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RmboCheech

02-27-2006, 05:17 PM

Kiedis announced the first single to be a track titled Dani California (where "Dani" is the same character from their last debut single, 'By the Way' and was the unnamed "teenage bride with a baby inside" in the modern rock song "Californication". "Dani", according to Kiedis, is a representation of every girl that he's come across in his life).

Kiedis later spoke to MTV News about the album, saying that it has "######edly painful funk" and some songs that are just "straightout dirty funk". He also alluded to the fact that the Peppers' more melodical sounds as heard on Californication (1999) and By The Way (2002) will be present as well on the album.

As for the 13 tracks left off of the original 38 track trilogy, Kiedis has noted that there are plans to release them as bonus tracks on albums distributed to the numerous store chains.

sorry should have researched earlier, but for anyone who cares heres some info i found, its not going to be a live album, and i think it will be a good clash of the different styles of the chilis music all on one album

Kristiano

02-27-2006, 08:22 PM

It's not a live album.

I can't wait :)

ishDog

02-27-2006, 08:29 PM

I hate hearing recorded live albums/songs..It takes the quality away, and it doesn't have that same..vibrant feel.

iMacc

02-27-2006, 09:48 PM

Can't wait for this album. No it's not a live album. I've got tickets to see them play Earl's Court this summer.

Kristiano

02-27-2006, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by iMacc
Can't wait for this album. No it's not a live album. I've got tickets to see them play Earl's Court this summer.

Damn Macca buys tickets to everything. ;)

Hope you have fun :)

darling_nikki

02-28-2006, 08:21 AM

Its a double album, they wanted to release it as three albums over a long time, but when they realised they ahd to eb 6 months apart, they decided to just make a double album

iMacc

02-28-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Kristiano
Damn Macca buys tickets to everything. ;)

Hope you have fun :)

I do my best Kris.

I just don't enjoy many things as much as watching a live gig.....:D

mrdantownsend

02-28-2006, 01:42 PM

I think I will have to wet myself out of pure exitement when the album comes out :D

rachwah

02-28-2006, 11:24 PM

woah. that will be totally awesome!

papayaninja

03-01-2006, 02:32 PM

I can't wait. I'm angry about the tracks specific to certain stores though. I read that as "Extra tracks that fans everywhere will download illegally."

iMacc

03-01-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by papayaninja
I'm angry about the tracks specific to certain stores though. I read that as "Extra tracks that fans everywhere will download illegally."

Hmmm......Tell me more...

papayaninja

03-02-2006, 02:19 PM

I really don't understand that post, iMacc...

I'm not saying I will download them of course, I'm just saying... Other people will download them. I'll just listen to them online or with Rhapsody and decide which CD is best of the ones they release.

mrdantownsend

03-02-2006, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by papayaninja
I'm angry about the tracks specific to certain stores though.

I haven't ever heard anything like that, especially from a cool band like RHCP. I would expect that from Dido or Sara Mclaughlin or someone like that. Not from a funk rock band like them!

:mad:

iMacc

03-02-2006, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by papayaninja
I really don't understand that post, iMacc...

I'm not saying I will download them of course, I'm just saying... Other people will download them. I'll just listen to them online or with Rhapsody and decide which CD is best of the ones they release.

I meant that i hadn't heard about this before your post and was wondering if you had any more info...

papayaninja

03-03-2006, 12:14 PM

Got you. Um, I got it from MTV News online...

"The 13 tracks that didn't make it onto the final product might wind up surfacing commercially, after all, because "I'd be crushed if they didn't get heard," Kiedis said. But it won't be cheap for the truest of the band's fans to get them all. The singer said the idea is to release different versions of the album through different retail outlets, each with a unique bonus track. So fans who download Stadium Arcadium using iTunes would get one bonus track — say 'Especially in Michigan' — while those who picked up their copy at Target would get a different bonus song — like 'Mercy, Mercy.' "

Yeah, so I think that is really annoying for anybody without 40 bucks to blow on essentially the same CD...

iMacc

03-03-2006, 01:44 PM

Cheers for that.

mrdantownsend

03-03-2006, 03:45 PM

thats what limewire's for.

iLive4this

03-05-2006, 04:45 PM

Link to their first single "Dani California"...and it sounds promising!

http://vzw.ztango.com/sound/vttone/DaniCali0303.mp3

papayaninja

03-05-2006, 05:45 PM

That sounds pretty good. I wish I could hear the whole thing... I guess I'll wait a little longer.

iLive4this

03-31-2006, 11:56 PM

For all you chili pepper fans, the music video for Dani California has just been put onto YouTube. It's an awesome video for the single, and it is pretty funny with their costumes and stuff...who needs to wait for MTV to show it this Tuesday, enjoy it right now!

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYuNqc0T_g

By the way, this is NOT an April Fool's joke

papayaninja

04-01-2006, 04:19 PM

From http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/news/news.php?uid=155

"03.27.06 Stadium Arcadium
LOS ANGELES, March 27, 2006 -- The Red Hot Chili Peppers will unleash a two-CD set, Stadium Arcadium (Warner Bros.), on May 9, 2006. The collection will contain 28 songs divided between two discs, one dubbed Jupiter and the other Mars.

The lead single, "Dani California," will debut worldwide on April 3. It will be supported by a video directed by Tony Kaye ("American History X") portraying a history of rock 'n' roll. The video will debut in the U.S. on MTV April 4 at 11:00 p.m.; in the U.K. on Channel 4 April 5 at 11:00 p.m.; and throughout the rest of the world on April 6.

Stadium Arcadium's Jupiter CD track listing comprises: "Dani California," "Snow (Hey Oh)," "Charlie," "Stadium Arcadium," "Hump de Bump," "She's Only 18," "Slow Cheetah," "Torture Me," "Strip My Mind," "Especially in Michigan," "Warlocks," "C'mon Girl," "Wet Sand" and "Hey."

Stadium Arcadium's Mars CD track listing comprises: "Desecration Smile," "Tell Me Baby," "Hard to Concentrate," "21st Century," "She Looks to Me," "Readymade," "If," "Make You Feel Better," "Animal Bar," "So Much I," "Storm in a Teacup," "We Believe," "Turn It Again" and "Death of a Martian."

Stadium Arcadium will also be available in a limited-edition black box that includes the 28-song, two-CD set, plus a DVD with the "Dani California" video and behind-the-scenes "making of the video" footage; a one-hour band interview; a 28-page booklet; original artwork by the band; and "special space-age discoveries." "

Sounds good to me. No mention of multiple retailers either.

In addition here are six of the songs live:

http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/21st%20Century.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Dani%20California.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Desecration%20Smile.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Ready%20Made.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Tell%20Me%20Baby.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Wet%20Sand.mp3

The quality is really bad on some, to say the least. Ready Made and Desecration aren't bad, Wet Sand and Tell Me Baby are pretty poor though. 21st Century isn't bad either. Cool song! Sadly Dani California is pretty bad quailty too. Recording that is. Like the song though. Good stuff so far.

Kristiano

04-02-2006, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by papayaninja
From http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/news/news.php?uid=155

"03.27.06 Stadium Arcadium
LOS ANGELES, March 27, 2006 -- The Red Hot Chili Peppers will unleash a two-CD set, Stadium Arcadium (Warner Bros.), on May 9, 2006. The collection will contain 28 songs divided between two discs, one dubbed Jupiter and the other Mars.

The lead single, "Dani California," will debut worldwide on April 3. It will be supported by a video directed by Tony Kaye ("American History X") portraying a history of rock 'n' roll. The video will debut in the U.S. on MTV April 4 at 11:00 p.m.; in the U.K. on Channel 4 April 5 at 11:00 p.m.; and throughout the rest of the world on April 6.

Stadium Arcadium's Jupiter CD track listing comprises: "Dani California," "Snow (Hey Oh)," "Charlie," "Stadium Arcadium," "Hump de Bump," "She's Only 18," "Slow Cheetah," "Torture Me," "Strip My Mind," "Especially in Michigan," "Warlocks," "C'mon Girl," "Wet Sand" and "Hey."

Stadium Arcadium's Mars CD track listing comprises: "Desecration Smile," "Tell Me Baby," "Hard to Concentrate," "21st Century," "She Looks to Me," "Readymade," "If," "Make You Feel Better," "Animal Bar," "So Much I," "Storm in a Teacup," "We Believe," "Turn It Again" and "Death of a Martian."

Stadium Arcadium will also be available in a limited-edition black box that includes the 28-song, two-CD set, plus a DVD with the "Dani California" video and behind-the-scenes "making of the video" footage; a one-hour band interview; a 28-page booklet; original artwork by the band; and "special space-age discoveries." "

Sounds good to me. No mention of multiple retailers either.

In addition here are six of the songs live:

http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/21st%20Century.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Dani%20California.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Desecration%20Smile.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Ready%20Made.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Tell%20Me%20Baby.mp3
http://essenceofcomedy.com/rhcp/StadiumArcadium/Wet%20Sand.mp3

The quality is really bad on some, to say the least. Ready Made and Desecration aren't bad, Wet Sand and Tell Me Baby are pretty poor though. 21st Century isn't bad either. Cool song! Sadly Dani California is pretty bad quailty too. Recording that is. Like the song though. Good stuff so far.

I CANNOT WAIT!!!

This has to be my most anticipated album of the year after Whatever People Say I Am...

papayaninja

04-04-2006, 05:48 PM

I know! Plus, I want to hear "Snow (Hey Oh)" and "Warlocks" just because of their names. I wonder if one CD will be more funk or if they'll be mixed? Also I wonder if the video on their website where they talk about Dani California is part of the DVD Interview.

Sadly I know at least one of those tracks will be like Dosed or Porcelain. I despise those songs. They put me to sleep and ruin otherwise perfect albums. Personal opinion of course, but hey.

iMacc

04-05-2006, 03:08 PM

Loving the new single 'Dani California'. If the rest of the album lives up to it, then i will be happy.

What do others think ?

NiTRO

04-05-2006, 03:42 PM

I will keep an open mind but honestly, I have felt that the Peppers lost their edge a few albums ago. If they get it back, more power to them. I hope the new album rocks a la Mother's Milk and BSSM!

jmyler

04-05-2006, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by NiTRO
I will keep an open mind but honestly, I have felt that the Peppers lost their edge a few albums ago. If they get it back, more power to them. I hope the new album rocks a la Mother's Milk and BSSM!

wow i thought i was the only person that thought this way. i love the old stuff but the past couple albums are just cut and dry. californication has to be one of the worst albums i've ever heard. and the new song seems like it would fit right in there on californication.

BillClinton

04-05-2006, 08:15 PM

I agree that a number of the more recent albums have a lot less of an edge to them: Mother's Milk and BSSM are their best works; on the other hand, I don't think that Californication is one of the worst albums I've ever heard - there are a number of kick a** songs, but it is more polished. Let's face it, bands age as does their music.

jmyler

04-06-2006, 01:16 AM

you are right about the aging thing. but some get better with time and some don't. i havn't given up hope on the chilli peppers just because i was such a big fan but i can't help but to hate californication. i am really pulling for them on this new album.

Kristiano

04-06-2006, 09:10 AM

What's there to hate about Californication? They adopted a new sound which is essentially what many a good band does.

That alone was the album that got me into a lot of RHCP stuff, from Blood Sugar Sex Magik to By The Way?

NiTRO

04-06-2006, 03:51 PM

The way I see it is this: The old skool Peppers had that punky-funky unpredictable edge to them and they lived that lifestyle. That energy drove their music and permiated from every fiber of their being. Really, since the Peppers released Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik, and frequently with other bands, after they have achieved thier first true hit record, things change, priorities shift, and things come to them more easily as financial success becomes a reality. They have evolved and are now much more of a pop band taking far fewer risks and playing much more to the commercial radio friendly market. BSSM was such a hit not only because it was a brilliantly crafted album but also because the Peppers were just doing what they'd always done and the market really came to them.

Today, my ears hear a band that still writes good pop rock songs with flavors of their past but are a far cry from what they used to be. I understand that with success and age comes maturity but that's not necessarilly what I want out of most rock bands. Another case-in-point? STING. Nuff said.

For those that jumped on board with Californication, that's great but they have a different starting reference point than I do. The first Chili Peppers record was truly on my radar was Freaky Styley (1985) which was produced by George Clinton and featured original guitarist, Hillel Slovak. Newer fans should really check this album out along with Uplift Mofo Party Plan if for no other reason than to listen to a great band's true roots. That aside, these are two phenominal albums!

papayaninja

04-07-2006, 12:06 PM

You're right, those are phenomonal albums, but so are Californication and By The Way. They are equally great, just in different ways. If the Chili Peppers' sound never changed, they would be boring and repetitive (I know, I know. I just described Coldplay... ;) ) But really, yeah it would be fine for two or four albums but then there would be no "What comes next?" feel. You'd know what comes next, and you know it would sound like the last song, or the last album. For a good band, this is a good think at first glance, but really no. It's selling out in its own way. The band knows if they sound like that people will buy they're records. When they constantly change they don't know if people will buy them, only that they'll have fun making them.

mdwsta4

04-07-2006, 12:34 PM

i don't know if this is mentioned nationally or not, but Q101 (rock station in chicago) has been playing new chili peppers singles (more than one) all week. they're working together with apple and keep stating if you pre-order the whole album on itunes, you're able to download 'dani california' right away. also if you pre-order, once it's released you get a video from the band, the making of the 'dani california' video, some artwork, and other stuff. people can enter to win the RHCP entire collection and an engraved autographed ipod (like U2's old one) as well.

this is from their website: 'Starting Friday (4/7) at 5pm it's a Red Hot Chili Peppers My Shuffle Weekend.
Listen all weekend for your chance to win a custom designed RHCP iPod & a $10 iTunes gift card to download their new single from iTunes.
All winners are qualified for the grand prize: a custom designed RHCP iPod & an iTunes gift card to download the entire RHCP library!
For a chance to win you need to submit a five-song My Shuffle playlist RIGHT HERE. Your My Shuffle must include at least one RHCP song. If we play your My Shuffle playlist, you win!
[i]From iPod and iTunes bringing you the best in digital music. Pre-order the new Red Hot Chili Peppers

thundergroove

04-07-2006, 12:45 PM

i had read they were going to go back to what made them great. I hope they return to the edgy, crazy, funk style (or something)

Skinny Sweaty Man Living in a Green Suit, WOW

NiTRO

04-07-2006, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by papayaninja
If the Chili Peppers' sound never changed, they would be boring and repetitive..

Don't get me wrong, I love change, evolution and revolution in bands and music in general, I just don't like the change in the Chili Peppers from radical toward the safe, which is what I feel has happened. Coldplay started out safe, love 'em or hate 'em that's who they have been and still are today. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe Chris Martin will take the stage in a cod piece covering Judas Priest songs...not that I really wanna see that but you get my point.

As for the Chili Peppers, this next release could be revitalizing and amazing but in my opinion, if they continue in the direction they've been heading for the past handful of albums, I'm not interested.

iLive4this

04-30-2006, 02:26 PM

That's right! Stadium Arcadium has finally leaked.:cool: My favorite track so far is Snow (Hey Oh).

Although, there are many other cool songs like Stadium Arcadium and Torture Me which has awesome trumpets courtesy of Flea. I will not listen to the whole album just yet, instead saving the surprise for the official release date, May 9th.

Post your thoughts on the new album....

Code Monkey

04-30-2006, 05:27 PM

i had read they were going to go back to what made them great.
That's what Metallica said about St. Anger, which turned out to be their worst album ever.

Here's hoping the Peppers actually deliver :)

papayaninja

05-02-2006, 03:16 PM

Don't get me wrong, I love change, evolution and revolution in bands and music in general, I just don't like the change in the Chili Peppers from radical toward the safe, which is what I feel has happened. Coldplay started out safe, love 'em or hate 'em that's who they have been and still are today. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe Chris Martin will take the stage in a cod piece covering Judas Priest songs...not that I really wanna see that but you get my point.

As for the Chili Peppers, this next release could be revitalizing and amazing but in my opinion, if they continue in the direction they've been heading for the past handful of albums, I'm not interested.

RHCP are great whether it's safe or funky, I couldn't care less. Some of their best songs are safe, even if most of their best aren't. I got into the Chili Peppers through By The Way so maybe that has something to do with it...

PS: Coldplay would be better if they played Judas Priest ;)

Jackonicko

05-02-2006, 04:49 PM

Recorded the live concert they did outside the BBC TV centre two weeks ago (broadcast after this week's Top of the Pops) and transferred the audio to CD and to iPod.

Only 31 minutes, but top notch performances, I thought.

Danni California
Scar Tissue
Tell me baby
Snow ey oh
Under the bridge
Give it away

Better than Jonathan Ross, anyway, which I also recorded and then mislaid the VT.

darling_nikki

05-03-2006, 05:15 AM

I have the leak, and am about to pre-order the original from play.com (btw does anyone know what a digipack is?) adn I have to say I'm quite impressed. It's not as funky as Blood Sugar Sex Magik but I definetely think they've suceeded in combining the various sounds they've had to make two awesome cd's.

kornchild2002

05-03-2006, 08:39 AM

Well, I too hope they do something new/old sounding with this album. I thought Californication was just too commercial in that too many songs sounded like they were made to be radio friendly singles. I missed the old peppers when they didn't care if their music was on the radio or not, they would use their own sound and they pleased.

Hopefully they will go back to their roots while adding a new twist with their new album. I have yet to hear it and probably won't get it until a few weeks after its release (will be on vacation).

FYI - a digipack means that the album will either come with a bonus CD/DVD that has digital content on it (ie bonus computer files, extra videos, extra songs, etc.) or one of the main CD's will have extra digital content. Who knowns, you may get 3 CD's; 2 for the album and a 3rd for the digital content. From past artists, I have found that digipacks are hit and miss. Sometimes the extra content really isn't worth the extra price. Other times (as with Korn's new album), the extra price is definately worth it.

darling_nikki

05-04-2006, 03:20 AM

FYI - a digipack means that the album will either come with a bonus CD/DVD that has digital content on it (ie bonus computer files, extra videos, extra songs, etc.) or one of the main CD's will have extra digital content. Who knowns, you may get 3 CD's; 2 for the album and a 3rd for the digital content. From past artists, I have found that digipacks are hit and miss. Sometimes the extra content really isn't worth the extra price. Other times (as with Korn's new album), the extra price is definately worth it.
Thanks, it's the same price for the digipack than for the regular version on play.com so I'll probably get the digipack

neb

05-04-2006, 07:10 AM

Probably the most uninspiring album cover I've ever seen!

Kristiano

05-04-2006, 06:24 PM

Probably the most uninspiring album cover I've ever seen!

Yeah. Nothing compared to BSSM or Californication.

MetalManCPA

05-05-2006, 02:17 PM

There are very few bands in the world that I can say this about: I truly hate the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Their sound 100% turns me off. Just one mans opinion. So obviously, I have no feelings of anticipation of their new (or old) albums.

mrdantownsend

05-06-2006, 03:46 PM

3 more days...

papayaninja

05-08-2006, 10:20 AM

One more day... The Chili Peppers released an ope letter about the leaking of Stadium Arcadium. They're pretty mad...

neb

05-08-2006, 12:48 PM

I thought it was out today?

iMacc

05-08-2006, 02:07 PM

One more day... The Chili Peppers released an ope letter about the leaking of Stadium Arcadium. They're pretty mad...

Well they've made their money out of me definately. My ticket was nearly

tli2k

05-08-2006, 05:32 PM

isnt it already out?
i heard my freinds copy the other day

Kristiano

05-08-2006, 07:01 PM

I believe it came out in Europe on the 5th or 6th.

Either that, or its a leak.

papayaninja

05-09-2006, 01:53 PM

It came out today. My dad is getting on his way home. I can't wait. Not downloading it feels good though. I had the power to resist. Oh well.

edit: If it's sold out though, I'm torrenting it faster than you can say "arcadium".

RmboCheech

05-10-2006, 10:03 PM

I dont care what anyone says. This album is a huge step for RHCP, and is great. I am not a fan just of Californiacation or By The Way, i like all the RHCP albums form the start. Some people were saying they should go back to there old stuff. This CD is a completely new sound that is great. Really great guitar and bass work as usual. I love it, people that were saying they werent going to by out you are missing out on the best album this year.

Jackonicko

05-11-2006, 08:54 AM

With more rigorous quality control (half the number of songs) this could have been a great album, or at least a good one. As it is, it's technically polished and very well played, but also extremely patchy, and it lacks killer tunes.

Album of the year?

Not even so far. Not even the best album of May 2006, I'm afraid.

iMacc

05-11-2006, 01:07 PM

Got to agree with Jacko here. I wanted, i sooo wanted to love this album. I was hoping to hail it 'album of the year' and 'a fantastic new sound & direction from RHCP', but if i did i would be lying.

In short, i think the album sounds like a 'B-sides and rare tracks' compilation gathered together from the remnants of their last album. Way too much filler is included and to be honest, i would struggle to name more than five stand-out tracks.

They don't sound as funky, or as hard as they they always have either. I can't exactly put my finger on it, but it is lacking something vital. Too many tracks and an opportunity wasted imo. Bland.

5/10 from me. Maybe 5.5 at a push.....

Jackonicko

05-11-2006, 05:14 PM

I was so looking forward to the Monday just gone. The Raconteurs and Dirty Pretty Things exceeded my expectations, and RHCP failed dismally to reach the standard I'd hoped for.

papayaninja

05-11-2006, 05:20 PM

I disagree. I like it a lot. There aren't stunning tracks but there aren't many (if any) BAD ones either. I give it 8/10. The problem is that it doesn't have a set sound, it's sort of in between old funky RHCP and new, "mature" RHCP and not just one. Also, some of the tracks sound really familiar, just because. But it's still a good listen.

iMacc

05-11-2006, 05:31 PM

I was so looking forward to the Monday just gone. The Raconteurs and Dirty Pretty Things exceeded my expectations, and RHCP failed dismally to reach the standard I'd hoped for.

Interesting. I found the Raconteurs effort another disapointment initially. I'm not going to condemn it yet though, as i think it'll be a grower for me. Dirty Pretty Things was as i expected. A excellent return to form for THE Libertine. Hopefully Barat can now eradicate any doubt that it was Pete's band and maybe finally rid us of Doherty and his shambles....

Jackonicko

05-11-2006, 05:51 PM

I think Barat was always the main talent in the Libs (though Pete had a nice touch with vulnerable backing vox on the eponymous second album, and played well in places).

I was, however, surprised how good Down in Albion was - amazingly good work from a mediocre washed up second-rate junkie.

It makes me wonder whether the Libs weren't one of those bands who were bigger and better than the sum of its parts, and whether solo efforts will ever match the standard of that second album in particular.

And I'm seriously worried what Cooper Temple Clause will do without their bassist.

iMacc

05-11-2006, 06:03 PM

Down In Albion certainly had it's moments. If it didn't contain so many tracks it would have faired infinately better with the critics too.

Now that you mention it, i haven't listened to the LP for quite a while.

Kristiano

05-12-2006, 01:22 AM

I'm disappointed.

I liked Dani California and Hump De Bump but the rest was...absymal.

mistershow1

05-17-2006, 01:36 PM

I think it's a lot of filler, but I still enjoy listening to it.

Lakersgo

05-19-2006, 01:03 AM

I don't care what % is filler, becuase honestly, there are 4-5 absolutely classic RHCP songs that just came out. If you like pop, this is some funky pop, and really good imo. I've been listening to the first disc, I loved the first 4 songs and Slow Cheetah, I have barely even touched the second CD, I could hope there is atleast 1 more good song on there. The more I listen to it the more I like it. I don't typically like the real mainstream stuff, the stuff they play on MTV (well now they dont play music til 4 AM) and all over the radio really except for Green Day and the other band would be RHCP, so i do expect something from them, they are one of the few quality bands i think most indie fans and casual listeners can agree on.

I think it is ALMOST ALL expectations. I haven't been following music recently and I didn't even know until right before it came out that they had a new album and even then I didn't have much expectations. If you were thinking this was going to be the best album of the year hands down.

Maybe its value, if they edited it down to one CD, it would be pure gold, just because they diluted it is it bad? I would gladly pay 5$ for some b-sides because i love RHCP, i think the 2 discs just raised the expectations even higher.