iPhone Boot Problems - PLEASE HELP !

[thelix]

I was using the soft upgrade from Installer to get the 1.1.3 onto my iPhone. Everything was going well when in the middle of the final process my iPhone rang and it stopped the process. After trying to resume the 1.1.3 instal I noticed the application was hung up. I decided to reboot the phone and since then the phone won't go past the Apple logo.

I've tried to reset it several times and the the same thing happens. The phone will not go to Recovery mode, instead it resets when I try the manual process to get to recovery mode. Neither the iTunes, Independence or Jailbreak recognizes the phone.

What do I do ???? Is it possible that the initial boot parts are damaged and the phone is lost completely ????

Any help in getting from this serious boot lock situation is highly appreciated.

[jhollington]

Hi and welcome to iLounge.

It's unlikely that the actual bootloader is damaged, as this is not upgraded as part of the process. The normal "recovery" mode will fail if the phone is stuck in a reboot loop, but you should otherwise be okay if you can get the iPhone into "DFU mode" which is a function of the built-in bootloader itself.

I'd suggest doing the following steps to force the iPhone into DFU mode and restore it:

Connect the iPhone to your computer, with iTunes running.
With the iPhone still connected, hold down the POWER and HOME buttons until the iPhone restarts (screen goes black)
As soon as the screen goes black, immediately release the POWER button, but keep holding the HOME button until the iPhone appears in iTunes in recovery mode (if you're using Windows, you may also see Windows report a "New USB Device Detected" message).
Once the iPhone appears in iTunes, use the "Restore" button to restore the firmware back to the original setings. If you're trying to go through a jailbreak, you'll need to hold down the SHIFT key (Windows) or OPT key (Mac) to choose a different package to restore, otherwise iTunes will simply try to put v1.1.3 on.

[kyussmondo]

Okay I assume you have tried the holding the home button and lock button then keep holding the home button trick? Did a quick Google on it and this is what I found http://unlockitfree.com/forum/index.php/topic,22.0.html . Right near the bottom is a program you can install to remedy your problem. I can not verify that it works or is safe as it is Windows only and I have never had the same problem.

This program will just re-jail your phone. You may have to go the process above of going back to 1.0.2 then going through the upgrading again from square one. If you are using a Mac use this http://www.winandmac.com/mobile/iphone/how-to-downgrade-113-and-make-it-work-as-iphone-again/ method. I have done this myself and it works great after I killed my phone trying to unlock the 1.1.3 baseband.

[jhollington]

Unfortunately, that program was built for 1.0.2 and an older version of iTunes, so it's unlikely to be of much help, as things have significantly changed since then

My guess is still that you're have problems getting into DFU mode. It's a bit tricky until you get the gang of it, although leaving the iPhone connected to iTunes should help you tell when you've done it right, as the iPhone will show up in iTunes in recovery mode.

DFU should pretty much always work as it's a function of the bootloader ROM on the iPhone, which doesn't get touched by any of the normal firmware procedures. In fact, DFU mode should still work even if the iPhone had NO other firmware on it.

[kyussmondo]

Sorry. Just skimmed it through quickly to be honest. As jhollington said just try and get it in to DFU mode. Once you have done that then you should be able to get your iPhone back to its previous state.

[thelix]

OK, thanks for the tips guys. I will try the procedure mentioned above for getting into the DFU mode while the phone is connected to iTunes (Mac version).

I hope this is something different than the steps in putting the phone in recovery mode mentioned in the unlocking guides I found.

I am crossing my fingers !!!!

[jhollington]

One other point to note... When in DFU mode, the screen will remain blank - it will look like the iPod is actually OFF. This is why it's better to do this with the iPod connected to your computer, since there's otherwise no visual or audible feedback to tell if you've succeeded in getting it into DFU mode or not.

Don't let the blank screen fool you... As long as iTunes sees the iPod in recovery mode, you're good to go.

Good luck. :)

[thelix]

Excellent...thanks for the tip again ! I will try that as soon as I get back home from work.

[thelix]

It worked !!!!! I got my iPhone up in DFU mode after a few attempts. Now it runs 1.1.2 unlocked as a charm !

Thanks a lot !

[sgade]

I have seriose problemes - it is a 16 GB iPhone bougt i febuar 2008. It is a frinds of mines iPhone. I think Independence have bine used to unlock and jailbreak. Now it was charing over night, and i think a update was done, but i am not shure.
When it starts it goes direktly in to recovery mode. Every time i try to recover in itunes - "error 1604" is reportet. I have tryed to conect with
- iNdependence
- Pwnage
- iLibertyX
non of these will conect to the phone. Pwnage starts but never goes futher.
I have trued to put the iPhone in to DFU mode - but iTunes reports "unknowen error (2005)"
The only pgr i not have tryed is ziphone - i do not dear try it......Help please

[PG4G]

Ziphone should have no problem if you just use it to put it into DFU mode.

Ziphone only has a problem when you use it to A) Activate or B) Unlock the phone.

You are right, that is a serious problem if it is won't go to DFU mode as then it is either a hardware issue or it is a problem with the bootloader ROM.

[sgade]

well i can get it into DFU mode with no problems - and itunes reconises it. But when i try to rebuild it reports a unknowen error.
Is it better to put it into DFU mode with ziphone, ore does that not matter??
When it is in DFU mode, is there any other program that i can use to restore it??
If it is a problem with the bootloader, will i be able to correct it??

[PG4G]

Try downloading Ziphone and using it to put it into DFU mode as you may only have accidentally got it into recovery mode instead (theres a knack to it!)

Try downloading the firmware it originally had on it... it is 1.1.3 from the time you said... from: http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/

Choose the right firmware.

Now, on a Windows computer, in iTunes, when it is in DFU mode, hold shift and click the restore button at the same time, and in the popup window select the firmware you downloaded. On a mac, select Option and restore. (use firefox on a mac to download it, as Safari will play with the file you download and make it useless)

whoever updated the iPhone (they don't happen by themselves... EVER) they may have irreparably damaged that phone.

Before doing anything with the iPhone in the way of Jailbreaking, reading up is important, and even the jailbreaker programs will say in their help sections you should already know all about it before you do it.

NEVER update an iPhone or iPod touch without restoring via the correct proceedure (which is relocking however the program says you can, and restoring the OS THAT that was originally on the device, using the directions I gave above, and then doing the update.

People should read before doing it.

I waited 3 months and learned everything I could before I went near it.

And I eventually left jailbreaking and unlocking as i rather be on the straight and narrow.

[sgade]

Thx PG4G
I am pretty sure that is in DFU mode, because when i start ilibertyx or pwnage they both say that the iphone is in DFU mode, please put i in recovery mode. Well i will try using ziphone to put in DFU mode, and i have downloade the 1.1.3 firmware.
I know that you should not upgrade an iPhone, but my frind did not.... I did as you read up apon it for a long time, almost 6 month and the got a iPhone. I live in denmark, som the iPhone is not for sales her, so i have to jailbrak and unlock - would rather be straigth if i had the possiblety

[PG4G]

Yeah, I understand.

My point was simple. The person who updated the software should have known better. It was a stupid move.

and it seems to have just stuffed that iPhone.

[sgade]

Can i somehow see what firmware "it was born with"??

[PG4G]

You can't see that..

But it depends when it came out...

Check when it came out...

The release dates are found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_OS_version_history

You will only know if you bought it, or if you know when someone else bought it.

[sgade]

Now i have triede using ziphone to put it into DFU mode, but still iTunes is not able recover. I have downloade firmware 1.1.3 - and used that. Should i try anoter mac???
Well the only last thing i havn´t treide is ziphone. I think is the last chanc or maby send it back to apple

[PG4G]

Ziphone can do nothing to help you apart from put it in DFU mode or screw it up more.

Try another mac if you like.

I believe that the person who updated it without understanding the device and asking for the jailbreak should pay for the replacement.

Apple will not help you if it was unlocked. Warranty doesn't cover it, and Apple can't fix it at a store like they usually would a hardware issue.

Looks like whoever's iPhone it is will not be happy... Direct the rage at the person responsible, and then forgive them and move on :)

[sgade]

I actly have gotten som more "contact" to the phone. Some code have over the screen - a BSD message - that kept repeting it self. Then i rebooted the iPhone, pressing the home and powerbutten and the holding the home button, a massage came "we are haning here..." and nothing happende until i gave it another reboot.
I know that i should move on, but i wont give up with out a fight..... :)

[PG4G]

Try the DFU mode and then restore again. That appears more like a problem I had and it was able to restore.

[sgade]

Is there any different in the DFU mode i my self put it in and the DFU mode that ziphone put in??

[PG4G]

No difference whatsoever. Just ensures it does go into DFU mode as sometimes it won't by hand if you hold for one second less or whatever.