iPod video tutorial for Windows Users

[B. W.]

With the introduction of the new video enabled iPod, I thought I'd like to share this with people jumping on the iPod bandwagon (and we're going to get a lot of posts on the subject).

Update: Due to the introduction of the Videora iPod Converter (http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/), I am taking my article offline. You can view their tutorial here (http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/guides.html#1000). Videos encoded with the older method will still work, and I will still provide as much support as possible to the community.

What does this mean?
Basicly, the good is there's a way to get full length movies on the iPod. The bad is, the movie has to be converted twice, which is a lengthy and quality draining process.

Unfortunately, there won't be a way to load a DVD in iTunes, and have it import effortlessly (unless Apple wants to go through the MPAA).

This also means that the iPod will have a shorter amount of battery life. Expect the device to die well before the advertised two hours of video playback time. The files we're using here are huge, and will keep the iPod's hard drive spinning for quite a while.

[moe_4eva]

Made it a sticky. Thanks for the great info blankwire!

[DeathtoToasters]

Will this only work on Mac?

[arevee]

Five lines from the top:

"This article is meant for Windows users.":D

[CookieFactory]

thanks, this is what im looking for.

[vertigo_rp]

this seems simple enough. thanks.

[DeathtoToasters]

Originally posted by arevee
Five lines from the top:

"This article is meant for Windows users.":D

I am slow....I did buy an iriver first and now have it on ebay. Once it sells....here comes the Ipod :)

[aquatika]

Sorry, but is this against forum policy ??

I know DVD Decrypter removes the encryption on DVD's. I also know that it has been clamped down on via legal means elsewhere on the net.

This is like posting links to software to remove the iTunes music DRM which IIRC people have been warned against in the past on this forum.

I'm no party pooper (I use this stuff myself) and it's a great post but this info is freely available on the net via google etc

Just wondered. :confused: sorry if I am wrong.

[B. W.]

Originally posted by aquatika
Sorry, but is this against forum policy ??

I know DVD Decrypter removes the encryption on DVD's. I also know that it has been clamped down on via legal means elsewhere on the net.

This is like posting links to software to remove the iTunes music DRM which IIRC people have been warned against in the past on this forum.

I'm no party pooper (I use this stuff myself) and it's a great post but this info is freely available on the net via google etc

Just wondered. :confused: sorry if I am wrong.
That's why I left the link out for DVD Decrypter at first. :confused: If it causes any problems with the moderators, by all means remove it.

Yes, this decrypting and encoding information can be found over the net, but none of it is geared towards use with the iPod directly (atleast yet).

[papayaninja]

Removing the DRM from music is generally done o you can share it more easily. Decrypting a DVD for this purpose shouldn't be a problem. Thanks a lot, Blankwire. About how big are the files?

[B. W.]

Originally posted by papayaninja
Removing the DRM from music is generally done o you can share it more easily. Decrypting a DVD for this purpose shouldn't be a problem. Thanks a lot, Blankwire. About how big are the files?
I'm just throwing a few file sizes around here:

8 Mile - 344 MB - 384 kbps
Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story - 202 MB - 256 kbps
Finding Nemo - 378 MB - 384 kbps

Overall, a movie shouldn't take up more than 400MB (since these files are the same resolution as the iPod's screen).

[ipodphoto30]

wow for a second i was thinking of buying the new video ipod i saved my money for, but thanks for the tutorial now i won't have to buy it, and just put this on my photo.

[Moht]

What about Mac users... could you put up an equivalent tutorial?

[GMacDaddyTPO]

How much is the quality comprimised when done at 256Kbps?

[B. W.]

Originally posted by Moht
What about Mac users... could you put up an equivalent tutorial?
I can't speak for Mac users, since I don't have a Mac.

However, there is a program called ffmpegX (http://homepage.mac.com/major4/), which supposedly makes converting a lot easier.

EDIT:

Originally posted by GMacDaddyTPO
How much is the quality comprimised when done at 256Kbps?
You'll notice a lot more artifacts during playback, but I find it fine for watching TV episodes (I actually have all of Family Guy seaon 3 waiting to be imported).

The sad part is the iPod can support a much higher bit rate, but for some reason while I was modifying 3GP Converter, the flags I used had no improvement. It's stuck at 384. :mad:

[enjoilax]

Awesome blankwire! Farking fabulous!

[aquatika]

none of it is geared towards use with the iPod directly

Hee hee, I'm sure that's about to change. ;)

[iStealMusic]

Oh man if movie converting and importing is this hard maybe I won't buy it...

[penguin320]

uh... does anyone maybe know if pspvideo 9 might work, cause my brother has a psp and there are already some movies that he converted. i don't have the new ipod yet, but my sister lost my old one so im planning on buying it. im just curious if psp video 9 will work. thanks

[B. W.]

Originally posted by penguin320
anyone know if psp video 9 will work?
Yes! So many posts..! :eek:

If it can play in iTunes, it'll work.

[penguin320]

coool it plays on itunes i guess itll work... ill find out when i buy... sorry about the quadruple posts... my computer's running kinda slowly

[aquatika]

does anyone maybe know if pspvideo 9 might work

It would be nice if it does, I've already converted a few movies for my PSP. The hang up will be the iPod's screen size/ resolution compared to the PSP's larger screen.

[iStealMusic]

Can anyone explain converting with PSP video likewill it change any type of movie fileyou have to the one compatible with the new iPod or is it more complicated then that?

[batboy]

Would it be possible to rip in IFO mode in DVD Decrytor, Convert to AVI using AUTOGK, and then just convert the files to Ipod standard using Quicktime Pro 7?

[B. W.]

Originally posted by batboy
Would it be possible to rip in IFO mode in DVD Decrytor, Convert to AVI using AUTOGK, and then just convert the files to iPod standard using Quicktime Pro 7?
Yes (I mentioned this in my first post).

Originally posted by aquatika
It would be nice if it does, I've already converted a few movies for my PSP. The hang up will be the iPod's screen size/ resolution compared to the PSP's larger screen.
It actually doesn't matter. Only files with a 320 x 240 resolution can play on the PSP, and that is the same resolution as the iPod's screen. By watching a video on the PSP, your getting a stretched image, that's all.

So any video encoding tool made for the PSP should work with the iPod. They use the same codecs (except the PSP requires an ATOM to play the file correctly, but this is irrelevant).

[citric]

Originally posted by ipodphoto30
wow for a second i was thinking of buying the new video ipod i saved my money for, but thanks for the tutorial now i won't have to buy it, and just put this on my photo.

That won't work. I assume you're talking about using iPod Linux to watch vidoes? If so, the only working file format for videos in iPod Linux is uncompressed AVI format. which means that my 83mb video of NIrvanas - Man Who Sold the World now becomes 402mb.

[proskibum]

Anyone else having difficulties d/ling Auto GK?

[citric]

it took me a sec, but if you scroll down there's something that says "your download will begin in" and it counts down about 20 seconds or so, then a link appears.

[mpb2000]

So it seems the problem is that 3GP_Converter doesn't go any higher than 384 kbps, even though the ipod can handle up to 2.5 mbps. Does someone know of another program that can convert to a higher rate?

[Scarpad]

Why could'nt you use PSP Video 9 and just rename the AVC file it creates, the files should be compatible.

[kazakaz]

anybody figure out settings for widescreen DVDs? I just encoded The Incredibles, but it squished it.

[ragingSPAM]

so if have avi files already from what i downloaded than i can just go straight to 3gp converter?

[jazzyjames]

yes, you can convert any avi or any video format to MP4, which according to the press (and this thread) should run on the new ipod. i have a multimedia phone and watch movies, music videos, family guy, etc in either MP4 or 3GP formats (my phone has only 1GB in minSD), so will probably pick this ipod up for the greater storage.

[SoySauce15]

Does anyone know if there are other programs out there that can convert .avi and .wma files faster than 3GP? Thanks.

[jazzyjames]

for those that are lazy, ringerpost.com has tons of videos in MP4 and 3GP format in the videos section. You can convert the 3GP ones to MP4 quickly using the converter.

[aquatika]

Only files with a 320 x 240 resolution can play on the PSP

Are you sure ?? I thought the PSP screen was 480x272 Widescreen which IIRC is what the movies I encoded with PSP9 are. (They fill the screen anyway and don't look stretched). 320 x 240 resolution when played back on the PSP would have a black banding around it I would imagine.

[B. W.]

Originally posted by aquatika
Are you sure ?? I thought the PSP screen was 480x272 Widescreen which IIRC is what the movies I encoded with PSP9 are. (They fill the screen anyway and don't look stretched). 320 x 240 resolution when played back on the PSP would have a black banding around it I would imagine.
Yes I am sure. With the addition of the AVC codec on the PSP, some movies (if encoded correctly, I don't know the exact specifics behind it) can play taking up the whole screen. But they are still in the 320 x 240 resolution. Sony kept this limitation in to try to get people to buy more UMD movies.

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by aquatika
Are you sure ?? I thought the PSP screen was 480x272 Widescreen which IIRC is what the movies I encoded with PSP9 are. (They fill the screen anyway and don't look stretched). 320 x 240 resolution when played back on the PSP would have a black banding around it I would imagine.

See this article from endgadget for a full breakdown:
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000980024404/

[aquatika]

Cheers, you learn something new everyday.

:)

[daveabrey]

It's not quite true that the resolution must be exactly 320x240. Reading the description of how to use ffmpegx on a Mac to get movies on to a PSP, it states that If your source is 16:9 sources, you may also use non-standard size of 368x208 (or 416x176, 320x176, 384x160, 480x160 and 400x192). Note that the PSP screen has a resolution of 480x272, but for movie playback, width x height must not exceed 76800 pixels, so the smaller sizes listed above have to be used. Note that no matter the non-standard resolution used, the picture will be always scaled to the full 16:9 PSP screen size.

So to total number of pixels is the immportant factor. 320x240 jsut happens to be one of the combinations that gives this result :).

edit: I tried to post a link to the page, but got some error message about 'Only established members are allowed to post URLs on this site.' - what's that all about?

[mpb2000]

How does ripping TV shows from DVD work? From the instructions here, it seems like when you rip a DVD, you're just left with one large video file that you convert into .mp4. But with TV shows, you want a file for each episode. Does anyone know how the DVD ripping software treats TV show DVDs? If it still just saves one large file, is the only solution using some other video editing software to split it up?

[daveabrey]

You should be able to select individual chapters, titles etc from the main disc - look at the first screenshot in the tutorial, there's a section that looks like you can select which chapters to rip.

[Code Monkey]

Anyone more knowledgeable than me able to comment on this pondering:

The default instructions given here generate a relatively high quality .avi which we're then going to turn around and smoosh into a 320x240 (less than 25% of the original video information) to put it on the iPod.

So why do we set the AutoGK to go for a 75% quality .avi?

Wouldn't we save a lot of time on the second transcoding by going for 50% or even less? Or is there a reason to go with 75%

[Archangel]

If you have a file in .avi-format the 3gp converter can convert it to a format playable on the new iPod (stated earlier in this thread).
But does 3gp converter covert it to the right size (320 x 240) if it is in a larger format?
It would be nice to be able to covert .avi-files from large size to playable iPod size and format with one program. Does 3gp converter do this? If not is there another (free) program that has this ability?

Thanks!

[ATCQ]

the 3GP Converter download doesn't work for me. Once I download, there is no setup or anything.

[B. W.]

Originally posted by Code Monkey
Anyone more knowledgeable than me able to comment on this pondering:

The default instructions given here generate a relatively high quality .avi which we're then going to turn around and smoosh into a 320x240 (less than 25% of the original video information) to put it on the iPod.

So why do we set the AutoGK to go for a 75% quality .avi?

Wouldn't we save a lot of time on the second transcoding by going for 50% or even less? Or is there a reason to go with 75%
You don't have to set the quality to 75%. It's really your choice.

I like to keep the quality high, because I watch the .AVI files on my computer, and use 3GP converter for my PSP.

Originally posted by Archangel
If you have a file in .avi-format the 3gp converter can convert it to a format playable on the new iPod (stated earlier in this thread).
But does 3gp converter covert it to the right size (320 x 240) if it is in a larger format?
It would be nice to be able to covert .avi-files from large size to playable iPod size and format with one program. Does 3gp converter do this? If not is there another (free) program that has this ability?

Thanks!
The program automaticly sets the resolution to 320x240.

Originally posted by ATCQ
the 3GP Converter download doesn't work for me. Once I download, there is no setup or anything.
There is no setup file. You just run the 3GP Converter.exe, and drag n' drop.

[kazakaz]

Originally posted by Code Monkey
Anyone more knowledgeable than me able to comment on this pondering:

The default instructions given here generate a relatively high quality .avi which we're then going to turn around and smoosh into a 320x240 (less than 25% of the original video information) to put it on the iPod.

So why do we set the AutoGK to go for a 75% quality .avi?

Wouldn't we save a lot of time on the second transcoding by going for 50% or even less? Or is there a reason to go with 75%

I set mine to 1 CD size, that way the avi is only 700mb. Still good quality, at least with the family guy episodes I've ripped.

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by Blankwire
You don't have to set the quality to 75%. It's really your choice.

I like to keep the quality high, because I watch the .AVI files on my computer, and use 3GP converter for my PSP.

OK, that's about what I was figuring but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Since I'm not interested in keeping the .avi files I'll do some playing around.

I will say this: I haven't tried the 3GP converter yet, but will be soon because I don't think anything could be slower than QuickTime Pro. I suspect it may be that QT is going for the higher kbps that 3GP evidently won't do, but I'm going on 5 hours to convert a 30 minute .avi file and it's only at 36%, that's f'in nuts. I'm going to abort the process and test 3GP & PSP 9 to see if they're any better.

[aloof]

Originally posted by mpb2000
So it seems the problem is that 3GP_Converter doesn't go any higher than 384 kbps, even though the ipod can handle up to 2.5 mbps. Does someone know of another program that can convert to a higher rate?
The instructions uses an AVC profile, which is h.246 so you can only top off at 768kbps. Use Psp video 9 if you want greater control.

[tweeknockr]

I tried converting a widescreen (HD) tv show that i have using 3GP, and it forced it to full screen.

Anyone know how to fix this?

[JuryDuty]

Curious--I have some home movies I've created in Ulead VideoStudio. Is there a way I can save those directly to MP4 format? Or should I save it to AVI and then convert to MP4?

EDIT: NM, i just went to the Ulead site, and they have a free MP4 plug-in for videostudio owners. Sweet!

[mgmg]

BlankWire, could you post a picture of your ipod playing video? I just want to see what you end up with in turns of quality.

EDITL Oh wait, it's not shipping yet, is it. Nevermind....

[jesusp]

uhh yea is anyone else having trouble with autogk? if i open a .ifo file then it wont let me click on the open for the output one :( but if i put a .vob file in it works......

[BatTheMan]

i noticed you convert this into mp4, but wont the iPod play .mov ?

[mgmg]

Another question:

When I start the job in Auto Gordian, how do I know when it's done? I can't find a progress bar, or anything. In fact, other than the log (Last Entry was: Demuxing and Indexing, about an hour ago), nothing seems to be happening.

[nosaru]

i see people asking how to get widescreen into 320x240 format without stretching, but how ocme no one bother to answer them, is there no way to do so?

[tweeknockr]

I found that PSP Video 9 will allow you to make widescreen format that will play in itunes

[B. W.]

Originally posted by jesusp
uhh yea is anyone else having trouble with autogk? if i open a .ifo file then it wont let me click on the open for the output one :( but if i put a .vob file in it works......
I don't understand your question. Care to rephrase it?

Originally posted by BatTheMan
i noticed you convert this into mp4, but wont the iPod play .mov ?
This is correct, but H.264 is a superior codec.

Originally posted by mgmg
Another question:

When I start the job in Auto Gordian, how do I know when it's done? I can't find a progress bar, or anything. In fact, other than the log (Last Entry was: Demuxing and Indexing, about an hour ago), nothing seems to be happening.
You should notice other programs running in your taskbar. Something IS happening, it just takes quite a while to get done.

AutoGK has taken up to 6 hours to convert a movie for me. Just let it run - there's now way to speed up the process. :(

Originally posted by nosaru
i see people asking how to get widescreen into 320x240 format without stretching, but how ocme no one bother to answer them, is there no way to do so?
There's no way to convert videos without the streching to my knowledge (since the iPod only supports two resolutions - 320x240 with AVC, and 480x480 with MP4, unless I'm reading the iPod spec sheet wrong).

[nosaru]

There's no way to convert videos without the streching to my knowledge (since the iPod only supports two resolutions - 320x240 with AVC, and 480x480 with MP4, unless I'm reading the iPod spec sheet wrong).

then is there a way encode it to 320x240 by putting in black band up top and buttom instead of stretching it??

[boead]

Originally posted by Blankwire
There's no way to convert videos without the streching to my knowledge...

Yeah you can, get a faster computer ;-)

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by nosaru
then is there a way encode it to 320x240 by putting in black band up top and buttom instead of stretching it??

Don't use Autogk. Just drop the VOB file directly into the 3GP converter.

[BatTheMan]

Originally posted by TheTelevision
Don't use Autogk. Just drop the VOB file directly into the 3GP converter.
Thx for the tip I'm trying it right now.

Also If you want you can Rip one scene of your DVD at a time so When you'll use it on the iPod it wont read a file has big thus it will use less battery

[Casey_the_geek]

Why do we need Autosynth(Or what ever its called)?

I am on the AutoGK part and I followed your settings except it said "You do not have Xvid installed so Divx will be set" or seomthin like that. is it ebcause I dont have Autosynth?

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by Casey_the_geek
Why do we need Autosynth(Or what ever its called)?

I am on the AutoGK part and I followed your settings except it said "You do not have Xvid installed so Divx will be set" or seomthin like that. is it ebcause I dont have Autosynth?

It says "You do not have Xvid installed so Divx will be set" because you simply don't have Xvid codec so it used the Divx codec on your computer instead. I think you need AviSynth but it's downloaded along with AutoGK.

As a note, unless you want the lack of black bars or subititles, just drop the VOB file directly into the 3GP, PSPvideo9, PSPware, or whatever program you are using. It saves a lot of time. PSPvideo9 should have volume enhancers, second pass, and customizable rates. PSPware is available for Macs and PCs but you have to pay for it.

[jesusp]

ok when i hit input, i choose my IFO file. but then when i try to click on the output one, nothing opens up :(

[B. W.]

Originally posted by jesusp
ok when i hit input, i choose my IFO file. but then when i try to click on the output one, nothing opens up :(
That's right. If you want to save the new file in the same folder, for instance, you would simply click on the browse button, and click on save.

Hope that helps.

[nosaru]

so there's still not a way to encode 16:9 file with black band to be 320:240? :(

[mgmg]

Is VirtualDubMod part of AutoGK? Because that just popped up and I have no idea what it's doing.

TheTelevision, which .VOB file would you do? There were several, along with the .IFO. If you do it that way, you'll have black bars and subtitles?

[jesusp]

Originally posted by Blankwire
That's right. If you want to save the new file in the same folder, for instance, you would simply click on the browse button, and click on save.

Hope that helps.

yea but when i click browse it flashes but nothing comes up :(

[jesusp]

ok i think when i decrypted it it messed up so it works now, it was just a corrupted file

[mgmg]

Argh.

So, AutoGK has some new lines in the log: Running Single Pass Encoding. But not, this thing called VirtualDub Mod started running, and is apparently dubbing the movie. Is this supposed to happen, or can I cancel it?

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by mgmg
Is VirtualDubMod part of AutoGK? Because that just popped up and I have no idea what it's doing.

TheTelevision, which .VOB file would you do? There were several, along with the .IFO. If you do it that way, you'll have black bars and subtitles?

Yup, virtualdubmod is a part of AutoGK.

You should only have one VOB file that's about 4-8GB large. If not, to fix that in dvddecryptor, go to Tools->Settings...->IFO mode-> File Splitting tab set to NONE.

Using AutoGK will take away the blackbars. Dropping the VOB file directly into the 3GP converter leaves the bars.

[mgmg]

If you have a fullscreen DVD it doesn't matter, right? It will just fill the whole screen?

Thanks :)

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by mgmg
If you have a fullscreen DVD it doesn't matter, right? It will just fill the whole screen?

Thanks :)

I haven't tried to encode any fullscreen dvds because I mostly have widescreen but I'm assuming it will fit the whole screen. You could always test it out with a single chapter from a fullscreen movie.

[vertigo_rp]

i suggest everybody decrypt their dvds into one .VOB file and convert that with PSP Video 9. it is easier and faster.

[cranium]

I can't actually get the PSPvideo 9 to work properlly. I convert the video to a 320 X 240 stereo 29.9 fps etc... but it wont play in itunes. I have also tried IMTOO converter and cyberlink h.264 converter with no luck.
I have the latest version of itunes (7 i believe, the one with video capabilities)

I'm guessing if it plays in itunes it will play on the video ipod. Am I missing something vital here?? Any suggestions??

[kazakaz]

Originally posted by TheTelevision
I haven't tried to encode any fullscreen dvds because I mostly have widescreen but I'm assuming it will fit the whole screen. You could always test it out with a single chapter from a fullscreen movie.

I ripped Family Guy Stewie: The Untold Story which is fullscreen, and it encoded it in the right aspect ratio.

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by cranium
I'm guessing if it plays in itunes it will play on the video ipod. Am I missing something vital here??Yes, for one: playing in iTunes doesn't mean a thing about whether it will play on the new iPod. iTunes simply renders video using the QT engine and QT can be extended to support any video out there.

Read the specs: .m4v, mp4, and .mov encoded either with H.264 or mpeg-4 standards, that's it.

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong with PSPvideo, it works flawlessly for me.

I would recommend using AVC/320x240/29.97fps/384kbps/128kpbs.

Don't use the default SP/* setting it goes to, overall it produces more artifacts.

[brownstonemr]

So I have been using the 3GPConverter to take existing music videos I have and convert them to be ipod compatable.

I have been using the AVC QVGA/29.97fps/384kbps Stereo/192kbps. However when I go and play this video in winamp for example it says the quality of the audio is only 96kbps.

Any Ideas?

[aloof]

Originally posted by brownstonemr
I have been using the AVC QVGA/29.97fps/384kbps Stereo/192kbps. However when I go and play this video in winamp for example it says the quality of the audio is only 96kbps.

Any Ideas?

Open up the transcoding.ini file and under "Item 17" change "-ab 96" to 192. Not sure if it will work though as the provided 3gp converter doesn't seem to respond to any other changes.

[jesusp]

ok i have one more question. i am converting the family guy movie and it finished last night, but it 2 files. i know how to change it into one so im converting again, but when i played the movie in WMP there was no audio, i checked my speakers and it still didn't play. all my other sounds did play (itunes music, aim, etc) is this a problem or is it alright? (note that this is right after i use AutoGK on the file to make it a .avi) So really my question is, is there supposed to be audio on the .avi's?

[blueman]

Awesome tips, I'm getting started with my favorite movies and shows while waiting for the new iPod.

So, here's my question. Let's say you've bought a DVD of a TV show season (say Family Guy, The Office, etc) with each chapter a separate show in that season. Is there a way that you can get DVD Decoder to pull different files (VOB, right) for each chapter during one rip? I'm sure this is an easy question, but I can't figure it out. I just want to separate the chapters into different files. Unlike a movie, there's no need for them to run back to back when watching.

Also, skipping from ripping with DVD Decoder to 3GP doesn't really matter, right? I mean, I'm having no problems with the output from 3GP playing on my computer. Just wanted to check before I spend too much time doing this and then learn I can't watch them on my iPod or something.

Finally, I'm dragging my VOB file straight to 3GP. When I view it though, it's not in the right aspect ratio. So, The Office is widescreen, but when I view the 3GP output it's scrunched. Is that because it's getting ripped wrong from the DVD?

[jesusp]

ok never mind again, even though the AVI's dont play audio when i convert it and put it in itunes it works :D

[HalloweenOnXmas]

because you have widescreen which is 16:9 i believe and you are trying to make the file 4:3 it has to scrunch it, just like a tv. If not, the video's edges would be cut-off

[blueman]

I figured it was getting converted, but how can I prevent that in the ripping and/or 3GP phase? I guess that's reason to run the VOB through Auto Gordian Knot? Would that stop it? Is there any way to keep 3GP from converting to 4:3?

[Code Monkey]

Regarding widescreen

I don't know how well it works or not, but there is a 16:9-> 320x240 setting in PSPvideo which I assume is a automatic cropping conversion or possibly automatically bands it with black (haven't tried it yet).

There are also a number of 368x208 16:9 presets which *technically* should be equivalent to 320x240 as far as decoding goes, but I wouldn't do more than make a test movie to try when we actually get the iPods to see if they play or not.

[blueman]

Good points. I might just wait for the iPod before trying to build a video library for it. I still can't get DVD Decrypter and 3GP or PSP 9 to give me a 16:9 formatted file.

If anyone knows how, please let us know.

[nosaru]

psp video 9 will stretch widescreen video to 4:3 in 320x240
no anamorphic, aka. black band

[unknownsoldier]

I hate to post in case this has been said.. but 6 pages is a lot

This is the tutorial for mpeg, and there are plenty around on mac for h264, is there anyway to make h264 on windows from a divx file?

[B. W.]

Originally posted by unknownsoldier
I hate to post in case this has been said.. but 6 pages is a lot

This is the tutorial for mpeg, and there are plenty around on mac for h264, is there anyway to make h264 on windows from a divx file?
AVC is the same thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264) as H.264 compression.

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by Blankwire
AVC is the same thing[/URL] as H.264 compression.

Can the ipod also play just MPEG-4 and not AVC/H.264?

[cranium]

This is looking very frustrating for a lot of people.
Including myself. :mad:

I downloaded 3GP converter, tried converting my files to a 3GP & MPEG4. Neither would work in itunes, when I try to import the file nothing happens.. NOTE: these are standard avi's, quicktime movies etc... No wierd codecs.

I have also tried the same thing in PSP video 9. No luck.

Is there a plug-in / codec I need to install to get this to work. I cannot understand why I am having so many problems and so many people seem to be OK. I haven't even tried to import a DVD yet, all I want to do at the moment is convert my files so they will play on my ipod video when it arrives.

Please, i don't want to come across as dumb - I just can't get these applications to work.

[Jump_Blueberry]

Don't mean to be a spammer but please try "Nero Recode" ...
it's very simple to use and very fast (half the time of the video - other tools: 3 times the time of the video)
It creates a mp4-file with AAC - Audio with any output-resolution (you can also set 320x240)
I imported it into iTunes and there are no problems!

Here is the guide!
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/nerodigital.htm

Please install Daemon tools if you plan to import one of your DVDs from "big bad Fox" they have some very b*tchy copy-protection that made my computer crash down before I had Daemon-Tools installed!
(Copying DVDs for personal use and for you family is allowed in Germany)

[cranium]

can you use nero recode to recode your existing avi's or is it just for use with DVD??

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by blueman
Good points. I might just wait for the iPod before trying to build a video library for it. I still can't get DVD Decrypter and 3GP or PSP 9 to give me a 16:9 formatted file.

I generated a 16:9 file of my Sarah McLachlan concert DVD last night using one of the AVC/368x208 settings on PSPvideo to use as my test case.

Looks good on my computer, now the question is what will the iPod do with it :confused:

[lars666]

Sorry for being a bit slow - but could mabye somebody clearly answer me the following questions? You guys already talked about this above, but I'm not 100% sure if I understood it correctly ...

1. The difference between first creating an AVI from the VOB and then using 3G Converter or DIRECTLY converting the VOB in 3G Converter (and therefore save a lot of time) is that in the first case, the black 16:9-bars will remain and in the second case, the picture is stretched to full screen, right? If yes: Doesn't the streched picture look "wrong"? ("long heads effect" - sorry, I hope you know what I mean ...) Or do you prefer the stretched picture nevertheless because of the small iPod screen? (because it is so small that you shouldn't make it even smaller because of the black bars ...)

2. If I have fullscreen DVDs like TV shows, I can directly use the VOBs without creating an AVI first, because it won't make a difference, right? I guess shows like "The Simpsons", "Curb Your Enthusiasm" ...etc. are filmed and sold on DVD at fullscreen, aren't they?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my English! (not my native language and describing technical stuff like this makes me nuts ...)

[blueman]

lars--

i have the same questions you do. unfortunately, i have been unable to preserve the widescreen and the result is the "tall heads" effect in the iPod resolution.

there's got to be a way to do it, but i'm waiting for someone to tell me what to do since I can't get it to work myself...

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by blueman
there's got to be a way to do it, but i'm waiting for someone to tell me what to do since I can't get it to work myself...

*Either* someone needs to write us something that does the anamorphic conversion with the black bands

OR

You need to use a converter that lets you set a 16:9 resolution like the 368x208 movie I created above. It is widescreen and the resolution doesn't violate the limitations of the 5G iPods on a technical level but until I have my iPod to test it I don't know if it will work. It may not play at all or the iPod may just stretch it anyhow.

Getting a wide screen conversion is not hard at all to do if you use a converter other than the 3GP converter initially mentioned in this thread (I'm using PSPvideo 9).

BUT unless you are somehow generating an anamorphic 320x240 file, which we know will work, dont' waste much time on converting files since how the iPod handles them is currently an unknown.

[Jump_Blueberry]

Originally posted by cranium
can you use nero recode to recode your existing avi's or is it just for use with DVD??

it works with VOBs and with wmv as well.. so I guess it works with every kind of video!
Like no one in Europe I don't have an iPod Video to test it yet, but I think it should work on the iPod!

and in the menu Video you can set every output-size you like!

[SoySauce15]

JumpBlueberry your site for the tutorial doesn't work. I was wondering how do you change the format you want in nero recode thanks.

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by lars666
Sorry for being a bit slow - but could mabye somebody clearly answer me the following questions? You guys already talked about this above, but I'm not 100% sure if I understood it correctly ...

1. The difference between first creating an AVI from the VOB and then using 3G Converter or DIRECTLY converting the VOB in 3G Converter (and therefore save a lot of time) is that in the first case, the black 16:9-bars will remain and in the second case, the picture is stretched to full screen, right? If yes: Doesn't the streched picture look "wrong"? ("long heads effect" - sorry, I hope you know what I mean ...) Or do you prefer the stretched picture nevertheless because of the small iPod screen? (because it is so small that you shouldn't make it even smaller because of the black bars ...)

2. If I have fullscreen DVDs like TV shows, I can directly use the VOBs without creating an AVI first, because it won't make a difference, right? I guess shows like "The Simpsons", "Curb Your Enthusiasm" ...etc. are filmed and sold on DVD at fullscreen, aren't they?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my English! (not my native language and describing technical stuff like this makes me nuts ...)

1. Yup, using AutoGK will take away the black bars. Not using it will leave the black bars in a widescreen movie and saves you a bunch of time, at least a couple hours. Frankly, on my PSP, I watch everything in widescreen so their faces are wider. If you want subititles though you need to use AutoGK.

2. If you have a fullscreen movie just drop the VOB file directly into the converter.

I have a question too. Using AVC, does the Ipod only allow 320x240? If it's a different resolution will it not play at all or is that unknown as of now. Also, under the video section it says MPEG-4 files can be 480x480. Is it a max of 480x480 and will the Ipod adjust the video and zoom in if it's less?

[skateboarderx24]

auto gordon knot wont download it says im forbidden

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by skateboarderx24
auto gordon knot wont download it says im forbidden

Try downloading it from the link in engadget article:

free-codecs.com/download/AutoGK.htm

Geez, it's so annoying that only established members can post URLs.

[skateboarderx24]

ive got it downloaded now.. im 37% ripped in dvd decrypter.. im ripping donnie darko


so in dvd decrypter it just gets the raw data.. then its converted twice.. the final size will be how big usualy not in gigs will it.. and can i delete the stuff before the final product?

[ubarhax]

I wish I knew if PSP Video 9 worked on the iPods. AutoGK and 3GP take so long.

[Casey_the_geek]

Originally posted by skateboarderx24
ive got it downloaded now.. im 37% ripped in dvd decrypter.. im ripping donnie darko


so in dvd decrypter it just gets the raw data.. then its converted twice.. the final size will be how big usualy not in gigs will it.. and can i delete the stuff before the final product?

Yah i just ripped Donnie Darko. it's the only movie I have.

[ubarhax]

Wait, so what's the difference between 3GP and PSPvideo 9? They both convert to .MP4. Is there is no difference than why not use PSP Video? It's sooooo much faster.

[skateboarderx24]

i have auto gk now running.. how do you know its running and done....


boy am i glad i sprung for the 3 year warrenty with best buy on this laptop too anything happens they are replacing it.. with cash.. i wil fight to the death for the cash so i can go to the apple store slap some hard cash down and exchange for a powerbook...

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by ubarhax
Wait, so what's the difference between 3GP and PSPvideo 9? They both convert to .MP4. Is there is no difference than why not use PSP Video? It's sooooo much faster.

PSPvideo9 has more options. I just use 3GP because that's the first program that I used. Plus, PSPvideo9 isn't faster than 3GP. AutoGK doesn't need to be used with 3GP to allow it to work. It's just another side program that converts video to AVI.

[ubarhax]

So, that means AutoGK is just if you want to watch them on your PC?

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by ubarhax
So, that means AutoGK is just if you want to watch them on your PC?

No, AutoGK is used to turn the file into AVI, take away the black bars, add subtitles, or do whatever. It isn't a necessary step when converting a video to MP4.

[videora]

Hi Guys,
We suggest you use Videora iPod Converter over PSP Video 9, its tuned more specifically to the iPod.

Most PSP converters are tuned specifically to the PSP and its poor implementation of the MPEG-4 format. This means a lot of unecessary things are done to the file to make it play on the PSP. By avoiding these things you will save yourself a lot of hassle.

[topdog849]

quicke question, how many movies would you be able to put on a 30 gig video ipod?

[TheTelevision]

Originally posted by topdog849
quicke question, how many movies would you be able to put on a 30 gig video ipod?

More than you'll ever need.

That's not as quick a question as you would think. It all depends on the length of the movie, the quality that you want, if you use MP4 or AVC, and etc. If I were to guess I'd have to say more than twenty. I have a couple anime movies with decent encoding using MP4 at only 450MB. Just the right size to stick on a 512MB memory stick.

[Jump_Blueberry]

Originally posted by SoySauce15
JumpBlueberry your site for the tutorial doesn't work. I was wondering how do you change the format you want in nero recode thanks.

As for the link:
It works fine here (and at home)
You only have to wait a second or two to be redirected to the tutorial-site!

Actually Nero Recode is quite limited... you can only output a mp4-file with AAC-Audio
(which should play on the iPod though)
If you want to set another format go for alternatives but they take 5 times as long, but if it plays on the iPod why would you want another format!

[cranium]

OK. after loads of trouble trying to convert my Avi's I found that Videora iPod Converter did it first time.

Hope that works for some people, no idea why 3gp converter and psp video didn't work - they seem almost the same.

[Jump_Blueberry]

How long does converting with videora iPod Converter take?

[Bonk]

Will doing this change my DVDs in any way?

And what if the Ipod Video was designed so we can't put our own movies on it?

[cranium]

Originally posted by Jump_Blueberry
How long does converting with videora iPod Converter take?

It takes about 80 seconds per 60 seconds of video. I guess it depends on the speed of your PC.

[lars666]

Originally posted by videora
Hi Guys,
We suggest you use Videora iPod Converter over PSP Video 9, its tuned more specifically to the iPod.

Most PSP converters are tuned specifically to the PSP and its poor implementation of the MPEG-4 format. This means a lot of unecessary things are done to the file to make it play on the PSP. By avoiding these things you will save yourself a lot of hassle.

Hey videora,

just tried your program - unfortunately I still get a lot of errors. I typed the down in detail on your own forum. Would be nice if you could have a look at it. Thanks!

[SoySauce15]

Does anyone have a link to the videora ipod converter? Thanks.

[SoySauce15]

Jump_Blueberry why is the video, after being converted with Nero Recode, very blotchy and blurry when I play it on itunes? Am I doing something wrong? I just converted a .avi file to the the nero recode format. Could you help please. Thanks.

[BiReL41r]

I already had a video in avi. format on my computer so I just took it to 3GP and converted it to a .mp4 file but when I try and add it to my 'Videos' library it doesn't go.

There's a total of 4 files, 2 MP4. and 2 THM., only the 2nd .MP4 file is the right one, because that has the total length of it, the other only has the first 5secs. Please help.

[Bonk]

Originally posted by SoySauce15
Jump_Blueberry why is the video, after being converted with Nero Recode, very blotchy and blurry when I play it on itunes? Am I doing something wrong? I just converted a .avi file to the the nero recode format. Could you help please. Thanks.

I read an article and it is supposed to come out like that when you convert it.

[SoySauce15]

Originally posted by Bonk
I read an article and it is supposed to come out like that when you convert it.

But will the converted file work on the ipod? Thanks.

[Jump_Blueberry]

Originally posted by SoySauce15
Jump_Blueberry why is the video, after being converted with Nero Recode, very blotchy and blurry when I play it on itunes? Am I doing something wrong? I just converted a .avi file to the the nero recode format. Could you help please. Thanks.

I only tested it with Futurama and it looks quite good in my iTunes!
Did you reduce the size to 320x240?
Perhaps iTunes squeezes it!

My 1st Season-Box of The OC just arrived!
I'll try to convert an episode of this!

Mysteriously the amazon-parcel arrived at work though my home-adress was on the parcel ... spooky... oh reminds me I'll try some X-Files episodes as well... damn... do I have any series that don't run on Fox ;)
At least I have something to do at work now ;)
I'll give you an update soon!

My iPod is "shipped" but not really... it's still sitting in Shanghai probably!
Hope I can give you updates about how the files look on the iPod soon!

[Jump_Blueberry]

UPDATE:

I just tried to encode one episode of OC first with DVD Decryper and NeroRecode then with DVD Shrink and NeroRecode!

In both cases the video looked green when played in iTunes!

Maybe my Futurama-DVD only worked because it was that old (It's season 1)

I'll try it again at home and give you another update tomorrow (my DSL doesn't work at home)

[Jump_Blueberry]

Originally posted by Bonk
I read an article and it is supposed to come out like that when you convert it.

Which article said this?
I mean... it really looks awfull!

[BIG MARK]

Hey Jump,

I've been crusing this forum and see you been using Recode - I've been doing the same. I recoded The Girl Next Door into a 320x240 and looks great - with some catches:

1. If I open in itunes - 50% of the time perfect, 50% the time green or distorted.

2. Looks perfect, at encoded size in Neo Media Player or any media player 100% of the time

3. If playing in itnes an it looks good - if I try fast forwarding - it gets green or distroted.

4. No I have not tried on my "shipped" ipod.

Guess we have to see what happens. If it works - then Recode is hands down the program to use.

[lars666]

I dunno what my problem is: I tried PSP9, I tried iPod Converter, I tried 3GP Converter ... - and EVERY time the disappointing result is that video and audio are not synchronal at all. When I play the original VOB file, everything is OK. If anybody has a hint to help me, feel free to post it here. Thanks!

[bucash]

I have been using steps 1,2 then after the dvd has been coverted by AGK I use videora ipod converter with these settings SP/320x240/768kbps Stereo/128kbps to make it play on my ipod. I am doing season 4 of seinfeld and it works on my ipod. Sound looks a little off when I play in itunes though(words dont match up perfectly but very close)

[CoryChevalier]

Hey, I decrypt it (Jurassic Park) and get 5 VOB files and an IFO file...I try pspvideo 9 and it works great...but I get 5 different movie files...how do i make them one or am i doing it wrong? thanks

[weaselsheep]

I ripped SSaving Private Ryan and crated an AVi using AutoGK, and to my horror it doesn't have sound! what can i fiddle with to try to save this?

[bucash]

"I ripped SSaving Private Ryan and crated an AVi using AutoGK, and to my horror it doesn't have sound! what can i fiddle with to try to save this?"

Did you select an audio track? I have been doing it all day and its worked fine. Also even though the audio and video did not sync perfect in itunes, when i put them on my ipod and played then it syncs fine

[Jump_Blueberry]

It's getting very confusing in here... can I open a new topic for Nero Recode?

Can't do many tests at home as my laptop crashes down all the time when encoding videos (No matter with which program)

[asd821]

I downloaded Videora Ipod Converter and was wondering if there was a way to batch encode? I see the option Remove video from queue, but I don't see a way to btach encode.

[drmmrlikeskinny]

ok, so i downloaded Videora ipod Converter, and i can convert ok.

But heres the catch - When i play it in itunes, the vid and audio are out of sync. Can anyone help me? PLEASE! thanks.

[bucash]

Originally posted by drmmrlikeskinny
ok, so i downloaded Videora ipod Converter, and i can convert ok.

But heres the catch - When i play it in itunes, the vid and audio are out of sync. Can anyone help me? PLEASE! thanks.

mine is the same but when I put it onto my ipod it plays in sync

[matthewcinn]

Is the 8.1 release downloadable yet?

[Scarpad]

it's .081 and yes it is.

[survivorz21888]

So here's my problem. I used the tutorial provided and when I use Videora it won't ever finish. It gets to 100%, and it's been at 100% for about two hours now, and the fps and all of the other numbers just keep counting up, and my only option is to click Abort, which won't complete the process, I don't think. Solutions?

[Edmond Dantes]

So has anybody who has converted a video and/or dvd using PSP 9 tried it on a 5g iPod to see if it will work? I have been playing around with it and have it perfected, and it will play in iTunes and all, I was just curious if it will in fact work on an iPod...

I haven't tried videora ipod yet, i just found it on this forum tonight, but I suppose I will give it a try. I found PSP 9 on my own, but this is a great source for video ipod help....:D

oh, and survivorz, just let it keep going. i have had that happen to me on PSP 9 a couple of times, and just let it keep going and it will eventually finish. I think that sometimes the "time remaining" thing calculates the time that remains wrong....

[cheathamcc]

Survivorz-

This happened to me as well and Edmond is right, just let it run and it will eventually finish.

For me, I had one VOB file that had multiple chapters. I think Videora calculated the time to finish just based on the first chapter. But, again, letting it run until it stopped transcoding resulted in a successful conversion and a single file that had all the chapters.

[jmstacey]

Videora has a bug with VOB files and estimated completion/remaining time. It will finish eventually.
I works just fine as long as you don't use the H264 encoding.

Now, for those of us who have gotten it to work without any problems, share your favorite encoding settings (video/audiot bitrate, etc).

[twentythree]

ok here are my favorite profiles for videora right now (until somebody finds a fix for a h.264 conversion which should be even better in image quality):

for 1,85:1 movies/tv show: MPEG-4/320x176/384kbps Stereo/96kbps
(you could use a higher bitrate for video but I think it's looking pretty good with 384kbps and size does matter on my ipod - for a 20 minutes show the size is 70mb)

for 2,35:1 movies: MPEG-4/320x136/384kbps Stereo/96kbps
(you can find a pic of a 2,35:1 movie playing on the ipod at the following thread: forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124109&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
with this setting a 1:43 hour movie (in 2,35:1) has a size of 366mb

[emmcubed]

I have searched and searched, so please forgive me if I am stupid and happened to miss the answer to this question if it's already been posted:

I tried Videora for the first time and got my file to work properly, albeit the ratio was incorrect. I tried customizing the profile for encoding only to have Videora reset the profile to 320x240 when I started the encode. I have tried everything and guess I am missing something when it comes to making the program encode the video in the proper ratio, but it seems to want to do its own thing every time I click 'Start'.

Thank you in advance. Any help will be appreciated.

[twentythree]

yeah, that's a bit irritating but just ignore it. as long as you've set your selected the file to convert and then select the profile you want and click apply everythings fine. it just jumps to the default profile after you click apply...

[emmcubed]

Thanks a bunch twentythree. I felt pretty stupid, considering I've been converting video for quite some time now and couldn't solve this problem. Glad to know I can safely blame it on software and not human error (which is more often the case with me).

[Edmond Dantes]

make sure that you change the video settings on the quality profile in the convert section too. i think if you just change it in the profiles but not the convert section it might not use the one you want...

[ajservo1]

I'm not understanding this...

Why is everyone encoding at such low bitrates for MPEG-4?

H.264, I understand why it's lower, but MPEG-4? There's room for more you know...

I've been doing encoding at 2Mbps for all my encodes and they look gorgeous. It's similar to VCD quality, so I guess I'm not getting why isn't everyone at least encoding this rate? Data is about 10MB a minute. It's pretty low.

320X240 at 384kbps is around 1/10 the quality I'm encoding at. What on earth does that look like by comparison?

[twentythree]

i'm using 384 because there is NOT room for more. at least on my ipod its 54gb music and the rest is used for some videos and photos. on the ipods small screen you can't really see huge differences between 384 and say 512 or even higher. when you want to watch it on a tv it's a different story. 2mbps is a bit overkill imho. how long can you watch on one fully charged battery with this bitrate?

[ajservo1]

I'm seeing enormous differences. I spent a great deal of time encoding and reencoding at different bitrates and I can't imagine using less than maybe 2 Mbps.

I took a whole bunch of PSP videos I had done back in May for a client of mine and loaded them unchanged onto the ipod. These were done at 384 and there's a ton of digitization on my black levels. What defined images there are, are VERY blocky.

I only did the PSP vides this way originally due to clients space restrictions.

[Edmond Dantes]

i have been encoding at 768 kbs and its looking pretty good...

[brownstonemr]

With Nero Recode i am encoding most videos at:

320x240 2.40mbps 160kbps 44khz

[ipaqman]

hey all,

is 128kbps for audio good enough. will i notice a difference when i use videra ipod converter and use a higher kbps?

thanks,
ipaqman

[thrlride]

I was able to get the animated movie Robots on my ipod and it works great. The movie is 5 files in total. Is there a way to make all 5 into one file so it just plays the entire thing? What about renaming the file so I know its Robots instead of VTS? I did rename them but it still loaded them as VTS...

[vrity]

I'm having problems. I convert the IFO file DVD Decrypter made to an MPEG4 file but I can't drag it to iTunes. Is there another way to put you DVDs onto an iPod? By the way, I used Videora for the conversion. This sucks because I haven't been successful with any video for my iPod. SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE!!! :(

[thrlride]

I don't know what to tell you. I used the dvd decrypter and then used the videora on those files. Then I was able to put them in itunes and on the ipod.

[vrity]

I also noticed that Videora transcoded the IFO file in literally 1 second. Is that normal?

[thrlride]

Not at all, mine is taking hours to code it.

[vrity]

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, thrlride. Can you post everything you do and what programs you use to do this? Gosh, this is frustrating. Nothing works for me. :(

[thrlride]

First I run DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0. I don't do anything special with that other than click the disc to drive icon on the bottom which starts the process.

When that is done then I open videor ipod, find all the files in the directory we saved the movies from the previous step, shift click all of them (or just the main movie instead of special features and movie) and then click one button convert or whatever it is called.

Then when that is done I go to itunes, click on video. Then click on file > add folder to library and select whatever folder you put the movie files from videora ipod.

Then connect your ipod to your computer and it should load.

At least that's how I do mine.

[mr wylde]

Hi all im a new owner to the ipod video.. pretty awesome bit of kit so far.

However just tried the dvd decrypter and then videora software and yes ive got the video i wanted on my ipod but i have no sound????


Any ideas why this is guys..Hope you can help:)

[tru5t]

c'monn....we're covering the same basic thing over and over again....
please READ the tutorial...word for word!
take your time.

if you follow it WORD FOR WORD...it should work just fine.

[sardaukar22]

i just used videora, and transfered lord of the rings to my ipod everything worked fine other than it took several hours for videora to process the file. The problem is that the movie gets stuck about a minute into it? could it possible be because the file is so large? lord of the rings is over 3 hours and this is a big file; well over 1gb. anyone else have this happen? i'm going to do another movie; hopefully its just a fluke.

[Scarpad]

If you have the Special Editions try them they break it up to 2 disks, or lower the bitrate

[Jrid32]

Where can I download the DVD decrypter? The link is dead. Any ideas where I can get it for free.

THanks,

JR

[Genesis_iPod]

I was able to rip and convert my movie off of a dvd by using "DVD decyrpter" and "Videora". It works as expected, the only problem I have is that the sound is way out of sync with what's showing on the screen. I'll have mouths moving, but nothing coming out of them, and later have scene with no one in it, but someones talking. Although it makes for a good laugh, it would be nice to actually have the sound in sync with the movie. Can any one help me?

[sayhello]

OK, I'm sorry to sound stupid, but I'm trying to use Videora to convert some .mov files I already have on my PC to .mp4. I select the movie, but it seems no matter which profile I choose (including MPEG4/Downloaded movie) it says "Transcode Complete", with no errors I can see, but the resulting .mp4 is 0 kb, and can't be read or played. What am I doing wrong??? I read the turtorial, and I can't find anything to cover this.

Thanks.
sayhello

[Razorwing]

got a question.. ok I encoded Star Wars EPIII (Widescreen) but when I play it on my video ipod it appears to be fullscreen... hmm anyone ??

[Genesis_iPod]

Jrid32, you can get the DVD decryptor right here:

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/leech.htm

after going here, scroll down to the "Descrambling / Ripping tools" section. Under it you should find the DVD Decryptor link.

[toliman]

the issue you have is one of two that videora ipod conv. doesn't cover (though it should, and it still could).

problem 1: sync in videora produced files, 1-6-second gap between audio/video

one problem is that videora is a frontend for ffmpeg, which preloads some of the video and audio, encodes the separate streams and then interleaves the files in a new container. sometimes, ffmpeg screws up the preloading, since container formats (avi/wmv/mkv/mov/mp4, etc) are made to do different things, with different preloading/caching formats. ffmpeg should respect this, but... its not perfect.

upgrading ffmpeg, or removing the video and audio into separate files would fix this, but there's a better way for windows users than encoding to a third format for conversion.

the new version of videora ipod conv. (0.91) uses avisynth to help speed, quality and sync issues by loading the original file in a wrapper (.avs), so that the video and audio match, and can be processed as an integrated stream, keeping the original sync and reducing the processing overhead of re-encoding to suit the encoder. this way, the original file format doesn't matter, and the encoder doesnt have to decide how to decode a file properly.


problem 2, ratio/widescreen files

if the original content is in widescreen, and the ripped files are in widescreen, the converter should produce either a widescreen file, or a full-screen file depending on the encoder settings.

preferably, the encoder should recognise that the destination size/format has a different ratio, and thus requires the option of
i) expanding/zooming to fullscreen,
ii) adding borders on the sides required to make it fullscreen,
iii) a hybrid of both, as in the pan & scan you find on tv movies, with 5-10% of the sides cut off, and borders added to the top & bottom.

more advanced apps can auto-resize the destination file to suit, but it comes down to a personal preference. videora doesn't auto-resize yet, but give it time and it might...

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does i would really like to know because i have been trying to find a program that can pan and scan my widescreen movies to full screen....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[Edmond Dantes]

to my knowledge i dont believe videora offers pan and scan encoding. if it does, i would really like to know where that option is, because i have been trying to find a program that will pan and scan my widescreen to full screen movies without distorting the image....

[elistoughton]

should this be taking 5 hours. . or is there something that I'm doing that is wrong.
Also, i tried to select h264 16:9 on the top, but it automatically went to mpeg4. anybody know why?

And how does videora hold up against using nero, it time and ease-of-use.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

[iFerdie]

Originally posted by toliman
problem 1: sync in videora produced files, 1-6-second gap between audio/video
...
the new version of videora ipod conv. (0.91) uses avisynth to help speed, quality and sync issues by loading the original file in a wrapper (.avs), so that the video and audio match, and can be processed as an integrated stream, keeping the original sync and reducing the processing overhead of re-encoding to suit the encoder. this way, the original file format doesn't matter, and the encoder doesnt have to decide how to decode a file properly.
I'm using the latest version of Videora with avisynth, but I'm still getting audio out of sync from video. Is there another problem causing this?

[volumecontrol]

I don't know if this question has been asked before, so if it has, just point me towards the correct post.

What program should I use to convert my videos to a higher resolution than 320X240? I've ripped some of my DVDs, and I have the raw *.VOB files. Now I want to take them on the go. It would be nice to also watch them on a TV. Which resolution was this that had the highest detail and also worked on an iPod 720 something? Videora won't let me convert to anything higher than 320X240 (or else I'm missing something).

EDIT: I forgot to say I have windows, not mac.

[iamsquid]

It's easy to transfer avi files to the ipod, just need to use PSP vid 9 - works a dream, you can always mail me at silvermangrant@hotmail.com for more info - hope this helps - was over the moon when I found it!

[breakerz]

I've converted my wmv file using videora ipod converter following the exact steps and imported it on itunes and it plays fine. However it won't play on my 30g ipod video, anybody know what the problem could be?

[hatakah]

I'm not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but...

Not a big fan of iTunes...refuse to insall it due to ethical considerations. Is there no other way to upload video onto my iPod? Anapod makes no mention of video anywhere in their documentation...

[hatakah]

I'm not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but...

Not a big fan of iTunes... Is there no other way to upload video onto my iPod? Anapod makes no mention of video anywhere in their documentation...

[icruise]

Originally posted by hatakah
I'm not sure if this has been covered elsewhere, but...

Not a big fan of iTunes...refuse to insall it due to ethical considerations. Is there no other way to upload video onto my iPod? Anapod makes no mention of video anywhere in their documentation...
Oh come on. Ethical considerations? :rolleyes:

[jasalo]

I've got a program 2 export videos to iPod (including DVDs, avi, mpg, etc...) it's called "PQ DVD to iPod"
go search it >> google.com ^^ :p :) :D

[JimSpalding]

OK, I'm a frustrated n00b trying to load a DVD onto a video ipod. As near as I can tell, Videora is the only free program, but its link to a DVD decoder on doom9 doesn't work as of now.

I downloaded the trial of PQ DVD to ipod, and while it appeared to work ok, the trial version times out very quickly so it isn't really usable, and I didn't seem to have sound on the downloaded video.

So it looks like I really have to buy Quicktime or PQ thing for $30!?! I think I'll stick to audio and wait for a little.

[hello hips]

i got the video onto the ipod....but it doesnt quite match up with the sound? how can i fix this?

[rockin78]

HEY I followed all the steps with the decrypter and videora....WHen i trie to put it itunes it says cannot be imported cuz its not a valid exported file? WHAT DID I DO?

[Macdaddy4738]

got it to work...

however i cant figure out how to keep my chapters secret.

I put Aqua Teen Hunger Force on it, and gotta fast forward to get to more episodes rather then fast forwarding...

any ideas?

[nicky0915]

you have to rip the dvd by chapters lower right hand corner

[dpid]

Originally posted by breakerz
I've converted my wmv file using videora ipod converter following the exact steps and imported it on itunes and it plays fine. However it won't play on my 30g ipod video, anybody know what the problem could be?

i'm getting the same problems, i tried different settings but no avail...

[Lanalor]

I am experiencing the same problems. My 60GB iPod Video Plays all videos bought from the iTMS however refuses to play the majority of videos that have been converted using Videora. Any suggestions?

[u2kevinu2]

I am using PQ, but my music vidoes conrtain static. Any suggestions?

[ipod_sock]

Guys, guys, guys... first time poster here so 'hi' to one and all, anyway, just wanted to say I've used em' all and by FAR the best is PQ DVD to iPod, just use AnyDVD or other DeCSS program and the results are amazing, even on a 28" widescreen tv! :D

Hope this helps... this program REALLY is amazing and oh - so - simple!!!

-The sock

[OSUdent]

Ipod Newbie here and would like to load it with Vids. I do not know how to use Videora to achieve that. I have some video that works with RealNetwork but could not play them on my Ipod. If someone can point me to tutorial link it would be greatly appreciated.

[kornchild2002]

OSUdent, look on the very first page of this long thread for a tutorial on converting other video formats to a iPod ready format with Videora. Just keep in mind that you must be able to download the video off the internet. Any videos that are streamed WILL NOT work because you cannot save them. You might have to find a video converter to go from the Real format to a uncompressed AVI format, then use Videora to convert that AVI to a iPod ready format. Use Google to find a Real to AVI converter.

As for the posts about the videos not working. I too had the problem in that ALL Videora created videos didn't work. You need to rename the video files from .mp4 to .m4v iTunes uses four extensions for their mpeg-4 AAC audio and mpeg-4 AVC video: .m4a, .m4b, .m4p, and .m4v. The rest of the world is content with using just one extension: .mp4. iTunes uses those extensions so that a user can tell the difference from a song file, audio book, purchased music, or video file by just looking at the file names. Change the file names of the videos from *.mp4 to *.m4v and they will work just fine.

Keep in mind that the iPod can support mpeg-4 AVC and regular mpeg-4 video in the .m4v, .mp4, and .mov formats. For some reason, I too cannot get the .mp4 videos to work on my iPod unless I rename them to .m4v.

Edit: Never mind, it all works fine now. I uninstalled and reinstalled iTunes+QuickTime and I can now sync mpeg-4, mpeg-4 AVC, and mpeg-4 mov files without problems.

[OSUdent]

Looking at purchasing this vid converter. I guess, I would rather pay and have it work than not...I will try Videora before I buy...

[vtdbte]

once you import movie into itunes thats it right?

[svictor39]

the videora work for me, i tried using the itune converter but each time i use it i lost the sound. but videora solve the probs.
thanks

[arlen23]

i dont understand the last step, i coverted it but cant find it

[svictor39]

Originally posted by arlen23
i dont understand the last step, i coverted it but cant find it

when you open the videora, click on setup, settting, and you'll see where it say "output videos to:" that where the converted file are store. so you can either browse it from there or copy the whole link and browse it with "run" on your start menu if you are using "windows". and you can also change the output lacation to more easier folder where you can easily locate it.
let me know if this help.
NB: I had that problem too at first before i figured it out that, I wasn't putting the converted one on my ipod.

[SNLStarz92]

i cant open da videora. an application error shows up and it says "The application failed to intialize properly. Click on OK to terminate the application." after i click ok, nothing happens. wat do i do?

[svictor39]

Originally posted by SNLStarz92
i cant open da videora. an application error shows up and it says "The application failed to intialize properly. Click on OK to terminate the application." after i click ok, nothing happens. wat do i do?

uninstall it and reinstall it again.

[SNLStarz92]

Originally posted by svictor39
uninstall it and reinstall it again.
i did but after i install it again, and then i try 2 open it, its stilll the same as b4

[Cobra302]

i have a question that i havent seen on here yet. I'm using dvd decrypter to change dvd to vob file. i'm making one big 3 gig file or so. but when i play the vob file, there is no sound. even if i try and convert using videora, there is no sound on the video, no even delayed. if i use dvd fab express, then merge the vob files with vob merge if the file is bigger than like 3 gigs videora starts to convert but converts nothing? make sense? if takes like 2 seconds, makes a file, but it shows 0kb on the file. if i break the files down to around 2 gigs a piece, it'll work fine. anyone know if videora can only convert files so big? or have i somehow done something wrong? thanks in advance for all the help.

[notredewey]

Originally posted by svictor39
when you open the videora, click on setup, settting, and you'll see where it say "output videos to:" that where the converted file are store. so you can either browse it from there or copy the whole link and browse it with "run" on your start menu if you are using "windows". and you can also change the output lacation to more easier folder where you can easily locate it.
let me know if this help.
NB: I had that problem too at first before i figured it out that, I wasn't putting the converted one on my ipod.

I'm having the same problem. I've followed all the steps and even changed the output folder to find it easier. While the file is being converted It is in the folder, but when completed it is no where to be found. I've tried it twice now, same outcome. Any suggestions?

[Mr_Crowley]

I have the same exact problem. I am trying to convert Fellowship of the Ring DVD to MP4 and load it to my iPod, unfortunately I've been unsuccessfull. This is my first time doing this.

I followed the article on this site, Video-to-iPod Conversion for Windows PCs Part 1-3, using DVD Decrypter and Videora iPod Converter as suggested. I was able to create the VOB file but when I try to convert it, Videora says I completed successfully but there's no MP4 file in the output folder. I ran it twice already with no luck. The strange thing is while it's converting I do see a file but once the conversion is done the file disappears. I also don't get any error messages from Videora just a successfull message.

Here the options I am using in Videora:

320x180 (iPod size)
MPEG-4 > A-VBR
Two Pass
Bitrate=900kbps
Min=128
Max=2500
Framerate=29.97
Audio bitrate=160kbps
Stereo
Sample rate=input

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[Cobra302]

;) i finally broke down and got pq dvd to ipod converter, WOW!!!!!! its soo much easier. if you can afford the 35 bucks, i would def go with it and save yourself the headaches! lol

[ipod_sock]

;) i finally broke down and got pq dvd to ipod converter, WOW!!!!!! its soo much easier. if you can afford the 35 bucks, i would def go with it and save yourself the headaches! lol

See? now if only people had listened the first time round... :eek: :mad: :rolleyes:

latest 1.5 (build 01) even has a 480 x 368 'tv' option, as well as the norm 320 x 240 :D

More? -> http://www.pqdvd.com/dvd-to-ipod-video-converter.html

[yedog]

i have a 30gb video ipod and i succeeded to convert small avi file to mp4 using the videora and then transfer it to my ipod using the itunes. after i convert large avi file to mp4 it won't let me drag the converted mp4 into itunes, i mean that after i drag the file i don't see it in the itunes library.

what should i do?

[ipod_sock]

Use PQDVD to iPod?!?! :rolleyes:

[greenbean]

I got an ipod video (60gb) a couple of weeks ago and im trying to put music videos inside. I tried converting my videos using videora but the end result is always screwed :( The audio would be faster than the video, so you can see the singer's mouth opening and no words come out. The sound is much much later.

My sister said it was something to do with the processing but i already set it from normal to high :/ Any ideas what my settings should be?

This is where there's a tutorial and i followed the settings: http://50lbslater.com/blog/?p=48#comments (there's a video too)

:o

[3 and counting]

my friend is trying to figure out how to put movies on her ipod for camp for windows. I have a mac so ya. I see that dvd decryptor is no lonoger available, what program do you use to rip from the dvd before videora?!!!

[hellhole]

i am also need to this ipod video converting... however, i notice that when u try to convert some funny charaters using Videora iPod Converter, it will not take and then remove the file away..much like that you guys/gals descript. I know that as I did some chinese movie with them title in chinese and it does what is mention. as soon as i change the name of the video i converting to come english equaviliant. everything works fine. Then i change back to the chinese language and load it into the ipod.

hope this helps with the mistery... check out some of the charaters that is used....

[cp3]

I have a 16:9 movie file that i want to watch it into my ipod, but if i do that then the video will be strechted out. so is there a way to crop out the side of the movie file to make it into a 4:3 format?

[NatsuMatto]

I have a 16:9 movie file that i want to watch it into my ipod, but if i do that then the video will be strechted out. so is there a way to crop out the side of the movie file to make it into a 4:3 format?

Why will the video stretch out? If you read the videora bitrate combination suggestions thread (it's another sticky in this forum), all you need to do is set the program to a resolution of 320x180 instead of the default 320x240. I converted the 16:9 first season of "The Office" using DVDDecryptor and Videora and have pefect results.

[SPeeDy_Freak]

What video formats can be converted?

I have wmv, mpeg, rm file formats. Will this convert them for me?

[joako12]

videora really works thanks

[mo_man91]

i tried videora
but the video and audio is out of sync
and it only converted like 11 minutes of the video.

[luke28072]

I like to use DVD Shrink v.3.2, not dvd decrypte. DVD Shrink makes the file smaller, resulting in less time in videora. Just make sure you dont split the outpu into 1 GB chunks

[smokefly]

I downloaded an MTV MP4 file, which is playable in iTunes but not transferable to iPod. I used Videora to convert the original MP4 file to a new MP4 file. The new file was transfered to iPod and everything seems perfect. However I noticed that the size of the orignal file is about 8MB, but the new one is 22MB. Why does the size increase so much?

[ardavare]

So it seems the problem is that 3GP_Converter doesn't go any higher than 384 kbps, even though the ipod can handle up to 2.5 mbps. Does someone know of another program that can convert to a higher rate?

Try using Image convertor by Sony which has capability up to 768kpbs

[xowner]

i converted two videos useing videora and now it wont work? i convert it then it saves to a folder then i import it but now its not importing ??? anyone got any ideas?

[honeybee1236]

Check the title & make sure it is less than 32 characters if you mean it won't go into iTunes. If the title is to long then it won't be added to the iTunes library. Other than that you will have to convert it again and change your settings.

[garfield.zs]

Hi all,

I just got a brand neww 5G enhanced 30GB Ipod andI just do not seem to be able to upload any video on it.

I am using Xilisoft video converter to turn my AVI / DIVX movies to MPeg4. Nometter what and how i try when i try to upload with iTunes 7 I get the message that this format is not supported by my iPod.

Now, I have read hundreds of advices on dozens of forums, still without any success.

The last video's paramters that I cannot upload are the following:
H.264, 176x144 (I tried this after it did not work with larger ones) Bit rate 200 (max 1500), Frame rate 29 / Mpeg4AAC, bitrate 64, sample rate 48000, 2 channels

Does anyone have any ideas as to why I cannot upload this file to my Ipod? I mean according to all artivcles i have read this should work.

Ipod is almost blank (2 Gb out of 30), file name is shorter than 32 char., filesize smaller than 4 Gb.

Why on earth will this not work???

I'd appreciate some help , I'm getting really frustrated here... :confused: :shake:

[garfield.zs]

Ayone? please... :)

[justsomedude]

^^Download MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en), set View to HTML and open your video file. If you post the text it displays here, I may be able to tell you why it doesn't synch.

You could also do the same thing with your source file.

:)

You can leave out the title of your video(s)...

[garfield.zs]

Here's the stuff:

AVI:
Format : AVI Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave Format/Family : RIFF File size : 699 MiB PlayTime : 42mn 21s Bit rate : 2301 Kbps Writing application : Nandub v1.0rc2 Writing library : Nandub build 1853/release Video #0 Codec : XviD Codec/Family : MPEG-4 Codec/Info : XviD project Codec settings/Packe : No Codec settings/BVOP : Yes Codec settings/QPel : No Codec settings/GMC : 0 Codec settings/Matri : Default PlayTime : 42mn 21s Bit rate : 1904 Kbps Width : 960 pixels Height : 528 pixels Aspect ratio : 16/9 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 8 bits Chroma : 4:2:0 Interlacement : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.157 Writing library : XviD0043 Audio #0 Codec : AC3 PlayTime : 42mn 21s Bit rate : 384 Kbps Bit rate mode : CBR Channel(s) : 5 channels Sampling rate : 48 KHz ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R

[garfield.zs]

and the one that's supposed to work on Ipod:

MPEG-4 Format/Info : ISO 14496-1 Base Media Format/Family : MPEG-4 File size : 134 KiB StreamSize : 134 KiB

What's funny is that with mediainfo I sem to see less detail than with Xilisoft. (I included all info I got from Xilisoft in my first post)


Many thanks in advance to all.

[justsomedude]

and the one that's supposed to work on Ipod:

MPEG-4 Format/Info : ISO 14496-1 Base Media Format/Family : MPEG-4 File size : 134 KiB StreamSize : 134 KiB

What's funny is that with mediainfo I sem to see less detail than with Xilisoft. (I included all info I got from Xilisoft in my first post)


Many thanks in advance to all.


Is this really all the info you see when you open your converted file with MediaInfo? That's very strange, it should display the same amount of info as it has done with your avi file (with different specs of course).

Check Debug --> Advanced Mode and Debug --> Details - 10 and open your file again. Also, try to switch between different View modes and see if you you can get it to show you more specs.

Could you answer the following questions (all of them, please):

Does the converted file play with Quicktime?

If so, does it play fine or do you recognize stuttering?

If not, does Quicktime display an error message?

Can you add the file the file to your iTunes library?

Can you play the file with another player? Which one?

Did you change the frame rate on purpose or did Xilisoft change it automatically?


Sorry for all the hassle, but I can't help you without more information. Alternatively, you could try a converter like Super (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html) and see if it works.

:)

[garfield.zs]

Is this really all the info you see when you open your converted file with MediaInfo? That's very strange, it should display the same amount of info as it has done with your avi file (with different specs of course).

Check Debug --> Advanced Mode and Debug --> Details - 10 and open your file again. Also, try to switch between different View modes and see if you you can get it to show you more specs.

Could you answer the following questions (all of them, please):

Does the converted file play with Quicktime?

If so, does it play fine or do you recognize stuttering?

If not, does Quicktime display an error message?

Can you add the file the file to your iTunes library?

Can you play the file with another player? Which one?

Did you change the frame rate on purpose or did Xilisoft change it automatically?


Sorry for all the hassle, but I can't help you without more information. Alternatively, you could try a converter like Super (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html) and see if it works.

:)

Never mind the hassle! I'm trying to get it work and you're helping me, so no hassle. :)

Regarding your questions:

Does the converted file play with Quicktime? - yes
If so, does it play fine or do you recognize stuttering? - plays fine

If not, does Quicktime display an error message? - nope

Can you add the file the file to your iTunes library? - yes

Can you play the file with another player? Which one? - all players that I have and can play mp4 play them without any trouble.
Did you change the frame rate on purpose or did Xilisoft change it automatically?

at first I left it as it was. since it did not work I gradually reduced it, what you could see there was the last try.


+ I forgot to mention that my Ipod's firmware is all up to date - did not (yet) try to mess with repartitioning it, or changing anything else.

I will send the html files in PM ( so that I do not spam the forum itself).

[justsomedude]

^^Okay, thank you for the detailed reply. Unfortunately, I looked through the specs you sent for 15 minutes, unable to find something. Everything looks as it should, except for:

file name is shorter than 32 char

Hmm, I counted 41 characters. Could you just rename your file to "test.mp4" and see if it works?


If it doesn't, you could try to mux your video with yamb (http://yamb.unite-video.com/download.html), maybe it helps.

Maybe I'll edit this post tomorrow with some more ideas. :)

[garfield.zs]

Changed the name of the AVi before converting it to mp4. After conversion still does not recognized by iPod. it still tells me that it is of a format that cannot be played by this device...

I started thinking that the problem could be with the iPod, although firmware is all up to date, it is not damaged and has not been tampered with neither by me nor by anyone else.

This is driving me nuts...

[garfield.zs]

Huh...

I downloadad Yamb too (I lost count how manieth softrware this is that I have downloaded in order to be able to handle my Ipod).

Good news: I managed to mux an mp4 that I could transfer to the Ipod. However: the image was garbled and there was no sound.

tried playing the same file in quicktime: played fiine (well, almost fine) but no sound there either.

Tried with and without .srt. Same result.

At least it seems I have found something: seems like Xilisoft just won't do the job it supposed to... Neither does Super... Yamb is halfway there. and I am fed up...

Thx for all your help, though! (thumbs up)

Will mocker about for some time andif I find out anything will keep you guys posted.

[justsomedude]

Your source file is an avi containing AC3 audio. It is possible the converters you tried don't like this combination. You could do another test:

Use Yamb to extract the video stream of your encoded file to a new mp4 file and see if it plays properly on the iPod. If so, you could encode the audio stream separately and then mux audio and video together.


If not, I can give you a description how to encode your video so it'll work for sure (well, let's say 99.99%). However, this will be a rather complicated (and in no way foolproof) procedure, so it's up to you if you want to try.

:)

[mosquito_NL]

GREAT!!!!!!!! i have been looking for a good conversion tool for ages!

[garfield.zs]

Your source file is an avi containing AC3 audio. It is possible the converters you tried don't like this combination. You could do another test:

Use Yamb to extract the video stream of your encoded file to a new mp4 file and see if it plays properly on the iPod. If so, you could encode the audio stream separately and then mux audio and video together.


If not, I can give you a description how to encode your video so it'll work for sure (well, let's say 99.99%). However, this will be a rather complicated (and in no way foolproof) procedure, so it's up to you if you want to try.

:)
Inbetween I had a successful conversion attempt with Videora. I could finally watch my first movie on the iPod! Yesss!

Could have been beacuse of the AC3? Hmm... interesting.

Although it works now, I would still be interested in your other solution too, just for the sake of it - that is if your're not bored already helping me out.. :)

Regs.

[justsomedude]

Glad you finally found something that works for you. :)

I would have used a way more complicated procedure, so please forgive me for not typing a 2000+ word description of what I would have done.

[garfield.zs]

Many thanks again for all the time you took! :)

[MandM]

so i converted the video using
videora iPod converter, but theres no sound? help, im a noob!!

[manders4001]

For some reason the DVD Decrypter isn't recognizing my DVD. :(
Help? The support forum linked in the program appears to be down.

[7twilliams7]

I've been collecting music vids so I got Cucusoft's programs for conversion. I've had no problems, it seems to work very well. Done .mpg's and .avi's with it though it is capable of more.

Had a time figuring out how to get the converted vids into a proper ipod folder, then figured out that when I imported the converted vids, iTunes automatically put them into the "movie" folder - even though the unconverted ones still resided in the "music" folder.

After finding the "video" tab in the Info window (in iTunes: right-click on your video file, select 'get info', choose 'video' tab, change from 'movie' to 'music video') things began to fall in to place. I've now got them all (54 so far) in my "Music Videos" playlist.

One minor problem I'm having though is this: How do I get my vids to play consecutively and shuffled as I can with the regular audio tracks? The only thing I can think of is to designate them in their Info screen as "part of a compilation", though I haven't tried this yet.

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

[B. W.]

yo dis be outdated
Agreed! Let it drop! :shake:

[kerobi11]

if for example, i borrowed a dvd from a local dvd rental shop, would they ever know that i decrypted their dvd for personal entertainment?

[Seismo]

if for example, i borrowed a dvd from a local dvd rental shop, would they ever know that i decrypted their dvd for personal entertainment?
No.

(The forum software says my answer is too short so I have to lengthen my message. Consider it done).