buying a playstation 3...

[sahovaman]

i was doing a little research online and i just found out that the ps3's are going to go for a whopping $600.00 (i know, this is older news) but is there anyone here that can justify spending that kind of money for a gaming system? i mean the ps2's were priced at 250 and that in my mind is a very fair price to pay for a game system because if you stop to think about it, this ps3 is going to cost a lot more than 600.00


so, for starters, you have the ps3 its self at $600.00

then you have your games priced at what? $50-$75.00 a piece (i dont know the game pricing since the standard was $50 and awsome microsoft bumped it up to $60

then you have your extra controllers, from what i read, the system can support up to 7 controllers
(http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/technology/ps3_pricing/index.htm)
and your going to probably want at least 2 to play a friend so those are going be priced at at LEAST $80 bucks more than likely a LOT higher because of the gyros inside of them, and the wireless capabilty.

so you've essentially turned your little $599.99 funbox into an $800.00 investment
(the system, 2 games, and an extra controller for your friend). How can parents afford such a thing for their children? people could go bankrupt buying one of these things, and it better have a lifetime warrenty for that kind of money let me tell you, in my mind, this is one of the worst ways you could invest $800.00. i mean you can buy a CAR for $800.00
(obviously not a very good one, but thats not the point) or even a computer which can do a lot more than the ps3 can like visit this cool website and read about ipods and such...

also, the nintendo wii is supposed to cost less than $250. the gamecube wasn't very popular compared to Xbox and Playstation, and they had more kid oriented games, but priced at 250, you kinda cant go wrong. i can see a lot of sales for nintendo because if your kid is begging you for a game system or you are on a budget and want some entertainment and you look at these 3 lined up right next to eachother, then i think you will deffenetly look to the Nintendo or the Xbox first. only the spoiled rich kids are going to be recieving a ps3 from santa this year let me tell you, unless they come down to a reasonable price.

[Kristiano]

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. It's too expensive for you? So what?

You do realize that contary to popular myth, gamers are largely not teenagers but young adults (largely male although that is changing) with disposable incomes who will be willing to pay the $800? And so what if "spoiled rich kids" are going to be receiving a PS3? The game console is a luxury item, it's not a necessity. If you can't afford it, again so what?

It's been reported that Sony (like many other game console makers) are making a loss from such machines due to the high cost of parts and only making money off game royalties. You do realize that no company would raise a agame console price by $350 for no due justification at all?

If you can't afford it, too bad. Or wait til the price drops.

Sony will still sell millions of PS3s.

[Nickster]

i dont know the game pricing since the standard was $50 and awsome microsoft bumped it up to $60


Microsoft Didn't really bump the price up. It's development costs. Look how much more advanced games have gotten and have been $50 since at least the nitendo 64 which was about 10 years ago. Games are more lifelike, better physics, more indepth stories, and professional actors and voice actors. So I still consider it a bargain if you think about it it's only $1 more per year since the 64 and look how much more advanced games are. So don't point the blame at Microsoft point it at gamers who want bigger, badder, better.

[VipFREAK]

I guess no matter how outragous their claims get or if they don't deliver what they promised I'll still be getting one "eventually", but unfortunately all the bratty kiddies will get it wayyyy before me thanks to their daddy's. :rolleyes:

I'm locked in thanks to the GT series (Gran Turismo). I'm such a sucker. :(

[pohatu771]

Microsoft Didn't really bump the price up. It's development costs. Look how much more advanced games have gotten and have been $50 since at least the nitendo 64 which was about 10 years ago. Games are more lifelike, better physics, more indepth stories, and professional actors and voice actors. So I still consider it a bargain if you think about it it's only $1 more per year since the 64 and look how much more advanced games are. So don't point the blame at Microsoft point it at gamers who want bigger, badder, better.
It does have something to do with how developer-friendly the console is.

Super NES games often sold for $60 or $70 (Donkey Kong Country). Nintendo 64 games managed to stay around $50, and GameCube games kept that, sometimes less.

[MusicAddict911]

Yeah, I have read about the price ranges of the PlayStation 3. It will be a high price, so I think I'm going to stick with my PlayStation 2 for now actually.

There are a lot of people that can afford this and probably will make the purchase.

[hyroboarder]

As for the nintendo 64, does anyone remember perfect dark? I saw it somewhere for 80 bucks.

Anyway, if I were you, either start saving or get a Nintendo Revolution. EA games just released that it would be $170 USD. So you could get a 400 dollar xbox 360 and a 170 dollar Revolution for 570, with a game (nintendo says there games are gonna be cheap for the new system) for the price of hmmm.... a playstation 3. I myself am outraged with the ps3 price, not because I can't afford it, because it's so f-ing expensive!!!! And another thing, half the reason I'm getting it is because it can support dual screens, but wait! They have to be Hi-def!! So there, two HD screens @ 1000 each, you're looking at a crapload of money.

I plan on getting a revolution, I have only nintendo systems myself.

But if the ps3 can run OSX, 600 dollars it is.

[moe_4eva]

There is too much more I'd like to buy with $800 than a PS3 (and yes, I am in that demographic that kristiano was talking about). For that price, I could get darn close to buying a Wii (not revolution, hyroboarder), and an LCD TV (best buy has westinghouse 26" widescreen for $550 right now on closeout). I'm going for the Wii either way though, personally. Although not outright so that I can see what problems they're going to have, if any.

[Kcrash5]

I can justify getting a ps3. One, it's a blu-ray player, $600 for a blu-ray player is a very good price. Must other blu-ray players would cost you around $1000. Also, you said the ps2 was $250, that was wrong, it was $300 when it first came out, and it sold so quickly when it first came out that I saw some selling in newspaper ads and such for over $400. I'm not saying that I'm gonna go out and buy one right away, but I think I probably will get one.

[moe_4eva]

I can justify getting a ps3. One, it's a blu-ray player, $600 for a blu-ray player is a very good price. Must other blu-ray players would cost you around $1000. Also, you said the ps2 was $250, that was wrong, it was $300 when it first came out, and it sold so quickly when it first came out that I saw some selling in newspaper ads and such for over $400. I'm not saying that I'm gonna go out and buy one right away, but I think I probably will get one.

The only problem I can see with that is that at this point, there is no way to know which format will prevail, blu-ray or HD-DVD. Potentially, you are just buying a dead file format for $600, much like the PSP movie discs.

[baggss]

i was doing a little research online and i just found out that the ps3's are going to go for a whopping $600.00 (i know, this is older news) but is there anyone here that can justify spending that kind of money for a gaming system?

Some things to keep in mind:

A) Not everybody here falls into the age range of 13-17.

B) Many of us have good paying jobs.

C) $600 is not really THAT much money.

D) If you have the money for it, you can easily justify it.

[zapod]

Considering that in the UK the PS2 went for 400GBP = 755 US$ in todays money, $600 seems like a good deal, especially since the UK PS3 will no doubt also be 400 GBP, which is, er, $755... :rolleyes:

[Jknation]

Some things to keep in mind:

A) Not everybody here falls into the age range of 13-17.

B) Many of us have good paying jobs.

C) $600 is not really THAT much money.

D) If you have the money for it, you can easily justify it.

I agree with, you... if people really want it they will buy it no even though it may be little expensive.

[mrdantownsend]

Honetly, I think that is too expensive for most of america, or at least america's youth...

There's no way in hell I'm gonna get a PS3, I'm probably not gonna get an Xbox 360 or a Wii either

I kinda outgrew video games, I only play N64

[d3m0nICE]

If its too expensive ... dont buy it ?

Am I missing something here?

So what its $600 ... they arent forcing you to buy it.

[Nickster]

It does have something to do with how developer-friendly the console is.

Super NES games often sold for $60 or $70 (Donkey Kong Country). Nintendo 64 games managed to stay around $50, and GameCube games kept that, sometimes less.

Then why buy a PS3 I gurantee that system will have some of the highest development costs. Its processor architecture is different from the wii and the 360 which are both running on PowerPCs. While the PS3 is going on and trying the Cell Processor which not many development houses don't have experience with. Microsoft is now allowing USER created games on the 360 using software on the PC. If any company will cause game price rise I think it will be sony.

[papayaninja]

I also sort of outgrew games. I rarely play (Except for my DS lite, which I love.) I would much rather listen to music or surf the internet (or both at the same time.) As such, I'll just buy a Wii and go to my friends' houses to play the more expensive systems. I'm sure at least one friend will have a PS3, and I would rather buy 2 more iPods...

[sahovaman]

everyone has an excellent point all ways but NO i am not bickering because its too espensive for ME its too expensive for A LOT OF PEOPLE, and yes when the price drops i will probably get one for myself.

a few random quotes which i liked

Hyroboarder said

" I myself am outraged with the ps3 price, not because I can't afford it, because it's so f-ing expensive!!!!"

moe_4eva said

"For that price, I could get darn close to buying a Wii (not revolution, hyroboarder), and an LCD TV (best buy has westinghouse 26" widescreen for $550 right now on closeout)."

i think thats pretty sad if you can buy yourself a differant but new game system AND a really cool BRAND NEW widescreen LCD TV for almost less than the full cost for a PS3 which is 2 games, and an extra controller) and like i said, i HAVE NO CLUE what the price for extra controllers will be, but i think that most people can agree that they will be AT LEAST 80.00

also moe_4eva has an excellent point on whether blu-ray is going to be the new standard vs. hd-dvd, i mean i have only seen 5 movies for blu-ray and none for HD-DVD but right now that doesn't mean anything, i mean look at beta vs. VHS.

(what the world would be like if beta won...)


one thing which i forgot to mention (but its in the link to the article)

Much like how microsoft did it with the 360, there is a 500 dollar version of the PS3 which has a smaller hard drive for one, and a bunch other things which make it inferrior to the 600.00 version. But just like the 360, if you want one, you basically need to go for the better one.


another thing i havn't heard about is backwards compatability, does anyone know if both versions of the PS3 have backwards compatability?

[mrdantownsend]

If its too expensive ... dont buy it ?

Am I missing something here?

So what its $600 ... they arent forcing you to buy it.

Yeah, you are missing something here

We're not acting like we have to buy it, we're saying that it's very expensive

we can all share our opinions, because on the internet, everyone has one ;)

[sahovaman]

well yeah no one HAS to buy it but still just step back from that and look at it,

[moe_4eva]

we can all share our opinions, because on the internet, everyone has one ;)


:eek: :eek: :eek: What?! We can??!! And how come nobody told me?! Well then, I'll start off by saying that Bob smells kinda funny, Jacko can be a bit mean, and I find baggss incredibly attractive. :D

[goldcoaster]

Microsoft Didn't really bump the price up. It's development costs. Look how much more advanced games have gotten and have been $50 since at least the nitendo 64 which was about 10 years ago. Games are more lifelike, better physics, more indepth stories, and professional actors and voice actors. ...

That doesn't make sense when the PC version of the game, with the same voice , graphics etc is 25% cheaper.

I have noticed the xbox360 (which I would love to have) games were AUD$120 when first release (xbox games are AUD$80) - a big price increase ... but now, 6 months later they are under 100 , I think they realised they were too expensive.

[Bonk]

I could think of alot of different ways to spend my $600. Sony obviously didn't think about their teenage customers when they priced this thing. I think I'll keep my PS2 and buy the good valued Wii instead. I don't see any of my friends buying PS3 either. Their parents won't buy it for them and they can't afford it with their average teenager budget. I see Nintendo profiting more from the next generation of consoles.

So if there are any teens making $50,000, be my guest and buy the PS3.

[d3m0nICE]

Sony doesnt have to think about their teenage customers when pricing a system. They want to be the top dog this time around. They want to provide THE GAMING SYSTEM to have. They want the top of the line hardware, the newest and greatest graphics / cpu available. They are aiming for the badass mother######, the BAMF of gaming.


Think about this: A PC nowadays can run for ~$350 at circuit city. You can't run any games on the thing. It does your basic word processing email messaging internet blah stuff, but you cant run doom 3 on it can you? A pc that can run doom 3 at a 1080i res is gonna cost you ~$2000. Now if you are into gaming, why spend that much money when you can get a PS3 for $600, guaranteed no crashes, no installs, no viruses, great softwear, great controller, and you can run it on two huge hi-def TV's. AND it's a computer. It has a hard drive already installed, and it comes with a brand spanking new format that can hold oodles of data creating gigantic games. At $600, this system sounds like a STEAL to me.





edit: And i dont see why teens need to make $50,000 to buy a $600 product. Are you stupid? For me, that's 3-4 weeks pay at my 20 hr job. OMGosh a months worth of work. If you enjoy your job (like I do) then its not a problem .. work for your product and enjoy it theres good ole consumer america for you. I dont see where you get $50,000 to $600.

[VipFREAK]

Sony doesnt have to think about their teenage customers when pricing a system. They want to be the top dog this time around. They want to provide THE GAMING SYSTEM to have. They want the top of the line hardware, the newest and greatest graphics / cpu available. They are aiming for the badass mother######, the BAMF of gaming.

Uh no... they were going for a "Home Entertainment Center" that's why there's blu ray and this high def crap that no one will be able to take advantage of because it's a waste of money unless your that pathetically picky and have money to burn. I don't know who said "I want a Home entertainment center"... I'd like a bad ### system that would play future GT games as good as possible but I've already got a dvd player thanks.

Oh and just to let you know... I got my Pent D 820 w/ a 7800gt gpu for $1000 and it runs FEAR with no problems plus I can do a #### load of other stuff that a "Home Entertainment Center" can. So to that I say bull####...

[zapod]

VipFREAK, does your PC 'blend in' with the rest of your AV getup, or is it a charcoal* box with keyboard and mouse attached. Yes I know you can get PCs in HiFi component style cases, with LED displays and remotes and all that. Are they graphical powerhouses that can run FEAR as seamlessly as they run Windows Media Centre? I suspect the answer is no. I suspect if they did they'd be significantly more than $600.

*see, SEE? I didn't use the word beige! ;)

[Macromedia]

Sony doesnt have to think about their teenage customers when pricing a system. They want to be the top dog this time around. They want to provide THE GAMING SYSTEM to have. They want the top of the line hardware, the newest and greatest graphics / cpu available. They are aiming for the badass mother######, the BAMF of gaming.


Think about this: A PC nowadays can run for ~$350 at circuit city. You can't run any games on the thing. It does your basic word processing email messaging internet blah stuff, but you cant run doom 3 on it can you? A pc that can run doom 3 at a 1080i res is gonna cost you ~$2000. Now if you are into gaming, why spend that much money when you can get a PS3 for $600, guaranteed no crashes, no installs, no viruses, great softwear, great controller, and you can run it on two huge hi-def TV's. AND it's a computer. It has a hard drive already installed, and it comes with a brand spanking new format that can hold oodles of data creating gigantic games. At $600, this system sounds like a STEAL to me.

So if you were to go out and buy the PS3 with 2 controllers and 2 games plus 2 HDLCD TVs. That would cost between 3000-4000$. Can a 3000-4000$ computer run Doom 3 at 1080i?

[VipFREAK]

VipFREAK, does your PC 'blend in' with the rest of your AV getup, or is it a charcoal* box with keyboard and mouse attached. Yes I know you can get PCs in HiFi component style cases, with LED displays and remotes and all that. Are they graphical powerhouses that can run FEAR as seamlessly as they run Windows Media Centre? I suspect the answer is no. I suspect if they did they'd be significantly more than $600.

What you just said is like me going to Bose and buying their over priced, over hyped crap when I can get just as good for a lot less... :rolleyes:

[toothpaste]

I'll be getting one with some games.

[zapod]

What you just said is like me going to Bose and buying their over priced, over hyped crap when I can get just as good for a lot less... :rolleyes:

What I was saying was that in order to get the Hi-Definition gaming/video experience into the living room, you're gonna have to spend more than $600 on a PC. I don't know what $600 buys you, but I know (http://www.xe.com/ucc/) it doesn't get you much here. Certainly not a HiDefinition movie player and high performance gaming machine that fits into your lounge. One that won't need upgrading over it's lifetime. One that won't hang, require a firewall, be at risk from viruses and malware, require security patches, memory upgrades, video card upgrades and other such fannying about.

I don't have time for that. I've been there before and am wearing the T-shirt. For the same reasons I still play the PS2, the PS3 is for me.

[SuperNYK992]

ill probably get one when the price drops, or for my birthday. but untill then my cousin is gettin one at launch along with a LCDTV and some games... so ill be fine untill then

[VipFREAK]

I don't give a #### about high def. It's just a way to suck people into buying #### and keeps making stuff get more and more expensive. I feel sorry for those that are that picky that HAVE TO HAVE the latest and greatest. In the case of the PS3 what percentage of people will actually ever take advantage of the true high def capability of the PS3 and get a HD tv.?? Not very many unless they are again... rich or daddy buys it for them. Hell I wonder how many actually did this with the 360 even. :rolleyes:

[d3m0nICE]

Probably more than you think VipFREAK ... And you gotta remember this is 2006 .. HDTV's are ~$2000 NOW .. what about two years from now? Sony is making a plan not necesarily for NOW but for the future also. A few years from now their system will not be out of date .. while for now my xbox and halo 2 are doing just fine. 5 Years from now you will be able to get a HDTV and a PS3 for maybe ~1000 or less for both of them? AND it will still have kickass graphics. PS2 graphics are out of date... but when did the ps2 release? 5 years ago? I havent done research but I believe it was around 2001 ..

Sony is making a computer system that can sit on top of your dvd player, pick up a wireless controller and turn on your tv to play amazing games. Next year HDTV's will go down in prices, and the PS3 will be the only system to allow two 1080i's ... when right now even one is impressive. nVidia teamed with sony to make the best integration from a graphics card and computer system ever .. allowing for the most detailed and powerful gaming machine to date. What more can you ask for?

[moe_4eva]

I don't give a #### about high def. It's just a way to suck people into buying #### and keeps making stuff get more and more expensive. I feel sorry for those that are that picky that HAVE TO HAVE the latest and greatest. In the case of the PS3 what percentage of people will actually ever take advantage of the true high def capability of the PS3 and get a HD tv.?? Not very many unless they are again... rich or daddy buys it for them. Hell I wonder how many actually did this with the 360 even. :rolleyes:


That's not necessarily true, it's a matter of making it work. For example, I attend college full-time and work around 36 hours a week at a job that pays $9.20 an hour (don't get me started on that, it's just too bad hourly wage isn't based on the merit of what you do). Anyway, I just recently purchased a home with my girlfriend, put around $500 of work into the house, paid $1000 for school, and have plently of cash to purchase a PS3 and an HDTV if I so chose. The issue is that I don't see the point in spending that much for a gaming system. There is, as I said earlier, too much else I'd like to spend that much money on. For some people, gaming is their life though (sadly), so they can justify it. Besides the price, the size alone turns me off. You might as well buy a desktop computer, it would be smaller and cheaper.

[JMG]

$600 seems like a rediculous amout to pay for a PS3 but taking into consideration how much $$ i've dumped into computer games (high end video card, ram, hard drives, cpu upgrades) which for me is a much better gaming experience, it's not totally unreasonable for someone with a)disposable income b)gets a nice tax deduction for electronics and video games.

[JMG]

I don't give a #### about high def. It's just a way to suck people into buying #### and keeps making stuff get more and more expensive. I feel sorry for those that are that picky that HAVE TO HAVE the latest and greatest. In the case of the PS3 what percentage of people will actually ever take advantage of the true high def capability of the PS3 and get a HD tv.?? Not very many unless they are again... rich or daddy buys it for them. Hell I wonder how many actually did this with the 360 even. :rolleyes:

Are you serious? The clarity of hi def is noticable comparted to standard TV. And no my daddy didn't buy it for me. I make more money than him. ;) (what a pompous jerk I must sound like)

Also, you are still not getting the point that more and more the demographic for video game consoles are for the 18 and over crowd. I'm not justifying the $600 price tag, but if it's too much for you than just don't buy it. No use in complaining.. it seems like you are the one who is jealous that you can't have the latest and greatest.

[zapod]

It might sound crazy, but I already have a HiDef TV. I have no HiDef sources as yet. They're not available, apart from Sky HD (the satellite service in the UK) and the xbox 360. I'm on cable, which is yet to introduce a HD service. There are no players and no discs. So why buy HD?

Could it be because that's all they sell these days? That's right. Walk into the TV department of John Lewis (a department store) and the only CRT TVs you'll see are 14" portables. Anything bigger will be LCD or Plasma. Above 20", they are allmost all 16:9 widescreen. 26" and above, they are mostly HD ready. The non-HD TVs are marked down - they're not selling.

Even my local supermarket is selling a no-brand 32" HD ready LCD.

Many of those waiting for the PS3, like me, will already have a TV to get the best out it when it arrives.

[mrdantownsend]

wow, I just noticed, but my monitor is an HDTV

[JMG]

It might sound crazy, but I already have a HiDef TV. I have no HiDef sources as yet. They're not available, apart from Sky HD (the satellite service in the UK) and the xbox 360. I'm on cable, which is yet to introduce a HD service. There are no players and no discs. So why buy HD?

Could it be because that's all they sell these days? That's right. Walk into the TV department of John Lewis (a department store) and the only CRT TVs you'll see are 14" portables. Anything bigger will be LCD or Plasma. Above 20", they are allmost all 16:9 widescreen. 26" and above, they are mostly HD ready. The non-HD TVs are marked down - they're not selling.

Even my local supermarket is selling a no-brand 32" HD ready LCD.

Many of those waiting for the PS3, like me, will already have a TV to get the best out it when it arrives.

DVDs don't have to be HDDVD per se... but most DVD players have a componenet out (YRB) that looks much better than Svideo or RCA on HDTVs.

[d3m0nICE]

wow, I just noticed, but my monitor is an HDTV
OMG so is mine!

[zapod]

DVDs don't have to be HDDVD per se... but most DVD players have a componenet out (YRB) that looks much better than Svideo or RCA on HDTVs.

True, and there are some models of DVD player with HMDI ports that will 'upscale' the regular DVD image resolution to HD standards. It's not real HD of course, but a decent half measure if you have a large DVD library and a large HD screen.

[Eric Lewis]

I have a 360 and i hope my rents will get it for me for christmas or a macbook pro 17inch? or maybe both?

[Nickster]

A lot of you get really expensive gifts. I don't think I would ever get a 360 or a PS3 without having to do some work around the house or pay for half kind of thing. I did buy my 360 on my own though =).

[sahovaman]

VipFREAK, does your PC 'blend in' with the rest of your AV getup, or is it a charcoal* box with keyboard and mouse attached. Yes I know you can get PCs in HiFi component style cases, with LED displays and remotes and all that. Are they graphical powerhouses that can run FEAR as seamlessly as they run Windows Media Centre? I suspect the answer is no. I suspect if they did they'd be significantly more than $600.

*see, SEE? I didn't use the word beige! ;)

umm blend in... its not like you can't change cases or even hide/paint the case... having my equipment "blend in" is one of my lowest worries, if it is inexpensive and is high quality then yeah go for it, im not going to pay 50 dollars more for something that does the same thing as "model B" just because it blends in...

[sahovaman]

One that won't need upgrading over it's lifetime. One that won't hang, require a firewall, be at risk from viruses and malware, require security patches, memory upgrades, video card upgrades and other such fannying about.

I don't have time for that. I've been there before and am wearing the T-shirt. For the same reasons I still play the PS2, the PS3 is for me.

yeah you wont have to upgrade it because in a few years the ps4 will be out and then it will make your ps3 look like garbage... plus, with a computer you can do much more, i mean someone brought up the point that you can buy a computer for 350 ish and you can't play games on it, its just a word prosessor, a spreadsheet... well can the ps3 be a word prossessor or a spreadsheet program, can you create music, or the number 1 best seller book of the year on a PS3? you spend more money on an actual computer because it can do more than play games and watch dvd's and blu ray discs...

and also... who NEEDS 2 hd hookups anyways, i know i don't, what am i going to do with 2 hdtv's, (yeah i'd love to have 2 hdtv's) i can't hook them up to cable since i don't have cable im on satellite, and the "outdated" tv's in my house work just fine, sure i do like our 52" lcd but still, im not going out to buy an HDtv just because... i might if my trusty samsung 32" breaks but that things been around for about 6 years and it still works like brand new

and bonk... i agree 100% with him, sony didn't think about the teenage customers when pricing, and when we were talking about pricing before, someone said that sony is thinking about the older generation... so does that mean that every 40 year old man is going out to buy this thing? no, most of the consumers i would imagine would be under 23, i mean of course there are people over 23 that still play thats obvious but more kids get into video games than adults do

[xboxman]

Of course Sony didn't think about the average gamer with the PS3. If I remember correctly, Kutaguri (one of the dudes in charge of the PS3 operation) said that he wanted people to work harder at their jobs so they can save up for a PS3, it isnt a casual item...or some crap like that. Honestly, if you want a PS3 but hate the price then stop complaining and simply wait a while. This time next year all 3 companies will be trying to undercut each other in the market to get ahead, therefore some prices are going to be cut!

All this 1080p HD/ Bluray crap doesnt mean anything unless you have a "full" HDTV...and seeing how much they actually cost I doubt that this would become an industry standard anytime soon! Don't rush out and buy a HDTV to follow the crowd. In the UK it is pretty much pointless unless people want an expensive toy for their games consoles! SkyHD here doesnt even have a good selection of channels yet, what's the point in paying so much for a dozen HD channels!?

[wco81]

You can still get the benefits of Blu-Ray without a 1080p HDTV.

You can get regular HDTVs for under $1000.

[d3m0nICE]

yeah you wont have to upgrade it because in a few years the ps4 will be out and then it will make your ps3 look like garbage... plus, with a computer you can do much more, i mean someone brought up the point that you can buy a computer for 350 ish and you can't play games on it, its just a word prosessor, a spreadsheet... well can the ps3 be a word prossessor or a spreadsheet program, can you create music, or the number 1 best seller book of the year on a PS3? you spend more money on an actual computer because it can do more than play games and watch dvd's and blu ray discs...
I dont know about you, but I cant exactly hook up my computer to my 32" screen can I? From what i understand, the ps3 can. And it has a pimpnasty controller. I dont buy the ps3 for spreadsheets or music blah, thats what i have my $1500 macbook with os x for. That's a good investment, but cant play games for ####. If I want to play games, a gaming system is the way to go. Besides, this isnt a ps3 vs pc argument. So I dont see your point.

and also... who NEEDS 2 hd hookups anyways, i know i don't, what am i going to do with 2 hdtv's, (yeah i'd love to have 2 hdtv's)
Dont say 'what am i to do with them...' then proceed to say 'but id love to have them'. It just makes you sound like a fool.i can't hook them up to cable since i don't have cable im on satellite, and the "outdated" tv's in my house work just fine, sure i do like our 52" lcd but still, im not going out to buy an HDtv just becauseAgain, 'i cant use it but i'd love to have it' ... and you mean to tell me if someone gave you an HDTV you wouldnt go and change your service?

and bonk... i agree 100% with him, sony didn't think about the teenage customers when pricing, and when we were talking about pricing before, someone said that sony is thinking about the older generation... so does that mean that every 40 year old man is going out to buy this thing? no, most of the consumers i would imagine would be under 23, i mean of course there are people over 23 that still play thats obvious but more kids get into video games than adults doReally, sony didnt think about teenage customers did they? So I assume there will be no games rated 't for teen' for the ps3? That's dissapointing.

[zapod]

d3m0nICE said pretty much what I was going to say. However, the thread was originally about cost. The PS3 being way to expensive for yer average punter and all that. My argument was, and still is, that the PS3 is more appropriate for the living room than a PC. A PC case is a PC case whatever colour it is.

Yes, yes, yes, I am aware of small form factor PCs, but they are neither cheap or particularly strong on graphics. The PS3, on the other hand, will sit neatly on top of my TiVo and play the latest releases in HD.

[sahovaman]

I dont know about you, but I cant exactly hook up my computer to my 32" screen can I? From what i understand, the ps3 can. And it has a pimpnasty controller. I dont buy the ps3 for spreadsheets or music blah, thats what i have my $1500 macbook with os x for. That's a good investment, but cant play games for ####. If I want to play games, a gaming system is the way to go. Besides, this isnt a ps3 vs pc argument. So I dont see your point.


Dont say 'what am i to do with them...' then proceed to say 'but id love to have them'. It just makes you sound like a fool.Again, 'i cant use it but i'd love to have it' ... and you mean to tell me if someone gave you an HDTV you wouldnt go and change your service?

Really, sony didnt think about teenage customers did they? So I assume there will be no games rated 't for teen' for the ps3? That's dissapointing.

alright... i forgot to mention that my video card had an S-video output so i could hook it up to my tv screen and i used to use that to play my games with my wireless keyboard & mouse...

I didn't start the pc vs. ps3 if you look back, i am just putting out my opinion on the matter, my point was that for a little more money, you can get a computer that can do so much more, like i was saying before, can you create and edit music on the ps3, or write the number 1 best seller book of the year on a ps3...

Yes i don't NEED 2 HDTV's but i would love to have 2 of them, i would have no real use for 2 HD TV's for my one game system, its cool that they offer it but i dont NEED it. i don't know if you noticed, but theres a differance between NEED and WANT, i WANT a 1958 plymouth fury, a 68' shelby cobra, a 65' GTO, and a mercury "Lead Sled" but i don't NEED them. i WANT a soda vending machine for my room but i don't NEED one. so i guess i sound stupid when i say "what would i do with all these cool cars" but i would still love to have them...?

and no i wouldn't change my service because there aren't that many HD channels with DirecTV so i wouldn't bother. Also, i think thats pretty stupid thing to say that there aren't going to be any teen rated games... first... duh.. i am not that stupid to think that there won't be any teen rated games... another thing its just a rating, that they have to put up to show parents what the game contains and to decide if they should be exposing their children to a game that may contain violence and gore when their parents don't want them to see it. teen is like pg13..., but common, i really hope you don't think that im THAT stupid, they didn't think about the teens with PRICING, i know its a lot of expensive equipment inside these things but most teens cant just pull $600.00 out of their a@@ or should i say at least $700.00 plus tax with 2 games if they are priced at $50.00 a piece.

well put it this way...
i live in Michigan, the state with the highest unemployment rate, unless you want to work fast food, or you are a nurse or a trucker, there is almost NOTHING to do legally. where i am. every day i open the paper and look for jobs and they are for a RN at old folks homes, there are house sitters, and there are trucking jobs and you obviously need a CDL for that which means going to trucking school. and then if you want to be able to drive basically any truck you need a CLASS A HAZMAT LICENCE with a DOUBLES endorsement (if you want to be able to drive any truck/take any job thrown at you), i just got a job at a new kohls comming up in a town about 12 miles away from me. they were going to hire 200 people for the store and over a THOUSAND people put in their application there, that includes people of all ages from 16 to 60, and at least 3/4 of those people needed a job to support their familys, to put food on the table and to keep a roof over their heads. i got lucky getting a job to help my parents financially and obviously to start earning money for my lifetime. and there were people at my group interview that lived at least 25 miles or more away from the store. and these people are going for cashier and janitor jobs, you start out making around $7.50 an hour so its not like its the best job in the world to have.

anyway my point is that at least around here people can't afford a luxuary like the ps3 priced at $600.00, the most expensive thing that most people have up here is their car/truck, and i along with others think that its a rediculous price for a game system.

[d3m0nICE]

blah blah blah .. that post is way too long buddy. If your guna make an argument, get to the point quickly. I surrender you win

[mrdantownsend]

blah blah blah .. that post is way too long buddy. If your guna make an argument, get to the point quickly. I surrender you win

just read the first sentance of each paragraph, and you'll get the idea :D ;)

[Derek McNelly]

*Buys SNES and some games for $50*

Sorry. I just can't buy into the new system hype.

I mean, this generation is far too expensive, regardless of the tech specs.