View Full Version : White Sony Fontopia MDR-EX70 / 71 Earphones
lucas3735
05-10-2003, 09:23 PM
What is the name of the white version of the Sony Fontopia MDR-EX70LP Earphones?
Thanks
John
:confused:
Kenny
05-10-2003, 09:29 PM
Unfortunately I dont think that the long cord version ('LP') comes in white (only in black). Only the short cord version ('SP') comes in white.
Mypod
05-11-2003, 08:25 PM
http://www.audiocubes.com/
On the front page
I have the Black ones and love them.
I love blasting the music and nobody else but me can hear it
On a train I get sick when I hear idiots and their open cans.
kamj12
05-11-2003, 08:34 PM
I found this in the old forum
free shipping
http://i-shopping4u.com/md_accessary.html
Jester
05-11-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by kamj12
I found this in the old forum
free shipping
http://i-shopping4u.com/md_accessary.html
Has anybody here ordered from this place?
Kenny
05-11-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Jester
Has anybody here ordered from this place?
I have, and so have a couple of others on this board.
Good guy to deal with, and very fast shipping.
Jester
05-11-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Kenny
I have, and so have a couple of others on this board.
Good guy to deal with, and very fast shipping.
Kenny,
Thanks for the info. It is good to know that people from here have ordered and have had no problems.
selcouth
05-12-2003, 01:22 AM
i just ordered some ex71sl's from him.. great ship time and great price :D only had a bit of ear wax on them.. HA just kidding ;) they were brand new and wrapped nice :D
time2switch
05-12-2003, 01:34 AM
Hey... I just got my Ipod (20GB old Ipod) a couple of weeks ago and the supplied Apple earphone suck. I just ordered a new case for my Ipod ... the Marware Sportsuit Convertible in graphite... should be here tomorrow, and earphones are next on my list.
I've heard alot of good things (and some bad) about the MDR-EX70s, and since I can't find them on the Sony site anymore (idots... hehe :rolleyes: ), I want to get a pair of the EX71s in white. They would look sweet with the Ipod.
Anyway, I was just wondering if I should get the EX71s from http://i-shopping4u.com/md_accessary.html , or Audiocubes. Looks like everyone gets theirs from Audiocubes, and I've heard nothing but great things from people who have bought their earphones from them (excellent shipping, etc.). Just being cautious...
yay!! my first post on the new forums... hehe :D
shipname
05-12-2003, 01:46 AM
i've also bought from ishopping, very nice people, i wouldn't recommend buyign from them.... probably carry the sars on your earphones from overseas:D
anyways i dad jsut came back from Hong KOng(he traveled all over china too) couple days ago, nothing happened to him
LikeAFox
05-12-2003, 02:17 AM
Check out eBay here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=ipod+sony&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=
There are several companies which have cheap bids & "Buy It Nows" and charge only $5 shipping. They have good feedback and lots of items for sale. Infact, one of the user names who is selling the EX71 is "i-shopping4u" I assume the same online store that was referred to before. When I finally convince myself to buy the EX71s that is where I will be buying them - off eBay.
Good luck!
Kenny
05-12-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by LikeAFox
Check out eBay here: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&query=ipod+sony&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&BasicSearch=
There are several companies which have cheap bids & "Buy It Nows" and charge only $5 shipping. They have good feedback and lots of items for sale. Infact, one of the user names who is selling the EX71 is "i-shopping4u" I assume the same online store that was referred to before. When I finally convince myself to buy the EX71s that is where I will be buying them - off eBay.
Good luck!
Yep, I bought my EX70s from 'i-shopping4u' on ebay.
Anyways, those EP888SP's are looking tempting... If only they isolated more.
LikeAFox
05-12-2003, 02:36 AM
Yeah, the reason I want the EX71s opposed to the 888sp's is because of isolation and fit. The 888s wouldn't stay in my ear. I need the "in-ear-canal" type headphone for my wierdly shaped ears. The 888s have better sound quality, but if you never listen to any headphones better than the EX71s, then they will sound fine. Once you go and listen to better cans and see what your missing, you will get the urge to upgrade.
So, if you really want the 71s, just buy them and stay away from expensive cans! Thats what I plan on doing -- until I win the lottery! :D
praseodymium
05-12-2003, 11:05 AM
Does anyone know of a dealer in Canada that sells these buds?
Kenny
05-12-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by praseodymium
Does anyone know of a dealer in Canada that sells these buds?
These earbuds are exclusive to Asia. If you're in the Toronto area, you might get lucky if you go down to an electronics store in Pacific mall, but otherwise I doubt it.
I've looked (for these and the eggo's), but they're nowhere to be found.
kamj12
05-12-2003, 12:50 PM
I've actually seen this earphone in pacific mall last november, they sold those like $100 bucks when i converted them to USD. Kinda a ripoff...
praseodymium
05-13-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by kamj12
I've actually seen this earphone in pacific mall last november, they sold those like $100 bucks when i converted them to USD. Kinda a ripoff...
Thanks for the tip. I've learned to be very careful when buying things at Pacific Mall. Not everything is a "deal".
Found a pair of MDR-EX71SL on eBay for roughly $62.00CDN, shipped. Didn't think I could find a much better deal then that. Let's just hope they produce a better sound then my MX-400, are at least more bass.
Kenny
05-13-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by praseodymium
Thanks for the tip. I've learned to be very careful when buying things at Pacific Mall. Not everything is a "deal".
Found a pair of MDR-EX71SL on eBay for roughly $62.00CDN, shipped. Didn't think I could find a much better deal then that. Let's just hope they produce a better sound then my MX-400, are at least more bass.
I'd be careful if I were you. ALL forums that I frequently visit, whether it's this one, the MD community, head-fi, etc... ALL say the Senheisser MX400-500 series definately sound a lot better than these sony's.
praseodymium
05-13-2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Kenny
I'd be careful if I were you. ALL forums that I frequently visit, whether it's this one, the MD community, head-fi, etc... ALL say the Senheisser MX400-500 series definately sound a lot better than these sony's.
Thanks. I do remember reading that.
I was only planning on using these buds in high noise environments, like the comuter train, subway, gym, etc.. I'm willing to sacrifice a little quality in exchange for the isolation and added bass (from what I've read) these buds seem to provide.
Kenny
05-13-2003, 06:12 PM
Well if you're a basshead:D , you'll love the EX70/71's.
These things are VERY subjective. The Senn's are a little better, but at the cost of discomfort after a relatively short time wearing them.
You can significantly improve the sound in the EX70's by plugging the three tiny holes in the back--Samwise convinced me to try it--it's well worth it. The EX70's are not as bad, IMHO, as some make them out to be--I think they're pretty good (considering the price) for an earbud (they don't compare to the Grado SR 60's, but that's a set of "audiophile" quality headphones), and they're fantastic for what you want to use them for--noisy enviroments.
leonthepro
05-13-2003, 07:29 PM
I do like those white sony earphones, but they look a bit weird, a bit big, like they will stick far out of your ear. It looks like two earbuds in one.
Jackonicko
05-13-2003, 08:02 PM
DMT,
As has been inferred, the EX70/71 is great if you haven't been exposed to anything better, or if bass is your thing, and indeed, during the honeymoon period when the sheer isolation afforded by them blinds one to their shortcomings.
But if your ears are big enough for E888s, and you try them, you'll NEVER GO BACK.
PS:
1) All white sony phones are called 'Nude'
2) The EX70 and EX71 are discontinued in the USA, replaced by the EX51 (not available in white, and much cheaper). The EX70 is still easily available in the UK, the EX71 has never been available here.
3) The white EX70 was never a US or UK market item
4) The blue grey EX70 is still easily available
5) The E888 was never available in the UK and has been deleted from the US site, but can still be found. Buy a set now, because you really should have a pair of these....
Originally posted by Jackonicko
<snip>
The EX70 is still easily available in the UK, the EX71 has never been available here.
Well, my local Sony store has the 71's in. Or at least they say they have.:confused:
Jackonicko
05-14-2003, 07:00 AM
That's v interesting, Madpict, cos they're not on the Sony UK site, nor are they in the Sony UK catalogue from which franchisees (did you know that all UK Sony stores, except Baker St, are franchises?) can order.
Perhaps your local store is go-ahead enough to deal direct with Sony Japan, to get the good kit which Sony don't think we impoverished, undiscriminating Brits want.
You'll be telling me they have 888s next.....
Which store is that, anyway?
Cambridge branch - I must go in and check, they're probably getting the 70 and 71 mixed up. And if they do have 888's in stock, I'll buy the lot for you!;)
EDIT - Well, they are definately EX71's - saw the package, read the writing!!! - Sorry no 888's :(
ibons
05-15-2003, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by praseodymium
Thanks for the tip. I've learned to be very careful when buying things at Pacific Mall. Not everything is a "deal".
Found a pair of MDR-EX71SL on eBay for roughly $62.00CDN, shipped. Didn't think I could find a much better deal then that. Let's just hope they produce a better sound then my MX-400, are at least more bass.
well you might want to check out this website:
team digital (http://www.teamdigital.net/store/customer/product.php?productid=360&cat=&page=1)
it only offers the black version but i believe i've seen the white ones on their site before, you could drop them a mail and see if they have it.. at $48 shipped doesn't seem too bad.
Kenny
05-15-2003, 01:15 AM
There's plenty of places to find the EX70/71s... they're actually pretty popular: you could go to audiocubes/hyperjack, minidisco, bluetin, -heck even the sony store carries them now.
But of interesting note is this thread (http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33290). It gives a very accurate review of these earbuds, one you should read if you're considering purchasing these buds.
tavarua88
05-18-2003, 04:32 AM
would you suggest these earphones for workouts? i'm torn whether to get these or not.
selcouth
05-18-2003, 10:32 AM
acutally jacko.. i'm not sure about the 51's replacing the 71's.. i know the 71's replace the 70's.. but i believe they're the current model along side the 51's..
tavarua.. yea i'd say they're pretty good for workouts.. but then again what do you do in a workout? these things isolate pretty well so it could be dangerous if you're going jogging or something like that.. they stay in my ears during most active movements and don't fall out or reposition easily like most earbuds i've tried.. to me, (basically the only headphones i've used are the MDR-7506 studios and these) they sound wonderful.. earwax is an issue for some but if you're a clean person it shouldn't be much a problem.. i'm really happy about these buds..
tavarua88
05-18-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by selcouth
tavarua.. yea i'd say they're pretty good for workouts.. but then again what do you do in a workout? these things isolate pretty well so it could be dangerous if you're going jogging or something like that.. they stay in my ears during most active movements and don't fall out or reposition easily like most earbuds i've tried.. to me, (basically the only headphones i've used are the MDR-7506 studios and these) they sound wonderful.. earwax is an issue for some but if you're a clean person it shouldn't be much a problem.. i'm really happy about these buds..
ok cool, i just hate the jerks that have to drop the weights just to show off to everyone in the weightroom how big they are. i read that too much movement with these would magnify the noise from your movement.
Jackonicko
05-18-2003, 06:29 PM
I'm afraid that the EX51 are the only in the ear Fontopia's left on Sony's US website. Stores may still have the EX71 (and the 70 and 888) but these are officially deleted from the US range. I haven't checked to see if they're current in Japan. But the EX51s are now Sony US's most expensive, highest specified earbuds, and as such are the 70/71's de facto replacement.
davebach172
05-19-2003, 11:46 AM
@MadPict
Are you sure the Cambridge Sony store has the white ones in stock?? how cool is that! - I'll have to harass one of my mates to pick me up a pair - in the meantime, I'll pop into my baker street branch and see what they can offer me.
I've got a pair of the black ones and they're great - especially for the tube, but everyone in London wears the apple buds so I don't get to join in the "I've got an ipod" fun! (my gf is despairing already - I dont think I should leave her in the same room as MY ipod :D
Lt_Core
05-19-2003, 06:05 PM
Are the EX71's smaller than the Senn MX500's? I had the Senn's for 2 days and they wouldn't stay in my ears. I have very small ears and have yet to find an earbud that fits properly.
Kenny
05-19-2003, 06:12 PM
The EX71/70's come with three pairs of rubber inserts (small, medium, large). So I'd imagine the small size would be the one you'd use.
Ignodium
05-19-2003, 08:38 PM
Will I like these headphones if I typically use Ministry of Sound IXOS dj1003 headphones (that is, if anyone is fimiliar with these headphones. They are not big high end, but much better than most headphones, they cost under a hundred, but around 75 or something). I like bass, I used to use these headphones with my sony discman on the MB setting, which is not the highest bass, but its some bass. I like the sound of these headphones, but I am afraid that I will not like the quality once I get them.
leonthepro
05-20-2003, 06:00 AM
I just got my white EX71SL sent in from Hong Kong for 30 ukpounds inc shipping, on ebay.
Check this seller out:
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=i-shopping4u
Very quick postage (ordered on friday, arrived on tuesday). And the headphones cost me almost half the price as the black ones do in England!!
I've been comparing them to the Sennheiser mx500:
I've read that the EX70s are very bassy. I did not find this at all, most of the music I listen to is very bassy, the EX71s feel very digital/electrical if u know what i mean? the bass is good but ceartinly not the valve sound system. I prefer the bass on the mx500s, as it's a bit deeper. You get no shake with the EX71s.
The EX70's overally have better sound quality than the mx500's in my opinion, simply because they are louder.
As for comfort, the EX70's are a little strange. They are quite snug and comfortable, but go right in your ear, which is brilliant for blocking out background noise, but I'm suspecting that it will get a bit irritating sometimes. I swapped the different earbud sizes several times, but eventually stuck to the original medium ones. I first put these headphones on after a shower, which was a little weird, they feel like they completely block out your ears (probably what they're supposed to do).
I'm going to keep my old ipod headphones simply because sometimes I dont want things stuck right in my ear.
But overall I'm very satisfied, v.nice headphone. Brill service from the man on ebay. I now have probably one of the few only pairs in the UK. That always makes me happy.
praseodymium
05-20-2003, 03:16 PM
Wow, that's remarkable. Three days to get from Hong Kong to England, for $5USD? I wonder how long it'll take for me to get mine in Toronto? I ordered on Wednesday afternoon.
Sam Williams
05-20-2003, 04:09 PM
I received my MDR-EX71SLs today, having enjoyed the '70s for three years or so already. The bad news is that the '71s suffer from precisely the same bass-heaviness problem as the '70s. The good news is that the cure is exactly the same: a bit of good ol' Blu-Tack over the external ports! Beautiful... With the modded '71s and the iSkin, my iPod finally looks and sounds how it should have out of the box. Very happy camper here.
Sam
PS. I also bought from Hong Kong for US$5 shipping, total cost UK?30. There are some great vendors out there in HK and operating on eBay; no reason not to make use of them!
LikeAFox
05-20-2003, 07:47 PM
Yeah, I just bought my EX71s from the ishopping4u guy on eBay. He said he sent them out and so I will see how long it takes and post my opinion once they get here. I don't really have any good headphones to compare them to, so my opinion of the 71s will be purely a first time experience. Can't wait!
Sam Williams
05-20-2003, 07:53 PM
Good call, Scott - hope you like them! I should add that Sony have made a couple of small but very welcome changes from the '70s to the '71s, including changing the materials from which the rubbery grommet piece, and the rest of the bud, are made. They're even more comfortable than the '70s, which is amazing!
leonthepro
05-21-2003, 10:29 AM
I think I'm missing something here.
I really can't understand how the 71s have a bass problem. The bass seems to be quite quiet for me, compared to other headphones anyway.
I was actually hoping for really bassy headphones which is one of the reasons why I got them. But I find myself pushing them round in different positions in my ear (they stay in really well) until I get the most bass coming through.
madricka
05-21-2003, 01:55 PM
You can get these earbuds at the Sony Stores in Canada. I saw them the other day at the store in Scarborough Town Centre for $80 (*grr*). Cheaper to buy them online (eBay or other).
cheers
madricka
05-21-2003, 02:02 PM
You can get these earbuds at the Sony Stores in Canada. I saw them the other day at the store in Scarborough Town Centre for $80 (*grr*). Cheaper to buy them online (eBay or other).
cheers
burnbomb
05-22-2003, 12:16 AM
Do you get free shipping on the white 71's from i-shopping 4 U to Canada? Or is it only to the States?
tavarua88
05-22-2003, 02:20 AM
the cheapest i've found is 46.50 shipped from the US. it's through a seller at ebay. can anyone find it cheaper?
Kenny
05-22-2003, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by burnbomb
Do you get free shipping on the white 71's from i-shopping 4 U to Canada? Or is it only to the States?
I've ordered from him quite a while ago, and shipping is still $5.
Originally posted by davebach172
@MadPict
Are you sure the Cambridge Sony store has the white ones in stock?? how cool is that! - I'll have to harass one of my mates to pick me up a pair - in the meantime, I'll pop into my baker street branch and see what they can offer me.
I've got a pair of the black ones and they're great - especially for the tube, but everyone in London wears the apple buds so I don't get to join in the "I've got an ipod" fun! (my gf is despairing already - I dont think I should leave her in the same room as MY ipod :D
@davebach172
I didn't say they had the white versions - they are the black ones. The EX71's now come with a short lead for use with a remote.
You will probably have to get them from i-shopping4u - I did and I would use them again.
PSSorry for the slow reply - I am away from home just now:D
davebach172
05-22-2003, 11:30 AM
@MadPict
No worries! - I'm not going to get a pair just yet. Spending my money on another ipod for the girlfriend - just can't get enough of them there ipods!!!
krazy4mac
05-24-2003, 06:18 PM
what kind of earbuds would you recomend for an everyday use. I want a pair that are decent and not to much money, no more than $40. Can someone tell me which one are good for everyday usage: bus, school, air plane ,etc
Kenny
05-24-2003, 08:18 PM
If the EX71s are too much money, the best bet would be to go with either:
(best sounding to worst sounding)
1. Koss KCS35 (clip on earphones)
2. Koss PortaPros (headphones)
3. Koss KCS50 (clip on earphones)
for earbuds (best to worst)
1. Sennheiser MX400/500
Mind you, ALL above units SOUND BETTER than the Sony EX70/71s, but dont have the isolation that the sony's have.
And also take note that the Senns arent the most comfortable for some people, since they only come in one size.
krazy4mac
05-24-2003, 09:55 PM
where might i find these Koss earbuds at ? LMk thanks
bosshogg
05-26-2003, 09:49 PM
http://www.frailart.net/members/bosshogg/ex711.jpg
http://www.frailart.net/members/bosshogg/ex712.jpg
http://www.frailart.net/members/bosshogg/ex713.jpg
less ambient noise which is a plus, and they sound soo much better than the stock apple ones.
thanks to my cousin brian who ordered 2 pair from hong kong ;)
bkafrick
05-26-2003, 10:10 PM
I just placed an order yesterday for a pair...
Perhaps they are not the "best" earphones out there on the market, but they do seem to be the best WHITE earphones out there...
...and you gotta keep with the white theme if you're going to own an iPod...
Brett
A thread already exists for these earphones here (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=138).
Please read the iPodlounge Forum Tips (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7) before posting - duplicating posts splits up discussions and makes following them harder.
I am moving/merging this thread.
leonthepro
05-28-2003, 07:22 PM
I have just decided that althought the ex71s are very nice and give good sound quality cos theyre so deep in your ear. They are the most unsociable headphone available:
Firstly, there are three different sizes, you obviously choose the one that fits you the best. It then becomes uncomfortable for 2/3rds of the other people who try them on.
They also make it incredibly diffficult to hear stuff around you, even when you pause the music, they're like an earplug, blocking everything out, you have to take them off. So it's either music or no music, not a bit of both.
ipodtodd
05-29-2003, 12:38 AM
I just received by ex71's yesterday from ishopping 4 u on ebay. Took 10 days to get to me in the US (I ordered on a saturday and there was the memorial day holiday). I'm very pleased with them so far. They aren't to bassy at all for me. With the apple earphones I was using the hip hop eq setting, I turned the eq off for the ex71's and they sound just how I want them too. $45 plus $5 shipping is a pretty good deal. I'm very happy with my purchase.
monkeymd
05-31-2003, 04:15 PM
Okay, so I don't really like heart pounding bass (and most of my songs don't require it) but I like the idea of isolating myself from outside sounds and when I travel via plane it would be nice to have earphones that exclude plane sounds a bit more. By the way, plane engine noises (your typical 747, dc-10, 737, etc) are excluded more than my $9 sony earphones (or ipod buds) right? Or are they magnified? I'm just tired of having to carry my hooded sweatshirt with ties to smoosh my $9 earphones to the side of my head to get decent sound (kind of hurts to do that after a 9 hour flight).
back on task...
I listen to classical, pop/rock, disney and other cartoon soundtracks (I'm a freak, I'm sorry but those cute tunes can be fun to listen to once in a blue moon), broadway musical soundtracks (did I mention I'm criminally insane), alternative, jazz, oldies, eminem. In other words, bass is not an issue for me. I've heard that mid range sucks unless you burn these in (will plugging it into my home stereo tuned into an FM station for 24 hours work?). So given my listening tastes (i know, i need help) and my desire to shut out the world around me, do you think these would work fine?
It just seems like most of the people here are used to the $100+ earphones and so compared to those, I can see how these may suck. Is there anyone who went from $9 earphones to these and found the experience pleasurable?
My other question is about ishopping4u...I've sent these people 4 emails (kept thinking of new questions) over the past 7 days and no response at all! Since many of you have bought from them, how fast was the purchase step since if I can't even get answers to simple questions, I fear what happens during purchasing or worse, if I need to send them back because they're defective and I can't get in contact with them!
I use my EX70SL's on flights all the time - the provide good insulation from the hubbub of a flight just fine. I listen to everything from smooth jazz to heavy rock and they give me a good spectrum of sound for my old ears.
i-shopping4u is where I got them from and had good response to emails when I had a problem with Paypal and the initial setting up of an account. Ringo Lau was the guy I dealt with for my purchase and he was very good to deal with.
Make sure you are dealing with the Hong Kong i-shopping4u (http://www.i-shopping4u.com/) and not the Korean one (I think it is - note the *-* between the *i* and *shopping*).
monkeymd
05-31-2003, 05:30 PM
yep, same place...I even tried to email them at the email address listed under the repairs/warranty section on their FAQ page. I'm glad to hear that they are good for other music types besides bass happy tunes. I'm hoping to hear from them by monday. By the way, did you use cs@i-shopping4u.com or hypjack@skyblue.ocn.ne.jp to get in contact with this guy? I did just realize that I sent my first email via ebay and that address is different than the one I use to send the other emails so maybe there's confusion there (though on ebay he does say that emails sometimes don't get to him because of a filter in his email program...
didn't realize there was a korean site but just visited it and since I can't read it at all, i was definitely at the same site
i swear waiting for my ipod from dell has made me less patient especially since they pushed the ship date back a whole 'nother week.
monkeymd
05-31-2003, 10:59 PM
ooh, another question about the mdr-ex71sl...compared to the buds that ship with the ipod, do you find that you need to turn up the volume to get the same sound level on the same song? I just read reviews elsewhere and they say that the volume on these is lacking because most devices don't have the power to drive the earphones and so some sounds are lost. I was hoping that I would require a lower volume setting if I bought these since if they don't sound too loud on terra firma, will I hear them when I have the unfortunate chance of sitting on the plane engine (you know which seats I'm referring to). I know you said that you've used them no probs on a plane but I just don't know if these reviews are by people who have absolute perfect hearing, pitch, etc and usually use $100+ earphones (I'd hate to misplace those) or if they're by regular janes like me who use cheapos but are thinking of venturing beyond $9.99. Oh so confusing. I wish there was a site that only had reviews by people in my place who have never used spendy stuff. Okay, I'll say it, I wish I could try them out then buy but that's not very sanitary for earbuds. Dang, I guess I should just buy them, burn them in for a day, then listen. The i-shopping site says there's 7 day trial period and if worse comes to worse, there's always ebay or just listing them on sites like these. le sigh...well, since dell has delayed shipping yet another 4 days (2 changes in 24 hours...me suspects i'll be lucky to get them before 2004 at this rate of delays..i'm oh so tired of waiting)
To my 46, going on 47, year old ears they are fine. They are good for flights and have sat near the wing with no problems. I usually run them at 60% volume in most situations as the isolation effect of the plugs cuts out most ambient noise.
My hearing is still pretty good, and at times too finicky for my own good, so I won't use something that makes my music sound awful. But if you read the threads on earphones on the old forum you will soon realise that one person may love the sound of the Sony's yet another will slag it off.
It is all down to the individual.
If you get them and hate them I'm sure you will soon have a taker if you put them on eBay!
HTH
Bob
monkeymd
06-02-2003, 02:48 PM
Just so I know whether or not this is normal but I placed my order at the i-shopping website at 8 this morning and on the final page it said an email with my receipt was being sent to me. 4 hours later still no email (which i view as a sort of order confirmation). Is this usual for this site? I gave up waiting for the responses to my emails with questions since most of the posters here seemed to have no problems with this person but seriously, do I need to send carrier pigeons to get this person to respond to me?!?
Don't forget the time difference - Hong Kong is asleep when you are awake!!
monkeymd
06-02-2003, 06:08 PM
otay...I just figured they had an automated system like other online retailers. I'm glad to hear that my order isn't lost in the internet black hole. Still doesn't explain the lack of responses to my emails last week unless there's only person who runs this deal and he went on a vacation.
bkafrick
06-03-2003, 12:02 AM
I just received my MDR-ex71's from i-shopping4u.com. I ordered them on Memorial Day, and received them today (June 2), so they took 7 days to ship from Hong Kong... pretty good I think.
Ringo Lau was great to deal with - easy with paypal, responded to e-mail inquiries, etc. I would def. recommend this company again.
Brett
monkeymd
06-03-2003, 01:06 AM
How did you get him to respond to your emails? It's been over 7 days since my first email and still no response! I ordered at 8 am and still no email with a copy of my receipt nor any info on completing the transaction via paypal...I know there's the time diff but isn't it daytime now (11pm central time)?!?
i should add that on the site it says a series a 3 emails regarding my order will be sent. 1 immediate after the order is placed (never received it); 2. 12-24 hours after order was placed (never received it); 3. when order shipped (need I really comment)
I'm sorry if I'm impatient but the fact that I haven't even received email #1 is a bit concerning. So I emailed yet another email address I found on the site (help@i-shopping...) and who knows, maybe I'll get a response finally! Perhaps I'm better off spending more by ordering from audiocubes and cancelling this cheaper cost order from i-shopping4U.
Update: Emailing them about payment at the email I listed here apparently was the secret to getting a response. Almost 30 minutes later, I got a response and in a few short days, I'll have my sony's
time2switch
06-03-2003, 04:59 PM
Did you guys just buy them off of Ebay or goto i-shopping4u.com? What about the comparison between them and www.audiocubes.com ?
I want a pair as well, but my credit card is maxed out.. hehe... (stupid technical gadgets.... j/k)
bkafrick
06-03-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by monkeymd
How did you get him to respond to your emails? It's been over 7 days since my first email and still no response! I ordered at 8 am and still no email with a copy of my receipt nor any info on completing the transaction via paypal...I know there's the time diff but isn't it daytime now (11pm central time)?!?
email:
order@i-shopping4u.com
Got my responses within 1 day on each of my emails...
Brett
rebel99
06-03-2003, 09:13 PM
I ordered mine from audiocubes.com using PayPal. I ordered on Monday, May 26 and received them on May 31. Great service.
PaulS
06-05-2003, 09:46 PM
I am interested in the SONY MDR-EX71SL earbuds because the cord is shorter and since I use the remote, this will cut down on all that cord. I would love to hear any pros or cons about them.
rebel99
06-05-2003, 10:52 PM
I just got mine a few days ago and like them so far. They really block out outside noise! I was in a noisy fast-food place today and could only hear my music. When I took them out to place my order, I was surprised to hear how loud it was in there! However, the downside is that they're not really safe to use while riding a bike.
The EX70/71's have been more than adequately discussed on this new forum and the old forum. Please read them for opinions.
I am merging this with the existing EX70/71 thread.
monkeymd
06-07-2003, 03:46 PM
Hey, just curious about the shipping process from i-shopping4u. I got the standard free shipping and was wondering if they ever sent any of you a tracking number. On their site it says only the spendy items get tracking numbers but when they talk about the emails you get, they mention a tracking number for the 3rd email. I know it will take at least a week but I'm OCD about tracking packages (mostly so I can plan to be home on the day it will arrive and if it's ups, i stay home in the afternoon and in the morning for fedex). Now all I know is that I was promised that my order would be sent out the morning of the 4th or 5th (I can't tell which from the date stamp on the email). I guess that little kid waiting for christmas day impatience was never driven out of me. I'm so excited i think i'm going to have a heart attack.
You may find it posted through your letterbox - It's only a small jiffy bag.....
bkafrick
06-07-2003, 06:35 PM
Yeah, the standard shipping from i-shopping4u arrives via regular mail, as its shipped via International AirMail. I emailed the guy and he said because of this there is no tracking number. Sorry.
Brett
monkeymd
06-07-2003, 07:10 PM
okie...just as I thought. My mailman is pretty good about delivering packages that don't fit in my box (it's one of those narrow types used at apartment buildings). Well at least the USPS delivers 6 days a week instead of lame-o UPS and FedEX (unless you pay the big bucks that is) and they came during both tropical storms/cat 1 hurricanes last year...they're not kidding about not letting the weather stop them.
gozorak
06-08-2003, 04:32 PM
I ordered mine from Audiocubes and received them in less than a week all the way from Japan. I live in Virginia so it was very nice to get them so quickly for such a nice price. Not having ever used this type of earphone I didnt know that you puched these babys all the way into your ear canal. I didnt at first. I just hung them in my ears and the sound was really weak and thin. Then I figured it all out and now I love them. They come with the earphones themsleves along with 3 sizes(small, medium, and large) of rubber ear canal protectors that are easily swapped. An extension cord, and a small fleece like baggy with drawstring to hold everything. The earphones by themselves are not long enough to use. You are going to have to use the extension cord. The iPods remote extension being perfect. You dont have all of that extra cord hanging around like you do when using the original iPod earplugs with the remote extension.
bkafrick
06-08-2003, 10:07 PM
I agree... I think they have great sound, and a great application... My question is....... Why do we have to buy them from Asia? You'd think Sony would have a good market here in the USA for a nice set of earphones...
Brett
gozorak
06-08-2003, 10:37 PM
I think thats what I heard from someone. That the black MDR's are available here in the US but the whites only in Asia. Thats what I hear. True or not I dont know.
monkeymd
06-09-2003, 11:14 AM
I've seen a bunch of us sites (goodguys, a few on yahoo shopping searches) and they only sell the black as indicated above and i asked about the warranty and they assured me it was a us warranty (unlike orders from audiocubes and ishoppping4u) but said that they wouldn't be getting any white ones. But hey sony japan is always making new stuff that debuts in japan and a few make it out to the us and beyond (via sony not places that sell imports). But then again, what percentage of US made things make it out to other countries...besides the nastiness of fastfood restaurants (leave it to the US to spread unhealthy things to others)
gozorak
06-09-2003, 11:51 AM
Why are some so offended by Mcdonalds? I dont care for McDonalds so I dont eat there. Despite this fact I neither hate McDonalds or its customers many of whom are no doubt kids who wish only for a Happy Meal as I did as a kid. I guess some folks are a bit uptight about their own failings that they want to blame McDonalds, or Coca-Cola, or Wal-Mart or in a larger sense America itself for their misery. Correct me if I'm wrong but are the French, Germans, Japanese, Chinese, whomever forced to frequent places like McDonalds, KFC, and EuroDisney? I dont think so.
And by the way I still Love the MDR's even though they are available only in Japan.
You can get the white EX's from audiocubes--I ordered mine online from them, had them in about 4 or 5 days--pretty amazing
considering they're based in Hong Kong...
monkeymd
06-09-2003, 11:43 PM
sheesh gozorak, didn't mean to incite such fury inside you! I was simply having a little fun...but you're right, people will go to extremes to find excuses for their situations before accepting their own hand in their current situation (like the dummy who sued mcdonalds for not telling people their food was addictive and bad for his health...or whatever stupid claim it was trying to mimic the lawsuit against cigarette companies and failing miserably). I assure you I'm in no misery and what little I am not too happy about I know I can do something about if I would commit to make the appropriate changes in my life...and no I don't blame mcdonald's or walmart for those minor imperfections. relax and enjoy your MDRs
skippy
06-10-2003, 01:14 AM
Well i just ordered these buds from i-shopping4u on eBay. I'll let you know how it goes.
gozorak
06-10-2003, 06:03 AM
it was just the Imperialist/Capitalist pig inside of me coming to the fore.
And I still love the MDR's
I just ordered these headphones, how should I "burn" them in? how long does it take?
Burning in is a controversial thing--I think it makes a difference; others don't agree with this for earbuds (I think most people however would agree that it makes a difference for headphones).
There are various ways to do it; the way I've done it in the past is to turn the volume to slightly higher than what you would comfortably be able to listen to for 24 hours straight.
And, IMHO, plugging the three holes on the back of the EX's significantly improves their sound...
rebel99
06-10-2003, 07:42 PM
What material do you use to plug the holes on the EX71s?
Some use Blu-tack or something similar--I tried this, as it's reversible, liked the effect so much I actually (carefully) super glued the holes shut permanently--it took multiple careful applications, but it did the trick...
Ok, I just got my Shure E2's for $85.00--there is no comparison between these and the EX70's. If you can afford the extra dough, the E2's are DEFINITELY worth it for portable earphones--unbelievable sound, and incredible isolation (I will use them mainly in the gym to replace my EX's.).
I like the EX's, and have defended them wholeheartedly in the past, but they simply aren't in the same league as the E2's--the E'2s are significanlty more transparent, the treble is much brighter, and the bass is much clearer (although the E2's are a little light in bass--they are the earphone equivalent of Grado SR60's IMHO--if you like the Grado's, you'll love the E2's for portable use).
monkeymd
06-12-2003, 12:13 PM
well, yeah, I should hope for the extra $35 they work better than the EXs...just like the $$$ etymotics are said to work better...hmmm, I'd be concerned as a consumer if I paid more for a product that works the same as something cheaper. In fact, please don't tell me if there is something cheaper than the EXs that are identical in look and functionality (ie in the ear) since the less I know, the happier I'll be in this respect. Enjoy your music!
Sometimes things are worth the extra money, sometimes not--the E2's, IMHO, definitely are. The best overall value? Grado SR 60's, at $69.00, which sound better than some $200.00 set of cans--but they are not for portable listening. So, $35.00 extra does not necessarily guarantee a major impovement in quality, but in this case, IMHO, it does. Not trying to stomp your enthusiasm for the EX's, just trying to give you some alternatives...
monkeymd
06-12-2003, 07:19 PM
Don't worry, enthusiasm not stomped. Thanks for the info on non-portable devices though. I bet those would work great with my friend's digital piano. His headset he currently has definitely need to be replaced since turning your head a few degrees, causes sound to cut out or crackle. If it weren't for the fact that he likes to play early in the morning, headsets wouldn't be necessary but not everyone enjoys being woken up at 7 am...yes, we're students - anything before 9 am is too early but he's an exception
speaking of enthusiasm, my MDRs just arrived! They're so teeny! I know they blow up pictures online but I didn't expect them to be quite this small. I love them though. They definitely fit my teeny ears better than the apple earbuds. I also discovered that my inability to hit certain pitches is amplified with these in :p
jasperstory
06-12-2003, 07:50 PM
does anybody know how these compare with the B&O a8s?
they are almost as cheap as the ex71s plus look more comforatble and supposedly have a more complete sound.
and ####... they look mighty fine
Kenny
06-13-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by jasperstory
does anybody know how these compare with the B&O a8s?
they are almost as cheap as the ex71s plus look more comforatble and supposedly have a more complete sound.
and ####... they look mighty fine
Well, the A8s do look expensive at least. Too bad they sound terrible. Tried them once, and didnt like it (definately not worth the money). Plus, most of the reviews I've read about them are pretty negative also.
That being said however, they probably have better sound quality than the Sony EX71s. Really, the only thing positive I can say about the sony's are the isolation... the sound is just so ####ed muddy.
JohnnyDingus
06-15-2003, 05:57 PM
If you want the best iPod experience you can get, then GET the ultimate setup for your iPod. I am using a "Headroom Airhead" headphone amp chained to my iPod with the Etymotic ER-6 earbuds. These earbuds give 15-20 db of isolation from outside sounds and it really seems like the music is literally inside your head.:D. IMHO the Ec2's are thin in comparison to the ER-6's. I tried them and took them back 30 min. after I bought them. They are way to thin for me, which is my own personal opinion for what that is worth. The headroom carries the largest selection of headphones for audiophiles I have seen yet. Here is a link to The HeadRoom site:
http://headroom.headphone.com/
I also use their iPod gearbag which holds the amp and iPod as one unit. This bag is available for the older or the new iPod and it works beautifully.
Peace!
shipname
06-15-2003, 06:53 PM
i have the a8s for about 8 months now, i love them, i don't know why they suck, but the sound is awesome, it could compare to my grado sr225s, a8s are better than 888lp, ex70s, i also have the erp4s(spelling?) but i don't use them much since they don't stay in my ear, the a8s don't move no matter how fast i run
macmonster
06-16-2003, 09:37 AM
Received my Sony MDR-EX71SL white "Stereo Ear Receiver" (as noted on packaging) from Audiocubes. Very good shipping. Received in less than a week although tracking showed them still at JFK they actually arrived at my office. USPS was probably the issue there. Their tracking is bad.
I really like the sound and fit; especially, when in bed. No complaints at all. I have several co-workers with iPods and they want them now!
Audiocubes gets a big thumbs up.
skippy
06-16-2003, 02:24 PM
I received my EX71SLs from i-shopping4u today. Pretty fast shipping from Hong Kong. I'll definitely be leaving him positive feedback. I'm using the smallest rubber things and they fit pretty comfortably in my ears. I'm definitely satisfied with the sound quality. Not as good as my cans but then I didn't expect them to be. These will be ideal for when i'm not at home. And they look great!
i got mine from audiocubes today, quick shipping considering its all the way from japan.
took exactly one week to get them. ordered last monday, got them today. I live in Los Angeles.
great headphones, really happy....trying to get use to them though...will take a few days.
ambika
06-21-2003, 01:26 AM
Did everyone that ordered from audiocubes.com use normal shipping? I just ordered a pair a few days ago and am wondering when they'll arrive.
I probably should have done a bit more research --- I have little ears and like to fall asleep with headphones, can anyone tell me if these will be comfortable? (well, speculate how comfortable, I know how subjective the answer to this question is) ... I'm also pretty picky as far as sound quality goes. I guess I'll just have to rely on luck to see if I like these. I do generally like Sony products though.
ambika, you made a great choice on those headphones.
and yes, there is only one type of shipping with audiocubes...
I ordered Monday..and got it in mail the next monday. 7 days. I live in Los Angeles.
monkeymd
06-25-2003, 12:05 AM
I just got back from my trip to vegas (oh...didn't win enough to pay for the trip :( ) and the sony's were excellent! I doubted their ability to block out the airline noise but they actually worked really well in that environment.
I got mine from I-shopping. I had questions that I wanted answers to before I bought and while post sale questions were answered, I had to find the email address (payment problem email address) that would get a response since all my presale questions were never answered and I wanted these for my trip. Audiocubes was much better about presale questions but the price was better with i-shopping so I took the chance that things would proceed smoothly.
celina
06-26-2003, 03:07 PM
I have the Sony MDR-EX70SL earphones - is there a big reason to upgrade to the newer (MDR-EX71SL) model?
Also, can anybody post pictures of the Sony MDR-EX71SL case? I read the description on audiocubes.com and it sounds like it could have changed a little bit...
red1996
06-26-2003, 03:41 PM
Is there somewhere you can buy replacement rubber parts for the ex71's? They just seem somewhat flimsy and am fairly sure they could tear easily.
Jackonicko
06-26-2003, 06:55 PM
Just been given a pair of EX71s. There's really very little difference in sound quality compared to the dreadful EX70, in my opinion, however. They are perhaps a tad 'brighter' and a tad less muddy, but after the E888 they really are poor, turning cymbals (for example) into indistinct hiss, and turning subtle bass tones into a simple but powerful thump. I'll use them if I'm travelling by bus/train/tube/plane though, cos the isolation is great.
Originally posted by red1996
Is there somewhere you can buy replacement rubber parts for the ex71's? They just seem somewhat flimsy and am fairly sure they could tear easily.
They do last some time - mine are about a year old by now. Just treat them properly (as you would anything you stick into your ear) and they should last. You may be able to get replacements from Sony.
Anyone?
mikey
06-29-2003, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by red1996
Is there somewhere you can buy replacement rubber parts for the ex71's? They just seem somewhat flimsy and am fairly sure they could tear easily.
I've also been looking for replacements for the rubber parts (also worried about them getting damaged) in Japan and have had no luck. If any place had replacements for a sony product I would think it would be Japan but there has been no sign of them in any of the major electronics stores in the Tokyo area and they carry just about anything you would ever need electronics wise in them. I'll post if they turn up but it doesn't look promising.
I went through this awhile back (I've switched to Shure E2s recently, which I would wholeheartedly recommend), and couldn't find any replacement sleeves for the EX's..
Bob is pretty handy with duct tape though, I wouldn't be surprised if he manages to fashion something and mass produce it...
LOL!
Yep Chris, with all this surplus Duct Tape about now I have plenty of material to run tests on!! ;)
Does that mean more duct tape pictures? Man I miss those...
Chris,
Just for you ;)
The iDuct Deep Aural Director v1
mikey
06-30-2003, 11:26 AM
wow...saw the ex71 rubber part replacement at audiocubes.com, but those just don't compare to the duct tape. Nice work.
LMAO!!!
Nice work Bob, I knew if anyone could do it, it would be you...If you need any help marketing those, just let me know (they look more comfortable than the apple buds).
Now, how about a duct tape Lamborghini Diablo Roadster? I'll make it easy for you--you can make it grey....
time2switch
06-30-2003, 07:11 PM
I've been wanting the EX71s for awhile now... major credit card bills to pay off first... :) I think i'll order them tonight through Audiocubes. I've heard nothing but good things about them, and my regular sony earbuds (I'm using ones that came with my older Discman) keep falling out of my ears when I workout. Hopefully the 71s will be more comfy, and provide better sound.
piece
Audiocubes is great--ordered a pair there and got them quickly.
But, I'd still recommend paying the extra money and getting the Shure E2's for $85.00 (includes shipping, you can get them for $80.00 if you can find a local vendor. They are significantly more expensive than the EX's, but worth every penny. But if you don't want to pay the extra dough, the EX's are a reasonable alternative). If you go the EX route, plug the three holes in back--it significantly improves the sound.
Jackonicko
06-30-2003, 07:46 PM
Or Sony E888s, cos the EX71s are muddy and crappy, hissy and distorted
But E888's aren't available anymore are they?
Jackonicko
06-30-2003, 08:21 PM
Depends where in the States you are, I think. Still easy to find in LA I understand
time2switch
07-02-2003, 01:53 PM
Do the E888 come in LP or SP (long cord or short cord)??
I want to know because the EX71SP's cord would fit perfectly with the Ipod's remote.
Trying to make a decision :)
Kenny
07-02-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by time2switch
Do the E888 come in LP or SP (long cord or short cord)??
I want to know because the EX71SP's cord would fit perfectly with the Ipod's remote.
Trying to make a decision :)
they come in both.
SP = short cord (with an added extension)
LP = long cord
ZoidbergD
07-03-2003, 09:54 PM
Judging from reading these nine pages, the EX71 are both really good and horrible at the same time. I just ordered my pair, so I'll be able to make my own conclusion when they arrive.
I'm afraid the EX70/71 is either a love it or hate it product.
I personally like them - comfortable to wear over prolonged periods and good sound with good isolation.
There are better 'phones out there but for the price these are pretty good.
If you want some more views there are 16 pages here (http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/dennx/index.cgi?board=ipodgear&action=display&num=1030233203) and if that isn't enough then trawl through the 38 pages in the "Gear" section (http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/dennx/index.cgi?board=ipodgear) over on the old forum!!! ;)
Jackonicko
07-04-2003, 07:41 AM
Or even a love them AND loathe them product.
You love them for their compact size, sound isolation, heavy bass, and clever design, and because they are just right for travelling on public transport, where you don't want to inflict your noise on your neighbours.
You loathe them for their inadequate highs, muddy tone, and crude and over-heavy bass.
"You loathe them for their inadequate highs, muddy tone, and crude and over-heavy bass."
But I don't find this problem with them Jacko. I fully accept that you don't like the sound, but that must be down to your own hearing characteristics? Just as I cannot attribute the above criticism to them. It's a personal thing.
As with everything about us, vision, smell, touch, taste and hearing, we are all different, and who is to say who is right? An Audiologist maybe?
You may like tripe but it makes me gag! :D
So, can we accept that some of us find the EX70's fine and others dislike their sound?
:)
Ok, I like them...I don't love them (I used to, but now I love my Shure E2's. My relationship with my EX's is now strictly platonic at this point).
But I do think the EX's are a good earbud for the price. BUT I think the Shure E2's are well worth the extra thirty dollars (Personally I think they are a better value than the EX's for what you get) if you can afford it--if you're on a tight budget, and you're looking for earbuds that offer decent sound, and very good isolation, the EX's are a very good choice.
Jackonicko
07-04-2003, 12:05 PM
Sorry Madpict! It's just that I hate them with a renewed passion. I thought: "Perhaps the EX70 is OK really, perhaps it's just mine? Loads of people like them, after all." and weakened by this thought, bought a pair of EX71s.
They are just as bad, and just as great....
Just my opinion, of course, but many of us find them horrid, just as many of you lot love 'em.
Jacko,
No problemo - as I say we're all different. I'm still putting Ety's on my Xmas list - it worked for Tom!!!;)
MusikMinded
07-05-2003, 04:34 AM
are these EX71s really that cofortable? cause..they dont look it. it says you have to shove 'em all the way in your ear, and well that doesnt sound too comfortable. im kinda stuck between the ex71 and the e888.
Could I wear Apple earbuds (or any other make earbud) for 8 hrs - I doubt it, but the EX70's have been worn for a full eight hours on a flight.
They are comfortable, but I am used to using noise suppressing earplugs everyday so I don't notice them really.
To find out if they are for you, buy a pair of earplugs and wear them for a day. If you can stand having them in your ears then you should be happy with the Sony's.
Yep, the EX's are very comfortable--actually one of their major upsides..
m.r.m.
07-05-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by MadPict
Jacko,
No problemo - as I say we're all different. I'm still putting Ety's on my Xmas list - it worked for Tom!!!;)
i don?t celebrate christmas, so i?ll put them on my i can?t justify the senseless spending of my nonexisting moolah on this piece of gagetery, but i?d like to have them nonetheless list. :( :D
actually i wonder which are better shure e2?s or those ety isolater e-6 thingys. i think i?d be able to afford ("haha dream on little man" <--- brain) these rather than the ety er-4p.
mrm: Check this thread out--scroll down to Tonicboys post:
http://ipodlounge.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3779
Sounding like a broken record here, but the Shure's are fantastic--IMHO the earbud of choice if you're going to be doing any activity. Won't argue the Ety4's are better for quiet listening, but for $80.00, you can't beat the Shure's..
m.r.m.
07-08-2003, 04:56 PM
thanks bunches, chris! :)
two sites i found for further reviews on them shure?s. joi ito?s web (http://joi.ito.com/archives/2003/01/30/shure_e2c_the_best_headphones_ive_ever_used.html) & hometheater (http://hometheater.about.com/cs/headphones/gr/aashuree2c.htm).
Tekron
07-22-2003, 11:33 PM
I am planning on purchasing either one of these for my iPod in the near future.
Question: Are the E2c's actally worth the extra ~$40 for quality and sound over the EX71's?
Now I know the E2c's are most likely better than the EX71's because of user raves on this board and because "you get what you pay for." But, I just really want to know if it's worth the extra wad of cash?
Thanks in advance!
Tekron
07-23-2003, 03:16 AM
Anyone? Any input/oppinions will be greatly appreciated! :D
psxguy85
07-23-2003, 03:28 AM
Absolutely worth the extra cash. More isolation, better detail and overall sound quality.
You should stay with the EX71 if you really really like big Bass. Thats all I can say about those...::shudder::
Tekron
07-23-2003, 03:34 AM
Well I do love bass. It's one of the major parts that gets you to feel the song and get you in a good mood, will I be missing out big if I bought the Shure headphones over the Sony's?
Do the E2c's have virtually no bass? That's what I came to after reading some posts... :(
psxguy85
07-23-2003, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by Tekron
Well I do love bass. It's one of the major parts that gets you to feel the song and get you in a good mood, will I be missing out big if I bought the Shure headphones over the Sony's?
Do the E2c's have virtually no bass? That's what I came to after reading some posts... :(
The E2 has bass, just not enough to compare to the Sony's. I really care more about exact listening than overexaggerated.
With the Sonys you would have less overall detail and quality to the songs, but you would have big bass. Then again, if you only rip at 128kbps, I doubt the E2 would benefit you all that much.
I would NEVER go to the EX N.U.D.E. series.
Tekron
07-23-2003, 04:53 AM
Then again, if you only rip at 128kbps, I doubt the E2 would benefit you all that much.
Could you rephrase that please?
Like why wouldn't it benefit me much if I ripped at HIGHER quality such as 128kbps? Wouldn't it be more beneficial? Sorry, I'm slow.
psxguy85
07-23-2003, 05:10 AM
If you rip at high quality, the clarity of the E2 will be evident. If you don't, just go with the Sony EX71SL.
Tekron
07-23-2003, 05:19 AM
Okay, I got that...but will I still notice a good amount of bass at the higher qualitys?
The bass in the E2's is just fine. The bass on the EX70's is a bit on the heavy side--there is actually too much bass, and it is not very clear.
The key to getting good bass with the E2's is getting a good seal--which is easy to do, you have 6 different included earplugs to choose from. I prefer the foamies, and I moisten them just before placing them--get a great seal, fantastic sound, not problems with the bass. And, IMHO, the Shure's are well worth the extra cash.
psxguy85
07-23-2003, 03:12 PM
Excuse me, how good the headphone really is depends on the person listening.....its not a general OK or SUCKS for everybody. Some people don't even like the Shures, or would probably decide they don't like them as they try them on.
I suggest you buy from someone with a return period for both earphones so you don't have to worry about wasting money.
Originally posted by psxguy85
Excuse me, how good the headphone really is depends on the person listening.....its not a general OK or SUCKS for everybody. Some people don't even like the Shures, or would probably decide they don't like them as they try them on.
I suggest you buy from someone with a return period for both earphones so you don't have to worry about wasting money.
That's why there is an IMHO in my replies my friend...
In a perfect world, that would be the way to go. But it's NOT a perfect world, and finding a place that has a reasonable return policy can be difficult, and, depending on where you live, it can be virtually impossible to find a store where you can try these out for yourself prior to purchasing. So, many people rely on advice before purchasing, because returns or a trial beforehand is simply not an option. What would the purpose of this thread be if people weren't soliciting opinions on various earbuds?
I've been thanked by a few folks for turning them on to the Shure's, which, BTW, I first heard about here at the lounge...And I've seen Jacko thanked for turning people onto the E888's...So threads like these do serve a purpose--they are only opinions, and people can take them or leave them for what they're worth. If everyone had the luxury of trying out the earbuds, or had a vendor that offered no hassle returns, we probably wouldn't see so many of these threads...
Riceboi
08-01-2003, 10:22 AM
I'm not sure about other people, but does anybody with these earbuds notice some shrilling sounds when it comes to trebles? like i'm specifically targeting anyone that listens to rock genres...of course i have no problems with these buds when i listen to R&B stuff that emphasizes more bass but i seem to have to lower the volume when listening to rock stuff or else my earbuds shriek like crazy
trojan066
08-16-2003, 10:53 PM
I have the white sony EX71 headphones and they have the extendable cord just the standard black pair but they are so much cooler in white cause they match the 'pod. I ordered them from a company called Audiocubes (www.audiocubes.com). Very fast delivery especially since I believe the white ones are only coming from Japan. Check it out, I love mine.
trojan066
08-16-2003, 10:56 PM
You can get the white EX-71's from a web site: audiocubes.com who get them from Japan. Very fast delivery and price is same as the black ones here in the states. They are very cool since they match your 'pod.
trojan066
08-16-2003, 10:57 PM
Sorry for the double post there, I didn't think the 1st one went through.
monkeymd
11-17-2003, 10:42 PM
Well, it's been only 3 months since I bought my MDR-EX71SLs and the left side died 1 week ago. I ordered from i-shopping and while they say to contact them during business hours, I don't see any number or email address to contact them at. Unfortunately even though these are still under warranty, it's a Japanese warranty so unless they'll take them back and exchange them under the Japanese warranty for me, I'm pretty much out of luck. So oh well, not sure if I'll just buy another pair from Audiocubes (in hind site they were extremely fast at replying to my presales questions) so I can have the white ones or just buy the black US ones so I can return them under warranty much easier should they crap out again. I just like how tiny they are since they fit perfectly in my marware case. And I don't have the $$ for those fancy schmancy etymotic (sp?) earphones.
So if anyone knows the contact info for i-shopping, please share so I can attempt to ask them to exchange them out for me...oh wait, I don't know where the #### receipt is. eh, still worth a shot I suppose.
One thing about the EX's--if the tiny hole is barely plugged, they go COMPLETELY dead. Try taking off the silicone sleeve, clean off the diaphragm with a moist paper towel, then get a good seal with your lips over that tiny hole, and blow like 'ell through them several times, see if it unplugs them (you'll feel a give, and be able to push a little tiny bit of air through them)--if so, you'll be back in business. Back in the days when I used my EX's (I've move on to Shure E2's, and more recently Ety 4p's), I had to do this several times--it always worked, and they were as good as new...
If you start to notice a loss of sound ever so slightly on one side or the other, doing this will get them right back to where they were...
LikeAFox
11-18-2003, 01:34 AM
dmt1,
How much improvement did you see in the Shure E2's over your old Sony EX71's? I have been shopping around a little for some new headphones because I have been a little dissappointed in the EX71's. I would love to hear an opinion on the Shure's from a former EX71 user. Thanks!
iPodMaEsTrO
11-18-2003, 02:32 AM
i love my new White Sony EX71's, it isolates the sound which it=s really good, b/c ive always had to crank up the volume on teh stock apple ones to actually hear the music. With these i jsut set my EQ setting to Rock and im good to go as far as quality. The fact of the matter is, every1 has their own opinions, sum might not b audiophiles like others, i mean yeah spend another $100 for earphones jsut so u can hear every single note, to me i'd rather not, as long as its clear and enjoyable, im happy
ywwong
11-18-2003, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by monkeymd
Well, it's been only 3 months since I bought my MDR-EX71SLs and the left side died 1 week ago. I ordered from i-shopping and while they say to contact them during business hours, I don't see any number or email address to contact them at. Unfortunately even though these are still under warranty, it's a Japanese warranty so unless they'll take them back and exchange them under the Japanese warranty for me, I'm pretty much out of luck. So oh well, not sure if I'll just buy another pair from Audiocubes (in hind site they were extremely fast at replying to my presales questions) so I can have the white ones or just buy the black US ones so I can return them under warranty much easier should they crap out again. I just like how tiny they are since they fit perfectly in my marware case. And I don't have the $$ for those fancy schmancy etymotic (sp?) earphones.
So if anyone knows the contact info for i-shopping, please share so I can attempt to ask them to exchange them out for me...oh wait, I don't know where the #### receipt is. eh, still worth a shot I suppose.
This is the guy's email address ringolau@yahoo.com
I bought a sony battery from him and after 2 exchanges, it is still NOT working. I don't have good ebay experience with him
Originally posted by dmt1
Back in the days when I used my EX's (I've move on to Shure E2's, and more recently Ety 4p's), I had to do this several times--it always worked, and they were as good as new...
Well you do have two Cerumen factories strapped either side of your head!!;)
Got the Ety's yety?:D
monkeymd
11-18-2003, 08:19 PM
Hmm...I don't see any ear goo plugging the tiny hole. Just tried it and that didn't do anything to solve my problem. At any rate, I just realized that if the japan warranty is 90 days just the us sony warranty is, then I'm out of luck. Oh well...those $9 sony's I have will have to do for now until I decide what to do. Pioneer seems to have a similar looking set for a decent price or I could get the black 71sl from amazon using my visa gold (they automatically double the warranty on anything i buy with my visa) and not bother with a different country's warranty. I just don't feel like spending so much money on these things anymore. But I need them for those annoying plane engine noises. And it just looks prettier with the all white look. Stupid US Sony not selling the us version in white. I emailed them and asked why they don't sell a us white version or when/if they plan to and I got a lame "we only know what they tell us and if they tell us to pick our asses then stick our fingers in our mouthes, we'll do it" type response. Why did they even bother responding if they weren't planning on giving a useful answer?
Originally posted by LikeAFox
dmt1,
How much improvement did you see in the Shure E2's over your old Sony EX71's? I have been shopping around a little for some new headphones because I have been a little dissappointed in the EX71's. I would love to hear an opinion on the Shure's from a former EX71 user. Thanks!
The Shure's are a major improvement over the EX's--the Shure's are IMHO the best value canal phone out there--they are more expensive than the Sony's, but are well worth it for what you get. Which is near total isolation, much clearer sound, more realistic bass--I really love the Shure's--although I do hope they'll provide a triple flanged sleeve; I think that will make them even more popular.
The Ety 4p's are an big improvement over the Shure's (they should be, for the price), and you're getting into audiophile territory with the Ety's. I love the Ety's, but I'm still getting used to them--at some point I'll post something about them for giggles, after I've had them a while longer. At a certain point, you reach the point of diminishing returns--although the Ety's are IMHO worth the extra dough ($220-$260 dollars, depending on where you get them), the Shures in my opinion are a better value--it's a wonderful earphone for $80. I'm not that high on the EX's--I used to be, until I got the upgraditis virus REAL bad--but compared to the Shure's, they just don' sound so great. I'd only go with the EX's if I couldn't spring the extra fifty dollars or so for the Shure's. About all I can say about the EX's is that they're a reasonably priced isolating earphone, but there much better choices for isolating earphones if you don't mind paying a bit more (and if isolation isn't a factor, there are much better semi open, nonisolating phones for $20.00 that sound MUCH better than the EX's)...
LikeAFox
11-19-2003, 03:37 AM
dmt1,
Thanks for your reply. I have definately decided to sell my EX71's (infact they are already on eBay). I am now contemplating the Shure E2's or the Ety ER-6's. I cant seem to find much info/user experiences on the ER-6, so I think Ill just go with the Shures unless someone has had experience with the ER-6's. Thanks again!
Willaim
11-20-2003, 12:00 AM
I have a set of EX 51 and they sound and work great. I looked at the EX 71s but the specifications are 100% exactly the same. If you do not believe it go to the Sony (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=zDIzprqS-UAzk4Uu92s5rfWCUwPRI3q9MNU=?Dept=pa&CategoryName=pa_Headphones_FontopiaEarbud) site and print out the specifications on both. So what are the deference between the 2 models?
Jackonicko
11-20-2003, 07:41 AM
The EX51 is cheaper. It comes without the bag, and with only two sizes of 'grommet' rather than three.
They should be just as 'good' (in other words just as mediocre) as the EX71.
Willaim
11-20-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Jackonicko
The EX51 is cheaper. It comes without the bag, and with only two sizes of 'grommet' rather than three.
They should be just as 'good' (in other words just as mediocre) as the EX71.
The EX51 comes with 3 size (S,M,L) grommets. So it's $10.00 for a bag? :confused: It must be a nice leather bag.
Jackonicko
11-20-2003, 02:33 PM
OK, when the EX51 was first on Sony's site it said only two sizes. Sorry for misleading you.
There are fewer colour options, too, but the differences are cosmetic.
But lest there be any doubt, the EX51, 70 and 71 are all equally poor, especially when compared to the Sony E888, the Shure, or the Ety.
Ok, the EX's aren't THAT bad, but Jacko's right about the relative qualities--the other options are so much better, they are worth the extra money--even though the EX's are cheaper, you get so much more for the extra cost that I'd maintain that the E888's and Shure's are a better value. The EX's are great, until you try something better--then you realize what you're missing. The Ety 4p's are simply incredible, but are pricey--I haven't tried the Ety 6's. I still love the Shures, even after getting the Ety's; I really don't even bother with my EX's any more. I haven't had the opportunity to try the E888's, someday I hope to run into a pair though to try out.
If you're happy with the EX's, then I strongly recommend NOT trying one of the other earphones unless you have your wallet handy.....
wei_zhu
03-04-2004, 01:01 PM
I ordered Sony MDR-EX71 (White) from http://www.i-shopping4u.com/
Then I registrered myself at www.paypal.com to pay him. On Wednesday I received an email in which he asks me to pay him. I clicked the link in the email and I clicked on 'pay' to pay him 50USD (42?).
Later that day I received another email from Ringo Lau in which he asks me to pay him again! It's exactly the same email as the first one:confused: :confused: :confused:. How can this be possible?
Don' mind my English, I'm Dutch:rolleyes: :p
coolio
03-07-2004, 02:38 PM
should have used shop.brando.com.hk
just a one off $49 with your visa meaning u get better protection and their customer service cannot be faulted