Absolute waste of money [Archive]

nicknmadison

12-17-2007, 10:17 AM

I bought a 16g touch last week. Was maybe the poorest decision I have ever made in purchasing any item of technology.

Nice screen but always dirty..yes, I bought the protector film. Contact list but who cares, they don't link to anything and I need to carry a phone in addition....my 11 year old daughter told me "cool Dad, but what about your phone?"

Listening to books/Audible on here is almost impossible because the search feature is difficult to use. Pictures..who cares? The memory is so limited that it really cannot be used for anything more than a few images.

Returning this thing today and going back to my 80G ipod.

spot1701

12-17-2007, 10:30 AM

What did you think you were buying? If you care about contacts and phone then you buy a little product called an iphone?!
May I suggest you trying researching a product before you repeat your stupid mistake.
Go here www.apple.com

Lance75TX

12-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Well, what he was saying was that he bought the Touch because of the new features and touchscreen. Also, not all of us can get an iPhone...yeah, not everyone uses AT&T. Makes me wonder what the contact feature is for too now that I think about it.

I bought the 8GB over the weekend and I like it so far. I wanted the touchscreen, bigger display and I use it to replace my CDs that are in my car. I don't really care for the contact list and YouTube feature.

spot1701

12-17-2007, 10:52 AM

Well, what he was saying was that he bought the Touch because of the new features and touchscreen. Also, not all of us can get an iPhone...yeah, not everyone uses AT&T. Makes me wonder what the contact feature is for too now that I think about it.
Sure you might not me able to get AT&T, but would you buy an iPod touch expecting it to be a substitute for an iPhone?

The contact feature is as useful (or useless) as the contact feature on a classic iPod.
Apple have made the calendar writeable, so it's possible that the contact list may become the same, but I couldn't give a monkey's about that, because, guess what , the ipod is a music/video player.
I'm sure it says that on the apple site somewhere. ;)

Personally I wasn't going to bother with the ipod touch because of the capacity issues, but I got my wife and iPhone, and it is a dream to use. So now I'm a convert.
I'm probably jumping the gun as 32gig ipod touch's can't be far away, but I just couldn't wait.

But at least I'm not expecting it to be a phone, or a personal address book, or a coffee machine .... :)

BlackWolf

12-17-2007, 12:42 PM

sorry but what where you thinking? did you even take a little peak at what the ipod is designe for and can do?
you buy an 16gb memory device and afterwards complain about too less memory? you buy an portable multimedia player and afterwards complain it cannot be used as a phone?

sorry, but this is you own damn fault. you can't buy a freezer and complain it doesn't cook your meals.

kornchild2002

12-17-2007, 02:14 PM

Don't feed the troll guys. Obviously this person didn't do their research before purchasing a iPod touch as they clearly wanted an iPhone. They also don't know how to use the simplistic search feature built into the iPod touch, don't want to bother using it for photos, and don't even know how to properly sync audio books to their iPod touch (something that is as easy as syncing songs). They also didn't realize want 16GB meant when purchasing the iPod touch. I guess they thought that 16GB was just the memory capacity of something else even though it was clearly listed on the box.

Oh well, their loss for not being able to properly research all the features that the iPod touch has.

nicknmadison

12-17-2007, 02:33 PM

BlackWolf

12-17-2007, 02:53 PM

I voice my opinion and everyone gets defensive about their cute little purchases. Did anyone ever consider that AT&T is possibly the worst network to provide service and that Apple did a huge disservice to its following by going that route?

I gave my itouch to the my nephew...nice toy for him..

what the hell has AT&T to do with the ipod touch? absolutly nothing! if you don't want an iphone, don't buy an iphone! and don't go buy an ipod touch and then COMPLAIN it's not an iphone.

this has nothing to do with getting defensive on my purchase. yeah, I like my ipod. it has some great features. and yeah, there are several things I don't like about the touch.
but to actually complain that an iPod - again, it is an portable multimedia player - does exactly that, playing videos, photos and music and that it doesn't have any phone functions is just dumb. I'm sorry, but this is a fact. and if you buy a 16GB ipod touch, you get 16GB of memory. what did you think? that it will magically be more? 16GB are 16GB. so why do you buy a 16GB device if you KNOW it's not enough for you? there is the ipod classic that comes with 80 and 160GB hard drives. if you need that much disk space, then get one of those.
but the ipod touch does exactly what it's supposed to - so why did you buy it if that's not enough for you?

sorry if I'm getting rude but what you're saying just makes no sense at all, I'm sorry.

hexonxonx

12-17-2007, 03:17 PM

bobb-mini

12-17-2007, 03:39 PM

I voice my opinion and everyone gets defensive about their cute little purchases.
That sounded more like a rant to me and gave u the opportunity to rant on AT&T to boost. Every Joe&Harriet complaints about his/her carrier/cable company blah-blah. Tell us sumthing new. Yeah, next time do research THEN buy, not the other way 'round.

dragontit

12-17-2007, 04:06 PM

This is a funny "rant."

16gigs is small compare to what I really want. Yeah, I could hold out for more capacity but I've waited over 6 years to get my own iPod. I don't think I can wait any longer. There's always going to be better iPods in the future. That's how technology works. Flash is the future guys. My cousin had his 5th gen for a little over a year & the HD died with normal usage. As of now, 32gigs flash is still fairly new & the Touch would be $100 more for that.

Word of advice, do a little more research before buying anything. I love my Touch.

gibsonjunkie

12-17-2007, 04:40 PM

Dumb Monkey

12-17-2007, 05:21 PM

No matter how much you research something, you really don't know what you are getting until you open the box and tinker around for a while. The Touch is new technology and marketed really well. Give the guy a break...

I do a lot of research, but I can't way I never bought something I regretted later...
To a degree that's true. But there's glaringly obvious things that you should know about. I don't own a touch, but I know I'd complain about some things because of the research I did. And then there's the fact that the capacity and features (or lack of certain ones) is spelled out for you. Throwing $400 at something you don't understand is fine if you got money to burn, but otherwise it's pretty foolish. And then to go to an ipod forum to rip it is even more foolish. I guess the world is filled with idiots, so I shouldn't be surprised.

And the fools that make blanket statements about a company/carrier because it doesn't work well in their little world. Truly pathetic.

kornchild2002

12-17-2007, 05:26 PM

We gave the guy a break until his opinion turned more into a rant. Basically every negative mark against the iPod touch was because it didn't have a feature that the iPhone had. The iPod touch is first and foremost an iPod. It has audio, video, photo, and internet capabilities. It isn't trying to be a PDA or a iPhone. The OP ranted about it not having feature X and feature Y when those two are in the iPhone. If the OP wanted an iPhone then they should have gotten one. There are ways to get an iPhone to work on other services like T-Mobile, Verizon, and anybody else who uses SIM cards.

They also complained about the capacity yet it is clearly listed on the box and Apple was even so kind as to give you estimates of how much content the iPod touch can hold. The OP purchased the product then complained about the clearly marked capacity. That would be like me purchasing a H1 then complaining about the gas mileage knowing full well it gets about 3-4 MPG. You should know what you are getting into before you make a big purchase. It just sounds like the OP was going in thinking that the iPod touch was a iPhone. Then he got home and realized that "Hey, wait a minute... This thing only has 16GB and it doesn't have a phone." If they want contact features (I have no idea how the iPod touch would be able to communicate those with a cellphone) and other option commonly found in cellphones then the OP should have just purchased a cellphone/iPhone/Smartphone and been done.

Instead his basic rant has a glaring theme of "its not an iPhone so I hate it" which has been all too redundant with iPod touch reviews. People should know that they are purchasing an iPod when they go into getting the iPod touch.

dragontit

12-17-2007, 05:26 PM

No matter how much you research something, you really don't know what you are getting until you open the box and tinker around for a while. The Touch is new technology and marketed really well. Give the guy a break...

I do a lot of research, but I can't way I never bought something I regretted later...

That's very true. I had to play with my friend's Touch for several hours before making my decision.

But he's ranting on stuff that's so obvious. Like only 16gig of memory. What did he expect? Should have gotten the Classic in the first place.
The screen's always dirty. Well yeah. The front's mostly glass. It's going to show fingerprints, dust & lint. I have to wipe mine a few times a day. No big deal.
The search is hard to use? Is the file tag correctly? If so, it's extremely easy to find.
Then he's complaining about stuff (contact list & picture) that he won't use? Well, then don't use it rather complaining that its there?
C'mon man..

paranoidxe

12-17-2007, 06:15 PM

The memory is so limited that it really cannot be used for anything more than a few images.

I stopped right here, this guy is simply a troll..mods should just lock this thread...that or this guy is a idiot and believes his own BS.

16GB is limiting for videos yes, but its not limiting for music/photos unless you want your entire library with you..in which case you would have done the research and got the classic.

Sirocco

12-17-2007, 08:29 PM

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Sirocco

12-17-2007, 08:47 PM

Look, the touch was designed for Network Engineers. Why is there no explanation ANYWHERE about how to use the wi-fi settings? And why does my Touch connect to someone elses network but not mine? It’s hard to navigate around on the small sreen, and the “touch” typing is a drag. I already have a desktop at home and at work – when would I use the Touch? What with the silly wi-fi issues I’ll never be able to get on and off quickly, which is the main reason I bought it. The Touch seems to satisfy a lust to spend money rather than a lust for technology or to be more organized, efficient, or productive.

One doesn’t have to get into a comparative analyses of brand specific pros and cons, or technical aptitudes of the user, my conclusion is simply that the internet isn’t meant to be viewed on such a small screen. A 10-12 laptop is a more practical investment, without compromising too much in the way of portability.

DerekVOF

12-17-2007, 09:46 PM

Sorry - totally disagree. Most people that have Wi-Fi know how to set it up since you know they already have set it up... If you're going to spend the time setting up a notebook with Wi-Fi, I don't see why an iPod Touch is such a big deal.

If you think it's such garbage, please do us all a favor and return it so we don't have to answer assine questions from someone who's too busy to learn how to use a piece of technology....

nicknmadison

12-17-2007, 11:57 PM

All the people on here that chide each after a simple question is asked. Wonder if anyone would have the balls to do it to someone's face and risk the result...

kornchild2002

12-18-2007, 12:01 AM

Look, the touch was designed for Network Engineers.

The iPod touch was not designed for network engineers, it is for people who want many of the features of the iPhone without wanting to purchase a whole new cellphone. That statement right there shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. The iPod touch is for people who want a iPod with a large touchscreen, the ability to go online, and don't necessarily need to carry around their entire music collection. Linux (all its flavors), Windows Server, Mac OS X server, etc. were designed for network engineers.

I guess some people just can't read their manuals when it comes to syncing a iPod touch with a network. It is explained rather easily. The touch interface is nice and a whole lot easier than cutting off the screen for a keyboard that would be used 30% of the time. These negative comments about the iPod touch seem like they are coming from the same person. Please stop with these comments trolls as you guys have no idea what you are talking about as it is evident in your posts. Quite complaining as no one cares.

dragontit

12-18-2007, 12:16 AM

All the people on here that chide each after a simple question is asked. Wonder if anyone would have the balls to do it to someone's face and risk the result...

I don't remember you asking a question from your rant. Most of the obvious stuff you should have known if you would do a little research & use common sense. Why not? It's $400.

Sirocco

12-18-2007, 12:48 AM

I was exaggerating when I said it was designed for Network Engineers. But if I can't get on and off the network without fussing with the wifi connection everytime, that's a big problem.

The Touch is not intended "for people who want many of the features of the iPhone without wanting to purchase a whole new cellphone", that's a false dichotomy.

I'm not one of those cynics who mocks technology. I embrace technology. I'm not here to badmouth Apple, or technology, and I never said or implied the Touch is garbage, and only a jerk would infer that. I established a wifi connection over a year ago to use with my internet radio called SqueezeBox. It works flawlessly. Even while I was fiddling with the wireless network settings, the Squeezebox continued to work throughout my fiddling while the Touch failed even once to connect. The Squeezebox internet radio worked despite any change to the network settings - the Touch needs the same degree of robustness. The Touch needs to work out of the box - I shouldn't have to make a series of phone calls, or contract with guys at BestBuy, to get this thing to do something as simple as connecting with an existing wifi. Maybe a different brand of wireless router would work. But that's just it, if only certain brands of routers work, let Apple tell me that at the point of purchase. I don't want a research project!

archurban

12-18-2007, 12:56 AM

don't buy anything about technology before checking it. you don't know what you want. but I don't think that you confused with iphone? if you so, you are totally ignorant. google is your friend. the excuse is, which you didn't make a right decision, not working here.

ipod touch is way better than other ipods whatsoever. it depends on how you use. you don't look like being creative, or having useful tips for it. it's not just ipod. you can search for internet, sending mails, checking photo at flickr, other social websites, playing game by web apps, etc. yeah, it's not phone. but at least if you have website or email address in contact list, when you click it, it directly goes to safari browser. you can also delete videos on ipod touch as well. there are tons of tips that you can play it around so usefully.

theevilrobot

12-18-2007, 01:46 AM

bobb-mini

12-18-2007, 02:46 AM

I do a lot of research, but I can't way I never bought something I regretted later...
But of course! But sum1 like that would not start with "Waste of Money blah-blah."

Made impulse purchase now wants everyone else to feel bad with him? So obvious.

paranoidxe

12-18-2007, 03:01 AM

dragontit

12-18-2007, 03:02 AM

I have to agree on one thing I haven't had any personal experience with the iPod Touch..but I do believe the device is overpriced for what it is...the best bang for the dollar really is the classic if you can deal with the bulk and can take care of a HD based player.

It's Apple. What else is new?

I'd have to agree that I can't stand the Ipod Touch. It stops playing songs in the middle of the songs for no reason at all, the internet only works half the time, album art gets their pixels messed up for no reason, transfering songs takes twice as long, the screen gets very messy, and worst of all, there is no dim function-you have to click the screen off for every song and then unlock it again the next time you want to skip tracks or be prepared to completely recharge your iPod every 3 hours. I think it's a disastrous rollout and that they essentially shipped an unfinished product-I've been extremely dissatisfied and am just hoping that these issues will be addressed if they ever get around to rolling out some firmware updates.

That's why I'm desperately waiting for a functioning remote for the Touch.

Soup

12-18-2007, 03:18 AM

nicknmadison

what an absolutely worthless post #####ing about how something that you bought doesn't do something that another item in the product line was designed, developed, and marketed for. Congratulations on looking like a total ###.

paranoidxe

12-18-2007, 03:45 AM

Really reading the review at ilounge is about all you need to see that the iPod Touch isn't what it should be...

They could have kept a hard drive..even if it was just the 80GB HD model and kept it relatively thin in size with the 80GB classic's battery and I think it would be a HUGE hit...but as the review states its very obvious that apple isn't ready to canabalize iPhone sales by making it feature rich..instead they'll just created a half assed iPhone and call it a day..and if you read the review they state that some of the error messages actually reference the iPod Touch as a iPhone..which shows just how thrown together this product was.

As I've said since the latest batch of iPods this year..they dropped the ball in a bad way. This marks the first year where literally none of the new iPods appeal to me..the classic grabbed me with the massive 160GB capacity (something I wasn't even expecting) but due to the horrible software I took it back and went back to my trusty 5th gen.

Apple isn't the same company they were in 2005..seems like ever since the iPhone was released apple has changed their motives..instead of making good quality products they just rushed them out the door to get a buck.

If I get one as a christmas present I will likely take it back in favor of a 160gb classic or I might just not get anything at all and keep the money to buy something else.

Mr. Alaska

12-18-2007, 03:51 AM

I'd have to agree that I can't stand the Ipod Touch. It stops playing songs in the middle of the songs for no reason at all, the internet only works half the time, album art gets their pixels messed up for no reason, transfering songs takes twice as long, the screen gets very messy, and worst of all, there is no dim function-you have to click the screen off for every song and then unlock it again the next time you want to skip tracks or be prepared to completely recharge your iPod every 3 hours. I think it's a disastrous rollout and that they essentially shipped an unfinished product-I've been extremely dissatisfied and am just hoping that these issues will be addressed if they ever get around to rolling out some firmware updates.

What? Read the iPod touch features guide from Apple.com. Most of your complaints are explained there. The stopping of song from playback was fixed with the software update 1.1.2. If your Internet only works half of the time you are doing something wrong. Another thing, double tap the home button to change songs/volume without unlocking the screen. The features guide should help quite a bit. It does however mix up album artwork and take its sweet old time tranfering items to it.

bobb-mini

12-18-2007, 04:07 AM

Mr. Alaska... do u participate in a Fur-Coat competition? :D (just trying to liven up this thread)

atad6

12-18-2007, 05:17 AM

I suppose there are so many different opinions about the device because of its confusing identity. For me it's not really an iphone or an ipod. I don't have a need for an iphone because i don't want to the device to be tied to a contract. I don't really want a hard drive based player since they're bulkier and are easier to break. I'm disappointed that apple left out some apps, but jailbreaking solved that, no more complaining for me, a solution is a solution. I've been using it mostly as a laptop replacement for when I need basic functions of my macbook pro, safari, mail, rss, weather, aim as well a media player in my pocket.

Having such a thin device that's based on the durability of flash is worth the tradeoff of hard drive space for me. 16gb is fine as I use smart playlists, have over 1000 songs loaded, a few full length films and still have close to half the space left. So for me the touch has been one of the better purchases I've made in a while and I've owned a handful of mp3 players and multimedia devices.

I think people often don't like it because it has such a confusing identity. For me though, it's worked out perfectly. It's just necessary to research what it does and see if that works for what you need. I do think it falls short being sold as just an iPod, but I'm not sure how else they should market it.

Sirocco

12-18-2007, 05:21 AM

The point is, the Touch is a very sexy thing. No one is denying this. But many things are sexy at first glance. But then you learn more about it, and it's not as sexy anymore, so the search continues.

A word about "portability": just because something is small and fits in a pocket doesn't mean it's portable. To me, portable implies a toughness, a resistance to wear and tear, which the Touch actually seems not to be. And because it's hard to use while driving, esp if one fast forwards a lot through long files (recorded radio shows, i.e., Stern) the Touch may be best suited (for some) to be permanently docked next to the main stereo, where it will also have easy access to a wi-fi signal while you're enjoying some tunes. The Nano 3G (assuming one is confined to the Apple brand), in contrast, seems more truly portable, being smaller, very slim, and not as beautiful - which is an advantage for those inclined to worry about visible wear and tear.

DerekVOF

12-18-2007, 02:58 PM

Each iPod has it's pros & cons. Otherwise, there'd be no need for multiple models, right? And I don't agree that portability implies durability - the iPod Touch is actually very durable. None of these are designed to be dropped onto concrete or something, but neither is a cellphone unless you've got some military grade rugged one.

And I don't agree that it just should sit next to your stereo or some such garbage. Mine is a portable computer - I take it with me everywhere and it allows me to listen to my music and surf the web and check email from anywhere around me home to the supermarket. Is it ideal for the car? No, but then again anyone who says they can use the scroll wheel to slide around through their tracks without taking their eyes off the road somewhat is just lying...

If the iPod Touch is not right for you, get something else. End of story.

Dunbar

12-18-2007, 04:02 PM

The Nano 3G (assuming one is confined to the Apple brand), in contrast, seems more truly portable, being smaller, very slim, and not as beautiful - which is an advantage for those inclined to worry about visible wear and tear.

I liked my Nano (before I put it through the wash) but it's basically just an MP3 player. The screen is too tiny to watch video on. The Touch is a MP3 and video player that you can surf the net on. Not the mention the apps that can be added by jailbreaking. If all you need to do is play MP3's than the Nano is a much better, more portable choice.

kornchild2002

12-18-2007, 04:13 PM

Yeah, I don't think that portability means durability. Yes the unit will have to sustain some amount of shock but that is nothing that the iPod touch can't already handle. On top of that the 3G iPod nano can be easily damaged as the screen can be scratched with the unit just in your pocket, the back can be scratched easily as well, and it is not impervious to moisture. So by Sirocco's standards, that means that the 3G iPod nano is not very portable as they so previously thought. 99% of cellphones wouldn't be portable considering those standards and neither would any notebook except the rugged ones.

The iPod touch is meant to be portable, why else include wi-fi and a battery? I carry my iPod touch everywhere I go, it is my number one player even though I have access to a 5G 60GB iPod, 30GB Halo 3 Zune, and a 4GB Creative Zen. I use my Zen only when working out, my Halo 3 Zune sits in its box, my 5G 60GB iPod goes with me whenever I need a good chunk of tunes (I still take my iPod touch though), and my iPod touch goes absolutely everywhere I do. I no longer have a need to take my notebook to hotels as I can use the iPod touch to browse the internet. I can also load up two movies on there (I normally have about two on there anyway) which will last long enough for a flight back East and my iPod touch will still have enough juice for about 8 hours of audio playback.

So I guess that means that my iPod touch isn't portable even though I take it on planes, I have docked it in my car, I walk around campus with it, the unit has already spent 5 nights in 4 different hotels and all offered free wi-fi, and it has accessed free wi-fi at a ton of locations including Hastings, McDonalds, a couple of airports, Jack In The Box, and a dozen other places. Nope, that doesn't sound very portable to me at all. Shame on Apple for making such a device that needs to be constrained at home permanently attached to a dock. Give me a break.

espanoliPod

12-18-2007, 04:36 PM

to the original poster: this entire situation is completely your fault due to your lack of research in the iPod touch before you purchased it. please stop whining and trying to blame your mistakes on someone else.

nicknmadison

12-18-2007, 06:05 PM

How awful to have a different opinion.....how is the Kool Aid?

Parak33t

12-18-2007, 06:22 PM

Wow, why doesn't a mod just lock this utterly useless thread. Some uneducated person (about the touch) just started a petty rant. Why? Because they were so stupid to buy something because they simply thought it was cool. This is just an annoying person that everyone needs to brush off.

Well good job nicknmadison you created a thread to flame. I mean if you wanted to see what the touch is like ASK someone for christ sake is it that hard? If you don't know anyone with one go to an APPLE STORE? Man was that soo hard to think of? If there is not an APPLE near you then you could test it at another local store such as Best Buy. You try to sound sophisticated but your not very educated....

5c077.l20x

12-18-2007, 06:49 PM

Wow. Seriously?
Nicknmadison, Your being an ingorant little baby.
Sirocco, you're talking in circles and just not making any sense.
Look. If you dont like it, take it back. Dont post pointless rants on a forum to #### people off. Can you honestly say you didnt expect people to be mad at you and argue when you posted this? You're entitled to your opinion, of course. But most of the people on these forums just dont care. Go complain to Apple. They're the ones who sold it to you in the first place, and the only ones who can do anything about it. Not us.

nicknmadison

12-19-2007, 01:59 AM

Did your daddy pay for yours also....

Sirocco

12-19-2007, 03:29 AM

DerekVOF, you say "Mine is a portable computer", referring to your iPod Touch. Exactly! The Touch is, literally, a computer. It is, therefore, a very complex thing - just not obviously very complex because it's disguised as a sexy thing that's easy to use. So, everybody, stop being surprised to learn that some people are having problems with using it, adapting to it, or finding they don't like it.

Sirocco

12-19-2007, 03:36 AM

Dumb Monkey

12-19-2007, 11:49 AM

So, everybody, stop being surprised to learn that some people are having problems with using it, adapting to it, or finding they don't like it.
Problems using it or adapting to it are not the issue here. Someone is trashing something on a public forum for reasons they should have known before purchasing it. I have no problem with ignorant people realizing they made a mistake, but clearly that is not the case here.

portability DOES absolutely imply a minimal degree of durability! Why do you argue this??? And the Touch is, more or less, durable. And portable. I say less because how is the Touch used? While running? Driving? Riding a bike? While working out? During all these activities, it's a challenge to operate the Touch, compared to devices that have buttons, which are, naturally, tactile. And the glass screen does make it somewhat fragile. Note most mp3 players have plastic screens.
Too funny. First it was portability implies toughness, now it's portability implies a minimal degree of durability. Both wrong, by the way. Consult a dictionary, because portability has nothing to do with durability by definition. In general, portable things have many times been more durable than something made to sit in one location, and the Touch fits that bill. It's just as portable as any other ipod, in fact the glass screen is more scratch resistant than the plastic screen.

Now, if we're talking about blind control of this portable player, then of course it's not as easy as something with tactile buttons. Does one really need to purchase something to understand this? It's common sense. All touch screen with no tactile buttons (except the on/off) will be hard to control if you're not looking at the screen. Wow, what a shock. :rolleyes: If you're looking for something to use while working out, riding bikes, jogging, etc. then a shuffle or nano would be a much wiser purchase. Oh, wait. That would require common sense again, I guess that's too much to ask.

By the way, I control my iPhone in my car very easily, almost as easily as my iPod video. Actually, in some cases, it's easier if I want to quickly switch to another artist/album since the text is larger and I don't have to take my eyes off the road as long. If it's a case of skipping to the next track, well, I tap on the next arrow, in most cases without even glancing at it since I know it's location by memory.

If a remote came out for the touch, the rest would be moot anyway.

dragontit

12-19-2007, 01:06 PM

I've come to the conclusion that the OP is just another troll & is not very educated. He has an 11 year old daughter? Wow.

BlackWolf

12-19-2007, 01:30 PM

Did your daddy pay for yours also....
which actually proves that this is just some 12 year old who thought the iPod touch was cool´, bought it (or got one) without researching at least a little, and then didn't understand how it worked or what it is designed for and wanted to cry a little and posted here.

very stupid, but some people are just too ignorant to participate in an actual discussion, so I'll just stop caring ^^

should get closed ...

kornchild2002

12-19-2007, 01:47 PM

kornchild, et al, portability DOES absolutely imply a minimal degree of durability! Why do you argue this??? And the Touch is, more or less, durable. And portable. I say less because how is the Touch used? While running? Driving? Riding a bike? While working out? During all these activities, it's a challenge to operate the Touch, compared to devices that have buttons, which are, naturally, tactile. And the glass screen does make it somewhat fragile. Note most mp3 players have plastic screens.

Your take on things keeps changing. First portability means durability and now only a small amount is implied. What next? If you think it is challenging to operate a touch while doing all those things then I guess you won't be getting an iPod over the next 10 years as Apple will be switching to designs very similar to the iPod touch. The glass screen actually makes the touch more durable as it can withstand scratches easier and the glass takes a bit more force to crack than the thin layer of plastic protecting the other iPods' LCD screens. Most mp3 players actually have LCD panels for screens with a thing piece of plastic protecting them. The iPod touch also uses a LCD panel but it has a thick piece of glass.

Quite running around in circles and just stop please. You are entitled to your opinion but it has changed quite a bit now so much so that no one knows what you are thinking. We know you don't like the iPod touch but your reasons for not liking it keep going around and around.