Hip-Hop

[TheLastSession]

Hey everyone, I'm looking to find some good hip hop.

I know there is a guy on here with extensive knowledge in this genre so if you see this help me out! Or, if anyone knows what his name is tell me and I will send him a PM. But to give you an idea, I'm looking for artists like:

Deltron 3030
Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
Dan The Automator
MF Doom
Madvillain
Murs


So whos got some good ideas for me?

[iMacc]

I'm not 'the guy' but i'll recommend some classic stuff anyway.


De La Soul
Kanye West
Common
A Tribe Called Quest
Gang Starr
Jurassic 5
DangerDoom (MF Doom + Dangermouse)
Del Tha Funky Homosapian (Deltron)
The Roots

[TheLastSession]

Looks good and I was trying to remember Jurassic 5. I used to listen to more rap but I got into metal. I just want some more hip-hop to get a flow going.

I like rap but hate how everything has no meaning, most hip hop has a meaning, thanks iMacc!

Any others?

[Doug Gilmour]

Not my forte by any means, but I'll add a few more for what it's worth...

Boogie Down Productions
cLOUDDEAD
DJ Shadow
Edan
EPMD
Eric B. & Rakim
KRS-One
Mr. Lif
Public Enemy
The Herbaliser

-Dan

[papayaninja]

Heiroglyphics (Del's other group.)

Otherwise iMacc and Dan (Doug Gilmour) had pretty nice lists.

And the all-knowing guy you mentioned in the original post is Enjoilax.

[ReggaeGold 2006]

I never saw Nas' name on any of the list, so I thought I would add it. Nas is arguably the greatest lyricist in the hip hop game.

[frisk291]

I'm going to have to add Illogic to that list. IMO he's one of the best lyricists I've ever heard.

[Superweirdash]

Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Blackalicious
Busdriver
Immortal Technique
Common
Atmosphere
Brother Ali
A Tribe Called Quest
Bubba Sparxxx
Nate Dogg
Pharoahe Monch
E-40
Nappy Roots
The Roots
RJD2
Tha Liks
Wyclef Jean
The Fugees
People Under The Stairs
Latyrx
Lyrics Born
Frontline
Hieroglyphics
Pep Love

Some of my personal favorites.

[TheLastSession]

Thanks everybody, some really good stuff here.

[Sypher]

In the vein of what you mentioned:

Cannibal Ox, El-P, Cage, Mr. Lif.. all the Def Jux (http://www.definitivejux.net/jukies/) artists I guess, also Edan (Beauty and the Beat is amazing), 3 Melancholy Gypsys, Company Flow, Atmosphere, Cunninlynguists, UNKLE, Dr Octagon, Anticon, Doseone, Blueprint, Sole, Buck 65, Time Machine, Saul Williams, Oddjobs, Sixtoo.. Sims (album --> "Lights Out Paris" if you can find it) And all of the MF Doom offshoots obviously. Sorry if I repeated artists already suggested

[enjoilax]

Originally posted by Sypher
In the vein of what you mentioned:

Cannibal Ox, El-P, Cage, Mr. Lif.. all the Def Jux (http://www.definitivejux.net/jukies/) artists I guess, also Edan (Beauty and the Beat is amazing), 3 Melancholy Gypsys, Company Flow, Atmosphere, Cunninlynguists, UNKLE, Dr Octagon, Anticon, Doseone, Blueprint, Sole, Buck 65, Time Machine, Saul Williams, Oddjobs, Sixtoo.. Sims (album --> "Lights Out Paris" if you can find it) And all of the MF Doom offshoots obviously. Sorry if I repeated artists already suggested
Nice recommendations, BUT I HAVE A LIST.

A Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes And Life
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm
A Tribe Called Quest - The Love Movement
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
Aceyalone - A Book Of Human Language
Aceyalone - All Balls Don't Bounce
Aesop Rock - Daylight
Aesop Rock - Labor Days
All Natural - Second Nature
All Natural - Vintage
All Natural - No Additives, No Preservatives
Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly
Atmosphere - Lucy Ford The Atmosphere EP's
Atmosphere - Overcast!
Atmosphere - Seven's Travels
Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having
Beanie Sigel - The B. Coming
Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Beastie Boys - To the 5 Boroughs
Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane
Big Daddy Kane - Looks Like A Job For
Big Pooh - Sleepers
Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous
Binary Star - Masters of the Universe
Biz Markie - The Best Of Cold Chillin'
Black Eyed Peas - Behind The Front
Black Eyed Peas - Bridging The Gap
Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow
Blackalicious - Nia
Blackalicious - The Craft
Blockhead - Music By Cavelight
Blueprint - 1988
Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded
Brother Ali - Champion (EP)
Brother Ali - Shadows On The Sun
Cage - Hell's Winter
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Cee-Lo - Cee-Lo Green... Is The Soul Machine
Charizma & Peanut Butter Wolf - Big Shots
cLOUDDEAD - cLOUDDEAD
Common - Like Water for Chocolate
Common - One Day It'll All Make Sense
Common - Resurrection
Common - Be
Count Bass D - Dwight Spitz
CunninLynguists - Will Rap For Food
CunninLynguists - Southernunderground
D.I.T.C. - D.I.T.C
Danger Mouse - The Grey Album
Danger Mouse & Jemini - Ghetto Pop Life
Dangerdoom - The Mouse And The Mask
De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead
De La Soul - The Grind Date
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - Both Sides Of The Brain
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - I Wish My Brother George Was Here
Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
Digable Planets - Blowout Comb
Digable Planets - Reachin' (A New Refutation Of Time And Space)
Dilated Peoples - The Platform
Dilated Peoples - Expansion Team
Diverse - One A.M
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... [2005 Deluxe Edition]
DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze
DJ Z-Trip & DJ P - Uneasy Listening Volume 1
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst
Edan - Beauty And The Beat
Edan - Primitive Plus
El-P - Fantastic Damage
Eminem - The Eminem Show
EPMD - Strictly Business
EPMD - Unfinished Business
EPMD - Business Never Personal
Eric B. & Rakim - Follow The Leader
Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full
Eyedea & Abilities - E&A
Gang Starr - Daily Operation
Gang Starr - Step In The Arena
Gang Starr - Hard To Earn
Gang Starr - The Ownerz
Genius GZA - Liquid Swords
Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album
Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
Grandmaster Flash - Adventures On The Wheels Of Steel
Guru - Jazzmatazz Volume 1
Handsome Boy Modeling School - So... How's Your Girl
Jay Dee - Welcome 2 Detroit
Jaylib - Champion Sound
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Jay-Z - The Black Album
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
Jay-Z - Unplugged
Jean Grae - The Bootleg Of The Bootleg (EP)
Jeru The Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East
Jungle Brothers - Done By The Forces Of Nature
Jungle Brothers - J. Beez Wit The Remedy
Jurassic 5 - Power In Numbers
Jurassic 5 - Quality Control
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Kanye West - Late Registration [UK version is better than US version]
King Geedorah - Take Me to Your Leader
KMD - Bl_ck B_st_rds
Kool Moe Dee - How Ya Like Me Now
KRS-One - KRS-One
Kurtis Blow - The Best Of Kurtis Blow
Kurtis Blow - Best Of Rappin
Latyrx - The Album [2002 Reissue]
Lauryn Hill - MTV Unplugged
Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Little Brother - The Listening
Little Brother - The Minstrel Show
Lootpack - Soundpieces Da Antidote!
Lyrics Born - Later That Day
Lyrics Born - Same !@# Different Day
Madlib - Shades Of Blue
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Maker - Shooting The Breeze
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
Masta Ace - Disposable Arts
MF Doom - Operation Doomsday
MF Doom - MM..Food
Mos Def - Black On Both Sides
Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Black Star
Mr. Scruff - Keep It Unreal
Murs - ...The End Of The Beginning
Murs - Murs 3 16 (9th Edition)
Murs And Slug - Felt 2 - A Tribute To Lisa Bonet
Nas - Illmatic
Nas - Stillmatic
One.Be.Lo - S.o.n.o.g.r.a.m
Oh No - The Disrupt
Peanut Butter Wolf - My Vinyl Weighs A Ton
People Under The Stairs - O.S.T
People Under The Stairs - Question In The Form Of An Answer
Pete Rock - Soul Survivor
Pete Rock - Soul Survivor II
Pete Rock - PeteStrumentals
Pete Rock - The Surviving Elements
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca And The Soul Brother
Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Main Ingredient
Pete Rock & Deda - The Original Baby Pa
Pete Rock & InI - Center Of Attention
Public Enemy - Apocalypse 91... The Enemy Strikes Black
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet
Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush The Show
Q-Tip - Amplified
Q-Tip - Kamaal The Abstract
Quasimoto - The Further Adventures of Lord Quas
Quasimoto - The Unseen
OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
RJD2 - Dead Ringer
RJD2 - Since We Last Spoke
RJD2 - Your Face Or Your Kneecaps
Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand
Run-D.M.C. - King Of Rock
Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell
Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C
Schooly D - Adventures Of
Skinnyman - Council Estate Of Mind
Slick Rick - The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick
Slick Rick - The Ruler's Back
Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2
Slum Village - Detroit Deli (A Taste of Detroit)
Soul Position - 8 Million Stories
Soul Position - Unlimited (EP)
Souls Of Mischief - '93 'Til Infinity
Talib Kweli - Quality
Talib Kweli - Right About Now
Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek - Reflection Eternal
The Foreign Exchange - Connected
The Game - The Documentary
The Mitchell Brothers - A Breath Of Fresh Attire
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
The Roots - Phrenology
The Roots - Things Fall Apart
The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
The Streets - Original Pirate Material
The Sugarhill Records Story
Time Machine - Slow Your Roll
Typical Cats - Typical Cats
Typical Cats - Civil Service
Ugly Duckling - Fresh Mode
Ugly Duckling - Journey To Anywhere
Ugly Duckling - Taste The Secret
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The 36 Chambers

[Kristiano]

Laxy, you scare me...:p

[Sypher]

Mmm. That list is giving me vertigo. Still stuff missing though so nerrr!! :p

[Doc Evils]

That list also has odd albums...but I cant be bothered to tell you. :D

[enjoilax]

Originally posted by Sypher
Mmm. That list is giving me vertigo. Still stuff missing though so nerrr!! :p
Yeah i decided to only put albums i REALLY love, and If I need something to the list, its what I've heard as opposed to what I know to recommend.
Originally posted by Doc Evils
That list also has odd albums...but I cant be bothered to tell you. :D
Thanks for this post! It was really helpful!

The only one i can see is Lauryn Hill as shes more neo-soul than hip-hop, maybe some of the insturmental hip-hop shouldn't be there, but i digress its still hip-hop.

[Doc Evils]

Well to be honest, it seems like most of your list is made from a bootlegged collection.

Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele

same person.. :)

[iMacc]

Most of enjoilax's list are definately official releases.

[Doc Evils]

Originally posted by iMacc
Most of enjoilax's list are definately official releases.

Yes, but acquired else where hehe.:)

[enjoilax]

Originally posted by Doc Evils
Well to be honest, it seems like most of your list is made from a bootlegged collection.



same person.. :)
You're kidding me right?

Why don't you criticize like the actual list as opposed to whether or not I pirated something? Thats a pretty heavy thing to say about another person, without having any kind of substantial proof clown sack.

[Doc Evils]

Ouch, didnt have to bite back that much. Though I must say, you do have a few artist there with a few missing albums that should be mentioned. Things that arent properly tagged always amuse me. I wont take this any further.

TheLastSession, I recommend Rob Swifts new album Soulful Fruit which is a nice listen and it the kind thing you are looking for. A more contemporay group is also Zion I with True and Livin' great album!

some oldies you should like include:

Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx

Scarface - The Fix

Mobb Deep - Juvenile Hell ( I think its one of their albums that has that early 90's feel)

oh and L.e.g.a.c.y.'s Project Mayhem which droped last year is a nice listen too.

[iMacc]

So first of all enjoilax can't spell, now you are nit-picking that he hasn't got perfectly tagged albums.


How bored/boring are you.....

[Doc Evils]

Originally posted by iMacc
So first of all enjoilax can't spell, now you are nit-picking that he hasn't got perfectly tagged albums.


How bored/boring are you.....

As much as the guy next to you. :)

[antiditz]

...white noise... maybe some of the insturmental hip-hop .... white noise...

'instrumental hip hop' - wow, is there really such a thing? Cool. You learn something new every day, I guess.

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Originally posted by TheLastSession
Hey everyone, I'm looking to find some good hip hop.

I know there is a guy on here with extensive knowledge in this genre so if you see this help me out! Or, if anyone knows what his name is tell me and I will send him a PM. But to give you an idea, I'm looking for artists like:

Deltron 3030
Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
Dan The Automator
MF Doom
Madvillain
Murs


So whos got some good ideas for me?

There are a few of us here. enjoilax already gave you a pretty good list to start out with, you could also delve more into the old school stuff.

3rd bass
black sheep
special ed
ll cool j (old stuff)
the pharcyde
boogie down productions
chubb rock
das efx
digital underground
epmd
ghetto boyz
large professor
d-shade
kmd
doug e fresh + slick rick
dana dane
percee-p
afu-ra
beanie sigel
guru streetsoul and jazzmatazz vol 1, vol 2
kool g rap
lootpack
mc shan
mc lyte
redman (old stuff)
roxanne shante
wordsworth
dj babu
dj stretch armstrong
dj craze
dj shadow

In no particular order at all. OH almost forgot the godfather of noise

rahzel.

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encore
bahamadia
2 live crew
craig mack
lord tariq
lords of the underground
naughty by nature
mystikal
xzibit

[enjoilax]

Originally posted by antiditz
'instrumental hip hop' - wow, is there really such a thing? Cool. You learn something new every day, I guess.

white noise? FOOL.

Yes there are alot of artists, but the best ones get stuck with that label. I would be more inclined to call them turntabilists as opposed to insturmental hip-hop but its easier to get an idea wi/ the latter.

RJD2, Blockhead, Nujabes, Cut Chemist, DJ Shadow, Pete Rock, basically any producer who has no vocals on his record.
Also the easiest way to get into hip-hop as you see true creativity when the beat is not made for someone to rhyme over. Its just ~5 mins of aural exploration.

edit - Mixmaster Mike, Kid Koala, Madlib - Shades Of Blue, Quasimoto - The Unseen (Instrumentals)

[the26letter]

check out articulate. u can find his album "The Preface" on iTunes or more of his more recent music at Its Artic. com. i think ull like it. just copy and paste the link and remove the spaces

[Sypher]

^ His name makes him sound like he should be much more.. indie I guess, but he's good.

I will add that Children Of Possibility by One Self (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=79381808&s=143441) is amazing.

[Doc Evils]

Still no mention of K-OS? his recent album Joyful Rebellion is an album I would highly recommend you go and buy now. Today I managed to pick up his debut album 'Exit' which is hard to find,considering it was first released in Canada. This is something also recommended. :)

[antiditz]

Originally posted by enjoilax
white noise? FOOL.

the 'white noise' reference was only that I don't usually pay much attention to the hip-hop threads, that sort of music not being to my taste, but the mini-flame war was mildly entertaining, so... And the 'instrumental hip-hop' comment caught my eye.

So, on that note, thanx for the edumacating, ye hip-hop guru! ;)

[toothpaste]

Originally posted by antiditz
the 'white noise' reference was only that I don't usually pay much attention to the hip-hop threads, that sort of music not being to my taste, but the mini-flame war was mildly entertaining, so... And the 'instrumental hip-hop' comment caught my eye.

So, on that note, thanx for the edumacating, ye hip-hop guru! ;)

Something i never understood. I dont' like country music, so I don't go to thread and comment on country music. Why must you spoil our thread?

As for the education, you need to sit down son and listen, watch and learn. What he was refering to as turntablisms is a subgenre of hip-hop, not rap.

[Derek McNelly]

Not a huge hip-hop fan, and I'm not 100% sure if you can classify these guys as hip-hop, but I picked up a tape by a group called Street Military, and it is a good 15 years old, but I was really impressed, because it was definitely a lower budget recording.

But as far as more mainstream goes, I didn't see a whole lot about Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. Probably one of my favorite hip-hop groups of all time, and Flash was and is the man.

[Skip2mylou]

Good to see we have a lot of hip hop fans here, didn't realise it.

I brought Grayskul - Deadlivers yesterday, which was released in late 2004...great album, you can really get involved into their music has such a dark feel to it.
Has guest appearances from Mr Lif, Canibus, Aesop Rock, Abstract Rude & Oldominion.

Been listening to a lot of old De La Soul albums (De La Is Dead mainly) classic material, The Grind Date their most recent release is another great album. Love the track with Ghostface.

If you want a good new hip hop instrumental album check out J-Dilla - Donuts...one of the best producers going around Dilla.

I'm a writer/reviewer, have written for sites such as www.sixshot.com
www.hoodrich.net
I'm hired at a new site, which is being constructed now and will be open in 10-15 days called Streetcorporate which will be a very big site.

Any of you post at any hip hop forums ?

[toothpaste]

skp2mylou what an interesting name, so interesting in fact that i dug deep and found it, here are some of the lyrics

"This is a world premier and I'm here
A presentation beyond compare
So MC's step to the rear as I break through
Girls say ooh and then skip to my loo
That means dance as I get smooth with
Poetic perfection that you can groove with"

it's hard being the kane - big daddy kane

yeah what's up.

[Skip2mylou]

Lol its actually Rafer Alston (plays for Houston Rockets in the NBA) it was his streetball name in his AND1 days.

But thanks none the less haha

[Sypher]

Thought I remembered it from the cover of an AND1 mixtape or something..

Ooh and that Grayskul album is damn good. I also forgot to mention Sin-O-Matic by Louis Logic.

[Skip2mylou]

Hell yeah Louis Logic has some great albums, no one's mentioned Pharoahe Monch yet or his group Organized Konfusion.

Monch's solo album is a classic (Internal Affairs) and both Organized Konfusion are both very very dope albums.

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schooly-d
daddy fresh
sub-roc
marley marl
chill will
milk d
big l
diverse

I came across a few more.

[LightSwitch]

Talib Kweli
Mos Def
Heiroglyphics/souls of mischeif
del
Kanye west
De La Soul
BlackStar*talib kweli/mos def's group*
common
Jurrasic 5
Dialated Peoples
Kool Keith
A Tribe Called Quest
Q-tip
Atmosphere
Blackaliscious

theres my list, theres allot more, but thats what i listen to as far as hip hop goes for the most part.

[Skip2mylou]

I saw Blackalicious live last year, they do a great live show.

[Sypher]

Originally posted by Skip2mylou
I saw Blackalicious live last year, they do a great live show.

Agreed! I saw them last year too.. everyone singing along with 'Deception' was the best.

[LightSwitch]

Originally posted by Sypher
Agreed! I saw them last year too.. everyone singing along with 'Deception' was the best.

deffietly my favorite song of his.

in december i whent and saw Kanye West. it was one of the best concerts ive been to bar none. stood up and sang everyword the entire time. awesome awesome concert, if you guys ever get a chance to see him id reccomend to.

i also was lucky enough to see talib kweli/common at bumbershoot this past summer:)

[iStereo]

For french hip-hop : Last Prophecy on the iTMS

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enjoi

so you have all these then?

[donkeyman]

Dont forget - along with the ones already mentioned...

Gnarls Barkley (gunna be hot)!!
Jay-Z - ANY ALBUM (Love the unplugged)
Wu-Tang - 36 chambers & forever
Ghostface Killah - Iron Man
Raekwon

Not known for lyrics but super-dooper-beat-maker:
Rahzel - Make the Music 2000 (fun to listen to)

thats all i can think of right now.