Where to Buy Panasonic RP-HJE70. (UK)

[S.S.Tez]

Anyone?

also i've read some reviews but are they good?

[iMonster]

lol...

Where O-where is jack?!

http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146460&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144955&highlight=HJE70
http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143659

lots of talk in these threads^

jack knows where to get them cheapest in the UK ^_^ it might be listed in one of those threads.. I think the last? he tells you the store to go to where he got them cheaper than normal, hehe.

Mine are on their way.. I wish I could tell you about 'em myself.

[truckson]

iGearbox.com have the RP-HJE70 for £50 and they will delivery to UK. Items are easy to find on the website. It arrived in excellent condition. I would definitly recommend this merchant!

[iMonster]

http://www.digitallyunique.com

I ordered from here ^ I'm not sure if they ship to the UK though. They're being sent out later today ^_^;;

I really cannot wait to get my headphones!

[jefmcg]

might be hard to get ATM

http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/invt/rphje70

[Jackonicko]

iMonster,

It was actually in this thread:

http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146460&highlight=astleys

SSTez,

Where to get them:

"In the UK, my cheapest option was to go to my local Panasonic dealer and get them to order them. I explained that I wanted to support a local store rather than an internet dealer, but didn't want to pay more than I would do online. I asked what was the lowest price they could do, and got a cheaper price than Panasonic UK charge on their site. (£52 rather than £61, a £9 or $16 saving). I got them in five days. The cheapest price I found online from a UK-based dealer was £56). For UK podders, Wadleys in Bicester (speak to David on 01869 252117) will obtain HJE70s for £52, as will Astleys in Wallingford (01491 839305), where I bought mine."

Both are great, old fashioned hi fi shops (Astleys sell CDs too) that are well worth supporting.

[Jackonicko]

Are they any good? Well I think so, as I keep saying, until its boring even me!

I bought a Gen 1 iPod the day they came out, and ever since then, I've been searching for the perfect budget priced earphone.

I don't want to spend hundreds of pounds on an earphone (there are other things I'd spend that amount of money on) and I certainly don't want to gamble that sort of money.

And let's face it, any earbud purchase is a gamble - try-before-buy is virtually impossible, and personal recommendations are unreliable - many people rave about earphones that I have found to be dreadful in real life!

I bought a pair of Shure E-2Cs but they are so uncomfortable that I've used them less than a dozen times. Which makes them an expensive waste of money.

I was therefore loathe to gamble £70 or so on Etymotic ER-6is, £85 on Shure E3s or £150 on Shure E4s or £300 on E5s.

I have bought the EX51/70/71 (five sets), JVC HA FX55, Panasonic HJE70, Shure E2C and Sony 888, and others, and have been given ER6i, HJE50 and She9500 (today!) for review or as ex-review samples by friends working for a 'well known UK hi fi magazine'. I have listened to Shure E4s, Ultimate Ears SuperFi 5s and Sennheiser CX300s and am waiting for a pair of each to arrive for review.

I have tried Koss plugs (terrible, woefully poor sound quality), Turbosounds (almost as bad), Sony EX51s, EX70s, and EX71s, Phillips HE592 (VERY uncomfortable and mediocre sound - perhaps marginally better than EX51/70/71), Apple in-ears (good sound, won't stay in my ears), Sony MDRJ20 (don't fit me at all), Sony E888s (no longer in production, don't fit my ears comfortably, but better sound than anything I've tried), Sennheiser S400s (no real improvement over the standard Apple earbud) and Shure E2s (sound great but very uncomfortable after a relatively short time).

You don't need to know much to know how poor the Sonys are, or how uncomfortable the Shure E2s are, you just need to have tried them alongside competitors. The difference is really that stark. Why do I post my opinion? Simply that for many young iPodders these represent a big investment, and I hate to see people waste their money and end up angry, frustrated or disappointed.

But I have kept going back to the blasted EX71.......

Until now. I can now confidently recommend a couple of earphones that are significantly better than the EX51/70/71 family sound-wise and which match them for comfort. The best of these is the HJE70



”The HJE70s are GRRRRRREAT!

Even the packaging is good - cool, sophisticated, and designed to enhance one's expectations as you unwrap it, just like the original iPod 'cube' box. I should make particular mention of the brushed titanium carry case, embossed with the HJE70 logo, with a small net for stowing the cable and shaped black foam inserts to hold the ear pieces and the jack plug (which has a metal collar)

The aluminium, steel and soft silicon earbuds are hinged slightly to allow 'flex' and are carried on standard wires. Overall, they are of broadly conventional design - with an uneven Y cord - shorter to the left ear than to the right, with a straight (aluminium collared) jack plug and with a cord extension cable terminating in an L plug. Three sets of (different sized) silicon earpieces are included.

The earbud apertures themselves are covered by a superfine mesh (where cheaper units would have a piece of waxed paper or plastic with a single pinhole). They are beautifully engineered, and can be fitted together (back to back using tiny rubber grippers) for storage.

They sound great, with a decent bass response revealing subtleties that other in-ears (Sony, Shure E2, JVC) miss.

They are at least as comfortable as Sony's EX51/70/71 series. They stay in the ear just as well.

And though the online price is £60.99, my local dealer got mine for less than that.

They are made of metal, not cheapo plastic.

I'm pleased with these. VERY pleased. They feel like a Rolls Royce beside a cheap Ford (Shure E2, Panasonic, etc) or a Skoda (Sony EX71).”



” What I do know is that I have yet to find a negative review of the HJE70, whereas I've found plenty of negative reviews of Shure E2s, E3Cs, Etymotic ER6s and ER6is, and other rivals.

I don't work for Panasonic, and I don't claim to be some kind of high end audiophile who spends $2,500 on a pair of headphones. But if you wanted advice on a good cheap sub-compact family car, you wouldn't expect a Rolls and Ferrai owner to be able to provide it!

I am fussy about sound, however, and I wasn't happy with the muddy crude sound of the EX51/70/71. I've bought a dozen pairs of earphones in my search for a good solution, and I've begged and borrowed loads more. As a journo (not working in the music field, but with colleagues who do) I have been able to access a number of earbuds that I wouldn't have bought. This weekend I have a pair of ER6is sitting on the desk, courtesy of a chum who edits a UK hi fi magazine....

I regard £52 ($92) as quite a lot to spend on a pair of in ear headphones, and I wouldn't recommend the HJE70s if I wasn't very, very impressed by them, in a way that I wasn't impressed by Shure's E2C or the ER6i.”



”……the Panasonic HJE70 (another phone that I actually own, so one that I feel qualified to comment on) is a superb piece of kit, with much nicer sound than the ER6i or the Shure E2C, and very much more comfortable.

Now it may not stack up well beside a $200 earphone, but it does stand head and shoulders above other 'cheap' (to you!) earphones. Moreover, many iPod users like design, and appreciate quality engineering, and these are beautifully designed and a tactile joy. I think that my virtual buddies in iPod land will like these babies, which need some exposure, since most people go the safe way and get what's easy, what's common, or what lots of other people already have. And that's often the dreadful EX71.

I bought the Shure E2 with great optimism and was hugely disappointed by the severe discomfort, and was left feeling "Is that it?" about the sound. The ER6is I've been trying this weekend left me thinking "Thank goodness I didn't buy these." Perhaps I'd been spoiled by the Sony MDR E888s, which I found lovely, but which unfortunately don't fit my ears.

I didn't expect great things from the Panasonic HJE70, but I thought that they were worth a punt. And they blew me away. Moreover, all of the reviews I've read reveal an interesting thing. Other users are virtually universally satisfied too. Now what does that tell us?

I'd been looking for a $50-$60 earphone that would be as comfortable as the EX71, but with better sound, and wanted four of whatever that was, in order to leave one set in each laptop bag, overnight bag, etc. so that I'd always have a spare. I wanted a more expensive, better set, as 'primaries' and I hoped to spend less than about $180 on those, but was relaxed about spending $200. It's not that I can't afford more, per se, but I do have better things to spend money on, and I'm not going to go spending hundreds 'on spec', and I would feel slightly ashamed spending $300 on earphones when people in the world are starving.....

The Panasonic HJE70 is good enough to fulfill the 'primary' requirement, for me, and I may stop looking for 'spares' and just buy three more. On the other hand, if I get given other cheap headphones (someone has very kindly promised me a set of the new Philips buds) then I may continue the search, in the hope that my experience may be of some help to my fellow iPodders, many of whom (as I believe I said) are looking hard for good kit at this kind of price point, where UE10s and Qualias are irrelevant, and where spending thousands of dollars might seem extravagant or even obscene.”

[Jackonicko]

”You can find numerous negative reviews of the E2C and the ER6i, all over the net. I've yet to find a negative review of the HJE70, though to be fair, it's clearly still not widely used.

I have listened to all three phones back to back over the past two weeks (the past weekend for the ER6is). That wouldn't be long enough to judge the ER6i had it's inadequacy (very very flat response) not been quite so obvious. I can see that the sound quality is better on the ER6i than on the Sony EX71, but in the real world, I'd prefer the EX71, which I find marginally less annoying (perhaps I'm more of a basshead than I thought, if a fussy one?) and more comfortable. Certainly listening to the HJE70s after the best part of two solid hours with the Ety, I was blown away.

I like isolation, of course, but another factor with the soft sleeve type phones is that they do leave a faint chance that you'll hear the runaway juggernaut before it runs you over. I don't like TOTAL isolation of the sort you can achieve with Shures and Etys.

The closest, in my view, sound-wise, are the HJE70s and the Shure E2s. The E2 is at an immediate disadvantage for me, because inserting it properly and looping the cords over my ears is such a fuss. Then the tactile experience is disappointing. The cord is thick and 'bullet proof', but feels a bit hard and cheap, and doesn't lie behind the ear very successfully, while the earbuds themselves are made of cheap, hard, frosted clear plastic (one is darker, but still opaque). They ooze cheap plastic! If you don't like foamies, the alternatives are hard, unyielding and really pretty uncomfortable. The little round storage case is well-made, neat and easy on the pocket, though.

The HJE70, by contrast, fits easily and comfortably (like all soft sleeve type canalphones). Anyone used to the EX71 will be immediately at home. It FEELS far more luxurious and expensive than the Sony or the Shure or the Ety, from its titanium box, to its soft cords, to the machined aluminium earbud bodies with their pivots and rubber grippers. I find the latter especially handy since you can leave the earpieces around your neck, but clipped together out of the way, rather than dangling and slipping. So it wins on practicality, too.

When it comes to sound, the E2C is immediately ahead of the EX71, clean but smooth (very similar to the sound of the MDR E888, but not quite as good in its reproduction of symbols and top-end percussion). The sound is smooth, rich, full and balanced. Almost too balanced for rock, I think, since the bass line can disappear behind the vocals, while the drums can be a bit intrusively percussive.

They are, however, superb for classical music and for what little jazz I listen to, or would be if they were not quite so uncomfortable.

By contrast, the HJE70s have a slightly more pronounced bass, and the subtleties of the bass line and bass drum beat are clear. It's subjective, of course, but I find that the sound is good to listen to, and is particularly well suited to rock. The high end percussion isn't as detailed as you get with the Shure, nor as prominent, but is better than you get with the Sony.

The HJE70 has two further advantages. The most important for me is that it's far more comfortable. After a few seconds you're not really aware that it's there. What's the point of a great-sounding headphone if wearing it distracts you from the music? The E2C is as flawed as the Sony E888, for me. Both have good sound (before the HJE70 I'd have rated them second and first for earbud sound) but both are practically useless because they're too uncomfortable to wear for extended periods. I could wear the 888s for a long aeroplane flight, sitting still, because the main fit problem is that they fall out, whereas the main problem with the E2C is that I'm always aware that they are there, that they make my ears sore, and that they eventually fall out!

The other advantage for the Panasonic is that it's much easier to achieve a good fit with the HJE70, and that even if you don't, the sound doesn't suffer too badly. Getting a good fit with the E2C is much more of a fuss, and I find that with the hard, non-foam buds, the phones gradually slide out of the optimum position, and as soon as they do the Shure sound then becomes dreadfully tinny. The Shures might be improved if you super-glued Sony sleeves onto them, I suspect, though how well the hard plastic would 'hold' the glue I don't know.”



Not many people have or have tried HJE70s, but there are a few other REVIEWS

Audiocubes:

John Roque_-_01/08/2006_
"Wow do these things rock! My previous earbuds were the Sony EX-71's, which I did enjoy very much. However, I was looking for something with more of a balanced range in sound and this has it. Whereas the 71s boomed in the low range and had virtually no mids, the Panasonics give you a terrific mix of lows, mids, and highs (after some burn-in time). The treble may seem a bit bright at first (though nowhere near as harsh as the 71s), but after a little while they'll calm down. The phones come with 3 tip sizes, an extension cord, and a velvet carry pouch. The aluminum body gives it a stylish look while making it light weight. And it also has a clever feature where you can connect the two halves back to back when not in use. So far it's been worth every penny."

Hoang Charles_-_10/06/2005_
"These headphones are the absolut must in ear headphones. I love the sound. Some years ago I discovered the late sony first in ear design mdr888 i think now replaced by the 71. I destroyed them not easily like all of you did with your 71. Then i bougt on the cheap 51. I lack the bass and clarity of the 888. Now I have those earbud and I can say that they are definetly better that the sony51 and also better by far than the 71 or the 81."

Pricegrabber

Dynax7
"Excellent quality with deeeeeeeeep bass
Strengths: Deep bass (even I have turned bass boost off!), stylish design, light weight and very comfortable to wear, the ear buds have rubber slots to stick together and can wear on neck when not listening.
Weaknesses: None so far.
Summary: The earbuds sound so good out of the box, maybe need some run-in to get the sweet treble sound. The bass is the most impressive one I have ever heard, so deep and punchy! And very comfortable to wear, the close design is even better than my Sennheiser PX200 and with better sound blocking means I can listen the music in better details. A bit expensive but not as expensive as Shure (haven't listen to any of Shure and can't tell how much better (is that?) than the Panasonic). Well worth the price if you look for hi-fi sound quality earbuds with deep bass."

There's a thread about the HJE70 at

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/show...hlight=RP-HJE70

There's an EX71 RP HJE50 comparison at

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/show...t=115194&page=4

[Jackonicko]

Other in-ear options:

From personal experience and ownership:
Avoid the E2C. Avoid Etymotic ER6is (horrid, flat sound). Avoid Sony EX71s.

Consider the Panasonic RP HJE70 (do a search).
Consider the new Sennheiser CX 300.
Consider the new Audio Technika ATH CK7 (slightly over your budget).

A list of available in-ear, soft earphones would include:

Griffin Technology_ EarJams_ (add ons for standard Apple buds) $14.99
Boomgear SX100 (not soft sleeves) £17.95/€19.95
Griffin Ear Thumps $20 (v bassy)
Creative EP630 (licenced Sharp MD33) £24.99
Headbanger Ear Subs_ $19.98
Sony EX51 $25.95
Aiwa HP-VX101 In-Ear Earphones $29.00USD
Pioneer SE-CL20 Earphone $29.95
ezEars SX50 Sound Isolating Earphones $29.98
Maxell Digital Ear Buds P-8 $29.99
Maxell Digital Ear Buds P-9 (black/red U2) $29.99
JVC HA-FX55 Inner Ear Earphones $35.00USD
Pioneer SE-CL30 Encapsulated Headphones $39.50
Sharp HP-MD33S Four Pole Headphones $39.50
Phillips she9501 £29.00
Sony EX71 $39.50-$45.95
Victor JVC HP-FX55 In-Ear Phones $48.00
Audio-Technica ATH-CK5 Inner Ear Headphone $49.50 $39.50
Sennheiser CX 300-B $49.95
Panasonic RP-HJE50 c.$50
Panasonic RP-HJE70 Aluminum Stereo Earphone $89.50
Audio-Technica ATH-CK7 Inner Ear Earphones $115.00USD

[iMonster]

Ah, well.. I was too lazy to search around and I had forgotten the name of the shop ^_^.

I knew you'd come with a good post though. I'm dying for my order to say "shipped" already >.<

[Matt174e]

Does anyone have an actual, real-life, picture of these buds?

I seen one where they were in someones ear, but not a full pic of the 'phones from head to toe.

And what about the "clipping" feature? What purpose is this for? To avoid tangling?

Can I line the wire behind my back, and let them hang over my chest when i'm not using them? Would the clipping be usefull to wear the phones like a necklase?

[Jackonicko]

Yes, that's exactly what you can do. They clip together and look like an 'anchor'.

There are acres of photos out there. If you ask iMonster really nicely, she'll post links......

[iMonster]

http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_07.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_03.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_05.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_06.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_10.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_11.jpg
http://pictures.mac4thai.com/jack/pana050725_09.jpg


http://www.flickr.com/photos/minami/54784076/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thingsimade/66215938/

and some pics from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-HJE70-Canal-Phones-RP-HJE70-S_W0QQitemZ5862953879QQcategoryZ88761QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

though I've yet to find a full pic of them streatched out Jack has said the set are measured as follows :

The extension cord is 40 inches long
The headphone cord is 14 inches from the plug to the 'split'. There
is then 8 inches to the left earbud, and 24 to the right.

[Matt174e]

Thanks for all those pics iMonster

There is then 8 inches to the left earbud, and 24 to the right.
That kind of blows. I don't see much point of the buds clipping together if one side is mich shorter than the other. Does this mean that I can't wear them over my sholders like a necklace?
If I wear them like that and I want to clip them, they would be hanging from my left side, rather than in the middle.

Bleh, I lost some respect for the buds:( They were looking perfect.

Can anyone think of some pros of having one side shorter than the other? I honestly can't see the point of this. I had a pair of lop-sided buds and they were a hassel.

[iMonster]

i just posted a picture of them clipped.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/minami/54784076/in/photostream/

it's supposed to be good so people can wear them behind the head

Jack will probably come and explain, but in one of the threads I posted there is an explaination.

It appears a lot of people get used to it fast though.. a lot of them are like that or have to be worn around the ears. I prefer this longer/shorter thing to being worn around the ears since I tuck my hair behind my ears all the time.

It took me a bit to like the idea, but I do now.. I'm really dying for them to arrive.

http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146460&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

the bottom posts here. I posted some headphones from iSkin and he said they can be worn in a similar style.

[Jackonicko]

You can 'necklace' them fine. The weight of the aluminium buds tends to make them hang pretty centrally.

[Chics LI]

Jack,
Can other tips be used on these Panasonic earphones, such as Shure type foams, or tri flanges or foam comfy tips as used on Westone UM1 etc. ?

Tom S.

[jgpippin]

Originally posted by Matt174e
Thanks for all those pics iMonster


That kind of blows. I don't see much point of the buds clipping together if one side is mich shorter than the other. Does this mean that I can't wear them over my sholders like a necklace?
If I wear them like that and I want to clip them, they would be hanging from my left side, rather than in the middle.

Bleh, I lost some respect for the buds:( They were looking perfect.

Can anyone think of some pros of having one side shorter than the other? I honestly can't see the point of this. I had a pair of lop-sided buds and they were a hassel.

It's intended so that the left bud goes straight from the player (say, on the front of your left hip) to your ear, while the other, longer cord goes around the back of your neck to your right ear. That way, when you pull them out, they dangle around your neck, right where you need them to pick them up again.

[Jackonicko]

The weight of the clipped buds pulls them to a central position on your upper chest.

[iMonster]

yup yup

trust me this is a GOOD thing

I looooooooooooooooooove the uneven cord now
I was like "ehhh, I don't think I will like these" that's why I was taking so long to buy them, but now that I have them I see what an idiot I was being. Trust, Jack! he knows ^_^

[Matt174e]

Well, I made up my mind. I'm getting the hje70. I also found a good site that ships to Canada, www.audiocubes.com.

I'm still a bit hesitant, it's a lot of money and I *might* not like them :S

I'm not an "impulse buyer" by any means.

[iMonster]

me either at all! and I usually feel depressed after spending over $40 on anything, haha. But I don't regret this one bit.. I adore these things and my iPod just looks so complete now with black earbuds.. the way the cord feels even matches the way my speck toughskin feels haha

they're just great! great design, sound and everything

[Jackonicko]

Matt,

If in doubt, think some more. Don't rush into anything.

But $89 really isn't much for earphones of this quality - and it's unbelievably nice to have earbuds made of metal rather than plastic, but if $89 feels like a lot of money then make the decision carefully.

They are twice the price of Sony EX71s or Phillips She 9500s, but also $40 less than Shure E2s, and less than half the price of Ety ER6s or Shure E3s, or one third of the cost of Ety ER4s.....

It's a price point where there isn't much competition - really just the Ultimate Ears Super.Fi 3. I'd say "NO CONTEST"...... but it's YOUR choice.

[Jackonicko]

In the UK, of course, the HJE70 is less than twice the price of the £30 EX71, and is significantly cheaper than the UE Super Fi 3.

[DanH]

Originally posted by Jackonicko
In the UK, of course, the HJE70 is less than twice the price of the £30 EX71, and is significantly cheaper than the UE Super Fi 3.

Anywhere online where i can get them for a decent price in the uk?

[Firecrest]

Originally posted by Jackonicko
Other in-ear options:

From personal experience and ownership:
Avoid the E2C. Avoid Etymotic ER6is (horrid, flat sound). Avoid Sony EX71s.

Consider the Panasonic RP HJE70 (do a search).
Consider the new Sennheiser CX 300.
Consider the new Audio Technika ATH CK7 (slightly over your budget).

A list of available in-ear, soft earphones would include:

Griffin Technology_ EarJams_ (add ons for standard Apple buds) $14.99
Boomgear SX100 (not soft sleeves) £17.95/€19.95
Griffin Ear Thumps $20 (v bassy)
Creative EP630 (licenced Sharp MD33) £24.99
Headbanger Ear Subs_ $19.98
Sony EX51 $25.95
Aiwa HP-VX101 In-Ear Earphones $29.00USD
Pioneer SE-CL20 Earphone $29.95
ezEars SX50 Sound Isolating Earphones $29.98
Maxell Digital Ear Buds P-8 $29.99
Maxell Digital Ear Buds P-9 (black/red U2) $29.99
JVC HA-FX55 Inner Ear Earphones $35.00USD
Pioneer SE-CL30 Encapsulated Headphones $39.50
Sharp HP-MD33S Four Pole Headphones $39.50
Phillips she9501 £29.00
Sony EX71 $39.50-$45.95
Victor JVC HP-FX55 In-Ear Phones $48.00
Audio-Technica ATH-CK5 Inner Ear Headphone $49.50 $39.50
Sennheiser CX 300-B $49.95
Panasonic RP-HJE50 c.$50
Panasonic RP-HJE70 Aluminum Stereo Earphone $89.50
Audio-Technica ATH-CK7 Inner Ear Earphones $115.00USD

I saw an new kid on the block, Cresyn, in Popular bookstores. The earphones looks great. It looks like fashion asscessories.

The EP- E630 DL are selling for S$49.90. The review of Cresyn earphones are great in HardwareZone forum. Only the base is weaker. Does anyone has comments. I am buying one soon.

[Jackonicko]

Dan H,

It's cheaper to get them from a Panasonic dealer than from the online Panasonic store. My local dealer charged £52.

Read the thread.....!

[Matt174e]

I finally did it. I clicked that little button in PayPal that says "Pay".
I've been to the checkout page so many times that I think about it in my sleep. I would always get to the confirm order page and close the window. :p

btw, I ordered from http://www.audiocubes.com. Shipping to Canada.

Does anyone own a core case and these headphones? I hear that some input jacks don't fit.

[Matt174e]

I noticed some of the hje70's look differently than others.

http://www.audiocubes.com/images/f_panasonic_rphje70.jpg
http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/6_7_13_15_554611l/Panasonic_RP-HJE70.jpeg
http://img.shopping.com/cctool/PrdImg/images/pr/100X100/00/01/a4/6d/65/27553125.JPG

Is there an older and newer model?

[iMonster]

http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/6_7_13_15_554611l/Panasonic_RP-HJE70.jpeg

they're not shiny like that they're more matte like this one
http://www.audiocubes.com/images/f_panasonic_rphje70.jpg

they might have taken pictures of an unfinished product or something and changed it a little bit?

see the space in between one of them here like they were messing with it and unscrewed it or something or maybe that was an old feature idea for them to move out like that(seems useless to me)

http://img.shopping.com/cctool/PrdImg/images/pr/100X100/00/01/a4/6d/65/27553125.JPG

I've noticed a lot of things differ from their photos though ^_^

if you want I'll take pics of them.

[Matt174e]

Thanks!

Could you take a pic of the headphones stretched out in one line?

How do they clip together? Do I just push them together and pull them apart? Or do I have to press a button to get them uncliped?

[evoGage]

These could be very well my next pair of earphones! I've been reading about them for quite a while now and seems to be the best for the price out there. I do like Shure earphones but one thing I not too keen on is the way you wear them (upside down) and also the Y shaped cable.

Should I goto my local Panasonic store and ask if they could order them?

[iMonster]

you're in the UK, maybe you can get them cheaper where Jack got them ^_^(mentioned earlier in the thread)

I'll take a pic like that soon and you just push them together and pull them apart (it's easy) little rubber sides slip into a slot on each one and they stay very secure that way and nicely around your neck.

very easy and fun to wear ^_^

[evoGage]

iMonster, would it be possible to post some real life pics of the RP-HJE70? maybe wearing them?

[iMonster]

Originally posted by iMonster
if you want I'll take pics of them.

yep ^_^

[iMonster]

Bad News!

My camera had a 'Lens Error' and has to be sent back to Nikon for repairs which can take 7-10 business days. :(

I use my camera all the time and I just filled it with pics of the HJE70s (they're still all on my card, but I can't get them to my computer without my camera) ::sigh:: Maybe Jack can get his camera fixed before mine, eh? I think these headphones might carry a curse to camera owners ^_^ his camera was out of commission too last time I heard.

-iMonster

[evoGage]

Damm, sorry to hear about the camera! Maybe I asked for too much! :(

[iMonster]

eh, I'm sure it wasn't you.

I was going to take a picture of my cat and switched camera modes and LENS ERROR came flashing on my screen. I called them and we went through some troubleshooting crap and it didn't work so I have to send my Nikon 7900 : http://www.dpnet.com.cn/report/images/dc_nikon_7900_01s.jpg into their shop and hopefully get it fixed or replaced. Luckily I use a memory card to take pictures so they're all safe on it, but I don't have anyway of getting them onto my computer without the actual camera.

gosh, I'll miss my baby! I love having my toys around for me to use as I wish ^_^

[yrellag]

This thread started "Where to Buy Panasonic RP-HJE70. (UK)"

then got lost on the way..

did we find a place to buy em?

[Jackonicko]

Post *6 on this thread.....

"In the UK, my cheapest option was to go to my local Panasonic dealer and get them to order them. I explained that I wanted to support a local store rather than an internet dealer, but didn't want to pay more than I would do online. I asked what was the lowest price they could do, and got a cheaper price than Panasonic UK charge on their site. (£52 rather than £61, a £9 or $16 saving). I got them in five days. The cheapest price I found online from a UK-based dealer was £56). For UK podders, Wadleys in Bicester (speak to David on 01869 252117) will obtain HJE70s for £52, as will Astleys in Wallingford (01491 839305), where I bought mine."

Both are great, old fashioned hi fi shops (Astleys sell CDs too) that are well worth supporting.

[iMonster]

^ how's your camera, Jackonicko?

[Jackonicko]

All checked out and packed ready for Singapore in 36 hours time!

Why?

[iMonster]

Ah, I thought it was broken or something? ^_^;; that's why you couldn't take pictures before? I have a bunch on my card, but my camera is bust, hehe.

[Jackonicko]

Yes, mine was just being serviced.

[Chics LI]

Jack,
The is a re-post. Do you know of any company that makes replacement tips equivilent to medium size tips as supplied with Panasonic HJE 70's?
I just got a pair of HJE 70's and so far like them, trying to get used to IEM. I have mostly used Grado SR 60's with my Ipods. IEM is a new expieriece for me .Tips seem to mean everything, started with small tip for most comfort and sound was kind of tinney---went to med. size and much, much fuller sound. I like Panasonics alot but the IEM will take some getting used to. Never used any other IEM before and was considering UM1 and came very close to ordering but your reports swayed me. Got them from J&R in NYC which *issed me off because I had to pay tax but delivery was quick.
Again, do you know of other tips which may work on HJE 70?

Tom S.

[yrellag]

Rang both Wadleys in Bicester, and Astleys in Wallingford today they both say "they have none in stock"


Wadleys told me they have only ever sold one pair, and had to wait a month to get em!?

Panasonic have none in stock and a new range in March,

So if anyone spots a pair of these in the UK please post here!


:(

[DanH]

Have you tried ebay?

[evoGage]

These earphones are so rare!

[iMonster]

in a store ..yeah, it seems so!

check digitallyunique.com and see if they deliver out there cause I got mine super fast.

[yrellag]

Yep, tried eBay...

there's none on offer in the UK..

[iMonster]

??

Jack said he ordered them special, why can't you do the same? it's going to take just as long to try to track them down, when there is none just in the store, and eventually end up ordered them online and waiting a few days anyway!

[yrellag]

Simple, answer Imonster! The clues in my post above!

Panasonic UK have NON, they are bringing a new range out in March.

So there is no point in me ordering a pair, the replacments could be crap.

The guy at Astleys told me this then tryed to sell me another make.
He also said that the last pair he orderd took a month, so it would be pointless for me to order now.

Thats why I am posting here.

So again if anyone see's a pair here in the UK...

yader, yader.

:D

[iMonster]

obviously the answer is to rob Jack!

[Jackonicko]

You might try Astleys again - some of the people there are more helpful than others.

Or try

http://www.paultaylordjc.co.uk/index2.html

[yrellag]

Tryed Paul Taylor, they have none...

Astleys were helpfull, but said that "they could not order as panasonic have none."

I need someone that has a pair in stock now.

Thanks for trying.

[Matt174e]

I got my HJE70's a few days ago. I'm have some serious issues with them :(

1. Any minor tug on the wire will send a blast of pain to my right ear. Everytime it happens I feel an urge to pull them out and stomp on them.

2. How much sound is supposed to be isolated? How far are they supposed to go in?
Am I not supposed to hear my fridge, a doorknob turning, or a snap of my fingers?

3. When I line the cable down my back, I can't turn my head to the right without pulling on the wire. And as I said before, this can be very painfull and irritating. There has to be a way to prevent this, right? Everytime I pull out the wire, it'll just go back to where it was. Everytime I want to look to the right of me, I have to pull the right wire forward

4. The extention cable keeps pulling out.
With the cable going down my back, The slightest motion can rip the extention away. I can see this more of a feature than a defect since it will reduce stress on the wire, but because of the uneven cord length the cable always drifts over to the left side of my back, near my arm. I always find the input of the headphones down my left sleeve. with the extention hanging out of my pocket.

Most of the problems I'm having boil down the the uneven length of the R/L wires. It's driving me mad.

I can't be the only one with these problems, but I never heard any of them mentioned. I never read one bad review about these earbuds, and I dind't think for a minute that I would be the first to point out the negatives. Please help me if you can.
I'm strongly considering sending them back and paying the 15% restocking fee.

[iMonster]

blast of pain

dude wtf O.o yours are possessed or something. I've neeeeeeeeeever had discomfort from them at all. The only time I've ever felt the slightest weight is when I have one of them out of my ear hanging down so I can hear what someone else is saying. I can barely hear anything at all when they're in even if they're is no sound coming out of them.

[alfa999r]

Hi Guys,

the only place i could get to order a pair around london and the home counties was the panasonic shop in Kingston upon thames, i then rang astleys in Wallingford who told me that 70's wher discontinued!!! grr so we will have to wait and see i my ones turn up??? if they dont what is the next alternative?:mad:

[Chics LI]

Guys,
I just bought a pair of HJE 70 earphones last week from J&R Music in NYC, they are listed on their website, around $85 plus tax and postage. First pair of earphones I have had other than POS Sony buds that came with my Ipod.
I don;t understand all the fancy terms used in reviews, but I do know that I am as pleased with these as I am with my Grado SR 60 headphones. The music is clear for all types, Rock,jazz,classical etc. And comfort factor is fine. I use the med. size tips (small does not seal well enough and large hurt. They sound great to me.
Now as far as HJE 70 being discontinued, this is a false report or rumor. I called Panasonic USA and they are in production and available. They also sell replacement tips.
I wish I was expert enough to give a proper review, I think the bass is good and I hear vocals and instruments clearly.

Tom S.

[Jackonicko]

Matt,

Wear the left hand bud in your left ear. The right in your right. Put the cable from left earbud to right behind your head. Put the cable from the left bud to your ipod down your left hand side.

No problem. You can turn your head in either direction.

[alfa999r]

I contacted Pansonic uk today, they told me that the 70's have been disontinued to be replaced by the 71's in early April, I was informed that they are almost the same model and that they just have a colour variation and thats about it and that they will only sell 70's to pansonic shops, thats y all the other dealers say they are finsihed. i also listened to senheiser 515 and 555,495, and 600. the 600 the only 1 having and depth and weight but vocals where dull when playing the prodigy firestarter and the other down side was that my ipod Video struggled a little hence not a lot of volume. hope this helps

[evoGage]

For UK I found a site for £45

http://www.annova.biz/cart/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=208_182_230&products_id=4390

[Jackonicko]

Astleys is down on the Panasonic site as an approved dealer.....

[alfa999r]

I orderd mine from pansonic shop Kingston, i also tried various senheisers but couldnt find a pair that really struck me, i then tried a pair(dont laugh) of Technics dh1200's great!!! bought em it just goes to show its very hard to go by reviews as most mags didnt give them the best rating i am very pleased!!

[Jackson]

I ordered my HJE70 from warehouse123. The price was not bad and they ship worldwide! I got exactly what I ordered and the product was packed well! Am very pleased with their response time and service.

I ordered the new Philips SHE9501 as well
http://www.warehouse123.com/ProductInfo.php?pid=PHISHE9501-WHT

Very nice earbuds for $20! Highly recommend!

:)

[DanH]

Originally posted by alfa999r
I orderd mine from pansonic shop Kingston, i also tried various senheisers but couldnt find a pair that really struck me, i then tried a pair(dont laugh) of Technics dh1200's great!!! bought em it just goes to show its very hard to go by reviews as most mags didnt give them the best rating i am very pleased!!

hey mate, how long did they take with the order?
where abouts it the shop? is it in the centre or on the high street?

[Jackson]

Originally posted by alfa999r
Technics dh1200's great...

Protable headphone with a lot of bass...right?

[Jackonicko]

Hey Alfa, how much did they charge?

[Matt174e]

:( I ripped the extention cord in half. Anyone know where I can get a suitable replacement? The wire is 1m long.
I went to Radio Shack but they only had thick cables, and the shortest was 6'. I also checked eBay, all the ones I can find were too long.

Also, would any type of foam tips fit the hje70's? In my search for a good set of earbuds, I notice a lot of people mixing diffent eartips from different brands. Are all eartips universal? Which brand will fit the panasonics? I's also like to try the "3 pronged" ones ;)

[Chics LI]

Matt,
I asked same question about replacement tips and never got a reply. I called Panasonic and they have replacements. I don't know how much$$.

Tom S.

[Piarco75]

I got a set of HJE70's from ebay - £52 shipped. Should be here mid next week. From everything I've heard about them I'm sure I won't be disappointed, my only hesitation was the short cord and extension.
As I prefer straight jacks I'll be using the spare extension I got with a set of MX500's, but the length is still 1m - I would really like something shorter - 75cm or even 50cm would be enough for my needs. Anyone got an idea where you could get a suitable matching cord for the HJE70's?

Or do the folks with them use just the short cord and have their iPod in a shirt pocket?

[evoGage]

Just ordered a pair of HJE70's and lets hope that it will suprass my EX71's like Jackonicko has said :)

I'm looking forward to them.

[iMonster]

Originally posted by Piarco75
My only hesitation was the short cord and extension.

As I prefer straight jacks.

Or do the folks with them use just the short cord and have their iPod in a shirt pocket?

Someone on this forum said straight plugs will damage your iPod jack over time. I used to want the straight kind also because there appeared to be a noise when it moved around, but I haven't heard anything bad from the HJE70s at all. They're perfect!

If I wear a shirt with a pocket (raaaaaarely) it's the perfect size for it! And sometimes, when I am cleaning, I clip it onto my shirt collar.. so the cord never hangs in the garbage! Ewww, lol.

I've had them for a little bit now and am still VERY satisfied. It seems like people who get other ones (around the price of the HJE70s) always want to upgrade to a $100+ expensive model, but I am completely pleased with my HJE70s. The freedom the isolation gives alone is worth the price! I no longer have to jack the sound up to 100% eventully damaging my hearing. It has cut my volume by at least 50% in all song situations (some songs by around 75% less volume than before)

I'm a very, very happy camper ^_^

[Jackonicko]

The HJE70 sounds like a $150-$300 phone. I'm amazed more people haven't caught on.

[Piarco75]

Originally posted by iMonster
Someone on this forum said straight plugs will damage your iPod jack over time.
Really? Can't see the resoning behind this. I alwas thought that the L-jacks became popular because they were less prone to being pulled out easily, which would also mean that the connections/wires were less likely to break. But I don't get how this would affect the actual item they are plugged into. If it was the case, surely Apple would provide the stock earbuds with an L-jack... just a thought!

[yrellag]

In answer to Jackonicko

"The HJE70 sounds like a $150-$300 phone. I'm amazed more people haven't caught on"

They did not sound too great to me, I found them just ok.
Wanted to like em, but they did not cut the mustard.

The headphones are a big a pain to find in the first place, just think of getting spares for em!

[iMonster]

Originally posted by Piarco75
Really? Can't see the resoning behind this. I alwas thought that the L-jacks became popular because they were less prone to being pulled out easily, which would also mean that the connections/wires were less likely to break. But I don't get how this would affect the actual item they are plugged into. If it was the case, surely Apple would provide the stock earbuds with an L-jack... just a thought!

Well, you'd think Apple would have made an iPod that wasn't insanely scratch prone, too, lol (and that they weren't completely crappy earphones to begin with.) The man explained to me awhile ago that it doesn't allow natural movement, so it's tugged around inside the plug, eventually causing damage? It was enough for me to stop trying to find another straight plug, lol.

I'll try to find the thread, but I'm pretty sure that's around what he said.

Everyone has their own ears, their own taste, their own needs.. etc. I just love these headphones! They blow every other pair I've owned or tried out of the water in a few ways. Comfort wise they're amazing (for my ears) the small fit perfectly. I love the shape of the wire, and that it doesn't make an annoying sound when you touch it, ALSO that it doesn't go around the ears! I'm a girl, I am constantly tucking the long pieces that fall in the front, behind my ears ^_^;; so that was a huge selling factor for me. These simply meet all MY want & needs. Doesn't hurt that they look pretty sweet and match the feel of my speck toughskin perfectly. My iPod is now a ninja!

[Jackonicko]

I don't want to be rude, yrellag, but you plainly haven't got a clue about quality headphones. You've praised the Sony EX71, you obviously have the least discerning ears on the lounge.

[Piarco75]

Hehe ninja 'pod - cool!
I get the point of what the bloke was trying to say. But I think with my turnaround of iPods (trade up at every generation) I need to worry about it, so I'm all aout the looks (shallow I know!) and the straight jacks just give a cleaner look. Mind you if I could just find a shorter extension I wouldn't really care!
Hopefully my Panny's pitch up tomorrow sometime. I know they'll look great with both my black core cases (and my nano's black and orange Macally Icesuit) the contour Showcase when its readily available over here, and the C6 MFG Carbon Fibre "case" I ordered on a whim of curiosity last week.... I know its not much of a case, but I kinda like the industrial looks :D

[lobotomy]

I'm 15, $89 is ALOT of money to spend on earphones, but I do want the best sound possible for a reasonable price.
I was considering the shure e2's that I can get for $79 shipped. But after hearing Jacko and iMonster talk about how great the Panasonic HJE-70 are, i'm starting to consider them.
Basically I wanna know if these are realy that much better than the shure's, if the the cord is durable, and if they cancel out noice.
Any help will be appreciated.

[Jackonicko]

Way more comfortable than the E2. The cord is more flexible but seems pretty rugged and robust to me.

As to sound quality, iMonster is clearly delighted with hers, though she can't compare them to the E2.

I can, and I'd rate the HJE70 MUCH higher.

As to cancelling noise - there is obviously no ACTIVE noise cancellation, but they do provide a great deal of isolation from outside noise. Any more isolation is, in my view, dangerous and pretty uncomfortable.

If you want to save money (and I can dimly remember being 15) then consider the Sennheiser CX300.

[DanH]

I saw someone on the bus wearing these this morning and they look like they stick out quite a bit.
Any chance of some pics them being used?

[Jackonicko]

Someone has posted pics or links to pics. Do a search.

They don't stick out - indeed the pivots on the arms allow you to make sure they lie very 'flat'.

[iMonster]

My camera is still being repaired (boo!), but as soon as it comes back I will gladly post pics.

a pic : http://www.flickr.com/photos/minami/54784032/

also of the anchor-style clip : http://www.flickr.com/photos/minami/54784076/in/photostream/

I wear braids on both sides of my head ALL the time (think Wednesday Addams, lol) They never, ever knock out. They fit inside the ear, they fold along your cheeks so nothing is sticking out from your face.

I had a chance to try some e2's actually...buuuut I was grossed out by using someone else's inner-ear phones, lol. So I didn't take the opportunity. He had some kind of crust around them, and that was just gross. >.> I really couldn't use anything like that though..as I said before, I need the tops & backs of my ears for hair storage, lol.

[evoGage]

I so cant wait till my arrives (probably thursday) as I would like to see how good these earphones really are!

[yrellag]

Quote Jackonicko...

"I don't want to be rude, yrellag, but you plainly haven't got a clue about quality headphones. You've praised the Sony EX71, you obviously have the least discerning ears on the lounge."

Loads of people love the Sony EX71's, and for me they are a good simple balanced budget phone.. But I don't need a better one for the basic audio/average circuit of an iPod.

As for diserning ears, I do most of my listening with a Naim audio active hi-fi system. If I wished to use a good headphone with this I use a pair of Stax Lambda Pro's.

As for my ears, I have been using them to sell British hi-fi for the last eighteen years. It my job.

I just feel its a bit lightweight to think that a pair of £70 in-ear headphone (that I still own and hate) should be rated so high.. You see, I dislike telling people some things great when its just not true.

So please Jackonicko, think longer before you post stupid remarks.

Posting tons here does not make you a harder or smarter guy. And a iPod with a set of ear buds won't give you anything close to music on a true quality audio system.

Its just a mp3 player, get over it.

You may just find a life.

[iMonster]

That was kind of immature, lol.

I'm not going to get into an e-argument though..and I hope you two don't get in one either!

It's just opinions.. people will end up with what they want in the end.

::flashes peace sign::

I guess you both are taking personal stabs at each other..behave :)

[Jackonicko]

I'm not claiming that HJE70s give the best possible sound quality, which, as you correctly point out, would be pointless anyway with a device playing compressed digital music.

I am merely suggesting that within the limitations of the iPod, the HJE70s represent great value for money, and have given my honest impression of how they compare with the other headphones I own or have tried for a significant period of time.

And I'm saying that your vocal support of the EX71, and your recommendation of that phone suggest to me that either:

1) You haven't heard anything better

or

2) You don't have the discernment necessary to judge quality.

When combined with your dismissal of the HJE70 (though I don't believe you'll be able to prove your ownership, somehow) as 'not cutting the mustard' when you think that the appalling EX71 presumably does cut it, then the latter judgement looks most likely.

If you were dismissing the HJE70 in comparison to high end alternatives, then I'd listen to you with more interest, but when you're comparing it unfavourably with a headphone whose only real strength is its comfort and isolation, and which is widely condemned for its muddy and over-sibilant sound, then your credibility has evaporated.

I post in this section of the Lounge because I hope that I can save people from buying some of the rubbish that I've wasted my money on, and so that I can recommend some of the better bits of ear wear that I've discovered.

I have a life, thanks, and I don't need a hi fi salesman lecturing me on what I should and should not do with it. I wouldn't pay much heed to a car salesman who tried to tell me that a 1975 Skoda was a better car than a 2005 Astra, and I wouldn't listen to a hi fi salesman who held up the EX71 as being better than the Panasonic. And most people who've tried both would agree with me, I'm sure.

[lobotomy]

Originally posted by Jackonicko
Way more comfortable than the E2. The cord is more flexible but seems pretty rugged and robust to me.

As to sound quality, iMonster is clearly delighted with hers, though she can't compare them to the E2.

I can, and I'd rate the HJE70 MUCH higher.

As to cancelling noise - there is obviously no ACTIVE noise cancellation, but they do provide a great deal of isolation from outside noise. Any more isolation is, in my view, dangerous and pretty uncomfortable.

If you want to save money (and I can dimly remember being 15) then consider the Sennheiser CX300.

Thanks for the info.
I'm gonna do a little more research, but I plan on buying th HJE- 70 pretty soon.

[yrellag]

Jackonicko with 5000 posts here, I doubt you have much of a life.

I have sold more headphones by playing them to people than you have probably ever put on your head, and that's how the customer who shop with me decide, by listening first. They purchase if the sound is worth the investment.

Unlike you, I do not force my opinion on to people. I know that you do not wish hear a bad things about the HJ-E70's, but I hate your lame attitude it stinks. You believe that if you like something everyone else in the planet should. How's that subjective? You believe this so much, that if anyone that dislikes them then they must be simply lying to you?

I still think they are just very average, I love the way that you think advice from someone working in audio retail retail is worth much less than you aggressive/ignorant opinion.

The most foolish thing I like about you, is the way that you think I am telling people to buy the Sony's because I enjoyed listening to them.. der? If you bothered to read my posts, you will see that I only ever recommend people to listen first.

You clam that people save money by taking your advice. So are you going to refund everyone that does not like the headphones you recommend if they don't like them?

I know I would have too.

[Jackonicko]

My post count began on the old fora, so represents rather less than the 3 posts per day indicated on my profile.

Because my mouth doesn't move as I type (and even then I avoid the spelling and grammatical mistakes that litter your posts) I do have time for a life outside. Would you believe it?

I hope you won't think that I'm being aggressive or rude, but I'm genuinely concerned about you. I wonder whether you are this rude and aggressive on here because you have to be nice to people in your day-to-day existance as a shop assistant? If you're really so unhappy in your job, perhaps you should retrain and get another one?

I don't know why you're being quite so silly. You have recommended an appalling, poor quality, muddy, sibilant earphone while criticising one that is plainly superior. And I'm not dismissing your opinion because you work in a shop, it's because you've made a very, very silly comparison.

I don't only recommend the HJE70, there are a number of phones I've tried that I've found to have better balanced, truer, clearer sound than other phones of the same (or similar) price. And before I make a recommendation, I make sure that other people agree, so that it's not entirely subjective.

And in the case of those who can prove that they have tried both the EX71 and the HJE70, all have expressed a strong preference for the Panasonic. You are diametrically out of step, and once challenged immediately became aggressive and defensive which is why I doubt your claim to own the HJE70s.

That's not my problem, it's yours.

Prove me wrong, post a picture of them with today's paper, or e-mail one to iMonster.



But then I expect that you think that a 1974 Skoda is better than a 2005 Ford Focus......

[Piarco75]

Originally posted by Jackonicko
And in the case of those who can prove that they have tried both the EX71 and the HJE70, all have expressed a strong preference for the Panasonic.
You can add me to that group... my HJE70's arrived today and they are fantastic!! The design is brilliant, taking the best points of the B&O A8's and improving on them, and the sound is simply excellent. After a burn-in period I think they'll be as near as perfect as I want (or am willing to afford - E4c's are well beyond what I'm willing to pay!).
My Griffin EarThumps will still see use on runs/gym, etc but the HJE70's are for every other occasion i.e. a good 85% of my iPod usage.
I'd still prefer a single cord solution, but the extra inches are being dealt with by the purchase of a NYC headphone clip - matching black of course ;)

I've been through the stock earbuds, EX51's (original model) EX71's, Etymotic Er-6i's and the EarThumps before I got these - and they produce the kind of performance I've wanted all along.

The 51's and 71's were too bass heavy and had a serious problem with treble (NOT a faulty 71 set - I went through 3 pairs as I thought they must be faulty to sound that muddy and have the same treble issue) producing harsh sounds in various tracks. Their pro though was the fit - it was extremely comfortable.
The Etymotics cord gave me serious issues due its thinness and cord noise, plus the fit of the earbuds, despite modification, was never really comfortable. The sound was balanced, but I was looking for a little more bass.
The EarThumps remain my bargain buy - brilliant little headphones, not just in look but performance. Lots of bass (not to everyone's taste I know) but gave a good representation of mid and high range. Just a shame they don't seem to be built to last beyond 6 months with heavy iPod usage. Then again if you use the supplied pouch instead of wrapping the cord around the iPod case you may have more luck than me!

And the HJE70's.... exactly what I wanted. Very happy camper!

[yrellag]

Don't rate or drive Skoda, Astra's or Fords mate..

There for people in your smaller budget world.

[Jackonicko]

That's "they're", not "there", as you'd know if you weren't in a lesser educated world.

And I'm sorry about the Skoda reference, have you worked up to a Vectra or a company Rover 75? I'm just trying to come up with things that an 18-year shop assistant might relate to.

See the post above you? Another happy HJE70 user, another person who can compare them to the EX71 and the ER6i.

[yrellag]

lol, 18?..

I'm twelve mate. And I dream of Vectra's.
They are the only thing that keeps me going on my paperboy wages.

That and the hope that one day, I can own a iPod memory stick from a few years hard work.

Jackonicko, you are a top gezzer have a great night.

[evoGage]

12??, so you've been BS(ing) about you've been selling hi-fi's for the past eighteen years then? :)

[Jackonicko]

Though your posts read as though they were written by a 12 year old, when I referred to you as an 18-year shop assistant I wasn't referring to your age, but to the length of time you've been selling retail hi-fi.

"As for my ears, I have been using them to sell British hi-fi for the last eighteen years. It my job." (This thread, 03-07-2006 08:27 PM).

It your job. It my understanding. Even with no verbs. It understanding of evo gage also.

Anyone who has really tried both the EX71 and the HJE70 deserves a laugh at your expense.

"I think there fantastic phones, Just got me a second pair after tying quite a few others.. Panasonics, Philips and CX300's...
But the Sonys do it for me.
The latest ones seem even better than me old ones with a tighter and more open bass.
I luv em" (Apple in-ears are better than EX-71's 02-27-2006 09:37)

"Its totally subjective..
I have had a stack of phones and still love the Sonys the best!..
On me third pair now!
hated Panasonic, Philips and a few others that were all reved up about here.
Part of it is how they fit you ears and what kind of sound suits.
Read loads of reviews in iLounge and see them contradictions!
Your just gonna have to buy a few pair mate!" (cx300 v. MDR-EX81 v. RP-HJE70, 03-02-2006 07:27 PM)

"In answer to Jackonicko
"The HJE70 sounds like a $150-$300 phone. I'm amazed more people haven't caught on"
They did not sound too great to me, I found them just ok.
Wanted to like em, but they did not cut the mustard.
The headphones are a big a pain to find in the first place, just think of getting spares for em!"

AND

"Loads of people love the Sony EX71's, and for me they are a good simple balanced budget phone.. "
(Where to Buy Panasonic RP-HJE70. (UK) 03-06-2006 06:43 PM and 03-07-2006 08:27 PM)

What do you think iMonster, Piarco 75, Truckson, Chics LI, Alfa 999r, Jackson, evo Gage? Do you chaps think the EX71s are better......?

[yrellag]

Jackonickos post no.5006 and his best ever.

Now if Jackonicko takes just 10 minutes to type each one, being fair. taking in to count he could read a few first...

Thats just 50060 minutes total spent here, and that is being on the lean side.. You don't have to do the maths on that.

But here is the maths..

Thats 834.33 hours,

The same as working 104.29 eight hour days,

or a third of a year.

Just think, what kind of headphones that sort of work could buy?

He could have a set of Lambda pro's like mine!..

Funny how he fails to notice that?

But I still love him...

Just wish he would post more.

Does he have a job?

[iMonster]

Stop.

[Piarco75]

Time to leave it yrellag. Anyone can use stats to prove their point. The fact - if I use your "10min per post" presumption (which I think is on the high side for 99% of posts) is that Jack has spent merely over 30min a day here in the Lounge since joining. Take it down to just under 5min per post, and it works out a only at 14.4 min a day. Which isn't anywhere near as sad/patheic as you'd like people to believe. I'm sure there are things that you do each day which could be used in the same way - watching tv for example. Like I said, stats can be made to suit whatever point you're trying to get across.

But like iMonster says, time to stop.

[Jackonicko]

Ten minutes per post?

You're joking.

It doesn't take me ten minutes to compose and type even a lengthy post. I rarely spend more than five minutes on iPodlounge, and when I do it's when I'm waiting for something to finish printing, or waiting for a phone call. It's a time filler. As I said before, I don't need to spell- or grammar-check, my lips don't move when I type, and I type at speed. (Journalists and writers tend to be able to).

The only time consuming aspect comes with reading your posts since ploughing through your poor spelling and grammar is painful.

But this thread is about headphones, and while I'm happy to laugh at anyone who maintains that the risibly dreadful EX71 is a good headphone, perhaps we should get way from self indulgent mud slinging.

[Piarco75]

Couldn't help but update my last post with an "under 5 min" stat!
Sorry but I couldn't help it as I've been processing figures at work, so I thought I'd continue the trend before I want to put my head through my monitor.
Which, if I don't go and get some coffee now, will be in the next 10 minutes :D

[evoGage]

Just recieved my today and so far I'm blown away by the quality of the sound! Compared to the EX71's I could hear midrange that didn't exsist. I'm currently letting them 'Burn In' and will have a proper test later. Also I turned the EQ off for these and it sounded superb! unlike the EX71's

Overall I'm very happy with the HJE70's.

[iMonster]

Excellent!

- Mr. Burns

[Jackonicko]

Funny that Yllr doesn't agree.

Funny how quiet he's gone since I challenged him to prove his claim that he had a pair.

[soozmart]

Originally posted by evoGage
Just recieved my today and so far I'm blown away by the quality of the sound! Compared to the EX71's I could hear midrange that didn't exsist. I'm currently letting them 'Burn In' and will have a proper test later. Also I turned the EQ off for these and it sounded superb! unlike the EX71's

Overall I'm very happy with the HJE70's.


I'm looking for a pair of these in the UK. Did you get them from the annova.biz site that you mentioned in this thread?

[evoGage]

Yep I did.

[Piarco75]

I got mine from audiocubes - at £57 including delivery, its not a bad price considering its coming from the States...

[Jackonicko]

Thought that 'cubes were out in Hong Kong?

[Piarco75]

Really? You may well be right, I just presume USA due to everything being listed in the almighty $. If they are HK based I must be completely unaware of half of what happens around me as I've been ordering from the for years.... since the "Transitional Period" (the 5 year of Minidisc usage)

:EDIT: Yup, I'm evidentally completely oblivious - they are HK based! :p

[Dayroc]

Originally posted by Piarco75

:EDIT: Yup, I'm evidentally completely oblivious - they are HK based! :p [/B]


i'm sure i read somewhere that audiocubes is from japan ?

[george.]

THe audiocubes logo/slogan is "unique lifestyle from Japan", but to quote from their site: Audio Cubes is a US electronics shop with an "import" touch.

However, they also say this:

Audio Cubes sells rare Japanese products and ships directly from our warehouse in Japan.


Who will unravel the mystery of Audiocubes? Only Jack will tell...

[Jackonicko]

Mate, it doesn't really bother me, over-much. They seem to have a good reputation and competitive pricing, and they carry a lot of lines.

[yrellag]

Lovers of the HJE70's might be advised to wait.

As the replacment model the HYE71 is due out at the end of this month and is proposed to be the same product with a wider colour option.

No doubt "iPod white" will be on the menu.

;)

[Jackonicko]

I guess that means different coloured wires and tips, since the rest is aluminium.

[vegaluca]

Howza goin' folks,
A nubee here who was over in the states for a surfing holiday a couple of weeks ago and made his 1st purchase of an ipod. I knew it was the start of something big in the land of discovering new tunes and building a big ipod, the model I chose was the 30G video and to be honest I think it will do the trick nicely as I have nearly all my CD's on there with a couple of downloads and I have only used 4.79 gb's.
I used to own a pretty good Sony walkman back in the late eightys that had good headphones with them but I remember sitting on them and that was the end of them .... I then tried a pair of BIG headphones (Vivanco if my memory serves me correctly, not too expensive) and WOW !!! the differance was just something else ...
Believe me I was getting some strange looks with these yolks keeping my ears warm, I just kept telling myself "feck them ... they don't know the sound quility I'm getting outta these bad boys.
Anyway I'll try not to make this short story get any longer but I was reading this thread with particular interest as I knew that the stock buds had to go and be replaced with something else, I was toying with the idea of the bose triports and believe it or not
the AKG K701, its not that I have more money than sense because thats simply just not the case its just that I am really looking for that "wow man check this sound out !", ya know what I mean ?
I dunno if I would have the nerve now to walk down the street with the AKG's on but then again mayby I might if the earphones I ordered last week dont live up to my expectations.
I ordered the Pannys through David in Wadleys who didn't have them in stock but was expecting them to come in today the 21st and then ship to Ireland.
I don't expect the Pannys to match the likes of the AKG's (which I have never heard) as that is not a fair comparision, I'm just looking for crystal sound with a nice bitta bass.

[lobotomy]

Originally posted by yrellag
Lovers of the HJE70's might be advised to wait.

As the replacment model the HYE71 is due out at the end of this month and is proposed to be the same product with a wider colour option.

No doubt "iPod white" will be on the menu.

;)

Is there a release date?

[sparky750]

Bought these last week from annova uk took 3 days for delivery and compared to my 71s they're fantastic. initially when i first got them they where good but after burn in they where even better and seem to have a lot less cord rub than my 71s

[Dayroc]

hey so wht case do you use to hold your panny70s in ? (if you dont want to use the huge case that comes w/it)?/

[Dayroc]

Originally posted by george.
THe audiocubes logo/slogan is "unique lifestyle from Japan", but to quote from their site:

However, they also say this:




Who will unravel the mystery of Audiocubes? Only Jack will tell...

i can confirm that they ship their products from japan, i ordered from them a week ago and have been tracking my order and its been comming from japan. but i dont know about their store or website office that could be in HK .

[sparky750]

Never use a case for any of my phones they're either in my ears or i just wrap them around my ipod probably wrong but I'm just too lazy.

[Dayroc]

well, i just got my pannys70s today! .

they are amazing! a little bit bigger then i expected it to be. and the cord is a bit longer.

in total they are really good.

[Stemkat]

Good Afternoon All,

How sad am I?! Had a day off today and have spent 5+ hours searching the net for earphones!:(

I must admit, the HJE70's seem impressive and look the part, and am pretty sure I'll like the metal machined look coupled with the black wiring... not to mention the way they clip together and the cool case.

I've taken the plunge and purchased a pair online for

[Jackonicko]

1) No

2) Yes

Job done!

[Stemkat]

Short and sweet! ...but that's all I needed to know.

Cheers Jackonicko! :)

[lobotomy]

I finally ordered my HJE-70's today!

[elam]

I'm just curious. If these things are that good and the Etymotic er-6i's suck why are there no reviews - not one - out there. I mean by someone who does it for a living, and not someone who just wants "more bass". I've found tons of people who like the er-6is (and some who don't), but i'd like to read a review of the Panasonics.

[Jackonicko]

1) There are reviews, you just haven't looked hard enough.

2) There are plenty of discerning iPodders who have posted their opinions of the Panasonic HJE70 here. You can believe or ignore them as you see fit. I'm not a salesman and having given you the information that would enable you to make the right choice, and to avoid making an expensive mistake, it really is over to you. I've done my bit, I could care less whether you now make an expensive mistake - you have at least had access to the necessary information.

[elam]

1) There are not reviews. Not that I can see from google. There's one on hardwarezone.com but it uses some stuff from the press release. If you know of any I'm missing, I'd love to see them - and I mean a real review, like these:

http://ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/comments/etymotic-er-6i-isolator-earphones-ipod/

http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review2471.html
http://www.audioreview.com/etymotic6icrx.aspx
http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/index.php/taxid;2136212602;pid;1075;pt;1

2) There are plenty of discerning iPodders who have posted their opinions of the er-6i, also. And they're the same price - about $90.
I'm just curious why nobody reviews them.

[Jackonicko]

I had to buy my Panasonics, and friends who normally get review headphones haven't reveived them, whereas they and I have had no problems getting Shure and Etymotic kit. If reviewers can't get them easily and free, reviews don't happen.

They're also much newer, and have very limited availability in many markets.

Personally, I'd rather trust independent ordinary users than online or print magazine reviewers, who may give a mediocre product an easy ride if advertising might be at stake.

I get lots of PMs asking for advice, often from dissatisfied ER6i users. The latest included this paragraph:

"Unfortunately, I have wasted money on the 6eri which are rather expensive here in Germany. I don´t find them to be impressive at all as they sound extremly thin, not analytic, just thin and tinny. Added to that I don´t appreciate their ultra deep in ear fit and cheap build."

I have absolutely no axe to grind. I wanted to like the ER6i, as they look nice, they're white, and they have a good name. I got them for nothing. But they stay in my desk drawer because frankly, they don't cut the mustard. They're better than EX71s or Apple buds, but not much better, and compared to the HJE70 (or even the CX300) they are mediocre.

[Jackonicko]

Lots of people who have listened to both prefer the HJE70. I don't know anyone who has listened to both who prefers the Ety. That might not prove anything, but it says a lot to me.

[waz]

Bought mine :D Hopefully they arrive before the weekend hits.

[waz]

Found a review for you mate but I am unable to post the link....

[Fleet]

After reading this thread (skipping the silly argument part), I placed my order for a pair. I get a discount through work so I got a pair for $68 shipped. Can't wait to use them in the gym on the treadmill. I can't stand listening to the pumped in pop music anymore. It's so loud, my stock earbuds still let all of that sound in.

[bjork]

For those who bought the HJE70, could you share your experience with it?
Dislikes/likes.

Also does the HJE70 come with a short cable (and an extension), instead of one long cable?

I am specially interested with the sound quality compared to Sony's latest NUDE/MDR-EX90 in-ear can. They are priced similarly. EX90 was released early this May.

[Jackonicko]

Does the HJE70 come with a short cable (and an extension), instead of one long cable?

CORRECT

I am specially interested with the sound quality compared to Sony's latest NUDE/MDR-EX90 in-ear can. They are priced similarly. EX90 was released early this May.

I'D BE SURPRISED IF YOU FIND ANYONE WHO HAS BOTH. BOTH ARE HARD TO FIND, AND THE SATISFACTION RATING OF THE HJE70 IS SUCH THAT FEW WOULD BLOW ANOTHER $90 ON THE NEW SONYS.

[vegaluca]

I have been using HJE 70's for over two months now and I have to say that I am VERY disappointed in them to say the least ... I bought these earphones on the strength of what was said here on this forum and of particular one Jackonicko.
I have found the earphones to have fairly good mids & trebles but bass very disappointing.
I seem to have a good seal (large rubber housing) but the overall performance is definitely not what I expected it to be .... I found these earphones talked up way too much.
I must say that they are very comfortable to wear in comparison to the stock buds but the stock buds hold better bass IMO.
Sincerely,
vegaluca.

[rockyglw]

Like you I bought these headphones after many good reviews on this forum, particularly from Jackonicko who seems to have tried many phones and has the same opinion of Sony Ex71s and Etymotics that I hold. So far I have found Jackonickos promotion of the Panasonic's justified. I find the opposite to your views in relation to bass performance with my Panasonic's. After extensive listening to all types of music on my 5gG 60gb I have found nothing else to touch them in terms of performance, comfort and value. Bass is clean and full without being oppressive, treble is bright without sibilance on everything other than poor recordings and the mid-range is very balanced. Construction wise they also take some beating. I like having the option for a short cord which I can use with the Apple remote. It's a shame that you have been dissapointed with your phones but then perception of sound quality is very individual. I do feel that due to their balanced characteristics the Panasonic's would appeal to the majority of listeners, particularly in comparison to the stock buds, which although not bad for supplied ear-buds do not come anywhere near the Panasinics in terms of sound qulaity, isolation and comfort.

[iMonster]

eh it's quite awhile later and I still adore these things, lol. Maybe I am not as sensitive to sounds as others though? :P The only problem I have had with them is that my stupid extension cord doesn't work anymore >< that happened like 5 months ago and I can't seem to find one of a similar size. The one for sale on the actual website is $17.00 with basic shipping and I don't know if it's worth it if it's just going to break again. I wasn't rough with it, or anything. I do listen my iPod nearly everyday though so they were heavily used.. I just thought something that costs so much should last longer :P

I don't know if I am going to just get new headphones or not since these feel so damn comfortable in my ears now.

[Jackonicko]

vegaluca,

I'm really very sorry if my recommendation led you to buy something you don't like. Everyone else who has reported back has said the opposite - that they are pleased with the HJE70, and that they're grateful for the recommendation.

Moreover, if you have a good pair of HJE70s, most people would agree that they are on the 'over-bassy' side of being balanced - and if you are finding that the stock buds deliver more bass, you either are not wearing them right, or they are badly faulty.

Fairly recently, I have heard some really poor HJE70s - I don't know whether they're very good counterfeits, from a second source production line, or just poor units that slipped through, so I do know that you can get great HJE70s or disappointing ones. Since then I have tried to add a 'health warning' about quality control when it comes to the HJE70.

I can only suggest that you return your 70s to Panasonic, and I hope they do the decent thing.

Do let us know how you get on!

[S.S.Tez]

does anyone know how I can use the 1 year warranty service? i cannot find it on the internet.

[BratPAQ]

i have an hje70, just one caution though, take care of it like its a thin spider web, the metal case is there for a reason, so you can protect it. also it would help to have a clip like those on cellphone earphones, as the shorter left ear will always be tagged because of the heavy jack connection, other than that, its the best sounding earphone i had.