iPhone 3G Dock works with iPods?

[mkoehler]

I'd like to bye an iPhone 3G Dock. I also use an iPod nano (with video) and I want to know, if the iPhone 3G Dock also syncs and charges the nano. The Dock Connectors are compatable I suppose.

[Morfious]

if it would physically fit in there it may work. Your best option is to get the universal dock and the 3G inserts for it. That way both will work 100% and you will have the proper cutouts for the dock.

[mkoehler]

Yes, but the universal dock itself has no cutouts, and besides it looks much less stylish with the iPhone. With the universal dock I can't use the iPhone as speakerphone.

Is out there no one with an iPhone 3G dock and an iPod nano (with video)?

[zippo2008]

before you try anything, please read specs on the iPhone and the iPod Touch.

They charge at different voltages.

This means the following, if you have a dock for any ipod, and you go and put your new iPhone on it, you may end up blowing it.

All docks for all iPods ( including the iPod touch ) are NOT compatibele with the iPhone.

Read this thread:
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-accessories/ilive-travel-speaker-and-dock-do-dad-20262-2.html

and make absolutely sure you read this !
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2007/10/02/iphone-accessory-compatibility-index/

and this page has some very good info, - a must read:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/archive/2007/06/P40/

Be aware: iLounge’s editors have strong reason to believe that existing iPod accessories—and even some recently touted as “iPhone-compatible”—will not work as expected with the iPhone. We have made this point as clearly as possible in several articles on the site leading up to the iPhone’s launch. Unfortunately, because iPhones have not been provided to developers for in-house electronic or physical testing, it will be unclear until after the iPhone’s launch which accessories will have issues, and how serious those issues will be. We have been told that it is possible that certain iPod chargers may break when connected to iPhone, and that it is likely that noises from iPhone will create audio interference with older iPod speakers.

If you are concerned about possible damage to your past accessories, we strongly recommend that you await “safe for iPhone” postings on manufacturers’ web sites before connecting them to your iPhone. Brief tests may not be enough to reveal certain types of issues, and since many electronically different revisions of accessories are out there, it is all but impossible for anyone other than the manufacturer to guarantee that all versions of a specific product will work. We’ll continue to monitor official word from manufacturers, and from Apple, as the iPhone launch nears and passes.

[CocheseUGA]

before you try anything, please read specs on the iPhone and the iPod Touch.

They charge at different voltages.

This means the following, if you have a dock for any ipod, and you go and put your new iPhone on it, you may end up blowing it.

All docks for all iPods ( including the iPod touch ) are NOT compatibele with the iPhone.

Read this thread:
http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum/iphone-accessories/ilive-travel-speaker-and-dock-do-dad-20262-2.html

and make absolutely sure you read this !
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2007/10/02/iphone-accessory-compatibility-index/

and this page has some very good info, - a must read:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/archive/2007/06/P40/

Be aware: iLounge’s editors have strong reason to believe that existing iPod accessories—and even some recently touted as “iPhone-compatible”—will not work as expected with the iPhone. We have made this point as clearly as possible in several articles on the site leading up to the iPhone’s launch. Unfortunately, because iPhones have not been provided to developers for in-house electronic or physical testing, it will be unclear until after the iPhone’s launch which accessories will have issues, and how serious those issues will be. We have been told that it is possible that certain iPod chargers may break when connected to iPhone, and that it is likely that noises from iPhone will create audio interference with older iPod speakers.

If you are concerned about possible damage to your past accessories, we strongly recommend that you await “safe for iPhone” postings on manufacturers’ web sites before connecting them to your iPhone. Brief tests may not be enough to reveal certain types of issues, and since many electronically different revisions of accessories are out there, it is all but impossible for anyone other than the manufacturer to guarantee that all versions of a specific product will work. We’ll continue to monitor official word from manufacturers, and from Apple, as the iPhone launch nears and passes.

This isn't even remotely true.

The iPhone 3G ONLY charges at the 5V USB standard, so any other iPod that charges via USB will work. Which pretty much every iPod since late 2002 does.

If you try to use the iPhone 3G on a firewire charging dock, it simply won't charge. Period. Nothing is going to blow up.

[zippo2008]

I'll have to disagree with you, unless you can back up your statement with a few links, where it confirms what you say, I can't and won't pop my iPhone onto any docking system.

I think you may have not read what I posted. I'm talking about docking systems. Not charging via USB. Obviously USB is going to power and charge all iPods the same way, including the iPhone, but this is not what I wrote about.

I'm taking about powered docking systems created for iPods and not for iPhones.

I have read numerous times that the iPhone and Ipod Touch and Nano are charged differently.

And to further the case, I have a new radio here that works with the IPod Touch, and IPod Nano, but will NOT work with the iPhone. The iPhone gives a message that the iPhone is NOT compatible with it, and it does NOT charge it either, as is the case with the iPod Touch. The iPod Touch charges, the iPhone doesn't. For me, this is proof enough that the 2 charge very differently. Also in my links there's proof this is indeed the case.

I don't want to disagree, but actual experience tells me different, and so websites doing reviews on the iPhone.

This isn't even remotely true.

The iPhone 3G ONLY charges at the 5V USB standard, so any other iPod that charges via USB will work. Which pretty much every iPod since late 2002 does.

If you try to use the iPhone 3G on a firewire charging dock, it simply won't charge. Period. Nothing is going to blow up.

[jason72780]

They all charge via USB even if the dock connector isn't connected to a USB cord. The dock connectors that don't work have nothing to do with voltages but the fact that they use FireWire to charge. While it won't charge it will play music and won't blow up your iPhone.

[zippo2008]

Hi jason,

can you explain a bit on the USB thing you wrote below ?

for example, I have a Belkin base ( dock ) that I bought at Costco about 6 months ago.

There is no USB plug on it, it's just a white base, and it gets powered by an AC adapter that plugs into the wall.

My ipod Touch sits in it, and the output goes to my stereo.

However there is nothing that a USB cord can connect to on the dock, I just checked and I can verify there is nothing there.

So I don't understand what you mean about all docks being powered by USB :confused:


They all charge via USB even if the dock connector isn't connected to a USB cord. The dock connectors that don't work have nothing to do with voltages but the fact that they use FireWire to charge. While it won't charge it will play music and won't blow up your iPhone.

[CocheseUGA]

My home dock (made before iPhone was even announced) charges my iPhone just fine. All the in-car docking systems will still allow the phone to dock, but not all are transmitting 5V to the phone. That's why they don't charge. They're just transmitting 12V (firewire profile) to the dock and that's why the 3G phone won't charge.

As long as the dock is getting 5V and not 12V, any iPod made since (I believe) the 2G will charge just fine, including both iPhones.

There are literally hundreds of posts out there that when people put their phone on their dock solutions, they don't charge because the dock isn't providing 5V and around 800mAh. The phones aren't exploding.

A simple Google search will show you this.

[jason72780]

the USB and FireWire charging have to do with which pins on the dock connector provide power. My car charger uses the pins for FireWire so charged my first iPhone but not my 3g. I have a radio that obviously uses USB pins because it will charge my 3g.