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Old 03-17-2012, 09:32 AM
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I see these arguments that Apple wouldn't do anything cheap, but isn't that exactly what they did with the Apple TV?

Forget about the controller for a moment (this would just be necessary to run Apps if you didn't own an iDevice). Today, with an update to ios for Apple TV and the Remote app, you could be controlling apps running directly on the ATV using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod. This has been done already with the previous ATV via jailbreaking.

The demand for such a device is there. The hardware is there. It's only a matter of time before Apple takes this on. I assure you, Apple will find a way to make money on it.
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Old 03-17-2012, 10:32 AM
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Not really. They took out support for analog audio and video along with having built-in storage turning the Apple TV into a streaming device (which is primarily what people were using their expensive previous gen Apple TVs for anyway). They also added HDMI and now have 1080p support and streaming from an iPad 2/iPad 3, computer, or iTunes Store. Apple was able to decrease the cost by taking those older aspects out along with focusing on ARM architecture (which is a move everyone seems to be doing and shying away from Intel, even Google TV is making the switch to ARM over Intel).

In order to add more app support, Apple would have to increase the amount of storage on an Apple TV. There is already 8GB for buffer space but that would have to increase to at least 16GB for app storage but they would likely offer different capacities (just like with the old Apple TV). iCloud isn't up to the point yet where you can access apps live without any delay. Now, if Apple could figure that out, the Apple TV's capacity wouldn't need to be upgraded.

Additionally, the Remote app for the Apple TV is just a simple remote. I don't really see how that means a market is there for a more complex setup but whatever. Essentially more complex apps are supposed to be consumed on the iPad or iPhone and the Apple TV can act as a larger display (essentially wireless HDMI out). There are some games that link the Apple TV and an iDevice so that the Apple TV supplements the iDevice by offering a different view. Those games represent an extremely small niche. That was a big feature when the iPad 2 came out but it has kind of fizzled so I really don't think the market for that is as large as you are implying. Even Roku isn't having that much luck and their devices come with Angry Birds and offer a few other choices.

My point is that these small set top boxes are great for media consumption but still can't compete with even an iPod touch when it comes to gaming mainly because most games are developed around a more complex controller input or for touch input and that is best experienced when you can actually see what you are touching. Games that take advantage of the Apple TV and use it to augment what's happening are few and far between while having little success.



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Old 06-03-2013, 06:30 AM
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hello,

Review is good about Apple TV but not much interested because all the features include in smart phone.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:42 AM
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Can't an iPhone or iPod Touch or iPad be used as a touch screen remote for the newer AppleTV? I know the 1st gen version supported the app.
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