View Full Version : RANT: iSkin....iSkin...iSkin.....
inkblot78
10-22-2003, 03:37 AM
Ok,
Please don't flame, this isn't meant to be rude or disrespectful.
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems that Lajo and the iSkin have been the topic of the majority of conversation in this forum, which is not dedicated to the iSkin. It's starting to get on my nerves a little. I come here to read about information about other ipod cases, not one individual who keeps endorsing his product, or addressing continual aspects of customer service. Please don't think I'm attacking Lajo at all. I have read his post and think that he has gone above and beyond with the level of interaction. I just think that maybe it is time that he shift his business to a forum hosted on his own site and not an ipod community site.
Just my opinion,
Inkblot78
dinojr
10-22-2003, 04:53 AM
unless the admin of ipodlounge has a problem with that, there's nothing you can do.
doing so might cause an uproar.
instead they should open a sub-forum in cases specially for iskin.
hhvuong
10-22-2003, 05:00 AM
Inkblot, although I appreciate your point, I don't completely agree with you. I would agree that SOME Iskin posts should be directly sent to Lajo.biz: reviews of iskins are fine on this forum, questions as to when a specific shipment will arrive should go to the customer service department of the company selling the product.
At the end of the day, the huge number of posts on Iskin is a result of Iskin cases being immensely popular among ipoders, not because Lajo is trying to establish his products as the one and only topic people can discuss on this forum. Indeed, the vast majority of the initial postings re. iskins are made by iskin owners or would be owners, not from Lajo.
If you have something to say or ask about other third party cases, go ahead and express yourself. Or maybe you're thinking about implementing positive discrimination rules?
Kharn
10-22-2003, 05:28 AM
I'm on a couple of forums where businesses are represented and have a large ammount of interaction with customers on the forum. I think it is the best thing since sliced bread, It is a great way to communicate aswell as provide feedback to the business. As long as the business rep does not go too far and do shameless plugs or creates phoney accounts praising products it works well. Generally from what i've seen i have greater respect for companies that provide representatives(especailly if it is the owner/director) as they usually provide a better product and are able to take the heat of customer dissatisfaction.
jiggles
10-22-2003, 07:13 AM
let's not do ANYTHING to restrict vendors from using this forum to appropriatly help consumers of ipod products. even if there are posers out there, heck, this IS the internet. i find talking to sellers here to be as some one else put it, like sliced bread or toast or whatever (we don't get that much here, we eat roti). i think the west has gone way to far with server-based selling, and the day my cold store gets an e-commerce website is the day i stop eating eggs.
uh oh, here goes another post about business practice and not about covers...okay, well...sue me.
jiggy
Personally I think manufacturers/designers from all companies should get involved here in the forum and help answer some questions on their product and service that they only have answers too. It helps and protects the customer, it helps the company to know how to improve their products and service and it?s good for iPodlounge.com ? hot pages draws higher advertising higher review.
jiggles
10-22-2003, 08:00 AM
well lajo, you would! don't you sell stuff? what are you anyway, the designer, owner or all. seriously, i am looking forward to my order from your? company. thanks again.
jiggy
lawnmower
10-22-2003, 08:43 AM
I was also beginning to think that there was rather a lot of iskin/Lajo posts in this part of the forum . . . but saying that, as a very new ipod owner I have found all the discussions very informative and very interesting, not only on the different aspects/popularity of the cases (helping me with my color choice) but also on the behaviour, involvement and trustworthiness of a supplier.
I was (rightly or wrongly) totally encouraged by this forum to order from Lajo, and after some technical difficulties was very impressed at the speedy 'Lajo' customer service. This is something I would not even have known about had there not been this interaction here on the forum and for that I am grateful!
I am inclined to agree with Lajo, more suppliers should be getting involved here and this would perhaps then balance out the apparent bias.
Don't knock it encourage more!
inkblot78
10-22-2003, 12:46 PM
I 100% agree with all that has been posted. I too believe that it is a rare thing today to be able to actually TALK to a person to has any decision-making power in a company today. My main point was that maybe there should be an iSkin or VENDOR sub forum or sticky thread. They've begun to dominate the board.
I for one come here and read all the user revews and opinions to try and formulate an opinion on whether or not I want to buy somehting (such as my tunedok, iTrip, etc). Please don't get me wrong, I love this site. I first posted because I felt that this site and it's community listen to each other and do not attack eachother outright.
Well, those are just my humble thoughts.
hhvuong
10-22-2003, 01:45 PM
Creating a sub forum could be a solution but doing that would go against the idea of keeping all the case related topics in one place (what if you want to make up your mind on a new ipod case?). I would reiterate my opinion that some posts should be sent directly to the relevant merchant. For instance the "Thanks Lajo" thread on this forum, in my opinion, shouldn't have been posted here.
SetterP
10-22-2003, 02:03 PM
inkblot78,
Once you own an iSkin, you'll understand what all the fuss is about, and why Lajo is such an important figure here on ipodlounge.
Peace,
SetterP
pb1212580
10-22-2003, 02:45 PM
Good point but...
There have been discussions about other cases and MAYBE there is a reason why the iSkins are talked about so much...because there is NOTHING like it around yet.
All others are cases...ordinary cases that serve the same functions.
Feel free to post questions/info and what not about other cases, people will reply if it's of interest to them...if not, well, I guess that's not where the fashion trend is... :)
2 cents :)
pb1212580
10-22-2003, 02:51 PM
just to add,
I 120% agree that other companies should be interacting here as well if they really want to hear some online product feedbacks. Most companies nowadays are way too into their own designs and ideas..."it'll will be the best case cuz we added this one or two things..." and I'd say not too thoughtful at times about what they put out. It feels like it's about how fast they can ship out the newest case for the newest player and not about EXACTLY what the consumer wants AND MORE.
I hope the makers are using their own products...cuz if they don't, how'd they know what works and what doesn't AND what there is to do to REALLY make it ENJOYABLE to use the product!?
ps. it's hard to find a company that will really listen to us little people...they are usually into their statistics collected by some $$$ stat. companies that probably just plugged some formulae into a computer program for the result and didnt' actually go out and survey the needy!
make sense? maybe? J.
ladyslug
10-22-2003, 02:57 PM
When I came here I was just as glad that there was a great deal of discussion about the iskins, because once I saw a picture of one on another website, I knew that was the case I wanted to get and searched for more information.
However, I do understand the point that inkblot is trying to make. The cases forum would be much easier to navigate if it contained subforums for each case manufacturer. Then if you had something in mind, you could go straight to those posts that addressed what you were interested in. Perhaps also an overall "reviews" subforum to compare cases side-by-side (containing reviews only).
Just a thought...
I just started posting here but I've been lurking for months.
I like how all the cases are in one forum. Yes, there's an abundance of iSkin posts, but they're made by actual pod-users who have questions/concerns. The fact that Lajo makes the time to directly address this issues is what made me support his business. Do I like the Vaja cases? YES! but they're so expensive! and I assume that's why they're not as popular.
My only suggestion would be to make a sticky within this forum with all the cases available (only 1 iSkin entry), that way newcomers can see what's out there and go from there.
With regards to more sub-forums, there will be those members who would like them, but there will be an equal number who would cry "Too many forums.."
The Gear Forum was split into its present format due to the difficulty in finding info about a specific item in the old Gear Forum. I hope it has worked as intended. The "iPod-in-car" forum was added as it seemed to be an increasingly 'hot topic'.
To further split the Cases section into "Brand Forums" would make finding info about Case A or B easier, but there is the Reviews Section (http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews.php), with a good cross section of cases reviewed, for this very reason. You could narrow down your choice of case then use the Forum Search (http://www.ipodlounge.com/forums/search.php?s=) function to refine your decision.
Lajo and iSkin have been very popular with members (his giveaways were a definite help) and having a manufacturer post in reply to problems has been good to see. But he is also getting good feedback at the same time from the forums.
Caribbean Soul
10-22-2003, 05:05 PM
I 120% agree that other companies should be interacting here as well ...
I couldn't agree more.
Also, I enjoy Lajo's participation, and can easily skip any threads I'm not interested in. Personally, I would not be in favor of further subdividing the Cases forum.