughly confused.

U wrote a paragraph by itself how video suxs battery.

U also wrote a paragraph how unhappy you are with the applications.

NOW u say u mainly use it for music.

So what is it?

Is been an on-going chat on this forum how the Classic is the better machine for music-centric use.... sounds like u fell for the latest, but not necessarily the greatest for ur intended use.

[Astro_Digital]

Would not want to confuse you....

Talk slow so you understand.

Apple last September stated that the future is the Touch.... Got that ????
I decided I would try it, Understand ????
Apple claims that the battery life out of the box is 6 to 8 hours, understand??
I said it is not, Got it??
I said when you turn WiFi on, run applications it is worse, Do you understand??


But I seem to remember four other things I mentioned I was not very happy with. Never mind do not feed the troll. Time to move on......

[kornchild2002]

I was actually able to get 5 hours out of my 2G 32GB iPod touch with the wi-fi turned on and the screen brightness set to 100%. I was further able to get about 7 hours of video playback with the screen brightness set to 50% (which is more than enough) and wi-fi turned off. These more than beat Apple's advertised specs. Here is a direct quote from Apple's website:
"Testing conducted by Apple in August 2008 using preproduction hardware and software. The playlist contained 358 unique audio tracks consisting of content imported from CDs using iTunes (128-Kbps AAC) and content purchased from the iTunes Store (128-Kbps AAC); video content was purchased from the iTunes Store. iPod units were associated to a Wi-Fi network and Auto-Brightness was turned off; all other settings were default. Battery tests are conducted with specific iPod units; actual results may vary. Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge cycles and may eventually need to be replaced (see www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery). Battery life and number of charge cycles vary by use and settings. See www.apple.com/batteries for more information."

So you see that Apple has disabled auto brightness and left everything else on by default to get those numbers. My tests match Apple's and so does iLounge's.

I can I do have 4000 songs on my Touch it takes about 160 hours or so, about a month to go through them.

But I would really love not syncing my Touch once a month.

Completely understandable but Apple was not hiding the capacity from you. The 2G 32GB iPod touch clearly states that it has a capacity of 32GB. Complaining about this is like going out of your way to get a pink Hummer and then complaining about how much you hate the color pink. You knew the car was pink before you saw it, you actually saw the color pink before buying it, and yet you still complain about the pink color as if the dealership had the car under a shroud and didn't let you look at it until you purchased the car.

What about the Apps? You seen them on TV commercials how would you know what they are like until you buy a Touch and use them. Me I found not one app that was not a piece of junk.

Have you played the Spore game? Have you played any of the 3D racing games using the accelerometer? Have you tried every single app on the store? Sure, there are some real stupid apps that are pointless but there are some great apps. This is true for any platform out there whether it be Mac OS X, Windows, the PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, or Xbox 360. All platforms have good apps/games along with their fair share of terrible apps/games.

As I said last September Apple made it clear that they were not going to support the classic. So I thought ok I will try it.

Apple is still supporting the iPod classic. It was evident with the release of the 120GB iPod classic as it runs a more solid firmware and has Genius. Apple's newer video accessories even support the iPod classic. Remember that Apple pretty much equally supports every iPod. The apps are not developed by Apple, only sold by them through the iTunes Store. So other companies are supporting the iPod touch more, not Apple. Apple would have cut off iTunes Store support and iTunes support if they were going to neglect the iPod classic. That is just no the case. Actually, one could claim that Apple is abandoning iPod support in general and is focusing more on the iPhone. OS updates are free for the iPhone yet iPod touch users must pay for the updates.

Nobody wants to comment on the 256G drive offered now by Dell for only $400 and tell me why Apple could not match that price?

Can imagine as an upgrade 256G the only issue I have left is the poor battery life.

Alright, two people (one of them was me) commented on the 256GB issue with Dell. I even asked you a question as to why Dell charges an extra $60 (or more) to put the 256GB SSD drive in their notebooks. So what have you to say about that? I am curious as to how you are getting your number. These drives do not cost $400 by themselves. Dell is giving people a huge discount when they put the drives in their computers. You simply can't compare the discounts that Dell gives people when they purchase a $1500+ notebook with the discounts that Apple give people when they purchase a $400 portable mp3 player. Additionally, a 256GB SSD drive can be purchased for around $750 by itself. So where is this Dell 256GB SSD drive that I can purchase for a flat $400?

I don't mean to be rude but you obviously just aren't getting it.

Edit: I also wanted to add that a 32GB SSD, meeting the specifications of the one inside the iPod touch, will go for about $300 by itself.

[bobb-mini]

Apple last September stated that the future is the Touch.... Got that ????
I decided I would try it, Understand ????
Apple claims that the battery life out of the box is 6 to 8 hours, understand??
I said it is not, Got it??
Oooohhh, u fell to the hype.

I said when you turn WiFi on, run applications it is worse, Do you understand??
This item is so old. And it's like a DUH! issue. Am surprised u don't already know. Turn on AC, it's gonna use more gas, DUH!

[Teechur]

I like gadgets and Apple seems to be abandoning the Classic so I thought I try the touch.

I am sorry I did.

1) Very poor battery life, and it becomes really bad when you turn WiFi on, play games, or watch movies. So I find I do only one thing listen to music.


I am getting fine battery life. I watch at least 40 min of video on it on the way to work every morning. I do keep a charger at work to charge it while it sits, but I get the advertised battery life.

Knowing it didn't have a 100 hour battery life, I simply charge it when not using it.


2) Very low capacity 32Gig !!!! I had to painfully trim down the music I carry to 4000 or so songs and only a few videos.


And??

So you can't carry more music than you can possibly listen to in a month? I just created a playlist of my favorites, from there created a playlist for my Touch that cycles in music I haven't listened to (playlist = favorites, size = 10 GB, select by least recently played). I have another list of current favorites, another of current books. So if I get a new album, I pop it into current faves so I can listen.

I carry around 3-6 movies at all times, 6 TV shows, last three unwatched episodes. Tivo feeds them to my computer, my computer converts them and pops them into iTunes. All I do is once a month go in and delete watched epis I no longer want.

I will give you that the classic can carry most of my music, but rarely have I been out on the road and had a "music emergency" where, if I didn't listen to the third track from my Hello Goodbye album it was a life or death situation.

3) The touch is not friendly to jogging blind navigation.

I will totally give you that. This frustrated me until I got the Nike+ watch that controls it. Now I start the workout, put it on pause, and when I hit the street I just have to hit the watch to start, stop, forward to the next song, etc. Man it's made jogging with the Touch easier!

I also got a generic clip on phone case with a clasp that attaches to my running belt. I almost went back to my Nano for jogging until I got these two things. Now I love the Touch for jogging, especially with the advanced Nike+ features built in (like being able to calibrate every run).

4) The touch is too expensive, Apple gouges people and the customers do not care Dell just released a 256G solid state drive for $400. The unimaginative people here say Apple charging about the same for 32Gig is fair.



With rare exception do companies "gouge" in a free market. If the price point is too high, it won't sell. We've seen the prices of the Touch drop dramatically. Yes, it's more expensive than the hard drive based Classic. But it also is:

a) A newer technology
b) Much more technically advanced

As demand raises, prices drop. Econ 101...heck, Econ 97! No wait, Sophomore US History.

5) The games and applications. One of the reasons I bought the Touch are so bad that they can not be played and if you do play them in an hour you need to recharge to the touch.

Subjective. Some may not float your personal boat, and some aren't great. Fortunately there is a rating system, and if a number of people have said something sucks, I don't buy it...or I go for the free lite version and try before I buy.


I am sorry I bought a touch.

Does anybody else regret buying the Touch?

If Apple does not do something to improve capacity and battery life I would never buy another Touch.

Obviously they WILL...it's all about advancing technology. "Wah. I can't have what I want right now for the price I want it. Therefore Apple sucks and is gouging me. Wah." Do you see how childish that is?

You are a relatively early adopter. If you're going to do that, you have to expect it won't fulfill your every expectation in every capacity either due to technology not quite being there, the pricepoint to include said technology being too high to put into a consumer device so it will still sell, or lack of demand. (Sometimes as consumers we don't demand things until something comes out, and then we want it BETTER than what is currently available...this drives development.)

Nope. I'm not sorry at all. I love my Touch. I use it ALL the time. I've worn out more iPods than you can shake a stick at...but really, I haven't. EVERY one I have ever bought (that wasn't stolen) still works to some extent. A few are "blind" (no screen...water damage), but these are fantastic pieces of hardware.

Are there things I want to see in future generations? Sure! I'll see in September what Apple comes out with next. But I'm not going to buy something that is exactly as advertised then whine all over message boards that it isn't what I wanted because it ONLY does exactly what it says it will do.

Takes all kinds...I figure there are people who get to the gates of Heaven too and say, "What? Streets of GOLD? But I'm a Winter and it clashes with my palor...and what are those pearly gates? TACKY!"

[Astro_Digital]

Ok I get it you like the touch, stupid me I have my own opinions which are often wrong and I think it is my right to make mistakes but I did not ask you to point out the error of my ways I asked one question. It maybe a stupid question but I asked only one question. If you bought a touch do you regret it?

You can answer it yes or no.

You can even say No I do not regret buying, the battery life is ok for me, I found apps I like etc.....

But when you just say you are stupid Technician and this is why; you are not answering my question are you?

Do not tell me how dumb I am, that is own news.

[gerwen]

The thing is, most of what your complaining about, you knew before you bought it. And with very little research, you could have known everything that you're complaining about. That's why everyone is talking to you the way they are.

You should have known not to buy it before you did.

No i don't regret buying my touch. I love the thing. It has met or exceeded all my expectations.

[kornchild2002]

Now don't get mad at us just because we saw through the holes in your complaints, see no logic in any of your statements, and disagree with you. None of us has attacked you in any way, shape, or form. There is no need to get snippy here. Many of us have addressed your issues yet you haven't commented on what we asked you (mainly about your flawed "Dell has a 256GB SSD for $400" argument).

Hell, I don't even have an iPod touch right now and I am thinking about not getting one until the third generation rolls around (I have a 6-cell Acer Aspire One that can last for 5 hours when wirelessly surfing the internet). That doesn't stop me from seeing flaws behind your statements though.

[ReyZero]

I want to slap this forum with the really bad -Epic Fail- joke
First off memory prices are dropping like this economy, and Apple can't just halt all their productions to add new hardware. There will either be a new iPod Touch with more memory, or wait until the next generation.
As for battery life, more memory could make a difference in power, when you're going into higher solid states, I wouldn't compare an SD card to a full SSD. Plus, OLED could be around the corner which would improve even more battery life, while including a much more beautiful display.
Next point, stop whining about applications sucking, there's what, 15,000 out there? And it's not like everyone's going "omg we hit 15,000 lets stop working on more." I'd agree there's alot of totally worthless applications, but most of them either 1) are obvious to stay away from, or 2) good enough to have a lite version to test it out before purchasing. I've found a couple free applications such as Dead Beat that are pretty damn fun.

I should also mention I'm using an iPhone which has worse battery life then the Touch but I'm getting away with just charging it every night. If you're expecting to sit down an entire day and just play the iPod Touch, I'd suggest you snag yourself some external power units.
I also failed to mention that unless you know of a multimedia device that does what the iPod Touch can in a smaller or equal size, and has higher then a 32GB memory, let me know. Personally I'm still awaiting memory cards since I'd much perfer a device with like 256MB internal with 32GB card support, but that's just me.

[studogvetmed]

I'm sorry Astro_digital, but listing your reasons for your disappointment in the Touch is an invitation to people countering those statements with their personal opinions. That doesn't necessarily make your experiences wrong or without value, just that each person can have a different experience in each area of the Touch.

Weather or a not a person is happy with the Touch is really a question if a person can accept the limitations it has. If you can't, you'll regret buying it, if you can, you'll love it.

[u2ipod2u]

funny thread...

i was an early adopter of a 1G touch. and i would say i understand your regret a little. i went through that at first, even though i read all the reviews and forum comments and knew what i was getting. but once i quickly got used to it and it's differences, my regret disappeared (i even do not regret paying apple extra a few times for touch upgrades...). though i have an iphone now, i still use my touch as my main music player over my click wheel ipods.

having said that, i agree with the others that a little effort and research on your part would have helped you a great deal. in the time it took you to start this thread, you could have found out the battery life (a well known "con" of this device), and its capacity. i would also have suggested going to a store to try out the interface, then taking a day or two to think about how it would fit into your lifestyle.

you also mention apple not supporting the classic click wheel ipods anymore. now, i read a lot on various apple sites, and watch most of their keynotes, but must have missed this announcement. while the classic may no longer be the golden child of ipods, and may not have received the attention or improvement many wanted, it is still an important part of the ipod world that does get updates and additions like new click wheel games. so i do not agree that it has been abandoned. the classic actually seems to give you what you want, especially the UI, a longer battery life, and more capacity, perhaps you can still exchange for one?!?!

please understand that i am not criticizing your opinion, to each their own i say (on another thread someone cannot understand why anyone would own a touch and an iphone, but like i said, it works for me). i hope that you can find happiness with the touch, or exchange it for something that works better for you. good luck.

[Teechur]

Ok I get it you like the touch, stupid me I have my own opinions which are often wrong and I think it is my right to make mistakes but I did not ask you to point out the error of my ways I asked one question. It maybe a stupid question but I asked only one question. If you bought a touch do you regret it?

You can answer it yes or no.

You can even say No I do not regret buying, the battery life is ok for me, I found apps I like etc.....

But when you just say you are stupid Technician and this is why; you are not answering my question are you?

Do not tell me how dumb I am, that is own news.

Seriously Dude...you need to trade in your touch for a good massage or spa day. CHILL!

First of all, you cannot come onto a forum and say "Do you like something? Here is why I do not..." and then expect people to just say "yes" or "no". If you come onto a forum where there are number of people, you are going to get people who disagree with you. You can't say "Only I can have an opinion, you're not allowed to share yours."

I don't think anyone said you were stupid. We didn't all agree with your arguments, but I can disagree with a person without calling them stupid.

What I find silly is that most of your complaints are things that are well known. It's as if you walked in, fully informed, purchased something and then decided that you didn't like it BECAUSE IT DID WHAT WAS ADVERTISED. That's what has people scratching their heads.

Can you buy something and change your mind? Sure. I think that's more like what your actual experience was. It wasn't what you had hoped and you were disappointed, didn't use it as much as you thought you would, and really want it more for a music player than the mutimedia handheld device that it is. That's certainly within your rights...

...as is your diatribe. Your right to post it. Our right to agree or disagree point by point.

So relax! What we are having here is a DISCUSSION, not a fight!

[ThisisCraigP]

I think that the touch is great but diffently not for everyone. So far I have no regrets dropping three bills for one. I think that the battery could be better but it could be a lot worse. I usually use mine around the house because whenever I take it anywhere it always gets mauled by people wanting to use it.